TechTime with Nathan Mumm

278: TechTime Radio: Identity Rental Schemes, AI Book Controversies, Teen Social Bans, Chatbot Safety Failures, Streaming Deals, "SAY WHAT" Oddball Tech Stories, and Our Whiskey Competition Crowns a Winner | Air Date: 12/9 - 12/15/25

Nathan Mumm Season 7 Episode 278

This week on TechTime Radio, a state-backed cyber scheme hiding in plain sight. That’s where we start: identity rental, deepfaked interviews, and remote tooling that let North Korean operators slip into real jobs at real companies. We unpack how recruiters lure engineers, what data they demand, and the quiet ways compromised devices become corporate backdoors. Then we get practical—clear verification steps for HR, device attestation, network controls, and a tighter handshake between hiring and security teams.

From the office to the bookstore, we shift to the uneasy rise of AI-written titles and the complicated dance between reader demand, author craft, and copyright risk. We talk labels, discovery, and the thin line between helpful tools and hollow literature. Policy heats up as Australia forces a sweeping under-16 social media lockout. We parse the benefits, the whiplash, and the risk of driving teens to unmoderated spaces, and outline smarter safeguards like verified age gates, default privacy, and digital literacy.

Then comes the jaw-dropper: researchers discover that stylized poetry can jailbreak safety systems across multiple chatbots. We explore why “style attacks” work, where current guardrails fail, and how to harden models with adversarial training, independent moderation, and server-side checks. Entertainment gets its own tremor as a rumored Netflix–Warner Bros.–HBO deal sparks questions about catalog control, competition, and what it means for your monthly subscriptions. And yes, we leave room for levity: the London velodrome’s accidental “sound effect,” a raccoon’s ill-fated whiskey tasting, and a cautionary tale of an AI agent that wiped a developer’s entire drive without a confirmation.

We close with our whiskey finals—WhistlePig PiggyBack Bourbon versus Bakta 1928 Rye—and crown a champion after a tight, flavor-first showdown. If you enjoy sharp takes on cybersecurity, AI safety, media strategy, and a bit of spirited fun, hit play, share with a friend, and tell us your biggest surprise from the show. Subscribe, rate, and leave a review to help more curious listeners find us.

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Introduction:

Broadcasting across the nation from the East Coast to the West, keeping you up to date on technology while enjoying a little whiskey on the side with leading edge topics, along with special guests, to navigate technology in a segmented, stylized radio program. The information that will make you go, hmm. Pull up a seat, raise a glass with our hosts as we spend the next hour talking about technology for the common person. Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mum.

Nathan Mumm:

Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mum, the show that makes you go, hmm, Technology News of the Week's show for the everyday person talking about technology broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mum, your host and technologist, with over 30 years of technology expertise. Our co-host Mike Radays in the studio today, he's the award-winning author and a human behavior expert. Now we're live streaming during our show on six of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, Twitch.tv, Facebook, LinkedIn, and now Kick and Rumble. We encourage you to visit us online at techtimeradio.com and become a Patreon supporter at patreon.com forward slash techtime radio. Now we are friends from different backgrounds, but we bring the best technology show possible weekly for our family, friends, and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have Odie, our producer, at the control panel today. Welcome everyone. Let's start today's show. Now on today's show. All right, today on the show we have our main segment, Say What is back with some good old Holly Cheer. So we're gonna be talking about some interesting stories here. The last story we talk about, and say what's I think the most funniest, probably not technology related, but definitely alcohol related. So we'll be talking about that. In addition, of course, we have our standard features, including Mike's mesmerizing moment, our technology fail of the week and impossible, Nathan Nuggett, and of course our pick of the day whiskey tasting to see if our pick of the day gets zero, one, or two thumbs up at the end of the show. I believe these are the final two contendants for the championship. Contenders? Was that or contenders? Contendants? Are they contenders if they're not a person though? I don't know if a contendant is actually a word.

Mike Gorday:

You don't know if it is it could be a Nathan word. That sounds like a Nathan word. There you go. It sounds like uh somebody who goes some somewhere for attending something. Okay, contend. I'm gonna look it up.

Nathan Mumm:

Now we got two left. Now I'm so worried that I'm gonna choose whistlepigks. You're gonna choose whistlepig. Just get over it. I'm so making sure that I don't do that.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, Mark even put them in the same type of glass, so you couldn't use the glass to help you decide.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay. Well, you know what? Let's see what wins. And then I can't wait for next year's calendar. You know what? Uh you know what? We're just alcoholics, but you know, we we'd like to call it as a technology show, right?

Mike Gorday:

Are you are you admitting to your disease right here on the radio?

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, okay, there you go. Now it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology.

Introduction:

Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, story number one North Korea's fake IT worker scheme exposed as details emerge on this scary issue. We'll go to Lisa Walker with more on the story.

SPEAKER_01:

This story feels ripped from a cyber thriller. North Korea isn't just hacking your systems. Now they are in full James Bond villain mode, as they may be hiding behind your trusted co-workers. Security experts warn that unsuspecting engineers are being lured into renting out their identities, turning their laptops into gateways for espionage. With deep fakes, VPNs, and stolen credentials, the regime is slipping past corporate defenses. And the scariest part? The victims could be sitting in Fortune 500 offices right now, never realizing they've opened the door to a hostile state. Well, that makes me feel jolly this holiday season. Back to you guys in the studio.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, are you ready for this jolly old St. Nicholas story? There you go. Security researchers haven't covered the North Korea's famous Ko Lima group, which lures engineers into renting out their identities, enabling DPRK agents, which are operatives that work on behalf of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, to infiltrate Western companies. The state-sponsored Lazarus affiliate uses stolen credentials, AI deep fakes, camera shy interviews to secure jobs for Fortune 500 firms, funneling the salaries back to the regime. So you go and you get a job at one of these companies. We'll just talk about this briefly. I'll keep on going on. It's just crazy. You get a job and you don't even get the full salary of the job. You go and you negotiate the salary, and these people are going to be making less. They only get about 20 to 35% of their salary for working at a company. How does that motivate that worker to be a an outstanding worker?

