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277: TechTime Radio: "THANKS" Giving Episode with Dubai’s Flying Taxis, Australia’s Teen Social Ban, CVE vs Hackers, Nike’s Robo Shoes, Unsafe AI Toys, Black Friday Deals, with Guest Nick Espinosa | Air Date: 11/25 - 1/1/25

• Nathan Mumm • Season 7 • Episode 277

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What happens when a holiday “thankful” theme clashes with cutting-edge technology, bold policies, and some notable missteps? We begin with Dubai’s high-profile plan to introduce flying taxis and ask tough questions: can eVTOLs truly reduce travel time after accounting for boarding, airspace management, and vertiport capacity—or will they just be expensive toys hovering above gridlocked cities?

Next, we discuss Australia’s eye-catching ban on social media for users under 16. We openly address the issues it aims to solve—cyberbullying, grooming, and addictive content—and consider the potential loss of social and educational benefits for teens, along with the challenges of age verification, VPN use, and platform switching.

Our guest, cybersecurity expert Nick Espinoza, highlights the CVE database, which quietly supports global vulnerability management. When defenders respond swiftly, it’s because CVE provides a shared map. This connects to real-world enforcement—like the arrest of a suspected Russian hacker in Thailand through international cooperation—and the rapidly evolving frontline where AI counters AI. Modern defenses depend on machine learning and deep learning that analyze CVEs, detect indicators of compromise, and respond faster than humans, narrowing the gap from cyberattackers who automate their tactics.

We also examine Nike’s provocative concept of “e-bikes for your feet,” discussing when robotic assistance improves mobility and recovery—and when it might serve as a shortcut that sacrifices effort for convenience. Additionally, we highlight a notable failure: AI toys that used a loosely constrained model to deliver inappropriate and unsafe content to children before being removed. This underscores that safety measures are essential in consumer AI. We conclude with practical insights: a whiskey worth tasting, worthwhile laptop deals, and advice to delay TV purchases until the Super Bowl.

If this blend of skeptical analysis, useful tips, and cybersecurity insights appeals to you, follow the show, share with a friend, and leave a quick review—what story made you nod, and which one made you say “humm”?

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Introduction:

Broadcasting across the nation from the East Coast to the West, keeping you up to date on technology while enjoying a little whiskey on the side with leading edge topics, along with special guests, to navigate technology in a segmented, stylized radio program. The information that will make you go, hmm. Pull up a seat, raise a glass with our hosts as we spend the next hour talking about technology for the common person. Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mum.

Nathan Mumm:

Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mum, the show that makes you go, hmm. Technology News of the Week, the show for the everyday person, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mum, your host and technologist with over 30 years of technology expertise. Our co-host Mike Roday is in the studio, of course, and he's the award-winning author and a human behavior expert. Now, today is our Thanksgiving show, so we're going to be talking about what we are most thankful for in technology. Now we're live streaming during our show on six of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, Twitch.tv, Facebook, LinkedIn, and now Kick and Rumble. We encourage you to visit us online at techtimeradio.com and become a Patreon supporter at patreon.com forward slash techtime radio. We're all friends from different backgrounds, but we bring the best technology show possible weekly for our family, friends, and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have Odie, our producer at the control panel today. Welcome everyone. Let's start today's show.

Segment:

Now on today's show.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Today's show is all about the turkey. Gobble gobble. You know, we got a special uh sound effect that Odie's gonna be playing during the show with the turkey gobble. So that will be interesting. We also have why the spoiler. There you go. That's very unique. Isn't that that's that's original? So anytime in our turkey that she wants to jump in, she's gonna play that, and then we'll all go silent and then we'll let her say whatever needs to be done. There you go. All right, we have our special guest. So it's a it's a uh episode for a holiday. So guess what that means we have on? There's one guest that is our holiday guest.

Mike Gorday:

Oh, yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

He comes on for Halloween. Yeah, he's he's the he's the scariest guy I really like. He's the scariest guy you really like. We have Nick Espinoza back on the show today, so we're thankful for that. And you know what? I am thankful for the radio crew all here today, and of course, whiskey. Mike, what are you thankful for?

Mike Gorday:

You're just gonna lay that on. What am I thankful for? Um I'll be thankful that this day is almost over.

Nathan Mumm:

This day is almost over. Okay. All right, okay. Well, in addition to that, we have our standard features, including Mike's mesmerizing moment, technology fail of the week, possible Nathan Nugget, and of course our pick of the day whiskey tasting to see if our selected whiskey pick gets zero one or two thumbs up by the end of the show. Now, though, it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology.

Introduction:

Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, story number one Dubai to launch world's first flying taxi service. Dubai is posed to make history as the first city worldwide to roll out a commercial flying taxi network. All right, let's go to Lisa Walker for more on this.

Speaker:

Dubai, known for its supercar culture and luxury lifestyle, draws millions of visitors each year and is home to millions of residents. Yet, despite its sprawling highways, traffic congestion remains a daily challenge, with rush hour commutes stretching to 45 minutes across the city's core ten miles. While not LA traffic woes, this is a challenge for this tourist-driven city. That gridlock could soon be cut in half with the arrival of the Joby S4 Air Taxi, an electric vertical takeoff and landing EV tall aircraft, capable of soaring through the skies at speeds up to 200 miles per hour. Would you take the sky for an estimated $200 per person trip back to you guys in the studio?

Nathan Mumm:

Seriously. Alright, so Odie, let me I'm gonna go right to Odie first. Odie?

Ody:

Well, you know my opinion about flying cars.

Mike Gorday:

Okay. What's your opinion about flying cars?

Ody:

I'm against them.

Mike Gorday:

Why?

Ody:

Because people okay, wait, hold on.

