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279: TechTime Radio: Season 7 Finale, We Weigh Federal AI Rules, Laugh At Luxury “Human Washing Machines,” And Ask Why WAYMO Robotaxis Keep Failing, and our Final Gadget and Gear is "AirFly Pro 2" | Air Date: 12/16 - 12/15/25

• Nathan Mumm • Season 7 • Episode 279

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What happens when technology grows faster than the rules meant to guide it? We toast the season finale by tackling that question head-on—starting with a bold move to centralize AI regulation at the federal level and preempt state-by-state rules. We lay out what a single national framework could fix, what it could break, and how lobbying from the biggest AI players complicates the path forward. Uniform standards might speed innovation and reduce compliance chaos, but local expertise matters, and trust depends on safeguards that balance industry power with public interest.

Then we shift from policy to pavement. Waymo keeps making headlines for the wrong reasons: riders passing out in driverless cars, a recall tied to passing stopped school buses with flashing lights, and a bizarre three-car standoff that jammed a steep San Francisco street for nearly an hour. We unpack what these incidents reveal about human behavior in autonomous systems, the limits of remote intervention, and the public’s patience when “driverless” becomes neighborhood gridlock. Safety updates and voluntary recalls are essential, but accountability, transparency, and resilient design are how this technology earns the right to scale.

Not everything is caution tape and traffic cones. We spotlight the AirFly Pro 2 from Twelve South, a small Bluetooth transmitter that lets two people share audio from any 3.5 mm jack—perfect for flights, older TVs, and road trips. It’s simple, reliable, and exactly the kind of travel tech that quietly improves your day. We also marvel at a $380,000 “human washing machine”—part luxury, part lab experiment—hinting at future wellness and eldercare tech where biometrics and comfort meet. And we raise a glass to a standout Jack Daniel’s single barrel heritage barrel release, trading tasting notes on char, sweetness, and that long, confident finish.

Along the way we nod to Perl’s enduring place in internet history, reminding ourselves that the tools that last aren’t always the flashiest—they’re the ones that solve real problems again and again. As we wrap season seven, the through-line is clear: when tech outruns law, human behavior fills the void. The best builders anticipate that gap, and the best policy keeps pace without strangling the spark. If that balance excites you as much as it challenges you, you’re our kind of listener.

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Introduction:

Broadcasting across the nation from the East Coast to the West, keeping you up to date on technology while enjoying a little whiskey on the side with leading edge topics, along with special guests, to navigate technology in a segmented, stylized radio program. The information that will make you go, hmm. Pull up a seat, raise a glass with our hosts as we spend the next hour talking about technology for the common person. Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mum.

Nathan Mumm:

Welcome to Tech Time Radio, the show that makes you go, hmm, Technology News of the Week. Show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mum, your host and technologist with over 30 years of technology expertise. Our co-host Mike Roday is in the studio. He's the award-winning author and our human behavior expert. That's right. Human behavior expert.

Mike Gorday:

That's a yeah, how'd you how'd you get that nice title there, Mike? I went to school and got a master's degree and I work in the field and okay. I, you know, I I educate myself. Okay. Well, you know, did you ever go to Belford University? No. Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Well, we're live I wonder who did. Oh, we're live streaming during our show on six of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, Twitch.tv, Facebook, LinkedIn, and now kick and rumble. We encourage you to visit us online at techtimeradio.com and become a Patreon supporter at patreon.com forward slash techtime radio. We're friends with different backgrounds, but we bring the best technology show possible weekly for our family, friends, and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have Odie, our producer, at the control panel today. Welcome everyone. Let's start today's show.

Introduction:

Now on today's show.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, on the show today, we have our final gadget and gear segment, and this is our last show of the year. This ends season seven of the show. We will absolutely be back for season eight, and it will be airing on January 6th with our recap and prediction show. Who did the best in predicting the future? Who do you think so right now, Mike?

Mike Gorday:

Do we want to say Nathan because Nathan needs the validation?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, I don't I don't think actually Nathan's gonna win.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, it's probably gonna be me then.

Nathan Mumm:

That's right. In addition, we have our standard features, including Mike's mesmerizing a moment, our technology fail of the week, and a possible Nathan Nugget, and of course, our pick of the day whiskey tasting to see if our selected picks get zero, one, or two thumbs up by the end of the show. But now it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology.

Introduction:

Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, Mike. Story number one: President Trump has signed an executive order aimed to preventing states from enforcing their own AI regulations. All right, let's go to Lisa Walker for more on the story.

Speaker 1:

Announced in the Oval Office last week, Trump emphasized the need for a unified approval process, stating, We want to have one central source of approval. White House AI advisor David Sachs noted that the order will empower the administration to push back against the most burdensome state rules, while affirming support for regulations concerning children's safety. The move is seen as a victory for major technology firms advocating for nationwide AI legislation, as it could significantly influence America's position in the rapidly evolving industry. Should this be a state regulation or national regulation? What does everyone in the studio think about this?

Nathan Mumm:

Alright. So uh so Mike, what do you what do you think about this? Should this be state or should this be uh at the national level of regulation?

Mike Gorday:

Who knows? Okay. I mean, really, uh we we have is this on the on the heels of Australia's ban for social media?

Nathan Mumm:

So we don't have any regulations. And so California's made some regulations, uh, Oregon's made some regulations, I know Washington State has made regulations on what you're supposed to do ethically.

Mike Gorday:

I I think I I guess coming from that that over perspective that we all need to take AI seriously. We've got to s we have to slow the progress of how AI is being used, and we need to put regulations around it. And that sounds like it should be a federal thing.

Nathan Mumm:

There's been over a thousand bills that have been introduced at the state level, with thirty-eight states adopting about a hundred regulations all along. Now, the the question that I have is all these states have employed people to take care of the AI in each of their states. So that do they become federal employees then, or do they get replaced with just a federal law? Because each state is gonna know a little bit more about what goes on in their business. We have Microsoft here in Washington State, right? Pretty big company for AI. We have a bunch of other companies. California has, of course, open AI is in there with all of their ChatGPT stuff that's available. So I think like California, Oregon, Washington have probably been really aggressive at this. But if you go in Podunk, and I don't mean to be mean about this, but let's say like in the middle of like Arkansas? Well, in the middle of a uh middle America where they don't have technology at the forefront and they're probably more agricultural by nature, they probably don't have regulations that have been put in place for these types of items. So maybe it is better that a federal law comes into place versus the states.