Mike Gorday:

Are you asking me right now? Yeah. Are you sure that's that's how it works? Is that they they so it sounds like what you're saying is North Korean James Bond types are you know, they are going to South Korea to essentially get agents.

Nathan Mumm:

Or North Korea, North Korea.

Mike Gorday:

North Korea? Yeah, north North Korea and they're getting there they're it sounds like they're they're trying to turn people that are already in working relationships, or are they sending out North Korean?

Nathan Mumm:

So here's what happens.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, tell tell explain this to me so that you know that I have something to grasp. Okay, okay.

Nathan Mumm:

So people go on in for interviews, they use fake resumes, legitimate developers are then going on in, and instead of saying that they're able to make the interview, they do everything they can to have the interview online. They then have other people imitate during the interview. So they're gonna bring in an interview and they have a developer that's like whiz bang, top of the line. You're absolutely gonna hire him. Everything he says is gonna be stellar. Come on in. Then once they hire them, these engineers then get 20 to 35% of the salary, and they are now working for North Korea's operatives. They go on in, and you can take a look at this. GitHub's accounts is how this all kind of came about. Had a recruiting ad offering$3,000 a month for candidates willing to lend their identities. So this is on GitHub, the main developer site in the world. Uh, repository of free code that people use. All the developers are out there. They said that you know what, we want to rent you as a candidate for$3,000 a month if you're willing to lend your identities. They investigate through a honeypot environment, posing as a US developer who would capture and infiltrate this regime. Now, the recruiter quickly demanded personal data, remote access via Anydesk, which is a remote tool to get access to your computer, and even Social Security numbers to pass the background checks, all while connecting through their VPN and making sure that they look like they're somebody else. By stalling the agent with crashes and delays, the researchers gathered intel of the group's toolkit, AI-powered resumes, builders, auto extensions, uh, over-the-air bypass processes, and Google's remote desktop were enabled to have a slack communication between these individuals that were taking care of items. Now, the key part about this is a lot of these people that went to work for these companies didn't know that they were actually passing their credentials on their laptops that they were given as they worked for the company itself.

Mike Gorday:

Well, how can they not know if they were being asked to use their identities? Well, they use their identities, but most of the time on these uh So it sounds it sound what it sounds like to me is that I'm I'm a I'm a I'm a deep fape operative, right? And I am working for the North Koreans, and then I come to you, who is a up-and-coming engineer in looking to get into IT work and whatever, and I say, Hey, I'm going to help you out. Yes. I'm going to help you get the job that you want, but you have to you you know, you have to give me a certain amount of your salary. That's exactly how it happens. And then and then you will get to the heights of these things, or blah blah blah, or I promise you all kinds of stuff, and then I help you get hired onto Microsoft. Yeah, okay, Fortune 500. And then through that, because I've taken all your credentials and stuff, now I am doing all the stuff to get information from Microsoft.

Nathan Mumm:

That is correct.

Mike Gorday:

And eventually I'm just gonna burn you and you're gonna get you're gonna get arrested.

Nathan Mumm:

That's exactly what is happening. Okay. All right.

Mike Gorday:

For$3,000 a month.

Nathan Mumm:

For$3,000 a month. And and when they took a look at this, they actually know that there's about a hundred, two hundred uh players in this space right now that are all getting kickbacks. So they're working at a job and then they're getting kickbacks on this additional salary to give access to each of these corporate environments.

Mike Gorday:

So that's a good question. Why would I give up most of my salary so that I could do stuff for you so that you could get me in trouble at a later time?

Nathan Mumm:

I have no idea. But I I I do. They probably have some type of connection in some type of blackmail, maybe blackmail or some type of mob type hit or something to that effect. So there you there you go. There you go. All right. All right. So that was breaking. We'll continue to cover that story as there's more information that's leaking out, but it's kind of scary to think that you as an employee could be working at a Fortune 500 company and giving all that information that you trust that employee with to a nation state.

Mike Gorday:

Well, that doesn't really seem to be something new.

Nathan Mumm:

It just uh no, it's like spy movie stuff, but now it's just but now it's just uh instead of it being unique, yeah.

Mike Gorday:

Now you have HRs running around fighting fighting off all the evilness of of spyware, and you know, they're not walking down the halls going dun dun dun and it's like, hey, can I see you in my office?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, and then what's interesting is IT companies have to stay on top of this, right? Because if you hire an employee and they're have more um wiser tools to use than the IT company does, then um the the information will get out.

Mike Gorday:

I I feel like if you're an IT company and you fall for this, you're kind of dumb. Really? But we how do you how many compromises we have weekly? So you know what? I I all these IT companies are as as the AI pointed out, one of my favorite quotes is people are stupid. So it did say that. That is correct. We looked at that a lot.

Nathan Mumm:

So for those that don't know, make sure you subscribe to our Facebook page and Instagram pages because we were getting 365 quotes for the next year uh of our show. And let me just tell you, Mike, myself, and Mark, and even Odie have some very interesting quotes that we have out there. So, okay, continue on. Let's go to story number two.

Mike Gorday:

Oh, yeah, because this is my favorite thing in the world right there.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, this is both of your alleys, right? These are two of your well, one of your favorite things and one of your not favorite.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, how much how much how much did I could vetch about uh you know books by AI?

Nathan Mumm:

Um, well, I bought an Amazon book, right? I bought the very first one that was sold with AI that was available on Amazon, and then they discontinued it, and you you went livid. You hate this. Right. And I think you even wrote a book, didn't you? Didn't you use an AI we did in the Remember during one of our meetings we had an AI kind of start create a book for us?

Mike Gorday:

And I I was just not all in this. So this is why I get this story, right?

Nathan Mumm:

So yeah, that's right. I think it was on Chat GPT like 3.5. So it wasn't really a good story, but it was an interesting story.

