285: TechTime Radio: This Week, TikTok’s Algorithm Reset, Waymo’s Scrape, a Stalled D.C. Robo‑minibus, New Security Risks, and a Hands‑on Look at the Ziea‑One Gadget from Gwen Way, Plus Even More, with Whiskey‑Fueled Insights | Air Date: 2/10 - 2/16/26

Episode 285: Join us this week on TechTime Radio with Nathan Mumm: The Show That Makes You Go "HMMM." Welcome to our show as we guide you through all things tech with a lil' whiskey on the side.

This week on TechTime Radio, we cut through a week where algorithms, automation, and accountability all collided. We opened with TikTok’s regulatory shakeup, where EU pressure and U.S. oversight triggered an algorithm reset that left creators scrambling. The conversation centered on what responsible design looks like when addictive features meet real duty of care, especially for younger users.

We shifted to the automotive world this week, from Waymo scraping parked cars to a D.C. robo‑minibus that froze in the middle of the lane after a minor crash. The show explained how fragile edge cases and confusing human handoffs still make these systems unreliable, even as automation becomes more common. We wrapped up with enterprise updates, new security concerns, and a hands-on look at Gwen Ways Gadget, the Ziea-One, the calendar-organizer clock robot, all finished off with a lively American whiskey tasting that sparked plenty of debate.

Feed fatigue, robo-fender-benders, and a desk gadget with egg eyes take center stage as we untangle a week where regulation, automation, and attention collide. We start with TikTok’s new reality: EU regulators label its design addictive, while U.S. oversight and ownership shifts trigger a jarring algorithm reset. Creators see their niche content vanish, reach plummet, and feeds feel sanitized or broken. We explore what accountability looks like when infinite scroll and autoplay meet duty of care—especially for younger users—and whether smarter design can keep discovery without weaponizing compulsion.

Then we pivot to the streets, where autonomy hit a pothole. A Waymo vehicle, even with a specialist onboard, scraped parked cars; a D.C. robo-minibus froze mid-lane after a minor crash; and an AI-enhanced used-car listing offered up cobblestone floor mats and two gear shifters. It’s funny until it isn’t. We cut through the headlines to the heart of the problem: brittle edge cases, unclear handoffs, and the non-negotiable need for human-in-the-loop safeguards. From staged rollouts to geofencing and real-world failover plans, we map the practices that separate novelty from reliability.

On the enterprise side, Microsoft’s long goodbye to Exchange Web Services sounds mundane—until your calendar syncs and SaaS bridges hiccup. We explain the timeline, what’s replacing EWS, and how to audit your hidden dependencies before 2027 arrives. To actually tame your day, we test-drive Zia One, a Kickstarter AI calendar that merges Google, Outlook, and more into a glanceable desktop display with voice commands, Pomodoro timers, and playful animations. It’s a focused bet on ambient computing—and we share how to evaluate crowdfunded hardware for real-world viability.

Security stakes stay high as Coinbase reports a contractor-enabled data access incident, complete with leaked screenshots of internal tools. We detail why outsourced support is a prime attack surface and lay out a practical blueprint for least privilege, session monitoring, and vendor governance. And yes, we sip through a four-bottle American whiskey flight, trade takes on flavor and finish, and crown a winner—with a few confident opinions that may not age well.

Hit play for a fast, clear, and funny tour through the week’s most consequential tech shifts, grounded in practical steps you can apply today. If you enjoy the show, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave us a review—then tell us: which trend needs the toughest guardrails right now?

Transcript

Opening And Show Setup

Introduction 0:00

Broadcasting across the nation from the East Coast to the West, keeping you up to date on technology while enjoying a little whiskey on the side with leading edge topics, along with special guests, to navigate technology in a segmented, stylized radio program. The information that will make you go, mmm. Pull up a seat, raise a glass with our hosts as we spend the next hour talking about technology for the common person. Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mum.

Nathan Mumm 0:31

Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mum, the show that makes you go. Technology News of the Week, the show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mum, your host and technologist with over 35 years of technology expertise. Our co-host Mike Roday is in the studio today. He's an award-winning author and our human behavior expert. And is what I call our reasoning of AI.

Mike Gorday 1:06

So when anything didn't you call me the AI guru, the AY the Notre Damas of AI. The Notre Damas of AI. There you go.

Nathan Mumm 1:15

Okay, that's better. Okay, now we're live streaming during our show on six of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, Twitch.tv, Facebook, LinkedIn, and now Kick and Rumble. We encourage you to visit us online at techtime radio.com and become a Patreon supporter at patreon.com forward slash techtime radio. We're friends from different backgrounds, but we bring the best technology show possible weekly for our family listeners and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have Odie our producer at the control panel today. Welcome everyone. Let's start today's show.

Introduction 1:45

Now on today's show.

Nathan Mumm 1:49

All right, today on the show we have Gwenway back for our gadgets and gears segment number two with something I'm very interested in, and you should be too. And of course, we have our standard features, including Mike's mesmerizing moment, our technology fail of the week, and impossible, Nathan Nugget, and of course our pick of the day whiskey tastings to see if our selected whiskey pick gets zero, one, or two thumbs up by the end of the show. You can see we have four glasses of whiskey in front of us, so that can only mean we're doing the Flavor calendar challenge. But now it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology.

Introduction 2:23

Here are our top technology stories of the week.

TikTok Faces EU And U.S. Shakeups

Nathan Mumm 2:28

All right, story number one: the European Union is kicking off what may become the largest regulatory shutdown TikTok has ever faced. After two years of investigations, the EU has ruled that TikTok's recommendation engine is addictive by design. No way. Pointing to infinite scroll, autoplay, and hyper-personalized feed as violations of the Digital Service Act. Now, Brussels has even said that their future that their future is unclear. And their features aren't clever. They're harmful, especially for miners. Let's go to Lisa Walker for more on what's happening.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

This is a digital sovereignty milestone. With TikTok's algorithm now under U.S. oversight, the question becomes will this set a precedent for other foreign-owned platforms operating in America? Tech Titan Oracle, the private equity firm Silverlake, and Abu Dhabi's MGX, each holding 15% stakes. The remaining shares are distributed among a consortium of global investors, including Michael Dell's Family Office, General Atlantic, and Yuri Milner's Virgo LI, while ByteDance retains a minority 19.9% stake. For now, TikTok's 200 million US users can keep scrolling, but the platform's future will be closely watched by regulators, rivals, and users alike. Back to you guys in the studio.