Mike Gorday:

This boils down to states' rights versus federal rights. So I'm not in the political science realm at all. So neither are me commenting on this is really kind of obtuse.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay. All right, and this is uh if as we talk about this, this is very important because this is going to be probably as other nations have created laws and regulations, we are behind the times of other um countries that have put this together, so we need to come up with something. This is something that I'm in favor for. What I'm not in favor for is companies like OpenAI, Google, Meta Anthropic, all being able to be the voice and paying lobbyists, specifically a group called Net Choice, to express interest in the collaboration on a nationwide level.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, well, it that's isn't that how government runs?

Nathan Mumm:

It is it is how it runs, but I think there needs to be some safeguards that are in there. All open AI is a for-profit company, Google's a for-profit company, Mel is a for-com-profit company, Anthropic is also. All of these have a set goal in mind for them to control a space in the AI area, which I'm sure that they need to because they've been the early adopters of this. But I do think that and and so do other legal experts like Michael Goldier that says that we need to make sure that we have a unified approach with regulations that challenge both the large companies and people of the street type of deal.

Mike Gorday:

This still boils down to technology development outpacing legal processes. Yep. Right? So we are behind the we are way behind in the legal regulation field than like the the tech. So this is this is kind of like uh, I don't know if you know how they classify drugs, right, in in the federal law. Yeah. Uh like LSD specifically. LSD is a synthetic drug. So it's classified as illegal. Yeah. But all they have to do is take the formula for LSD, tweak it, and then it becomes a legal drug, or a I guess not a legal, but it it becomes a drug that is not classified either way because it's not the one that's classified in the as an illegal drug. So yeah, this this reminds me of the same type of stuff that we're dealing with now in technology, when the technology is outpacing the ability for us to keep up. That's and you hear me talk about this all the time because we are human beings and we're stupid.

Nathan Mumm:

We're stupid humans.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, we're stupid humans, and you know, we don't we don't we don't pay attention to the consequences of our actions and this is what these groups are doing. They're just they're just putting out all this stuff and continually adjusting it, and nobody can keep up with it.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay. I I am excited that we are addressing this. We probably should have addressed this five, six years ago, but uh you know, never never late to the party, I guess.

Mike Gorday:

Um one day we're gonna be late to the party. Yeah, and we'll be too late, right? You know, and if if science fiction movies have anything to say for it, it's not gonna be a good one. It's not, especially if you uh uh I watched Robocop again since we talked about last week. If you're in Detroit, you're in really big trouble.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, let's go to story number two, Mike.

Mike Gorday:

All right. Well, Waymo is in the news again, and we have a lot of Waymo stories this week.

Nathan Mumm:

We do, we have a couple more coming on up to uh in the show, that's correct.

Mike Gorday:

Yep. So Waymo is experiencing a problem that I don't think anybody really anticipated again because we're talking about how technology interferes or interacts with human behavior. Okay. Well, the problem here is that people are getting into a Waymo to go home and then they're passing out in the car. Okay. Self-driving tax is becoming more common in the city. Waymo is facing an unusual challenge. Passengers who fall asleep or pass out and don't exit the vehicle at their destination. Okay, all right. Waymo says his cars will not drive away until the riders leave. If a passenger remains unresponsive, interior cameras alert a human employee who reviews the situation. A customer service representative then attempts to contact the rider through the vehicle. If the person appears incapacitated and doesn't not respond, emergency services are then called. San Francisco Fire Department officials say these calls are becoming routine. A senior member of the department's command staff speaking anonymous anonymously said dispatchers now receive at least one call per night involving Waymo passengers who are asleep or intoxicated, typically in the early morning hours. Makes sense after the bars close at two o'clock, somebody gets into Waymo and boom. So firefighters have to respond by waking the passenger and helping them out of the vehicle. While a protocol can be life-saving in medical emergencies, officials say many cases involve riders who are just simply drunk and are tying up emergency services. That's not good. Waymo says safety remains as top I I love I love Way lines.

Segment:

Wait, Waymo.

Mike Gorday:

I love your company lines.

Nathan Mumm:

It's just so bad, but okay.

Mike Gorday:

Safety remains its top priority, and we're going to talk about that a little bit later. The companies continue to evaluate ways to reduce unnecessary, see it's all corporate BS. Transportation experts say the situation highlights a new reality of autonomous vehicles. Without a driver present, companies must design some symptoms to manage human behavior. Especially when passengers fail to respond.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, so you shouldn't see that. Yeah, that maybe that's what we should do. You turn it sideways and you just eject the passenger. You open the door, and if the passenger doesn't a little dump truck, you just throw them on out to the street.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, that that that would that might fix the problem. That would be that would be a YouTube sensation. Yeah, I wonder how many Waymo cars have to go in every day and get cleaned out. Oh, that just after after someone pukes in there.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, yeah. That oh there's got there has to be there is there a is there a a person just in charge of I'm sure there is.

Mike Gorday:

I don't know. That would be that would be funny. The details. What if they never clean them? Uh then that would be gross. So you got people in there who get sick and and see this are spreading. There has to be there has to be, because you know, that's an uber thing, right? Uh that is an uber thing, but that doesn't mean it has to be a Weibo thing. People picking up Uber Uber folks picking up drunk people and they vomit in the seeds. Just think of vomit.

Nathan Mumm:

Now moving on to story number three. If you had if you had vomit on you, guess what you could get? What? A human washing machine, which promises luxury cleaning for only $380,000. Yeah, that's an expensive bidet for the whole body. For most of us, most of us, staying fresh means hopping in the shower or soaking in a bath. Showers win on convenience, bath on relaxation. I I've only taken like six baths in my whole life. I I can't. Yeah, I know. You can smell it. Uh but now the ultra-wealthy have a futuristic new option. Japanese retailer Yamata, so it's not Yamada, it's Yamata uh Holdings, is preparing to launch the Mariah Human Washing Machine, a high-tech bathing pod priced nearly at 380,000. The device drew crowds at the Osaka Expo, a showcase in cutting edge innovations aimed at tackling global challenges. The demonstration unit was installed at a flagship store starting on Christmas Day. So it's going to be in their Tokyo flagship store. You step inside this 2.3 meter capsule, which uh it looks like a huge capsule that you as a person walk through.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, it looks like a little submarine.