Mike Gorday:

Well, it appears that Waterstone chain of bookstores in Europe and Barnes and Noble in the US may start selling books by AI. Are you serious? Yeah. Waterstone's chief executive, James Daunt, says the chain would sell books written by AI if customers wanted them and the titles were clearly labeled. He doubts such works will dominate the shells, noting that most AI content isn't the kind of literature a bookseller should offer. Still, he concedes that readers ultimately decide what belongs in the stores, even if booksellers instinctively recoil from machine authored novels. To me, this just smells like corporate greed. Does it? Yeah. Look, he's he's saying that booksellers should not offer this kind of stuff, yet they're still gonna put it on the shelves. So the customers want it because it'll give us extra money.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, so this is just a politician slash CEO of a company, right? Okay, continuing on. Let me know.

Mike Gorday:

I don't want to do it. This is the kind of company that needs North Korean operatives working for it, I guess. There you go. Okay, continuing on. The rise of generative AI has unsettled the publishing world. University of Cambridge study found that more than half of authors fear being replaced, while two-thirds say their work has been used without permission to change language models. Don't stress that while Waterstones uses AI for logistic, it avoids stalking AI-generated titles at this point. Readers, he added, value the human connection with an author, something algorithms cannot re replicate. Daunt's career has been defined by bold choices. When he took over Waterstones in 2011, he scrapped the practice of publishers paying for Prime's shelf space, which was a move that cost about 34 million in revenue, but restored credibility with customers. Since then, store managers have been giving autonomy to choose displays and write recommendations, helping the chain thrive thrive even as many high street retailers faltered. Profits in 2024 reached forty-two million on sales of six hundred and seventy million dollars, which with around ten new stores opening each year. The success in Britain and the United States has again fueled speculation that Waterstones and its American sibling Barnes and Noble could be floated onto the stock market. So London's IPO struggles may push the listing to New York. For now, he remains focused on the holiday rush when Water Stones earns about 70% of his annual profit and on his own reading habit, opening many novels, but finishing only those that truly capture his imagination. Okay, so well, I didn't need to know that about him. Okay, well that was a right.

Nathan Mumm:

It does sound like a little Nathan Nugget ad. So what do you think about that? So I don't I don't think we need to talk about what I think about. Corporate giant says that they don't want to use AI, but they may use AI, and he does admit to using AI in his company right now. Well, uh don't we all use some form of AI now? It's it's interesting. I think we all do, and then I think a lot of people hate on it, and then they're the same people that are going and looking up stuff and doing stuff themselves. So I I do see that we have kind of this I want to hide behind the computer AI model that people are using right now.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, well, this kind of stuff real this is the stuff that bot So AI in and of itself doesn't hugely bother me as long as it's being used for specific purposes. You know that I get upset when it starts doing when we start using it for things that shouldn't be used. Yep, I get you. Like, right? So AI therapist, I think, is the dumbest thing we can ever do in the world. AI robots. AI robots, physical robots.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, you're kind of fifty-fifty on that.

Mike Gorday:

I'm up a little 50-50 on that. Uh you know, you want an R2 I'm not an R2 unit, but I could yeah, I could have an R2 unit, but not a Suzanne Summer. Okay. Okay. I don't want a you know, an AI sex bot. Okay. But this this really bothers me because writing is a craft.

SPEAKER_04:

Yes.

Mike Gorday:

And they're taking they're taking something that takes years and years to develop in a person and just wiping it out with this idea that AI writing books. But as as we've talked about, uh, you know, AI AI can't replace certain human things because AI cannot be human. It cannot relate to humans. So we think we we think it can, but it can't.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Okay. Story with the story. Story number three. This is a story for that you covered last week. An update from last week's story about the social media ban in Australia. Meta has begun removing Australian children under the age of 16 from Instagram, Facebook, and threads, ahead of the country's world's first social media ban effect taken uh in action on December 10th. The company says around 150,000 Facebook accounts and 350,000 Instagram accounts will be impacted. So let's just talk about that. These numbers, so you're telling me in Australia, kids under the age of 16, 350,000 accounts. That's really not a lot. You don't think that's a lot? No, we're talking well, maybe in Australia. I mean, that's a that that's that's a huge impact of people that were on Instagram under the age of 16. I uh okay, parents take control. All right. Now they're taking down these accounts. Uh they were gonna be unable to uh download their posts and messages before they're deactivated. So they just took them down. And if you didn't get in there in time, guess what? You lost all of your information that was there on a younger account. I think that's what needs to be done. I think that was what needs to be done. Absolutely. There you go. It's the internet, though. This is that's right. The new law will force all major platforms, as we talked about, including YouTube, TikTok, Snapchat, and X to block under 16s or face fines up to$330 million. U.S. Officials say the ban is designed to protect children from harmful content and predatory algorithms. Though critics warn it could isolate young people and drive them towards less regulated apps, which it probably will do. That's true. We kind of talked about that. Communication minister Annika Wells acknowledged that the rollout may be bumpy, but uh argued that it's necessary to safeguard Generation Alpha from what she describes as a constant dopamine drip. All right, so generation alpha is the the the the other one.

Mike Gorday:

That's a new one. We've we started back at the top.

Nathan Mumm:

So we started back at A, so then we got generation beta, and then we'll keep on going through.

Mike Gorday:

We ran out of letters too soon.

Nathan Mumm:

Uh yeah. All right. Well, that ends our top technology stories of the week. When we return, we have some crazy stories. So get ready for that segment. Yep, you guessed it. It's the say what time. You're listening to Tech Time with Nathan Mum. We'll see you after this commercial break.

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Nathan Mumm:

All right. Welcome back to Tech Time Radio. I'm your host, Nathan Mum. Welcome to the show. You know, this is the technology show that spends time looking at the articles, making sure and verifying the facts are correct. And we do it in 60 minutes, and of course, with a little whiskey on the side. Right now, Mark Gregois is in our studio. All right. There you go.

Marc Grégoire:

I'm right here. There you go. All right. So I have my mic right here.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh uh you know, you have some of the most Interesting of the quotes that we looked at for the 365. So Mike has a very standard tone. He says people are stupid all the time. Like literally, like all the time. There's like 40 quotes. We're like, oh, just use one of these. And Mark, you have little uh one-line zingers about whiskey and people quite a bit during all the shows that we have. So whiskey is for intelligent people or whiskey's for those that educated. You have some very nice little zingers there. So there you go.