Nathan Mumm 4:00

All right, so let's talk about this. We talked a little bit about this last week, and now we're continuing on. What is happening to TikTok? So TikTok is getting blown up over the pond. And now here in the US, this addictive design is now being altered. We have the new company that you just heard about has taken over TikTok. And what it's doing is it's actually changing the algorithm. So here's the kicker these algorithms changed that aren't subtle. Creators are reporting massive drops and reach, whole categories and content has disappeared from their feed. It feels like they're putting through airport security to check every single post that it gets posted up there. Some users are saying that their app feels sanitized, others say it feels broken. And if you are already jumping shipped to other platforms, well, you're a big TikTok guy.

Mike Gorday 4:46

What's your what's your thing? Horrible, horrible.

Nathan Mumm 4:54

So I I was really into a bunch of like these guys out in the woods that build these houses with these like sticks and mud and everything like that. And you got these two guys, and they all they have is this little stick type of deal, and they carve out everything, they make mud huts. I was really into the home repair aspects of this, and they would show little tricks. And here's the five things you can use with common household goods. All these things were really great, and I enjoyed this. And now my feed is everything that I don't really care about. I am not a kitten person, I do not care about cats. Cats and the internet are why the internet is so popular. Well, so I have no interest in watching a bunch of cat videos, and now I'm getting bombarded with lots of lady stuff. So I mean, it has just changed absolutely the algorithm. And I don't know if they're trying to sanitize it, if this is going through and getting approved by the government. What's also interesting is now, do you realize that we're in a worse shape with TikTok with this American company owning it? Because essentially this company is able to. Are you okay there, Mike? Mike's choking up already on the story. All right. Okay, so what we're at now is this data, I'm sure, being sold to the American government. So it's no better than Reels or any of these other alternatives that we used to love TikTok for being at least not controlled by the United States government. And if this is what's going to happen, I I think TikTok is done. I I I I they had almost 50% of the US market and they kept on growing and growing. But I I fear that this may be the end days of TikTok. Well, I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Well, I guess if you're uh the addictive aspects of it, I guess it's not that big of a deal. All right.

Mike Gorday 6:37

Are you okay for story number two here? Yeah, I don't know. We'll we'll we'll try and figure this out. We'll see if it works. All right. All right. So uh you know how much I love AI. How much? Well well, never mind. Uh and we talk quite a bit about AI, you know, driven cars and things like that. So I have a I have a bunch of stuff where AI and vehicles just aren't working together very well. Okay. So, okay, and this is then this is kind of funny. Interest Autonomous vehicles are once again making headlines. And shockingly, it's not because they flawlessly ushered in the future. In Los Angeles, a Waymo car that was being manually driven by one of their own specialists uh drifted off a narrow residential road, hopped a patch of grass, and sideswiped a row of parked cars like it was auditioning for a demolition alley. Okay. Uh no injuries were reported, but it's another entry into Waymo's growing scrapbook of unexpected learning opportunities.

Creators’ Reach Tanks And Algorithm Angst

Mike Gorday 7:40

Right next to the blackout stalled robotaxis that the big software recall they probably prefer we stop mentioning. Okay. So uh I don't know, I don't know if there's any idea of if if the guy was truly in charge or w he was wrestling with Waymo to get away. Or he could have been testing it. He was testing it, or he was just, you know, just sleeping. Just sleeping, okay. Yeah, you're sleeping okay. That's what people do in Waymo cars, don't they? All right. Uh meanwhile, Washington DC, uh a beep minibus got into a fender bender with a Tesla on eight steel. Uh uh, this is an autonomous bus. Safety driver and passenger stepped out while the Robo bus just sat there in the middle of the road blocking traffic like it decided to take a personal day off. Okay. Drivers tied to squeeze around it. Uh pedestrians stared and the whole thing felt like a demonstration of uh Frogger. I don't know if you remember that game. A Frogger video game? Yeah. Yeah. Uh isn't that where you were the frog and you had to jump across the street and knock out? I don't think you have to explain it. If you don't know it, no one needs to explain it. Okay. Uh just because it's autonomous doesn't mean the smart. Did the did the Tesla rear-end it what that what happened? The Tesla rear-ended it. I wonder if that guy was on self-driving mode. You think I I don't know. Uh and then the internet said, Hold my cobblestone floor mats. Uh, a seller trying to list his 1999 Cadillac Deville used AI to enhance the photos. And the reser results were pure art, I suppose pure art. Uh, mismatched taillights, missing trim, two different colored door handles, and because AI has a sense of humor, two gear shifters. The real masterpiece was the cobblestone interior. Floor mats, engine bay, and the whole thing looked like the world's first Cadillac designed by the Flintstones. The listing site eventually pulled that ad, probably after realizing they weren't equipped to sell vehicles from that era. Yeah. So here we are again. Uh watching the tech world sprint ahead while tripping over its own shoelaces. And somewhere in the background. I'm probably saying AI still needs adult supervision. Alright. Okay. So what do you think about all these AI cars? You know what I think. It it's not suitable for radio. It's not suitable for radio? No. I think I think we're But wouldn't you take a WAMO to the airport you said?

Nathan Mumm 10:22

Didn't you say that one time?

Mike Gorday 10:23

No. No. No. I will not ever in my life step in a self-driving car unless it's a demonstration inside a in like a controlled area? Controlled area. Yeah, I will never put my life in in traffic with that. Okay. And I don't use self-driving cars. I don't I don't own a Tesla. And I I don't use AI generated images often because you can't get them to work right. You can't.

Ody 10:57

Yeah, I I was gonna say, if you get the chance, I definitely recommend checking out our website and looking at this blog post link to the story. Because as a seller, why aren't you verifying these images before you put it out on the internet? Yeah. Like there there were so many things wrong with it.

Nathan Mumm 11:13

The two gear shifts, the fact that like that was hilarious because one is in where you'd turn the keys. Okay, right? So it saw the key ignition.

Autonomous Vehicles’ Bad Week

Nathan Mumm 11:20

And so one of the gear shifts is where you'd expect your key to be, and the other one was in the right area, but it had two of them, and one was in drive and one was in park. So I mean it just one was high up and one was down low. So I don't know how that vehicle would ever get to to move forward with that configuration.

Ody 11:35

But the cobblestone floor mats now is really like like, are you not looking before you post?

Mike Gorday 11:40

No. No. That's somebody just doing something and that's the the problem that I've always had with the technology is not not necessarily that we have the technology, it's how we use the technology. That's of course. That's that's my that's my core problem with with all this stuff. And that should be everybody's core problem with it's not the fact that it exists, it's the it's what people do with it. Right, how it's used. Yeah. Because that's you know, that's how we get things like Hiroshima.

unknown 12:12

Oh.

Mike Gorday 12:13

Oh wow, we're going all the way there.