Nathan Mumm:

Yep, the door seals. And then they have micro bubbles developed by the Japanese firm that are scientifically going to scrub away dirt without requiring any movement. Okay. In just 15 minutes, the machine washes and dries its occupants, all while monitoring your heart rate. So I guess you can't die in it while you're having it. So that's good to know. I don't know. Waymo does it all the time. Why not why not them? Marketing claims to go further, promised it doesn't even clean you, but it also cleans your soul. Okay, that that sounds like a Subaru commercial. Production are limited to only 50 units worldwide. The first has already been purchased by a hotel in Osaka, which plans to offer guests the chance to experience this extravagant blend of hygiene and high-tech pampering.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, yeah. It's just another word for hot tub.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, so let's talk about this. Why? So for 15 minutes. Why? So you go on in. It's a bath. It's a bath slash shower. Guess what? I can do this in 10 minutes. Do they have scrubbing bubbles? They have scrubbing bubbles. Scientifically, scientifically, micro bubbles that they have developed. What does that mean? Scrubbing bubbles. What does that mean? Is that these things float up and scrub you? Or are they just bubbles that you have because there's so much soap in this thing?

Mike Gorday:

I don't know. I don't I don't really understand why innovation comes down to little scrubbing bubbles. Remember those commercials about scrubbing bubbles? Yeah, the little what's what's the what's I can't even remember. It's a blue something commercial, right? I can't even remember the the product where they have the scrubbing bubbles and you always see them in the toilet.

Ody:

It's a cleaning product.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah. Yeah. Was it a toilet one?

Ody:

I thought it was from SC Johnson.

Mike Gorday:

Oh, yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

Whoa, look at you. I think you're right.

Mike Gorday:

Well, you know, we'll have to look that up because you know, scrubbing bubbles have been around for a long time, and you know, this just makes this hilarious. Well, you know what?

Nathan Mumm:

For the rich and famous, cleansing this just got a luxury upgrade. Okay, first of all, I cannot see sitting down in this thing. You're kind of sitting down and then you're gonna have water just blast at you all over everywhere.

Mike Gorday:

You know, warm water. This sounds like this sounds like something that you know the rich and famous would want just because nobody else has. It doesn't seem to be anyway. It's a bath. It's it's a bath with probably water jets. Yes.

Ody:

I don't even like a rainfall shower.

Nathan Mumm:

You don't like oh, really?

Ody:

I hate them. I think they're so stupid.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, you just want it to hit the if you're gonna take a shower, hit you quick, get you taken care of so you can be in and out in five minutes.

Ody:

Like, if I wanted to get wet that way, I would just go stand out in the rain. Why would I want that as well?

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, like if it wasn't having scrubbing bubbles. Ah in the chat, she got it. It's called scrubbing bubbles.

Mike Gorday:

I thought it used to be something else.

Ody:

John's there you guys go.

Mike Gorday:

It used to have a different name.

Ody:

No.

Mike Gorday:

Scrubbing bubbles was the whole the whole gimmick, but it wasn't scrubbing bubbles. Really? I think so. I don't know. I don't know. What do you call that?

Ody:

A Mandela, a button effect.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, it could be a Mandela effect. I could be operating under a bias.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, well, that ends our top technology.

Mike Gorday:

I need to go to I need to go take a bath in a pod for 15 minutes.

Nathan Mumm:

Moving on, we have Gwen with the will be joining us for our gadgets and gear segment. This is the last chance for you to get that gadget before the holiday seasons hits. Buckle up as we're driving 88 miles per hour into our next segment. See you after this break.

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Nathan Mumm:

Without any political agenda. With any political agenda. No, without. We verify the facts and we do it with a sense of humor in less than 60 minutes, of course. With a little whiskey on the side. Mark Gregoire, whiskey connoisseurs in studio. What do we have? And are we sipping today?

Marc Grégoire:

Scrubbing bubbles. No, I wouldn't bring that for you guys. Today we are bringing, and it's from Whiskey Chris. He sends this over to you to try. It's Jack Daniels, single barrel, heritage barrel, toasted barrel. A lot of barrels. A lot of barrels. They want to make sure they know it's in a barrel. Okay. So it's a single barrel. Yeah. So I mean, you know, it's a each bottling issue. It's not made. A little bit different. A little bit different. Heritage barrel. So this is an old barrel. Toasted barrel. It's an old barrel that's been burnt. So let's hear what Jack Daniels has to say about this. It says it's a unique barrel toasting you won't find in any other single barrel. This release celebrates the early craftsmanships of the Jack Daniel distillery. The heritage barrel expression of Jack Daniels' single barrel was crafted with a low temperature, heavy toasted barrel, which created a light but rich char full of deep flavor. A lower 100-proof entry point allows our grain bill to assert itself, creating a special Tennessee whiskey with notes of light baking spices, vanilla, and toasted oak with a long lingering finish. Aged to perfection at the top of one of the highest elevated barrel houses 1-09 on Coy Hill. What emerges is a flavorful and rich Tennessee whiskey.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, it tastes it tastes like burnt marshmallows. Oh wow, that's that's one of the best flavors. It's actually pretty good.

Nathan Mumm:

So it's a hundred proof. What's a Jack Daniels normally proof? Isn't it like uh eighty or ninety? A regular just Jack Daniels bottle. This is a Mark.

Marc Grégoire:

Mark is just stunned. Jack Daniels has probably about 20, 30 expressions. Which one are you talking about? They can range from eighty talking about black labeled cheese. Regular old old number seven? Old number seven. So what we just had that on the show a little bit ago.

Nathan Mumm:

You did the age one from your father's.

Marc Grégoire:

Yeah, that 'cause that was a higher proof. Yeah. That was a ninety something. I think the other ones are eighty six, I think. I think they I can tell the difference in the hundred proof. No, you can't. Yes, I can. But then we've had the the barrel proof on here, which goes up into the 130s. Yep. Yep. All over. Alright, so this is from Brown Foreman. It's from the Jack Daniel Distillery in Lynchburg, Tennessee. It's a Tennessee whiskey, of course, which is a bourbon. Seven years. 100 proof, 80% corn, 12 malt of barley, 8% rye. It is priced at $70. $70? And yeah, you can uh Costco carries it.

Mike Gorday:

It's not a it's not classified as a bourbon because it's a good thing. Guess what?

Nathan Mumm:

I have this for this is for our gift exchange, Mark.

Marc Grégoire:

Oh no, you asked the Nathan question. What was that? He made just like a silly statement. I did.

Nathan Mumm:

What was that?

Marc Grégoire:

He said it's not considered bourbon because you're because it's not made in Kentucky. And we've had how many bourbons on here made in Indiana? They can be made in there. As long as it's in the continental, or not continental, but in the U.S. Correct. It can be bourbon following other rules. That wasn't. I'm sorry.

Mike Gorday:

My humblest apologies for doing a Nathan statement.

Marc Grégoire:

And we've talked about Tennessee whiskey has all the rules of bourbon, plus the extra rule it has to be made in Tennessee and through what's called Charcoal.

Mike Gorday:

There we go. Yeah. There's a great song called Tennessee Whiskey.