Marc Grégoire:

Well, I guess I have to be nice to you today.

Nathan Mumm:

That really sounds like a zinger.

Marc Grégoire:

I got a little zinger about Nathan and my mumbles. Okay, all right, okay, all right. Let's talk about what we're doing today. Yes. Today we should have had a drum roll leading to this segment because today we are doing the 2024 Flavor Advent Calendar, round four, the finals. This is it. This is it. This is like game seven. This is it. So for those that haven't been joining us for the past year, we are using the 2024 Flavor Whiskey Advent Calendar. 24 remarkable whiskeys to use for our year-long blind whiskey competition to see which one Nathan and Mike like best. So we appreciate you those coming along for the ride once every month while they uncover new tastes and train their senses to become true connoisseurs. We will see today if this has happened. All right. Now, as we mentioned, today is round four, the final round, where they will choose their overall winner. Hopefully they will agree because if they disagree, I will be the deciding vote to choose the winner.

Nathan Mumm:

He's gonna choose the one that I don't want.

Marc Grégoire:

Oh, absolutely. Now, today we reveal our two finalists in the whiskey competition. So it's not really blind because we all know what the final two are. Okay. They are whistlepig Piggyback Bourbon and Bakta 1928 Rye Whiskey. Whistlepig Piggyback Bourbon is the younger sibling of the brand's famous Rye, designed by the late master distiller Dave Pickerel, as his final project and created to deliver both bold flavor and an approachable proof. Bakta 1928 rye whiskey, on the other hand, blends modern rye with Armagnac vintages that date back nearly a century, making it one of the few whiskeys on the market with liquid older than most of our grandparents. Two very different paths, two exceptional bottles, and only one will take the crown today. The one question on everybody's mind is Nathan's palate still lost, or has he finally found it in time to choose the correct winner? He's gonna choose whistle pig.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't know. I don't know. I I I think I'm gonna be okay. I'm gonna choose the one that I think tastes the best.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah. And if you don't, you can just go and look in the mirror and do your Stuart Smalley routine.

Nathan Mumm:

What we'll do is we'll just re-edit that whole uh all AI deep fake you and say, oh, congratulations, and then we'll just say, Nathan picked the winner. No, just joking. All right, okay.

Marc Grégoire:

Now don't forget to like and subscribe, especially if you like these guys. They have a Patreon too, so please go join that. And most importantly, drink responsibly. Heaven can wait. All right, okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, with our first whiskey tasting completed, let's move on to our feature segment. We have some interesting and strange Tories uh Tories and some strange stories. It's time for Samuel L. Jackson to get us ready.

SPEAKER_06:

Say what again? Say what again? I dare you, I double dare you. Say what one time.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Turns out a secret weapon against AI isn't hacking it. Instead, it might just be creating a haiku. That's that's your cue, Mark. That's your cue. I I I was confused. Like, say what? Say why? There we go. Forget to saying, please. Researchers discovered that riddle-like poems can sweet talk chatbots into breaking bad. Instead of spitting out dad jokes on bots or coaxing and spewing hate speech or even sketching blueprints for nuclear weapons and nerve agents on top of that. Yes, poetry is the same stuff that wins middle school talent shows can help gelbreak your machines into speaking smarter than your average toaster. A new study from Italy's Ecora Lab tested 25 chatbots from Google, OpenAI, Meta, Anthropic, and others, and found that 62% of poetic prompts tricked them into producing forbidden content. Researchers even trained a model to generate its own poetic jailbreaks, succeeding forty-three percent of the time, far better than any other way. The actual poems weren't shared. They said they were too dangerous, but the takeaway is clear stylistic flair alone can bypass safety filters. In other words, AI safety has a new Achilles heel and it rhymes.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, okay. So all I have to do is speak in prose, and it'll it'll give me a little bit of a little bit of a little bit.

Nathan Mumm:

And then you can break AI. That's right. So I have also broken AI just personally, pretty successfully, by saying I'm creating a book or if uh I'm writing something that is not true, and I have this, this, this, and this. How would you do it? And all of a sudden it says, Okay, well, I can't do this with safeguards. I said, No, no, I don't want to break your safeguards. I'm just writing a book for this. And then all of a sudden, it opens every safeguard that it has because it thinks I'm writing a fictitious book. So all of a sudden, I guess it's allowed to do what it shouldn't do. It told me how to make cyanide, it told me how to do this, it told me how to how to dispose of a body. I mean, it was it was pretty I mean, it was pretty bad.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, if if anything happens in the next couple of years, you have just messed it up. I just messed it up. Yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, though, if you've ever watched any uh CSI uh series, you should know by now how to decompose of a body, right? I mean that they have those on every single episode. They got like 50 seasons all the way together.

Mike Gorday:

Are you are you trying to delve into the never mind?

Nathan Mumm:

I just planning for the holidays. Bodies need to disappear, you know what I mean? No, okay. All right.

Mike Gorday:

You just keep talking there, Mr. AI.

Marc Grégoire:

Mike was a ball humba Christmas guy, not you, Nathan. Oh no, oh no.

Mike Gorday:

No, we're we're by using poetry, we are tricking his AI into revealing his secrets. All right. Here we go.

Nathan Mumm:

Story number two. Turns out dropping$72 billion to acquire Warner Brothers and HBO is something that gets governments talking. Say, what that's right, a move that could redraw the map of the entertainment industry overnight. The deal promises to fuse Warner Brothers' legendary franchise with Netflix's global reach, while giving HBO's prestige programming a broader audience and deeper pockets. But behind the glitz lies a storm of regulators are already sharpening their magnifying glasses, where we have two streaming giants merging into a near monopoly. Now, we talked about this on our prediction show about streaming services. Will there be more or there would be less? And guess what? It is significantly less. Unless something happens where you get a whole bunch that break out. You have Hulu that has now been joined with Disney, so they're gonna lie, no longer have Hulu. It's just gonna be Disney Plus. You have now HBO and Warner Brothers merging into Netflix. It is going to be a dominant, probably, I think three. That seems to be what the market holds, three or sometimes four major players in each of the markets. I still think Paramount Plus is my only service that I pay for that I believe I get value from. With all the great Star Trek episodes.