Nathan Mumm 12:14

Yeah. Okay. Uh-uh. All right.

Ody 12:16

You know, it's great when you can use it as a tool and be disciplined about it, but when you start to abuse it and disregard like just the general making sure that there's not two gear shifts in a car.

Mike Gorday 12:27

Yeah, you should look at your pictures before you post them online. Come on now. Yeah, you should do a whole lot of things, but we don't. So we won't.

Nathan Mumm 12:33

You know what? There should be a nationwide penalty. If you post AI pictures and they're so incorrect that you get fined. You know what? Maybe, maybe you receive a letter from Trump that says you're my guy.

Mike Gorday 12:47

That's a little that's a little over the top there, buddy.

Nathan Mumm 12:50

I don't know, because there's a lot of people posting AI stuff, and what it makes it really difficult is when you actually now post real stuff. And then I I've posted some real stuff just recently, and I get comments, oh, this is AI, or this is AI. I'm like, no, it's not AI. There should definitely be a disclosure. There's nothing at all about this to say, oh, that looks like AI. They're using AI, and I'm just like, oh my word. Okay, well, thanks. You know, you are AI. I am I so there you go. I'm a robot. You're just a robot.

Ody 13:16

He's hallucinating.

Nathan Mumm 13:17

All right, story. There you go. I wish I did. All right, story number three. Microsoft is shutting down an old behind-the-scenes technology called Exchange Web Services or EWS. EWS is a Microsoft cloud email system, which is called Exchange Online. Think of EWS as the plumbing to many apps that have been used for almost 20 years to read your email, check your calendar, sync your contacts. Any little gadget device that you have, most likely at some time was written so that EWS could connect to your calendar itself. Do you have any little gadget that that that gives you information, like a little PDA device or anything?

Mike Gorday 13:57

All my crap is integrated this day.

Nathan Mumm 13:59

Okay. Well, Microsoft says this old plumbing isn't secure and reliable enough anymore, so they're replacing it. Starting late 2026. What was that?

Mike Gorday 14:08

They're charging you for now? Microtransacting your emails.

Nathan Mumm 14:15

Yeah, last week's episode, the Two Truths and the Lie got you there. All right, starting in 2026, Microsoft will begin turning EWS off, and by April 2027, it'll be gone completely. Some companies may get short test outages ahead of time so you can see what breaks before the final shutdown. Now, Microsoft has warned about this for many years, so the this final countdown should not come as a supply. So if your company uses apps that plug into Outlook or your calendar or your IT team, we'll make sure that they need to update these systems before the old system disappears. Yeah. So so you work for a full-time job. You hit you work for a government I yes, I work for state government. All right, so guess what? I bet you this is gonna hit you way more than um other people because this is the easy way to write code and and to integrate with and stuff. So I hope your IT team is up to the par. Well, or do they need to consult with them?

Mike Gorday 15:09

I I don't know. I mean, we're they're like everybody else. Uh we get notices all the time about stuff going on and how they're trying to fix stuff and and whatnot. So Okay. Maybe maybe maybe they already got it taken care of. I is as long as I can do my job, I don't give a crap.

Nathan Mumm 15:28

Okay. Well, that ends our top technology. That you know what? That should be a plug-in right here. That's gonna be a quote of the day. As long as I can do my job, I don't give a crap. All right, that's right. Okay, well, that ends our top technology stories of the week. When we return, we have gadgets and gear gal Gwenway ready to take on a new gadget on Kickstarter. You're listening to Tech Time with Nathan Mum. We'll be back after this commercial break.

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Nathan Mumm 16:42

Welcome back to Tech Time with our weekly show covers the top technology subjects. Without any political agenda, we verify the facts, we do it with a sense of humor in less than 60 minutes, and of course, a little whiskey on the side. We are going to have a lot of whiskey. All right, today, Mark, yes, Craig, our whiskey connoisseur, is in. Tell us what are we doing and what are we tasting today?

Marc Grégoire 17:05

We are using our 2025 Flavor Whiskey Advent Calendar with 24 remarkable

AI Image Fails And Human Responsibility

Marc Grégoire 17:10

whiskeys to use for our year-long blind whiskey competition to see which one Nathan and Mike like best for this year. Come along for the ride once a month while they uncover new tastes and train for a second year their senses to become true connoisseurs since they did not achieve it the first year.

unknown 17:26

Oh wow.

Marc Grégoire 17:27

Today is round one two of six, where they will choose their winner to move on to the next round. If they disagree, I will be deciding vote. So you better agree. Today, we are tasting four classic American whiskies, three bourbons, and one burry. A lineup that sits right in the sweet spot between tradition and experimentation. You have the familiar comfort of bourbon doing what it does best, alongside a burry that adds just enough rice spice to keep things interesting, and reminds us all that rules are more like suggestions. It is a flight built to spark opinions, debates, and at least one confident take that may not age well by the end of the episode. Uh-oh. One take that will not age well. So how you how you how do you like them?

Nathan Mumm 18:15

There we go. Let's hear your take. So I actually am He likes all of them. So I'm kinda right now I'm kind of doing that. That's with my favorite. The rocks glass?

Segment 18:27

Yeah.

Nathan Mumm 18:27

Of course it is. Why is that? Is that the one you hate?

Mike Gorday 18:32

Uh that's not my that's not my first choice. Okay, okay. Um what's your first drink?

Nathan Mumm 18:37

What what is it right now?

Mike Gorday 18:38

So far, right now, my first choice is the tall glass.

Nathan Mumm 18:41

Okay. All right. Uh that's my that's my third, so uh we'll see how that happens later. All right.

Marc Grégoire 18:49

Nathan's Nathan, for two months in a row, he's liking the celebrity whiskey. Am I? Oh boy.

Mike Gorday 18:57

This isn't Beyonce's whiskey again, is it?

Marc Grégoire 18:59

No, it's not. No, no, that one got kicked out. This is Paris Hilton's. And I'm sure this one's gonna get kicked out, too. Unless we both choose it. Wow, wow, wow. Uh, I'm probably not gonna choose it.

Mike Gorday 19:08

All right. Just stop printing.

Marc Grégoire 19:11

Don't forget, everybody out there, like and subscribe. We love those. Drink responsibly because heaven can wait.

Nathan Mumm 19:16

All right. Well, with our whiskey tasting completed, let's move on to our feature segment today. We have Gwen Way joining the show. She's an expert in cybersecurity during the day and a game board geek in the evening. And of course, a producer of Tech Time Radio in our gadgets and gear segment, gal. Let's get ready to start our Comcast video stream now.

Introduction 19:35

What's new in our gadgets and gear?