Nathan Mumm:

All Tennessee. Can you sing that for us? No. People on the chat love to see you dance.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, you were the only person that answered that poll. Oh, I didn't. You made the poll and then you answered it. I didn't do that. You did it with the singing the song, too. Oh, okay. All right.

Marc Grégoire:

So for our subscribers and listeners and viewers, don't forget to like and subscribe and drink responsibly. Heaven can we.

Nathan Mumm:

This is in the Nathan Mum gift exchange for the family. This bottle right here. This bottle? This bottle? Yep. I got it. It's a $50 price point, and I grabbed it, so we'll see who likes it. You sure it's this exact one? Exactly from. Exactly from Costco. Is it the Costco one that was there?

Marc Grégoire:

Well, Costco says a lot of jacked down.

Nathan Mumm:

I think it's exactly the same one. It's not the same one. I think it is.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, pull it out the bottle later. I'm gonna pull it out. I'm going to Costco later. I'll look. Yeah, okay. With our whiskey tasting completed, Costco needs to be a sponsor of the show. I need to get out of here. Are you listening, Costco?

Nathan Mumm:

Let's move on to our feature segment. Today we have Gwen Way joining the show. She is an expert in cybersecurity deer in the day and a game board geek in the evening and the producer of Tech Time Radio. And of course, our gadgets and gear gal. Let's get ready for our Comcast video stream and see this now.

Introduction:

What's new in our gadgets and gear?

Nathan Mumm:

All right, Gwen, welcome to the show.

Gwen Way:

Thank you. Happy to be here as always.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. So let me ask a couple questions for you. First off, it's the holiday season, right? So we're all excited for the holidays that are coming here. Have you gotten your Kickstarter chair yet that I invested in and I think you invested in? Have you heard from them yet? No.

Gwen Way:

I have not yet. Have you heard anything back?

Nathan Mumm:

No, and I've reached out to them. So I am worried that that $200 is gonna have to be a refund on my credit card. I don't know if they're gonna be getting me that that item here. So again. So it was that it was the universal like transformer chair that you that you could have.

Gwen Way:

It would fold out and you could sit on it. Oh, that's right.

Nathan Mumm:

It had the little yeah, okay. And the Kickstarter uh deals have have kicked up pretty pretty aggressively. Well, I hope I uh hopefully it comes here soon or later, or we will get the I don't think so either. All right, well, tell us a little bit about yourself to any of the new listeners turning into our program.

Gwen Way:

Certainly. Well, as you well know, Nathan, uh I've spent the last quarter of a century. I'm I've decided to embrace that. Uh the last quarter of a century uh in technology, doing everything from supporting software all the way up to now encouraging people to be a little more secure.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. See, I I I you have a birthday coming up here soon, too.

Gwen Way:

I do. I I so do you.

Nathan Mumm:

I know. We both have the same month. So that's uh makes it easy to remember. So you know what? We're as we're getting older in this, I I keep on looking like 20 years, 25 years, 30 years in technology. I'm like, oh, geez. All right. Okay, well, what are we looking at today on the show? Because this is uh my wife is absolutely gonna be ecstatic to hear about this, and probably many other people. It's available and it's not a Kickstarter. What are we looking at today?

Gwen Way:

Well, this kind of dovetails into our gadget from last month, which was, if you remember correctly, the Raycon Earfuds. Yeah, still one of my favorites. And then I was thinking about it, and you know, holidays bring a lot of travel. People have kids, they're fighting over who gets the headphones, who gets to watch the movie. Or for those people who don't have kids, maybe they're traveling together and they want to watch a movie together on an airplane. There's a quick and easy way to do that where you can actually share the sound, and that is today's gadget. Uh it's called the Airfly Pro. Uh specifically, I'm I'm leaning towards the Airfly Pro 2, which allows you to plug an auxiliary cord into a device and connect to it using Bluetooth headphones, and you can have two headphones connected to the same device.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, so this is the key, because I have one of these. My uh my wife has one of these. We have like an Airflow version one or or another uh knockup of these type videos. So we don't have the ability to have us watch the same movie, um, which may be a good thing, because I don't know if we watch the same type of movies. I got the blood and gust, and she's got the Hallmark channel on. But uh but besides that, this would have you be able to watch in any output device two people watching the same thing. Is that correct?

Gwen Way:

Exactly. You plug it in, you're able to connect your headphones. Uh you can watch the same iPad. As long as it has an auxiliary jack, you're good to go.

Mike Gorday:

This is the fancy way of doing it in the old school where you just plug in the earphones and give one. The splitter. Yeah, you remember that? One to your significant.

Nathan Mumm:

And then you only hear it in the monotone. You hear half. And then if it's in the if it's a stereo movie uh and they have the tracks uh left and right with music, then when you hear music on one side and you hear the dialogue on the other side, it's you don't get to see the same movie twice.

Gwen Way:

Somebody gets the dialogue and somebody else gets the soundtrack. Yeah. Yeah. This takes that out of the equation. Perfect. Um, and in fact, if you go, I I don't know how many of our listeners travel internationally. I believe there's probably a fair number, but if you go with the deluxe version of the Airfly Pro 2, uh you actually get the adapter so you can plug into the European devices as well.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, look at that. Okay. Well, now make more money for that. Now, where can we find where let's talk about pricing, right? So it's important on the pricing. Let's talk about where what's the pricing point? Where can we find this online? Is it available on Amazon or just their website? Tell us the information and details.

Gwen Way:

You can definitely go to Amazon. I always recommend going to the company directly. Uh, it it's good for the economy. It also gives you a little bit more control over the quality of things and a little bit more recourse. Uh, the company that actually develops these is called 12 South. Uh so if you go to T W E L V E S O U T H dot com, you'll be able to find this. They also have a lot of other products, but the Airfly Pro 2 is definitely the one that I'm recommending. If you get just the regular Airfly Pro 2, it is currently $59.99. And they've got a really pretty green color for those who don't want just black and white. Okay. Or you can get the deluxe, which is only available in the black and white and is $69.99. But as I said, it get it has that international adapter if anybody's doing it.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, you need to do it. We should be calling it the Airflow 2 Plus. Plus plus. Yeah. No, just plus plus.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, pluses are going. Pluses are going away. There's no Disney Plus as soon as we like the Disney. I think I predicted that. You did. I think you did too. Yeah. All right. So we got the 12south.com. Again, that's just 12south spelled out.com products, the Airfly Pro 2. It is, I probably get the European version. It's talking under 70 bucks at 69 bucks.