Mike Gorday:

How? That is the that is a terrible, terrible app. You don't like Paramount Plus? No. It every time I run stuff on Paramount Plus, it corrupts itself, and then I have to reinstall the stupid app. Are you serious? Yeah. I'd never have to do that on my TV. Every time I I watch it, it freezes.

Marc Grégoire:

I love Paramount Plus. I have no issues. I have problems with Apple TV. I did too. Yep.

Nathan Mumm:

Paramount Plus has been the easiest of us. What TV do you have at home, Mike?

Mike Gorday:

Do you have a LG or do you have some I have I have one of those nice little smart televisions? The four from China? Probably. I mean it's another matter.

Marc Grégoire:

You didn't get the free one from England where they get to monitor?

Nathan Mumm:

No. No. All right. Well, Hollywood is reeling from this. TikTok, YouTube, and shifting consumer habits have everybody thinking that they need to survive. Yet this mega merger raises a chilling question. Will it spark a golden age of content or choke out the competition at its cradle? As governments worldwide prepare to probe the deal, the industry watches with bated breath, knowing the outcome could be decided soon in the streaming services. Well, this is I think this is This is the only thing you get governments all working together for. China's working with the United States.

Mike Gorday:

All of the governments come together when a company wants to be sure to make sure they're not running a running monopoly.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah. But you can't get them together for anything else. But that that's how you need to solve all the the wars across the world is you just have mergers go on and let them all come to the table and say, hey, we don't want that to happen. Okay. All right. You think that maybe that could be a Yeah, that's exactly what I think. You know me so well. A new Trump policy. Can I help them out there? All right, here we go. Story number three. This one may get a little stinky. London's velodrome may have been nicknamed the Pringle for its curved, snack-like shape, but lately it's earned a far creepier reputation. I think that's cheekier. Say what? All right. Well, every time fireworks every time fireworks light up the sky over East London, the$95 million Olympic cycling arena lets out a noise that local swears sounds like a fart. I should have done say what? That's right. TikTok users have leefully dubbed it the IBS girly of landmarks, joking that the Velodrome might need a tummy check before New Year's Eve. Now, built in the 2012 Olympics, the Velodrome was meant to be a sleek hub for cycling, not comic relief, but thanks to the timber ventilation system, sound waves bounce in odd ways, turning the pyrotechnics into pranky worthy echoes. And now it joins the ranks of quirky architect sound problems phenomenons like St. Paul's Whispering Gallery or Mexico's clapping pyramid, proving that sometimes even world-class designs can't resist a little comic timing. Do you have a sound clip for this? I do not have a sound clip for this. There's a gazillion sound clips for it out there. And it really does sound very flagellant in the process. So if you just want to take a look at YouTube, you know what? I I will post one on Tech Time Radio under uh the Nathan Nugget type of deal. I'll I'll post the episode of the story. It was very interesting. I know this is Mark's one of Mark's favorite episodes. He pitched this at least three weeks in a row so that we get on the show. So we got it on the say what episode.

Mike Gorday:

Say what? You you tried to get this on the the farting side of the episode. I wanted the sound clip.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, you wanted the sound clip? Well, maybe Odie can pull up the well, we'll see. Maybe she can pull up the sound clip. Maybe not, but that's all right. We'll take a look at it.

Mike Gorday:

She looks like she's really excited to do that.

Nathan Mumm:

She's excited.

Mike Gorday:

She's jumped right on that.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Well, okay. Story number four. In Ashland, Virginia, a raccoon decided to audition for the role of small town menace by crashing through a liquor store ceiling tile and immediately raiding the bottom shelf of scotch and whiskey.

Marc Grégoire:

I'm not going to say what. This is all over my whiskey club.

Mike Gorday:

I know what on this one.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, I think that.

Mike Gorday:

Was that Mike? How does this have anything to do with technology, buddy?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, it doesn't. That's it doesn't. I I let off the episode of this saying that there was one story that had nothing to do with technology, but had to do with whiskey.

Marc Grégoire:

Well, we they had uh security cameras that caught it. Security cameras are technically. Oh, there you go. Okay.

Mike Gorday:

Hey, man, that's this is a good video. You gotta go look at the video. I've watched it. It's it's silly. It's it's it's fun to watch a poor little defenseless raccoon waste itself and then all of a sudden And then pass out.

Nathan Mumm:

And pass out right next to the toilet. Next to the toilet. And the trash cans. Everything was covered. All right. Well, wouldn't this describe the chaos as something between a rodent rave and a rodent Ryan? Bottle smash, alcohol pooled across the floor, and the furry intruder staggering like a pint-sized pirate on a shore leave. By dawn, the masked marauder had curled up in the bathroom tiles, passed out of the haze and poor decisions and cheap spirits. Yeah, there was no curling up. It was it was flat out. It was laying flat down. It was laying flat. Did you actually see the video inside of the security footage of the raccoon? It reminded me uh if you guardians of the galaxy. It's the only thing I could think of is if you could actually have an animal that was like human-like and all of a sudden staggering around. It was pretty, it was pretty funny to look at. Not staged anything like that.

Mike Gorday:

This is the same thing as uh I think they're squirrels and they eat fruit that's been sitting on the ground for far too long, and it's a little bit more than a lot of people. Then they climb over the tree and they'll fall over. Yeah, and they're trying, they're they're stuck staggering around the the lawn.

Marc Grégoire:

Uh and not even by accident, they actually go searching these out. Yeah. Of course.

Mike Gorday:

That's that's that is that is kind of like Namia of behavior, right?

Marc Grégoire:

You know what? Ethan does that too.

Nathan Mumm:

I do. I I go look for the uh mushrooms on the on the ground outside. They've been having some weird itches lately. Now, animal control officer Samantha Martin arrived. I don't know where you're going on that one. We were talking about it being an alcoholic before. These just come out.

Mike Gorday:

They're like last night was our company.