Nathan Mumm 19:39

All right, welcome back to the show. Gwen, tell us a little bit about yourself for the new listeners that maybe just joining our program.

SPEAKER_05 19:46

Thank you so much, Nathan. I always enjoy being here. Uh, as you said, I am a daytime geek. I am out there working in cybersecurity and have been for the last about six or seven years. I love it. Perfect.

Nathan Mumm 20:01

It's a lot of fun. Perfect, perfect. Now, Gwen, what are we looking at today? This is this is a uh an item that I probably spent 30 minutes looking at after we had it on the production show. Uh, I did back it. I hope it's legitimately going to happen and and and such for that. But tell everybody what do you have for us today?

SPEAKER_05 20:20

Well, you know, we got through January with our New Year's resolutions. We're getting into February and everything's starting to slow down. We have to keep track of everything. So I'm bringing everybody an AI calendar.

Nathan Mumm 20:33

An AI calendar. Okay.

Mike Gorday 20:35

Don't I already have one of those? What do you what do you have for an AI calendar? Isn't Google now an AI calendar?

Nathan Mumm 20:40

I guess Google, well, they have their Gemini thing. They're trying to pop all over everywhere. It's on Chrome and this and that. But it it's like it's like the 16-year-old kid that sometimes gets it right and that sometimes doesn't get it right. I I do have an AI tool that I use a little bit. It's called Marbleism. That's done an okay job. But um, tell us what is unique about this.

SPEAKER_05 21:02

Well, this lovely thing uh you can find, as you said, on Kickstarter. It's called Zia One. Uh it's Z-I-E-A 1. Uh, and it actually takes all of your calendars, compiles them into one place. It gives you the ability to actually create new calendar entries or change calendar entries uh vocally rather than having to actually go into an app and word calendar to make the changes. And it also can do fun things like show you pictures, and it has a little animated guy with eyes that look kind of like fried eggs. So, you know, it's fun.

Nathan Mumm 21:41

All right, okay. Now is this like clippy? Is this a physical device or is this software that you load on your computer?

SPEAKER_05 21:47

It is a physical device. So you've got a completely separate device that will be focused on your calendar. Uh, it will show you what tasks you have to do. You can mark them as done, so it's a great way. To kind of digitize your

Microsoft Retires EWS And Enterprise Impact

SPEAKER_05 22:02

to-do list. Uh, you can add to it, as I said, just verbally, or you can go into an app on your phone where you'll be able to add things as well.

Nathan Mumm 22:10

All right. So so tell me uh a little bit more about this. Because at first, when you think about this, you're like, oh, this is a little device. This is like a device that has like eyes, right? So it's like a little computer guy that's on the right-hand side. You talk to it. Now, yeah, I'm sure it's AI enabled. So what version of AI is it using? Is it using something strong and that reliable or or or is it its own AI tool set? It's grok.

SPEAKER_05 22:36

It is, it is not grok, thankfully. Uh, it's called GPT-5.

Nathan Mumm 22:43

Okay. So is it so is that open AI's chat GPT-5 that it's using then? Okay. Oh, so we're gonna go. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 22:49

Exactly. And they're talking about making more integrations in the future. This is just what it is now.

Nathan Mumm 22:55

Okay, so this is kind of like an alarm clock. That was the best way I could describe it to somebody was it's like an alarm clock that sits next to your desk with two eyes that kind of look at you.

Mike Gorday 23:05

It's it it's kind of like a combination of Alexa and alarm clock.

SPEAKER_05 23:10

And it's an Alexa, it's an alarm clock. It can be used to actually charge devices. Uh, it keeps track of weather for you. You can display photos on it if you want to have something nice on your desk so that you can look at it. It's got a little bit of everything. And it can, like I was saying in the beginning, kind of combine multiple calendars into one device. So you're not having to look at your Google calendar and then go over to your Outlook calendar, and then, you know, for those of us who are old school, your Yahoo calendar and combine them, you can see everything in one place. So let's go. Yahoo calendar.

Mike Gorday 23:48

I thought old school meant writing it down on a piece of paper.

SPEAKER_05 23:51

Right?

Nathan Mumm 23:52

So if I have 10 email accounts per se, let's just say that I that's actually conservative, I think. For you. For me. So 10 email accounts, I can consolidate all 10 email accounts into this device and it will help organize them.

SPEAKER_05 24:04

Exactly. Well, the calendar specifically, you can combine them all into this device and it's going to be able to kind of tell you, okay, you've got this meeting on this calendar, go take care of it.

Nathan Mumm 24:16

What if I want to cancel a meeting? Do I just say cancel a meeting?

SPEAKER_05 24:20

Yeah, you can tell it to cancel the meeting, it'll send out the cancellation, it's all taken care of. You can also use it as a Pomodoro timer for those who work well with that, where it tells you, okay, you've been working for 40 minutes, time to take a break and look at something else.

Mike Gorday 24:36

I said, How does this how does this not combat anxiety?

SPEAKER_05 24:41

Oh, it's it's definitely not meant to combat anxiety uh unless you are a very organized person who just wants to know every minute of your day to out.

Mike Gorday 24:51

Well, yeah, so what I what I what I'm hearing is that uh it takes every piece of information that I have on everything else and sticks them in one spot so I can tell how ADHD I really am.

SPEAKER_05 25:05

Exactly how busy an ADHD you are. Exactly.

Mike Gorday 25:09

Okay, all right. And and to me that that that would cause a lot of anxiety.

SPEAKER_05 25:15

It could.

Mike Gorday 25:17

Then I would see, like, hey, I've got like five appointments on the same day at the same time. Yeah, I can't.

Nathan Mumm 25:22

How did that happen?

Mike Gorday 25:23

That's right.

Nathan Mumm 25:24

Okay, so tell us about the stats. How backers can find this, where the company is located, how many pledges it has. Let's get into the nuts and bolts on this.

SPEAKER_05 25:32

Certainly, certainly. So, first and easiest, go to Kickstarter.com, look for Zia. It's Z-I-E-A. That's the name of the device and the name of the creator, so that makes it much easier to find. Uh, it is currently sitting at almost $40,000 of a $10,000 goal.

Nathan Mumm 25:55

So is it fully funded then?

SPEAKER_05 25:57

It is fully funded at this point. There are 161 people who have already backed it, and you have until March 5th to join in as a backer. So you've got a little bit of time if you want to do some more research. I will say one of the nice things that I've seen is the creator is fairly busy in the comments responding to things, making sure everybody knows what's going on. Okay. And they're updating the FAQs on a regular basis to make sure that answers are there.