Gwen Way:

Exactly. It's worth it. Um, I I can tell you my my family hasn't started listening to the show yet and won't hear this one until I'm already down visiting them for Christmas.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Gwen Way:

So I can say that I got this for my parents, for my brother and sister-in-law. We're probably going to pick some up for my husband's family as well. It just makes life easier when traveling.

Nathan Mumm:

It does. That's all right. All right. So the final question though, do you have one of these units?

Gwen Way:

I do. I do indeed.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay. Anyway, I bet you the mum family will have some in time for Christmas too. That's okay.

Mike Gorday:

Be careful if you're in a Waymo.

Nathan Mumm:

Wow. Okay. All right, Gwen. Um this is a great gadget. So we're going to start off the new year again. I think we should probably go back to Kickstarter stuff at the beginning of the year. That way, people that order it can maybe get it before the end of the year. Uh type of deal.

Gwen Way:

Exactly. Exactly.

Nathan Mumm:

Uh I wish you and your families the best of holiday travels, as now you're going to have at least the air f uh airfly two with you so you guys can watch the same movies. What movie are you guys going to be watching when you guys travel down? Let me ask you that.

Gwen Way:

It's a tradition. We always watch Elf on the flight down to Arizona.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, that's that's a fantastic movie. Not as good as my favorite now, which is Spirited version, but what Gremlins? You like Gremlins? Oh, yeah.

Gwen Way:

Gremlins is good too.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, so classic movies. Is Die Hard a Christmas movie though? Yeah. Okay, absolutely. Let me ask you this. So why does everybody say Die Hard's a Christmas movie when Die Hard 2 should also be classified as a Christmas movie?

Mike Gorday:

Because no one likes Die Hard 2. What? What?

Nathan Mumm:

That's the plane one. What are you talking about? The wife's on the cross.

Gwen Way:

I think that's exactly why no one likes it. Nobody wants to be trapped on a plane.

Nathan Mumm:

It's the least, it's the least one that people like. So we okay, so the first one's a Christmas movie and the second one just doesn't exist. Yeah.

Mike Gorday:

Die Hard 2 is Die Hard 2 is to Die Hard series as the prequel is to Star Wars.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay. All right. Well, Gwen, thank you so much for being a part of our show. We can't wait to see you next year. Sounds good.

Gwen Way:

Happy holidays.

Nathan Mumm:

Happy holidays. All right. Well, that ends our segment. We want to thank Gwen for being a part of the show. She does a great job finding the most unique items each month. And I can't wait to see what she has planned for next year. Now let's move on, though, to Mike's mesmerizing moment.

Segment:

Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment. What does Mike have to say today?

Nathan Mumm:

All right, Mike, this is the holidays and then a trip to the airport. I'm going to put you on the spot. Here's the choices that you have. You have three ways to get to the airport. You can either use one, a Waymo, two, a taxi, or three, a ride share to get you on your trip. Now, of course, you're going to be flying with the new Airbuds, right? Because that way it's they have the Bluetooth capabilities of sharing. Okay. Which one of the ways are you getting to the airport? I'm going to not go to the airport. You're not going to not go to the airport? Yeah.

Mike Gorday:

You're just not going to travel. I'm not going to travel.

Nathan Mumm:

You only get these three. You got Waymo, Taxi, or Right Sherry.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, what I don't know why you asked these questions, but what do you think I would do? You think I would take a Waymo? No. Why why not? Why not a Waymo? Uh are you serious?

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, I'm just kind of curious.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, we're freaking to talk about that. Okay. So we'll we'll we'll reveal why that's a problem. Okay, all right. Okay. How about a taxi? Nope. Why not a taxi? Because I you don't like taxis? I don't care for taxis.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay. Well, well, all right. Well, how about a ride share?

Mike Gorday:

You know, if I had to choose, it would probably be the rideshare. Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Is it gonna be Lyft or is it gonna be Uber or do you have a preference or does it?

Mike Gorday:

No, I don't I don't so I don't use any of these services, so I don't have any any comparison. How would you get to the airport then? Uh I wouldn't go. I would just call my friends.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, that would be my ride share. Oh, you say, hey, can you drop me off at the airport?

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, can you take me to the airport? They would be like, Yeah, sure. Or I could just go in my own car and park in the in the extended lot. Oh, okay. All right, so you're not you know, because you know, I travel that much. So okay, all right. Odie, Odie's, Odie's like, yeah, she's probably wondering why you're asking these dumb questions.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, Odie, if you had the chance between Waymo, taxi, or rideshare, what would you take?

Ody:

I would take the light rail and screw all of that. But on my way to the light rail, I'd probably take an Uber or have a family member.

Nathan Mumm:

I'd take a Waymo, man. No, I would take the Waymo.

Ody:

I wouldn't take the Waymo. I don't trust them. Really? And we have so many, what do you call that? Um evidence? No, transport drivers here, you know, like transplant drivers.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Ody:

I I don't trust them and I don't trust the robot together. Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

So you just say so so you would walk.

Ody:

I'd rather take like the e-bike or the e-scooter.

Nathan Mumm:

The e-scooter that we have available. All right. Okay, well, Mike, thanks for that mesmerizing moment.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, that was really mesmerizing.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, you know, like you know what?

Mike Gorday:

That just really taps into my knowledge base of humanity. Well, I was hoping that you would explain what was beneficial as an individual for Waymo and taxi and rideshare, but how how could I? We we already discussed Waymo. Waymo is gonna come up a lot today.

Nathan Mumm:

It is gonna come. We still have a couple more stories.

Mike Gorday:

There's several reasons why Waymo is not a not a good option for me. Or anybody. But taxi services have been around quite a long time. The light rail I didn't even think about. Yeah. There you go. See, we have the light rail.

Ody:

You'd have to drive from here to but where am I flying?

Mike Gorday:

Am I going to am I flying out of CTAC or am I flying out of Everett? Well, it's uh you could have chosen whatever one. Oh, I fly out of Everett all the time. Well, I could. It's convenient.

Nathan Mumm:

It is so nice. You go there, it's like it's quick, it's easy. You're in and out in like five minutes to get through security. It is like the best. And it's like white glove service there. And it costs like an extra hundred bucks, too. So you're paying for the white glove service. Yeah. But you know what?

Mike Gorday:

If it's a company I'm paying for it, there you go.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Well, you know what?

Mike Gorday:

So that that was really mesmerizing. Thanks for that question.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, thanks, Mike, for that mesmerizing.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, what would you well you would take away a mode just so you say you could.

Nathan Mumm:

I would, absolutely, and I videotaped the whole thing hoping that I can make millions of dollars. All right. Okay.

Mike Gorday:

Uh thanks for that. That'd be, you know, like starting up a paper mill. That's right. Uh that's a great idea.