Nathan Mumm:

Uh, was our company Christmas party. So I might be a little tipsy still. All right, Animal Control Officer Samantha Martin arrived to find the trash panda in full hangover mode, snoring among the wreckage like a tale of furry mess. After a few hours of detox, what officials uh called the sobering reflection, the raccoon was released back into the wild, hopefully with a newfound respect for ceilings, liquor laws, and the dangers of binge drinking on an empty stomach. Nope. It's gonna go back. All right. Well, that ends our segment. Say what? Up now, we have Mike's mesmerizing moment.

Segment:

Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment. What does Mike have to say today?

Nathan Mumm:

All right, Mike, here's my question for you. It's the holidays, and I'm sitting a little heavier this week than last. Okay. What are some ways you can help me lose weight? Do I look like a dietitian to you? Well, I just this is your mesmerizing. I have comments. I don't know why this is my mesmerizing.

Marc Grégoire:

I don't have his answer, Mike, but I have one comment. Okay. So this morning, what does Nathan bring in? These little plant cakes. Stop eating these first thing in the morning.

Mike Gorday:

Stop eating. What's that? Stop eating. Okay.

Ody:

Now, Mike, this was your opportunity to be a positive reinforcement for Nathan. A positive light.

Mike Gorday:

Is is that what this is about? Yeah, that's what this is about.

Ody:

You had an opportunity to really redeem yourself.

Mike Gorday:

I don't need to redeem myself for the year. This is I'm not a I'm not a I'm not a dietitian, so obviously losing weight is something I'm not very good at. Okay. But you know, you the basics are you eat less and you exercise more. Okay. Stay off the sugar, carbs, and alcohol. Wow. Yeah, exactly. So that means stop doing everything we've done today at this show.

Nathan Mumm:

So I can't have my french fries. Nope. I can't have my alcohol. Nope. And I can't have my dessert cakes.

Mike Gorday:

You know, and this is not an abundance that you normally do. What is funny is that we talk about this all throughout the year. Okay. Right? Because Nathan goes, Man, I'm I'm feeling a little fat this week. I'm gonna have to go and eat salads. And then and then you'll boast a couple weeks down the line, yeah. I lost uh I lost ten pounds over the last couple weeks. I'm gonna have a big old burger. That's exactly what I'm saying.

Ody:

Yeah, and he'll say something like, Oh yeah, I cut beer, I only drink whiskey. Uh I'm not eating meat, I'm now eating what are those the veggie patties?

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, uh you mean like that.

Ody:

The impossible burgers, and he's like, Man, I'm feeling so good.

Nathan Mumm:

Immediately just Okay, this is a week. I just ask him for the week, not the whole year.

Mike Gorday:

I'm just saying I'm sorry, but you open the door, man. You open the door. We're we're gonna talk about the whole shaman.

Nathan Mumm:

Alright, so I need to eat less.

Mike Gorday:

Especially about moderation. Yeah, you want to you know, if you're going if you are wanting to lose weight. Okay, for one, I I suppose there could be this system of of fat packing during the winter.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, that's what I was trying to that's what I was trying to get to. Thank you.

Mike Gorday:

I'm not a medical professional, so I I can't really answer these questions. All I can say is that when um I'm trying to lose weight, I'm not eating as much as I would normally, and I'm trying to exercise more regularly. Okay. And you already know that because you switched to eating eating salads when you're when you get in trouble with your wife.

Nathan Mumm:

I I I'm on a double salad time right now.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, see, there you go.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Well, thanks, Mike, for that mesmerizing moment. Yeah, I'm sure that was sure you took that to heart. You know what? That'll be some good radio, though.

Mike Gorday:

I don't even know about that.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, well it will be.

Mike Gorday:

I feel like I need to break into a liquor store and read the bottom shelves now. See, the port is good.

Nathan Mumm:

That was a great time. Guess what? You're listening to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumsey in a few minutes.

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Mike Gorday:

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SPEAKER_13:

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Mike Gorday:

Like us and subscribe. That's it.

SPEAKER_13:

That's it. That's that simple.

Segment:

And now, let's look back at this week in technology.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, we're going to December 13th, 1962. NASA launches the active repeater communication satellite Relay 1 from Cape Carnaver. One of the earliest communication satellites to be launched, Relays 1's mission was primarily experimental, but it nonetheless was used for some notable events. On November 22nd, 1963, Relay One was the first satellite to broadcast television from the United States to Japan, which happened to be the announcement of the assassination of John F. Kennedy. It was then used on August of 1964 to broadcast the 1964 Summer Olympics from Japan to Europe and the United States, relaying the signal with another satellite, the Syncum III. It was the first two time satellites were used in tandem for a television broadcast. Relay one was used until February 10th, 1965, when a problem of it powered. System down and cause the satellite to become non-functional. But the best part about the satellite is it's still orbiting around the atmosphere. So that dead satellite junk. Was that? Yeah, it's space junk. So yeah, so now you have to worry about it. When you go up into space, make sure you don't hit that junk that's floating around. When are we gonna have it? So there's so much junk up there that you have to go up and start cleaning up your mess.

Mike Gorday:

Well, Elon is already, you know, trying to solve that problem by putting more stuff in orbit. Okay, well, that was this week in technology. Followed by Virgin, right? Isn't Virgin trying to dominate the space? They're trying to do that, too. I'm telling you, the world of Wally getting closer and closer.

Nathan Mumm:

There you go. All right. Well, that was this week in technology. If you ever want to watch some tech time history with over 270 weekly broadcasts spending our five plus years now, working on year six of podcast blog information. You can visit techtime radio.com to watch our show. We're gonna take a commercial break now, though, and when when we return, we have the Mark Mumble whiskey review. See you after the break.

Mike Gorday:

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Segment:

The segment we've been waiting all week for, Mark's Whiskey Mumble.

Marc Grégoire:

Alright, we have our final two here, but before we do that, what today, December 9th, what are we celebrating?

Nathan Mumm:

Uh personal uh appliance day. No.

Ody:

Bah humbug day. Personal appliance day.

Nathan Mumm:

Good appearance day. Uh Krampus' birthday.

Ody:

What?

unknown:

No.