Mike Gorday 26:25

So you gotta be careful with Kickstarter. So just say that. Well, yeah. So it but you know, everybody seems to want something that's gonna take all the information, dump it into a single calendar, and then watch you with silently judging egg eyes.

Nathan Mumm 26:40

It's true. Okay, it's true.

Mike Gorday 26:42

Actually, you know what?

Nathan Mumm 26:43

I do kind of want one.

Mike Gorday 26:44

You want something that stares at you while you're trying to figure out your calendar?

Nathan Mumm 26:48

So we we uh I I have a Kickstarter, a little horror story that we we talked about that little dot thing. And let me just tell you, I I got an email from the Kickstarter backer. This was uh two years ago, we talked about on

Whiskey Flight Setup And Banter

Nathan Mumm 27:00

Tech Time Radio. Um, and it was a great idea. The Kickstarter guy just kind of sent an email out to all the Kickstarters saying, Hey, I've ran out of your money, I don't know what to do, and I'm not a software developer, so best of luck. Hopefully, you can get your device to work. They said that. They said that. And then he says, if you have any ideas or are a developer and could help us with this, if you want to take over this project, why would you take over a project that's already been funded that he spent the money on? He's like, You can do that more than than you'd like at he probably wrote he probably wrote you from the Riviera.

Mike Gorday 27:31

Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_05 27:32

That's possible. That's possible. This one, they've been in development for over a year, so they actually have all of their prototypes. You can see videos of it if you go to Kickstarter. And and keeping track of that kind of thing and seeing videos that are not clearly AI is another good sign of this could really be a real product that is released.

Nathan Mumm 27:55

Absolutely. I I I did back it myself. So, final question since I backed it, are you looking to get one of these?

SPEAKER_05 28:02

Oh, yeah, I would love to have one of these on my desk.

Nathan Mumm 28:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 28:05

This will be great.

Mike Gorday 28:06

That's all right. There you go. Can I make it stare at the people I'm having meetings with? No, yeah, no, because it's a good idea.

SPEAKER_05 28:13

I mean, if you turn it, you could probably get it to face the camera. It does have about 40 animations right now, and they're looking to add more. So it could be anything like Michael talked to it, they'll just start crying.

Mike Gorday 28:27

That's that's that's where I think about stuff like that. I can just turn it around on my desk and have it stare at people I'm chatting with.

Nathan Mumm 28:34

All right, before you go here, where is it at? What is the name again? One last time, Gwen.

SPEAKER_05 28:39

It is at kickstarter.com. Look up Zia Z-I-E-A one.

Nathan Mumm 28:45

All right, Gwen, thank you so much for coming on the show. It's always a pleasure to talk about new gadgets with you each month. Bye, Gwen. All right, we want to thank Gwen for being a part of the show. She does a great job finding the most unique items each month for our show. Uh, if it was up to her, I think all of our stuff would always just be earbuds because she loves earbuds. But she does choose different stuff and she chose this one. She knew I'm a robot guy, and I have uh at least eight robots just here

Gadgets & Gear: Zia One AI Calendar

Nathan Mumm 29:10

in my office space right now, listening to us. I mean, yeah, okay. All right, but let's move on now to Mike's mesmerizing moment.

Segment 29:20

Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment. What does Mike have to say today?

Nathan Mumm 29:28

All right, Mike, here's my question for you. Do you have a thought on social media apps being monitored by a government? So we kind of let off a ticket. Monitored or regulated? Well, no, just mod I asked monitored. Monitored by a government. Not necessarily that we're going back to the TikTok with the United States, but would you have a problem or what's your thoughts on the social media apps being monitored by a government?

Mike Gorday 29:52

I I'm not sure how to answer that because they monitor everything anyway. Okay. So, you know, it's it's kind of like that. Well, if you're going to use it, you're you're at some point may get somebody from the government monitoring it. Well, there you shouldn't be.

Nathan Mumm 30:07

I I think the original idea of social media was to have private conversations.

Mike Gorday 30:11

Yeah, I'm sure that was the case until criminals started posting their crimes on social media and drawing the attention of the cops. Okay. You know. As far as regulating, I I I'm I think that's is the case with everything. Uh the government at some point has to always step in and do stuff because we always take things to the extreme.

SPEAKER_10 30:36

Is it is it because we take things to extreme extra. So we push the envelope so badly that they always have to come on in.

Mike Gorday 30:41

Yeah, the human the human being is not responsible. We we we take everything and go to we just go everywhere with it. Okay. Uh I'm sure that when we started with social media that uh we didn't realize where it would take off from or to. And then, you know, it started off with posting cat videos and whatnot, and now we're now we're like creating terrorist cells and and things like that using social media. So I don't think we realize the consequences of our actions because we we simply take things and run with it. So the government ultimately has to start stepping in and doing things. It's kind of a sad and yeah, it's a sad thing because nobody wants the government stepping in and and into my business, right? I don't want I don't want the government watching me for anything. Yeah, no?

Nathan Mumm 31:35

No, no, no. That's why I used to love TikTok when it was China-based, because I knew the Chinese government was watching me, but now that it's in America.

Mike Gorday 31:44

Is it because is it because the Chinese the Chinese government couldn't really do anything to you now that's correct? What's the Chinese government could do? See, now now I just figured it. Now I just figured out why you're such a TikTok fan. See, there you go. You were like, oh, everybody's bad. I'll just give my information to China. They can't do anything with it. Okay. There you go. All right. Thank you, Mike, for that mesmerizing. Oh, yeah, that sure.

SPEAKER_06 32:10

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Nathan Mumm 32:34

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Ody 32:55

I do. I'll be sure to submit it on our website, attireadio.com.

Nathan Mumm 32:59

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Ody 33:02

I can. No. If a girl dreams, yeah, she's gonna be a good thing. You know what I mean?

Nathan Mumm 33:05

She'll tell her sister. She'll tell her sister what to do, right? All right. When we return, we have this week in technology, so now would be a great time to enjoy a little whiskey on the side, as we're gonna be doing so during this break. You're listening to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumsey in a few minutes. Hey Mike. Yeah, what's up? Hey, so you know what? We need that people to start liking our uh social media pages.

Mike Gorday 33:26

If you like our show, if you really like us, we could use your support on patreon.com. Or is it Patreon? I think it's Patreon. Okay, Patreon. If you really like us, you can say I'm the English guy?

Nathan Mumm 33:38

Patreon.com. I I butcher the English language? You know you butcher the English language. Okay, so it's all the time.

Mike Gorday 33:44

Patreon.com. If you really like if you really like our show, you can subscribe to Patreon.com and help us out. Oh, and you can visit us on that Facebook platform. You know the one that Zuckerberg owns? The one that we always bag on?