Ody:

You know, it's such a shame those things aren't foolproof. Because I totally would. I wouldn't have to talk to anybody. I could just lollygag in the back, not have to worry about, like, oh, is this person gonna abduct me?

Mike Gorday:

I know. It's just way more robot. Yeah, we have we have concept and we have reality. The problem is always that concept never meets reality. You know, because humans always figure out a way to F it up exactly, or you know, there's programming.

Ody:

The idea sounds great.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, is awesome. Ever all the technology we talk about is awesome. Ideas are awesome. Yeah, but what they get used for, not so awesome.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Well, thank you for that mesmerizing moment. Yeah, that was mesmerizing. All right, up next we have this weekend. Scrubbing buzz. So that would be a great time to enjoy a little whiskey on the side as we will be doing so during the break. You're listening to Tech Time Radio. See you in a few minutes. Hey Mike. Yeah, what's up? Hey, so you know what? We need people to start liking our uh social media pages.

Mike Gorday:

If you like our show, if you really like us, we could use your support on patreon.com. Or is it Patreon? I think it's Patreon. Okay, Patreon. If you really like us, you can can you say I English guy? Patreon.com. I I butcher the English language? You know you butcher the English language.

Nathan Mumm:

So it's political.

Mike Gorday:

It's patreon.com. Patreon.com. If you really like if you really like our show, you can subscribe to Patreon.com and help us out. Oh, and you can visit us on that Facebook platform. You know the one that Zuckerberg owns? The one that we always bag on?

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, you can we're on Facebook too. Yeah, like us on Facebook. Do you know what our Facebook page is? Tech Time Radio. At Tech Time Radio. You know what?

Mike Gorday:

There's a trend here. It seems to be that there's a trend, and that's Tech Time Radio. Or you can even Instagram with us. And that's at Tech Time Radio.

Nathan Mumm:

That's at Tech Time Radio. Or you can find us on TikTok. And it's Tech Time Radio. It's at Tech Time Radio.

Mike Gorday:

Like and subscribe to our social media.

Segment:

Like us today. We need you to like us.

Mike Gorday:

Like us and subscribe. That's it.

Segment:

That's it. That's that simple. And now, let's look back at this week in technology.

Nathan Mumm:

Alright, we go back to December 18th, 1987. Pearl, the programming language, is always appropriate. Now we're gonna go all the way fast forward into 1991 when the O'Reilly book called Programming Pearl was released. It was become known as the Camel book among Pearl programmers, and the Camel became the unofficial logo of the Pearl Programming Language. Larry Wall released his version 1.0 of Pearl to the general purpose programming language, very commonly used as a Unix scripting language. Pearl becomes very popular in the early World Wide Web, commonly being used to programs for CGI scripts and web applications. Pearl's flexibility and adaptability continues to make it a widely used programming language even to today. That was this week in Technology. Have you ever wanted to watch some Tech Time history? With over 270 plus weekly broadcasts spanning our four plus years of video, podcasts, and blog information, you can visit us at techtime radio.com to watch our older shows. We're going to take a commercial break, but when we return, we have the Mark Mumble whiskey review. See you after this.

Mike Gorday:

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Segment:

The segment we've been waiting all week for.

Marc Grégoire:

Bam. Boom, boom, bam. Boom. What are we celebrating today?

Mike Gorday:

Alright, whatever. Nathan.

Ody:

A little drummer boy?

unknown:

Oh no.

Ody:

Well, sorry, you just went boom boom bam, I assume.

Mike Gorday:

That was his uh representation of old guy sounds.

Marc Grégoire:

Of the four of us, I think Nathan's the only one really celebrating today.

Nathan Mumm:

It must be good looking guy day.

Mike Gorday:

No. No. Definitely not.

Nathan Mumm:

It must be.

Mike Gorday:

I don't know how you celebrate that, but you know. Good looking guy? Don't you look in the mirror every morning and say, darn, I'm good looking. No. Stuart Smalley and narcissists do that. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, oops. All right.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, I have no idea. What do we have to do?

Marc Grégoire:

Look around here. Yeah? You'll know what we are celebrating. We are celebrating Technology Collectible Day. Stupid toy day.

Nathan Mumm:

There's no stupid toy day. Toy Day would be a fantastic. Stupid toy.

Mike Gorday:

That sounds like one of my quotes.

Nathan Mumm:

Whoa.

Marc Grégoire:

Stupid toy day has arrived, reminding us that humanity once invested deeply in Furby drama, Beanie Baby Economics. Oh, yeah. The mysterious life cycle of a Tamagotchi. And what the heck is a pet rock? Where's the yard dart?

Ody:

What about the la boo boo?

Nathan Mumm:

What about this baseball car is not a toy though?

Marc Grégoire:

These toys make absolutely no sense today. A lot of kids protected them with the intensity of a secret service detail. So climb into the attic or Nathan, just look around this room, dust off that ridiculous childhood treasure, and celebrate the glorious stupid things that once made life perfect for you.

Nathan Mumm:

You know what? Look at that. I I as I'm looking around, I see a Star Trek Enterprise up there. I see some Star Wars toys. I got some new Transformers collectibles from the Gen 1 movie that was that that is here. You know, I got a Star Wars Lego A-wing device here. I mean, look uh isn't this just beautiful? For a Mark, no. No.

Marc Grégoire:

For nerds, absolutely. Yeah, there you go. Tell us more, Mark. So so Nathan, a stupid toy is fun for five seconds and not worth your time. The Jack Daniels single barrel heritage barrel toast barrel is a stupid toy. It is enjoyable for a long while and absolutely worth your time. Jack Daniels Heritage Barrel takes the whole toasted barrel craze and basically tells everyone else they are not trying hard enough. They toasted these barrels twice as long as usual before giving them a quick char, building a ridiculously thick layer of caramelized oak. Then they fill them at the lower entry proof, only 100, which is rare these days. Why? Because lower proof pulls more of those sweet wood sugars and deeper flavors straight into the whiskey. The result is a high toast, low char, low entry proof combo that delivers richer oak, sweeter notes, and far more depth than your average toasted barrel gimmick. I will admit my first few sips had me wondering exactly what Jack was trying to do here. But after spending some time with it, the whole thing opened up beautifully. While starting off feeling a little uncertain, had grown into something surprisingly layered, balanced, and generally enjoyable. Mike would claim that the whiskey simply needed time away from Nathan to improve.