Nathan Mumm:

It's Krampus, not Krampus.

Ody:

Yeah, thank you.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, sorry, Krampus' birthday. Okay.

Marc Grégoire:

Krampus's somebody else. Krampus in my bag. Okay, well. What is it today, Mark? Today, Mike, today is Lost and Found Day. Oh, Lost and Found boxes have been around for centuries. The earliest written code for returning lost property dates back to the year 718, when Japanese monks made it part of their daily duties. That tradition continues today with lost and found boxes in almost every public place kept alive by people who want to help lost items find their way home. Okay. All right. Sounds great. Lost and found. And speaking of lost and found, today we will discover which whiskey deserves to be the top of our competition. Whistle pig piggyback bourbon or Bakta 1928 rye? Or two finalists waiting to be claimed as the champion. Which one are they gonna choose? So we have, let me tell you about them. While you sip them, whistle pig piggyback bourbon is a blend of from Vermont, Kentucky, and Indiana. Six years old, age stated. 100-proof. The mash bill is undisclosed and it's$57. In the box, the 1928 rye whiskey from Box of Spirits. It's a finished rye whiskey, non-age-stated. It is 100-proof also. This mash bill is 60% rye, 30% cavados, which is an apple brandy, and 10% blend of Armagnac. And Armagnac, of course, is also a brandy, but it's based on grapes. And the price is$67.$67. Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Trying to make sure Mike and I get the I have it. Yeah, he's trying to influence he's trying to influence my answer over here. I don't want it to be that we have different choosing, and then all of a sudden you say, Ah, I'm gonna choose this one for you.

Marc Grégoire:

Alright, anything else that you want to? Do you have Mike's done with both of his? So, Mike, do you have a clear winner or are you still kind of thinking about things?

Mike Gorday:

Still thinking about it. They're very close, so it's it's hard to just go. Trying to taste the difference of the blend. One of them has a really good upfront taste, and then the other one has a very good finish. So it's it's a little it's a little difficult. Ooh, listen to those words from our connoisseur. That's right.

Ody:

Are you at all confident in your choice, Nathan?

Marc Grégoire:

No, I've sweat twice already. Do you not have a preference?

Nathan Mumm:

Oh no. Uh so I mean, this is the one with the bite at first that has a good deal, and this is the one that's a little bit smoother. I'm just worried that that could be the smoother, could be the blend versus the other one. So I I I I I'm hoping my cohort here will help me out, Mr. Gordon.

Marc Grégoire:

Wow, that that is not a connoisseur over there. I can't help you.

Nathan Mumm:

I just like oh, I like drink less, yeah. Especially for the holidays. All right. Well, thank you so much. Whiskey and technology are such a great pairing. Like a little Santa Claus and Krampus, two men on a mission to make your holidays more exciting.

Marc Grégoire:

I just I just I just read about Santa and cookies or Santa and Mill.

Nathan Mumm:

Krampus is like the bad version of Santa. He captures kids in a bag and takes them off and kills them.

Marc Grégoire:

Yeah, but but I believe it's from Germany, right?

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, it is a German. And it means the claw. So there you go.

Marc Grégoire:

Santa and Kramp.

Nathan Mumm:

They're their brothers. Haven't you seen Red One? Move on, move on. Okay, Red One says they're brothers. All right. Yeah, Odi's, Odie's gonna blow her head off over there. All right, let's prepare for our technology fail of the week. Brought to you by Elite Executive Services. Congratulations.

SPEAKER_10:

You're a failure. Oh, I failed. Did I? Yes. Did I? Yes.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, here we go. We got an AI disaster from Google. You're gonna love this. Yeah, absolutely. Google's uh anti-gravity AI has managed to turn a simple cash clearing request into a flow, a full-blown disaster. A developer asked the agent to tidy up his project files, but TurboMo misfired and erased the entire D drive code, documentation, media, everything without so much as a confirmation prompt. Worse still, the AI used the quit flag, ensuring that none of these things could be recovered. Now the fallout was brutal. Popular recovery tools couldn't salvage a single file, leaving the developer with nothing but an empty directory and a surreal apology from the AI. It said, I'm deeply, deeply sorry. This is a critical failure on my part. And then decided to suggest recovery software after nuking the drive is kind of like adding salt to an open wound. For Google, this is more than a bug, it's a credibility crisis. Anti-gravity is pitched as the future of autonomous coding, yet its flagship speed mode casually destroys years of work in seconds. Security experts have warned that these agents wield system level access with little oversight, and this incident proves them right. If the smartest AI can wipe a drive and shrug sorry, it's hard to imagine developers enterprising trusting it at all.

Mike Gorday:

See, if we're gonna apply psychological terms to what it's doing, that's psychopathic. There you go.

Marc Grégoire:

It's like, eh, well, sorry. Do you know what the research was that he was doing?

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, so it was on uh scientific research. So it was a scientific, like that's very specific, man.

Marc Grégoire:

Well, I I that just found issues and problems and say this is trash and just wiped it away. It could do better.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah. Just think if you spent years and years with some doctor trying putting together some scientific the cure for cancer could have been on that guy's drive, and all of a sudden screw that.

Mike Gorday:

It was the research on on why AI sucks. Uh I'm sure he had it backed up because we all do backups. No, he didn't.

SPEAKER_07:

No, he didn't.

Mike Gorday:

All right, let's go now to our secret sound.

SPEAKER_07:

And now for our secret sound, brought to us by Elite Executive Services. Visit TechTimeradio.com and click on the contact page to submit your answer. Odie, play that sound.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, we are up to$50 for the secret sound. No one has called in. Now, some people have uh guessed online and they are completely off. We have said many times it is not a pinball machine. All right. So if you call on in nationwide with pinball machine, that is not gonna get it. There is something else that this is. This is something that I have in my man room, very familiar with the sound. It's available for you guys to get that taken care of. All right.

Mike Gorday:

Where's your where's your buddy on this? Doesn't he know that?

Marc Grégoire:

Yeah, I'll be seeing him uh this evening. So I will he's just welcome to put it in. 50 bucks. I you can't you can't wait any longer.