Nathan Mumm 33:57

Yeah, you can we're on Facebook too. Yeah, like us on Facebook. Do you know what our Facebook page is? Tech Time Radio. At Tech Time Radio. You know what? There's a trend here.

Mike Gorday 34:06

It seems to be that there's a trend, and that's Tech Time Radio.

Nathan Mumm 34:09

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Mike Gorday 34:19

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Nathan Mumm 34:21

Like us today. We need you to like us.

Mike Gorday 34:23

Like us and subscribe.

Nathan Mumm 34:24

That's it. That's it. That's that simple.

Introduction 34:28

And now, let's look back at this week in technology.

Nathan Mumm 34:34

Alright, we're going back to February 11th, 2004. That is the day that podcasts began. Alright, on February 11th, 2004, The Guardian published Ben Hammersley's article, Audio Revolution, capturing the moment amateur audio on the internet began to explode. With iPods everywhere, free audio editing tools, and blogging already mainstreamed, the stage was set for a brand new kind of do-it-yourself radio. Hammersley noted that this movement didn't even have a name yet, and floated three possible names Audio blogging, Gorilla Media, and podcasting as possibilities. Thanks to the iPod's massive popularity, podcasting became the term that stuck. And it changed media forever. Earlier pioneers like Christopher London proved anyone with a microphone and website could broadcast directly to an audience without any gatekeepers. This moment marked the true birth of modern on-demand audio where creators and listeners finally took control of the airwaves. Until everybody started regulating everything. Oh wait. Well I just talked about that. You can still put stuff out there. That was this weekend technology. If you ever wanted to watch some tech time history or listen, we have 280 plus weekly broadcasts spanning our five plus years of video, podcasts, and blog information. You can visit us at techtime radio.com to watch our older shows. We're going to take a commercial break. When we return, we have the Mark Mumble whiskey review. See you after this.

Mike Gorday 36:00

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Introduction 36:26

The segment we've been waiting all week for.

Nathan Mumm 36:37

Love that mistake. Alright.

Kickstarter Risks, Funding, And Use Cases

Nathan Mumm 36:40

What do we got going on today?

Marc Grégoire 36:41

Oh, we are so I would I I I shouldn't say we are celebrating. I'm looking around the room. I think I'm the only one really celebrating today. Uh-oh. Why is that? Today is National Flannel Day.

Nathan Mumm 36:52

Oh, National Flannel. There's a uh there's a there's a flannel day. Well, I'm glad I'm glad that it's in February. That makes more sense than it being in like uh July or August.

Marc Grégoire 37:02

So okay. So yeah, we so to celebrate flannel, a fabric that has been keeping people warm, comfortable, and extremely handsome for more than 400 years. Whether it is work wear, weekend wear, or the universal symbol of not trying too hard, flannel proves that sometimes the simplest classics never go out of style. Oh that's that's true.

Nathan Mumm 37:24

I like your flannel shirt. Where'd you get your flannel shirt from? Lumberjacks or us?

Marc Grégoire 37:29

Where do you think? It's a pendleton. Oh, it's a Pendleton.

Nathan Mumm 37:32

Okay.

Marc Grégoire 37:34

That's that's high-end.

Nathan Mumm 37:35

That's why Lumberjacks go to get the clothes. That's like a $400 flannel. Okay, I got you. All right. Got it on sale. Okay.

Mike Gorday 37:42

Okay, high-end lumberjacks.

Nathan Mumm 37:44

All right.

Marc Grégoire 37:45

Now, flannel and American whiskey go hand in hand. Both are timeless, dependable, and best enjoyed when comfort matters more than pretending you are fancy.

Nathan Mumm 37:54

And one makes you look good and the other makes everybody else look good? You're saying that flannel's timeless. Is that what you're saying?

Marc Grégoire 38:00

That's what I'm saying.

Nathan Mumm 38:01

Okay, all right.

Marc Grégoire 38:02

Now the four American whiskeys we are drinking today are drum roll. Yeah. One of them is Heaven's Door Revelation. From Heaven's Door, it's a blend of Tennessee and Kentucky. It's a burr rye. It's double-barreled. Age at least five years, 100-proof. Mash Bills undisclosed, but we know it's two bourbons and one rye blended together, and it's $50. Okay. The other one is First West Small Batch Bourbon from 15 stars. It's from Kentucky, straight bourbon, five to seven years, 102 proof, mash bills undisclosed, and $60. Okay. The other one is Oak Lore 4-grain. Bourbon. Four grain. So that's from Oak Lore Distilling from Kentucky and North Carolina. Okay. It's a bourbon, also double barreled, four to six years, 92 proof. It's a blend. When the blend is together, it comes out to 72% corn, 11% wheat, 10% rye, 7% malted barley. And that's $70. That's our most expensive one. Along with Great, great.

Nathan Mumm 39:08

Am I like the celebrity one? Is the celebrity one cheaper than that?

Marc Grégoire 39:12

Along with chicken cock, small batch bourbon. Oh. From Grain and Barrel Spirits. It's a straight bourbon from Kentucky. Minimum of four years, 100-proof, 70% corn, 21% rye, 9% malted barley. And that one is also $70. Okay. I'm not telling you which one you like, or I'm not giving you any hints yet. Those are our four.

Nathan Mumm 39:34

I thought he said that I like the celebrity stuff.

Marc Grégoire 39:36

I did. Do you know which one of those is a celebrity one? No.

Nathan Mumm 39:40

I was waiting for a celebrity name.

Marc Grégoire 39:41

I I cut it out at this point. Oh a lot of our listeners will know which one it is.

Nathan Mumm 39:46

Well, the chicken cock has to not be because we've had them on a couple times before. So they're their own. Yeah, we have not had this particular chicken cock on. Oh, is that a celebrity version of chicken cock?

Marc Grégoire 39:58

No, no, no. It is not. I'll give you that hint. Okay. All right. Well. So, Mike, you were liking which one you said the best? Uh, the tall glass. The tall glass. The water glass. Oh boy. That's like my third worst. Oh no. Do I have to start tasting? Uh you may have to start tasting.

Nathan Mumm 40:16

I had that. I had that. I I the shot. But what about this right here? Come on. This glass was good.

Mike Gorday 40:21

You know, that's okay. It's okay. But it's it's kind of just bleh when you compare it to all the rest of Oh, it doesn't have that. It's meh. It's meh. It's meh.

Marc Grégoire 40:32

Okay.

Mike Gorday 40:33

All right.

Nathan Mumm 40:34

Is that it?

Marc Grégoire 40:35

That's it for this.