Nathan Mumm:

Wow. Wow, time away from me. Well, I I do like this though. This is uh liquid courage that gets you through the holidays. So there you go. We have a little Jack Daniels here to get us through that. That doesn't mean anything. Okay, well, you know what? Wow. Whiskey and technology, such a great pairing. Just like a little bit of mistletoe and elf on the shelf. The mission to make your holidays more exciting. Do you have an elf on the shelf? Uh I do not. We do not. Our kids grew up kind of before that became the hot item. But my wife, who owns a preschool, absolutely knows all about elf on the shelf. And I'll tell you, TikTok videos of Elf on the Shelf are pretty freaking entertaining late at night scrolling through those.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, well, I don't I don't use an elf on the shelf. I have an alien in the ventilation chef. Is that is that what you have?

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah.

Mike Gorday:

Is that is that an alternate to that?

Nathan Mumm:

That's right. Okay. All right. Well, you know what? Now let's prepare for our technology fail of the week brought to you by Elite Executive Services.

Segment:

Congratulations. You're a failure. Oh, I failed. Did I? Yes. Did I? Yes. Alright, this week a technology failure comes to us from Waymo.

Nathan Mumm:

Yet again, it seems that they are now recalling 3,067 vehicles due to a software issue that led to multiple incidences in which the autonomous car drove past a school bus with its warning lights on. So that you know how a school bus pulls up, they put out the Yeah, they basically run the stop sign.

Mike Gorday:

With kids walking across the street.

Nathan Mumm:

That's right. Because you know what? Kids aren't important.

Mike Gorday:

Well, the recall involves now now you now see that's just one reason why it wouldn't take a Waymo to the airport. That's right.

Nathan Mumm:

The recall involves specific fifth generation automated driving system, according to a November 8th notice from the National Highway of Traffic Safety Administration. But listen to what happens here. The software could make the vehicle past a stop school bus, even when the red lights are flashing. Or if the stop arm is extended, raising the risk of a crash with a pedestrian, the agency warned. The software recall does not put the vehicles out of service, but is voluntarily and led by Waymo. So this is what happens. They get in trouble for something. The National Traffic Safety Administration says you have an issue and they voluntarily recall.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, this is one of my problems with some of this stuff I was talking about earlier. They put these things on the road to test them out without having thought about these things. Something bad happens, and everybody gets just, oh, we need to review the software updates or we need to do some reprogramming. They don't think, oh well.

Nathan Mumm:

So it's it's interesting. So because this is so new, there isn't law or legislation that's uh put in place, so so nothing happens. Really exactly they get in trouble, they issue a press release that says, oops, sorry, we'll we'll take care of it. And it's very interesting. Continuing on on this technology fail, continuing just this week, we also had a standoff in San Francisco between three Waymo vehicles that shut down traffic on a steep street for more than 45 minutes.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, two of them ran into each other.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, so two of them crashed into each other.

Marc Grégoire:

Do you have the background on that? I'm very curious. How did they crash into each other? They have all these sensors and everything. How did that even happen?

Nathan Mumm:

So what they said is there was a blind spot. No, no, no. No. So the aspect of it was there's a blind spot. And when the Waymo makes contact with anything, it goes into like this disaster mode with a sensory above it. It goes like this big siren and this big circular item that is there that says, Hey, we we it thought it was in an accident. And so then the other Waymo that it hit also said, Hey, we're in an accident, so we stopped until we have things taken care of. So you have these two things hit each other, both thinking that they're now in accident mode.

Marc Grégoire:

Well, if they hit each other, they are in accident mode. Well, they just tapped each other, they just bash each other, they just tapped each other. How did they even tap each other?

Nathan Mumm:

A blind spot. That's it was it was said a blind spot was noted in the spot.

Marc Grégoire:

All these whirling, twirling cameras all around, and there's still a blind spot?

Nathan Mumm:

Blind spot is what has been said there.

Mike Gorday:

I feel like you should be saying, say what?

Speaker 3:

Right.

Mike Gorday:

And then a third one came along and observed.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, so the third one was going down the street, realizing that these two waimals were in the middle of the street, and so it decided that it wouldn't proceed on. So now you have three vehicles with the alarms all saying that we have an issue that needs to be taken care of, and it just stops. No one can get into these vehicles, nobody can do now. This was in a residential area, and there's people that need to get out to work, need to get out to store.

Ody:

There was a FedEx truck behind them.

Nathan Mumm:

FedEx truck behind them. I mean, there's tons.

Mike Gorday:

See, I feel I feel like we should have the right to uh bash these cars off the road if if n if necessary, you know. That's I don't know. That's just my ro road rage. Okay.

Ody:

No, believe me, Mike, if it wasn't like a big thing to just hit somebody with my car, I would do that. I would do that.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, we're revealing dark secrets of Odie today on the show.

Nathan Mumm:

So it's interesting that it this prevented human drivers from getting out of their house in their parking garage area that they had and actually being able to go to work.

Marc Grégoire:

So it might have it might have saved a lot of other accidents and crashes then. Because it kept the humans off the road.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, that's right. The third vehicle faced each other. After 45 minutes, the cars were remotely controlled from a headquarters and could continue operations. So when this happens, then they get an alert at headquarters. Somebody takes over, kind of like an RC car type of deal, and they get to drive the unit themselves out of way. So they took it off.

Mike Gorday:

No, no, they don't use they don't use remote things, they tell the car that it's not an accident, and then the car navigates itself away from the city.

Ody:

No, they suggest uh they make suggestions to the vehicle.

Mike Gorday:

Correct, correct.

Nathan Mumm:

But they do have the ability to totally take over.

Mike Gorday:

You should stop kissing your buddy here and back up.

Nathan Mumm:

But they do have the ability, if they needed to, to take control of the cars.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, it took it took an almost an hour to to get this straightened out. Uh, there you go. So what and then there was the we didn't talk about this, but there was the one about the guy who was videotaping his Waymo experience and it almost got erased.

Ody:

Literally 30 seconds into the video.

Mike Gorday:

It ripped out in the traffic and almost got nailed by a human driver who stopped.

Nathan Mumm:

And and prevented the actual incident.

Mike Gorday:

Talk about Mike's favor with the woman that gave birth in the Waymo.

Nathan Mumm:

There's so many Waymo stories. We could do just a Waymo.

Mike Gorday:

So, and you have the gall to ask me if I would take away. But the way the one that gave the birth, I love that one.

Marc Grégoire:

Okay, why'd you like that? That's happened before. It's a magic trick. One goes in, two comes out.

Nathan Mumm:

Do you have to pay for the additional passenger? Yeah.

Mike Gorday:

That sounds like a double payment.

Nathan Mumm:

Do they clean that up afterwards?

Mike Gorday:

That goes that goes to that poor guy that cleans out the Waymo's after every morning. All right.