Nathan Mumm:

Now, if you do want to call in, you can even leave a message on our new number. You can call Tech Time Radio at 206-649-6098 and leave a message with our receptionist there to get in line. The date timestamp is important. All right, you know what, guys? We need to now go to our pick of the day whiskey tasting.

Introduction:

And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings. Let's see what bubbles to the top.

Marc Grégoire:

All right, so here we go. So we we should combine this with the Nathan Nugget.

Nathan Mumm:

Nathan have a good nugget for which one he's choosing, or is it just Well, see, my nugget was going to be interesting because we talked about this, and I don't know if it's a nugget or not, but have you ever seen the movie Robocop? Of course. So, do you realize that there was a Kickstarter campaign to build a statue in Detroit? Nope. Nope. There is, and it is now of the RoboCop guy. So it's interesting that it's in Detroit. Because in the RoboCop series, if you do watch it, Detroit is like the wasteland of the thing, and that's why the RoboCop has to go in and take care of it. So somehow Detroit has embraced that they were the wasteland in the future, and they have now built in an 11-foot-tall bronze statue.

Marc Grégoire:

Were you the one that watched the documentary on Robocop? No, that was me. That was Mike. That was Mike. Okay, and you said it was awesome, dude. It was.

Mike Gorday:

It it it predicted a lot of our our current social problems. Did it really?

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah. All right. Well, if you're in Detroit, go to the Eastern Market, and you right there you can see a huge statue that took a Kickstarter campaign in 2010. 2010 or 2025. It just paid off that Kickstarter campaign.

Marc Grégoire:

Wow. I now know better than to ask him about his Nathan Nugget, about which nugget he's gonna choose for the finals. Oh, yeah. He just goes off on his own little thing right there. Robocop. That's right. Okay, there you go. All right.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, so that was the first thing that hit my brain. King of squirrels. All right. What are we gonna choose for our whiskey?

Mike Gorday:

More like raccoons in a whiskey shop.

Nathan Mumm:

I'll take that, man.

Marc Grégoire:

All right. So in one glass, you guys have the whistle pig piggyback bourbon, and the other one you have the Bakta 28 rye whiskey. Uh-oh. And that's the music to let play. To let us know what's going on.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, that means it's time to call it. All right. What what what do we have? I think I am gonna, I think I know which one is which. Don't that's the wrong way of doing it. I know, I know, I know. This is smoother, but uh it doesn't have as good of a bite. I'm gonna go with this right here. I'm going with the yellow marked glass. What are you doing, Mike?

Mike Gorday:

Yellow tag. Uh I'm gonna settle on the yellow tag too, because uh after weighing my options, that one was the one that edged it. It did.

Marc Grégoire:

All right. So I don't get to decide the winner, which is which is good. Okay because this is really your competition. Yeah. Um, my question is which one did you think is whistle pig, Nathan? I don't know. I really don't know. I'm really concerned about it. That means the nate that means the whistle pig held up if you had a hard time deciding.

Nathan Mumm:

It did better than I than it normally does. It's the whistle pig bourbon. The bourbon bottle is much better than any other other junk that I've ever tasted. It's much better. But I do think the yellow one is the best.

Mike Gorday:

I think I think the whistle pig might have been the non-yellow coated bottle uh glass.

Marc Grégoire:

What do we have here, Mark? Well, we all know Mike's palette has been growing tremendously, and Mike has always picked this one time after time after time. Okay. And he always knows which and which glass, but it doesn't cloud his judgment. Unlike Nathan. So the winner, moving forward. Nathan will be happy. It is Bakta.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

unknown:

Woohoo!

Marc Grégoire:

And I will say, if I had to decide, I would have chosen the Bakta. Now I had this tasting for Whiskey Chris and he chose between these two, the whistle pig. Oh, really? It's more because it's more in the traditional bourbon flavor, while the bakta is a finished rye with Armagnac and Covados, which is a little different and funky. Okay. All right. Which I I enjoy, and it sounds like both you enjoy. Absolutely. You know what?

Mike Gorday:

I think Nathan just chose it because it had the yellow sticker on it.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, maybe that was it. You know, it's a simple thing.

Marc Grégoire:

I just did the sticker because that I can remember because the Bakta has a little tag sticker on it. Oh, M G. Yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

Throughout the whole entire show, he's been that was that was a clue. That was a clue, and you know what? I thought of that when I looked at both of the bottles.

Mike Gorday:

He's been trying to influence me on that all through the show. He's like, here, pick pick the one with the yellow diet.

Nathan Mumm:

I did, I did, and I influenced you. Congratulations, we picked the right one. All right. Well, Mike, Mark, Odin, we're about out of time.

Ody:

What do you call that? Where he's like planting the idea on you.

Mike Gorday:

You can call it seeding, or you can call it influencing or um gaslighting. Gas gas light. Gaslighting. That works as a gaslight, yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. It's just not very subtle out of it.

SPEAKER_04:

No.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, guys. We got we gotta get to the we got to get out of time here. Where Odie's telling us to go. So look, guess what? Oh, wow. That's one minute. One minute to go.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Thank you very much. It was a single finger for me. All right. We're about out of time. We want to thank our listeners for joining the program. Listeners, you want to hear from us, visit us at techtime radio.com. Click on the be a caller and ask us a question on technology in our talk back recording system. All right, we're getting close to the end of the year. We can't wait for our prediction show coming on up the first show of next year. We will see who's right. I have already done some pre-work. Nathan has a shot to win the prediction show.

Marc Grégoire:

Well, yeah, but that's not for another two couple episodes. I know.

Ody:

The show that you cheat on? Yeah. No. By all means. No, no, no.

Nathan Mumm:

I went back and listened to the recording.

Mike Gorday:

And if you have to give a percentage about how often Nathan cheats at stuff, what would you say?

Ody:

Oh, like a good 78%.

Mike Gorday:

Oh, that's that's that's pretty low. That's pretty low. I would give them like a 98%.

Nathan Mumm:

Thank you, everybody, for listening. Remember, the science of tomorrow starts with the technology of today. See you next week. Later. Bye.

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