Nathan Mumm 40:36

All right. Well, we'll give you we'll reveal everything in a little bit. Whiskey and technology are such a great pairing. Like time travel. And the TV show Timeless. Kind of like your flannel you're wearing on right now. It's a show about a team of time travelers that go back in time to prevent a dangerous faction rewriting critical events in American history. Anyone remember that show? Yeah, that was a good show. I liked it. Did you have you seen it? I watched it all. What did you think? Not as good as Quantum Leap, I'm sure, but. No, no.

Marc Grégoire 41:09

It had

Government Monitoring And Social Media

Marc Grégoire 41:10

its strength. So it started off a little rocky. Okay. And then it got really good. And then what do you say? They jumped a shark near the end. The third season or whatever it was. A little bit.

Nathan Mumm 41:22

Alright. Well, let's prepare for our technology fail of the week brought to you by Elite Executive Services. Congratulations.

Mike Gorday 41:29

You're a failure.

Nathan Mumm 41:31

Oh, I failed. Did I? Yes. Did I? Yes. Alright, this week's technology fail goes to the company Coinbase. Oh no. Yeah, the cryptocurrency. This is your dude. Well, this is the only place that I recommend buying cryptocurrency. But the company confirmed that one of its own contractors, here's what happens to companies. They want to get contractors in to do the work because they don't want to hire full-time employees. So they go to a contract service, get the bottom of the barrel, and that can get you in trouble. Well, its own contractor improperly accessed customer data in a quiet insider breach back in December. Only about 30 users, though, were affected. But the real embarrassment embarrassment came when a threat group called itself Scattered Lapis Hunters or Lapis Hunters briefly posted a screenshot of Coinbase's internal support tools on Telegram, showing names, email, phone numbers, KYC details, and even wallet balances. Coinbase says the contractor is gone. I'm sure they fired him, of course. Regulators were notified, and identity theft protection was handed out to those 30 people. But the screenshots make it clear that someone on the inside had far more access than they should have. And this isn't an isolated problem. Attackers have been targeting outsourced support companies because their employees are often the key to internal systems. We've seen bribery screams, social engineering calls, and compromised support accounts. Winbase itself suffered a similar breach last year and another outsourced support provider. So this is the second time. Okay. The pattern is obvious. Winbase doesn't get it. No, the pattern is obvious. You can lock down your servers all you want, but if your support contractors can be bribed for screenshots, your security strategy has a giant human-shaped hole in the middle of it.

Mike Gorday 43:22

Well, I just because it's just as easy for an employee to do it as well as a contractor.

Nathan Mumm 43:27

So yeah, it's just so here's what happens to companies, right? I mean, so Mark is in charge of a large company IT team. Uh, I'm in charge of an IT team also in our full-time jobs. I know that people probably assume that Tech Time Radio is our full time job, but it is only a part time of our work and we have full time jobs. When I hire contractors, I have to be very careful about what we put in place. Mark, do you kind of do the same thing when you when you hire a contractor or have you uh hired a contractor at your current place? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's a it's a pretty long process. Pretty long process. Do you give them the keys to the kingdom? Oh no, no. Do you give anybody the keys of the kingdom? So at my company, there's myself and one other guy that have the keys of the kingdom. And everybody else has uh permissions that are either elevated or decreased depending upon the access that they need. Now we're we're not always perfect. I'll

Secret Sound And Community Plug

Nathan Mumm 44:20

say sometimes somebody has more access than they should, or somebody has less access.

Mike Gorday 44:23

Well, this is this is the crux of all everything that I always talk about. And it boils down to one thing. What's that? Human beings. Human beings. Yep. So every problem we have results from the meddling of certain people that don't follow rules.

Nathan Mumm 44:43

So let me talk, let me talk about this. I have gotten hit up so aggressively lately on uh Amazon for people that want me to buy their product. I send them the product that they have then, and then give them a five-star review. They'll let me keep the product and they'll pay me 15 to 20 bucks for each review. Really? I I'm finding this now. So before it used to be one every two or three months, I literally had two um offers the last three weeks, all pretty much consecutively on some IT gadgets that I kind of actually liked. And I'm struggling because I I I'm interested in that, but I don't want to give a five-star review on something, especially immediately. So they want you to buy it as soon as you have it at home, they want you to give that five-star review. And and ethically, I I if I was gonna say if I like something, I normally actually like it. I I don't think I can I can do that. But now I'm getting very frustrated because before you used to be able to purchase these items and you could give it a month and then you could actually give a review. Now they want them instantly. What were you gonna say, Mike?

Mike Gorday 45:44

So is is it strictly stated in the in their little whatever they is to talk to you that if you give them a five-star review, you they will give you money? Yes. Or is it if you review the product, they'll give you money?

Nathan Mumm 45:59

No, after you we after we receive a five-star review, take a screenshot and then we will pay you. It's not asking for anything lower than that.

Mike Gorday 46:10

And that means that you know their product gets rated higher. Their product gets rated higher. They're not they're not basing it on real object not that there is objectivity, but objective results, they are buying five-star reviews. Yes. Which is you know that's kind of a bad get isn't that a bad deal? It's not ethical. Okay, yeah, there you go. Which is, you know, it's kind of funny that you brought that up.

Nathan Mumm 46:39

There you go. All right, well, I was just I was just thinking about screenshots, and they wanted me to take the screenshots, so they're uh that that that's how that's how the Nathan's mind.

Marc Grégoire 46:49

So tell us finally, did you listen to your ethics or did you take the money? Yeah, did you did you not reveal conscience?

Nathan Mumm 46:56

Yeah, I did. I I I did my ethics. Wow, congratulations. Now, if it was like 30 bucks instead of 10, 10 bucks the price. Everybody has their price. That's right. All right, well, now let's move on to the nugget.

Introduction 47:10

This is your nugget of the week.

This Week In Tech: Birth Of Podcasting

Nathan Mumm 47:14

All right, you're gonna love this. A new NIH funded study has data that is posted on the American Diabet Diabetes Association website with an extreme on-brand name soda, which is Diet Coke, uh found people in a well-controlled type 2 diabetes actually did slightly better on diet drinks than water. So this report comes on out that says Diet Coke is better than drinking water for diabetes.

Marc Grégoire 47:50

Great news.

Nathan Mumm 47:51

No, no, no, no, I actually looked at everything. So I'm a big Diet Coke uh drinker. So I was very it came across my feed and I'm like, oh, this has gotta be good. With over 24 weeks, the diet drink group saw tiny improvements in the HBA1C fasting glucose and insulin plus token two pounds weight loss. So the people drinking Diet Coke in this group actually lost two pounds of weight loss. Meanwhile, the waters group number drifted the wrong way. Nothing dramatic, but just to let you know, you should really drink water instead. But for those friends clutching that Stanley Cup a little tighter, you may want to mix in not too much water. But before anything's declared, Diet Coke is super food. The researchers are clear. This doesn't prove diet soda is better than water for everyone. It only tells us that for a specific group, switching to water didn't help and may have mildly backfired.