Marc Grégoire:

Well, it's still better than 90-year-old grandpa who gets in an accident time and time again, and nothing ever gets done either.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't know. I don't know if it's at least.

Mike Gorday:

Well, maybe that's what we should be doing is sticking our old people in Waymo's. Is that what we should be doing?

Ody:

It'd give them a heart attack.

Mike Gorday:

One day, one day, if somebody forces me into a Waymo, I'm going to hit you with my cane.

Nathan Mumm:

Only the capsule, uh, only the capsule uh shower slash uh bathtub tracks your heart movements.

Mike Gorday:

You know, does that I have an award-winning idea right now? What's that? We should put these things in Waymo's, then you can take baths while you're driving around.

unknown:

Wow.

Marc Grégoire:

I'd never leave a Waymo.

Mike Gorday:

All right, you know what?

Nathan Mumm:

Odie, Odie, take back control here. Here's what we got. We have a winner for our secret sound. They won $50. Let's get ready to listen to our actual winner.

Speaker 7:

To Nathan and the Tech Time radio crew. The secret sound of the week, I believe, is pachinko. Pachinko.

Nathan Mumm:

That was the secret sound. Our caller called on in and they put a voice recording. $50 has been rewarded. The secret sound has restarted back over again in now, Odie. Let's see what we got.

Marc Grégoire:

Sounds like Nathan's stumbling around this room with all the toys.

Mike Gorday:

That's the first thing that I thought of was Nathan stumbling. No.

Marc Grégoire:

It's not drunk Nathan.

Mike Gorday:

It's not drunk Nathan.

Nathan Mumm:

That was my first guess. You're gonna have to come up with something. Odie's like, oh, she thinks she's got it. Do you think you got it? I'm sure you don't.

Ody:

Well, I was gonna say somebody folding origami.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh. Well, that's you just ruined it forever. What kind of that? But that's a good guess. That is a very good guess. Origami spark.

Marc Grégoire:

There you go. Mark, do you have a guess? Either that or you're in the restroom.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we guessed already.

Marc Grégoire:

That's Nathan. All right, okay.

Mike Gorday:

There you go.

Nathan Mumm:

Nathan shuffling himself. None of those are at. We are starting back at $5. So as the pot grows each week, you have an opportunity to listen to the sound. All right. Now we're going to move on, though, to our Nathan Nugget.

Introduction:

This is your nugget of the week.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Twas three weeks before Christmas and in the prison yard. A drone dropped a package that was found by a guard with steak, weed, and crab legs and cigarettes for days, and two a season to all and a tin of Old Bay. All right. So that's what we got. Talk about this. We have correctional facilities, South Carolina Departments of Corrections, is having a problem with contraband that is making it into their prison. Um I don't I don't think this is exclusively a South Carolina program. That's probably not it. This is a bunch of drones that are dropping items for prisoners and felons that are behind bars so that they can get different gear. Just think of this. So it's kind of like a package from heaven that comes on in and zooms around the yard, it drops it. And what they're doing now is they are creating legislation that this becomes a misdemeanor crime that carries up to 30 days in jail for dropping contraband into prison.

Mike Gorday:

Can you find out who dropped a package using a drone?

Nathan Mumm:

No, no, if you use a cheap enough drone, one you find on Timu with Chinese uh tracking on it.

Mike Gorday:

I don't know if the drone from Timu half that much. They can.

Nathan Mumm:

But if you get something there that's just really disposable, there's no tracking, there's no serial numbers associated with these drones. You just fly it up over the area, you have a package in there, much better than Amazon's drone delivery service, and you just drop it into the prison yard and boom.

Mike Gorday:

I have all these old school solutions to this, I think that we should explore. What's that? Shotguns. Shotguns. Yeah, you see a drone flying over, you shotgun it. Oh, there you go. Okay. Well, like duck hunt.

Nathan Mumm:

There you go. Like the video game. All right. Speaking of toy day, let's move on to our pick of the day, whiskey tastings. Stupid toy day.

Introduction:

And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings. Let's see what bubbles to the top.

Marc Grégoire:

We have Jack Daniel single barrel, heritage barrel, toasted barrel. It's seven years old, 100 proof, roughly $70. Unless you get it from Costco, then it's a little bit less expensive. What do you think?

Nathan Mumm:

Absolute thumbs up.

Marc Grégoire:

Wow. Just like that.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, I like almost every alcohol, especially during the holidays. Oh, yeah.

Mike Gorday:

The more the better. You know, I really like the finish on this. But I don't like the initial initial taste. Yeah, I don't like the initial taste. It it's it's kind of harsh on my palate. So I'm gonna give it a thumbs down.

Ody:

Are you ending the year in disagreement?

Mike Gorday:

Uh we are. You want me to agree with him? No.

Ody:

No, thumbs down. I'm just surprised.

Mike Gorday:

Why?

Ody:

Because it's the end of the year, it's our last episode. The last hurrah.

Marc Grégoire:

Oh, okay. All right, thumbs up. I thought Mike was gonna give this one a thumbs up, but Nathan is.

Ody:

Wow, you hurt Mike.

Marc Grégoire:

I was I was wrong on you guys because I it's so char and woody. It's really good after the initial the initial taste. It's really good.

Mike Gorday:

All right. Well there's something, there's something in that there's something in that initial taste.

Marc Grégoire:

So initially, like Mike, I did not care for it. Whiskey Cris brought it over. We had some, he loved it. I was like, ooh, I don't know about this. And then it just kind of grew and grew and grew on me. I am enjoying it now.

Mike Gorday:

I don't know about it. I mean, it's good.

Nathan Mumm:

It's okay to put a thumbs down.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, I know. I'm I'm not the one that needs to put thumbs up just because I don't know what I'm doing.

Nathan Mumm:

You know what? I do thumbs up on almost 99% of all.

Marc Grégoire:

I know if it just says are you gonna be happy with my Christmas present? I got whistle pig and Canadian mix for your phones. Clean those out.

Nathan Mumm:

Those are two of his favorites. You know what? I got I got the worst than that. I have the Trader Joe's Kentucky. Before you go, you want to take Kentucky's best up there.

Marc Grégoire:

Let's sign off for the show. Let's say goodbye for the year.

Nathan Mumm:

For all of us at Tech Time, it was an honor to be the host of today's show and the show throughout the year, 2025. What a year of AI and technology in different aspects. I want to thank all of us here in the studio. Mike, thank you for being a part of the show. Mark, Odie, you guys make this show enjoyable each and every week. Now remember, the science of tomorrow starts with the technology of today.

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See you next week.

Nathan Mumm:

Later, later. Bye-bye.

Introduction:

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