Mike Gorday 48:49

I think the message you should really take away from this is that you know, diet coke really isn't that bad for you.

Nathan Mumm 48:54

That's what that's what you're saying.

Mike Gorday 48:56

Everybody says, you know, diet sodas are bad for you, sodas are bad for you, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yep. You need to drink how many glasses of water today that you need to drink? 85 or something like that?

Nathan Mumm 49:07

Well, no, see, no, so what happens is people are over-drinking too much water.

Mike Gorday 49:11

And and that's that's because we've got into this sort of myth of hydration that is really pushed on us by fitness groups. It's the same thing as 10,000 steps things. You know, they they they have now come out with studies that said, hey, uh that 10,000 step thing, really not a really really not a it's it's kind of a myth.

Marc Grégoire 49:37

All right. Well, let me let me put a refrain here or call an asterisk. Neither one of these two jokers is a medical expert. No. And now don't take any advice from these two.

Nathan Mumm 49:47

Okay, okay. Now this is a report. I'm just I'm just talking about the report.

Marc Grégoire 49:51

I can still read things and make decisions.

Nathan Mumm 49:52

That's right. So I'm just reading it. What this says says, at worse, diet coke for a certain diabetes group is about the same as water.

Marc Grégoire 50:02

Right. So I would lose weight if I did it too, because it I'd be having diarrhea all the time.

Mike Gorday 50:09

Is that your is that your professional medical opinion? No, that's just my own personal experience. Personal experience.

Coinbase Contractor Breach And Access Controls

Mike Gorday 50:15

Anytime I drink the diet stuff, it's uh these these things these things come out because why? Because we have all this all this industry madness saying, oh, if you drink, if you drink Diet Coke, you're going to die horribly from cancer, blah, blah, blah.

Nathan Mumm 50:32

They say that all the time. They say that's harming your body. Well, it's harming your body, yeah. Okay. It has not scientifically been proven to harm my body with Diet Coke versus water.

Mike Gorday 50:41

No, no.

Nathan Mumm 50:42

Anything in excess. Anything in excess is is horrible.

Mike Gorday 50:45

The person that says that is, you know, oh, you're gonna die from Diet Coke, drinking Diet Coke, and then they light up a cigarette.

Nathan Mumm 50:54

Well, there you go. I just wanted to say for all of us Diet Coke drinkers out there, congratulations.

Marc Grégoire 50:59

Let's move on to some real poison. A whiskey.

Nathan Mumm 51:03

Let's talk about the benefits of whiskey.

Mike Gorday 51:06

There you go.

Introduction 51:08

And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings. Let's see what bubbles to the top.

Marc Grégoire 51:16

All right. Did you have uh any thumbs down, Nathan? Yeah, I really don't like the shot glass. The shot glass. All right. I don't the shot glass would be a thumbs down.

Mike Gorday 51:27

I I had no thumbs down.

Marc Grégoire 51:29

You had no thumbs down.

Mike Gorday 51:30

They all they all I had difficulty deciding which I liked better, but I didn't have any.

Marc Grégoire 51:34

So I had two thumbs down and two thumbs up. Okay. Let's start off with your shot glass, which I had as a thumbs up. You had a thumbs up on it. Absolutely. That was that was debating between that was either first or second for me. Of course. I had a thumbs down.

Mike Gorday 51:46

Yeah, that's the first or second for me.

Marc Grégoire 51:48

That was chicken cock, small batch bourbon, a straight bourbon, $70, $100 proof. That was not a celebrity one. Okay. No. What was your next one you did not care? Or Mike, which one did you not was your lower one?

Mike Gorday 52:01

My lowest one was the uh uh what is this? The little beer glass.

Marc Grégoire 52:07

Or or the no, that's the flavor the Glenn Clarence. The Glenn. What did you think of the Glenn, Mike? Uh Nathan? I gave that a thumbs down also. You gave that one a thumbs down too. Alright. And that one I gave a thumbs down too. Okay. That was Oak Lore four-grain bourbon, which was uh bourbon that was double barreled. Four to six years old, 92 proof, $70. Nathan, your two thumbs down are the $70 ones. That kind of fits. Yeah. There you go. See? He instinctively knows which are the expensive ones. Now, this is where we have a split. Because I believe Mike liked what was in the rocks. Or no, Nathan liked the rock's glass best. I did. And Mike, you liked the water glass best. Yep.

Nathan Mumm 52:51

But I give these both, I give both of these thumbs up, though. So both get a thumbs up.

Marc Grégoire 52:55

Both get up. Yeah, they're both thumbs up. Let's talk about the rocks glass, because I gave that one a thumbs down. Uh oh. So that one is not moving forward. Okay. Is that the right thing? That was the celebrity whiskey. Okay. That was the uh that was the burrai. That was the burr.

Nathan Mumm 53:11

The burrae. Okay.

Marc Grégoire 53:12

That was the one from Bob Dylan. Heaven's Door Revelation. Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan.

Nathan Mumm 53:17

You're saying a no to Bob Dylan there, Mike. Burrai double five.

Marc Grégoire 53:23

50 bucks. It was the cheapest one on the list. I thought it was okay. And the winner that moves on. Dun da da in the water glass was First West small batch bourbon from 15 stars. It was a Kentucky Strait bourbon, five to seven years, 102 proof, $60.

Nathan Mumm 53:39

All right. I like this one though. This was okay. It wasn't. I like the smoother taste of the celebrity one.

Marc Grégoire 53:45

But yeah, the celebrity one, I give it a thumbs down because it tasted like grainy water to me. That's my review of it.

SPEAKER_10 53:51

Or Diet Coke.

Marc Grégoire 53:52

There you go. You got your water consumption.

Mike Gorday 53:54

I did. There you go. Poison water, right? Poison water. All right. All you need is to chase it with some Diet Coke, and you'll be you'll be golden. Alright. Well, thank you so much. I'm glad you helped us with that one, Mark.

Nathan Mumm 54:06

Well, I thank you, Nathan. Actually, I think this has a chance to probably win the whole thing. It was not that bad either. I just had to stick with my coin.

Marc Grégoire 54:16

Yeah, that's a Nathanism right there.

Mike Gorday 54:18

All right.

Marc Grégoire 54:18

Yeah, I go back to my thing. I did say there was gonna be at least one confident take that may not age well by the end of the episode. So there you go.

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