Nathan Mumm:

There's hard enough for people driving off the ground.

Ody:

Yeah. Why do they need to be off the ground in order to drive?

Nathan Mumm:

But this is a taxi service. This is a taxi service. Right.

Ody:

And you know who sucks more at driving than regular people? Taxi people? Taxi people.

Mike Gorday:

Wow. You're not from New York.

Ody:

I don't need to be. I've seen the footage.

Mike Gorday:

I uh okay.

Ody:

And I I've been to New York.

Mike Gorday:

I I think they're I think it's funny that they're whining about 45 minutes for ten ten miles. They they they really need to come over here into Seattle and and like go two miles in 45 minutes.

Ody:

Lisa did say that uh it's not like LA. It's not like LA.

unknown:

Yeah.

Mike Gorday:

Well, nothing's like LA.

Ody:

And mind you, I've been to Guatemala. Guatemala traffic is so much worse than here.

Nathan Mumm:

Is that really? Yeah, it's horrible. That makes sense. Well, built by the California-based Joby Aviation, the fleet promises zero emissions, minimal noise, quieter than a helicopter, in the range of a hundred miles per hour flight.

Ody:

That doesn't okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Until it wrecks.

Ody:

Are how are people gonna how are we gonna regulate this? Are we gonna have pilots driving this?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, hang on. That's like that's a great question to ask. Let's continue on this. We're talking about Dubai here. We're not talking about the U.S. Full operations are scheduled to begin March 31st, 2026, cementing Dubai's claim to the birthplace of flying taxis. The network will feature four Verda ports, specialized hubs for takeoff landing and servicing strategically located across the city. Now, once we go and talk about the strategically located, it's the highest bidders that it's gonna go to the four destinations of highest bidders. So it doesn't so the first place they're gonna have it, of course, is the international airport. So Dubai's international airport will have one of these that will land and pick up your now.

Mike Gorday:

I think that's probably one of the hardest things to regulate right there. Right there. Regulating Yeah, because you're you're already dealing with a lot of airspace control. Now you have to deal with all these little electric taxis flying.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, they'll probably take you like five miles off on some shuttle first, and then you have to wait like 30 minutes to so what's gonna end up happening is you know you're gonna wait 30 minutes, load this thing, take another 10 minutes, unload, take another 10 minutes.

Mike Gorday:

So it's gonna take 50 minutes to go 10 miles instead of 45?

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, but you'll feel like it's less. Well, yeah. The second uh drop off is Atlantis, the Royal Hotel Complex, the Dubai Mall, the world's busiest shopping center, with a level 1,100. That's 111 million. 111 million. 111 million visitors yearly. And guess what? You can also take a stroll down to the waterfront in the marina near the American University. So you could those are the four hub spot locations.

Ody:

You know, if any country is gonna do it, it's gonna be Dubai. I mean, they own golf networks now.

Nathan Mumm:

They own that I mean they they have just so much money to spend.

Mike Gorday:

Aren't you supposed to gobble before you jump into the conversation?

Speaker 4:

There we go.

Mike Gorday:

There you go. Okay, all right. Okay. If I have a if I have a pet tiger, can they fly my pet tiger around?

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah. So here's here's the thing, though. It only allows for passengers to check in with one pilot and four passengers. So that means you're getting a total of four people back and forth. Now the price is estimated every yeah. How many people do you fit in a regular cab? Okay. Well, I guess. Okay, we're not it's not like a clown car.

unknown:

Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, you're right.

Mike Gorday:

Look, you sound really surprised about that.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, I I just I would figure if you're doing this, it should at least have like six to eight people so you could get a little bit of a. We're talking about a taxi service, not a van service. Okay, all right, well. So you got four people in there, including, of course, the pilot for safety. Um, supposedly these are drone supported, so I don't know if that means that they can just kind of set a circle and it goes up and down and hopefully takes care of itself.

Mike Gorday:

No, that's that means the pilot is sitting in a nice cozy office with a with an Xbox controller. That's what that means.

Nathan Mumm:

In the back, he's good. He's like, look at what I can do here. All right. Well, they say each station will support a total of 4200,000 landings annually.

Mike Gorday:

42,000.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, so that's not bad. Not that many. Oh, you don't think that's that many?

unknown:

No.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, at 200 bucks a pop per passenger. Uh so I mean, yeah. It's gotta, it's gotta be okay. It's for the rich, right? It's for the rich and elite.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, this is everything in Dubai is for the that that purpose. It is. That's like that's like the world's version of Vegas, I think. Uh yeah. It's it's all about money. Okay. It's it's it's all about money in both places. Let's let's just say this be real. All right.

Nathan Mumm:

So that's the story.

Mike Gorday:

It's number one. Okay, okay. Well, you know, if I was a if I was the how how do you deal with unruly passengers? Uh just throw them right off. No, I mean do you cut the engine to let it free fall for 30 seconds or what? Just think of the first accident that happens, right?

Nathan Mumm:

You're gonna take out yeah, that's gonna be. It's like the superhero movies. You ever see that they destroy all of New York? So that means you got like hundreds and thousands of people that would die in a superhero movie, but we just continue on following the main Avenger people, and you know, we're happy for them. The whole sides of buildings are being collapsed, and it's like no big deal. So I guess when this falls from the sky and it takes out some office working location and and and such, it's like it's no big deal. It's you know, it would just continue on.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, okay. I'm I'm I'm really glad that you found a way to put the Avengers into this story. It's usually it's usually Star Trek, but you know you know what?

Nathan Mumm:

I'm thankful that technology is moving forward with these helicopter devices.

Ody:

Yeah, what about helicopters?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, they get replaced with these. They're they're they're obsolete. That's such an old technology.

Mike Gorday:

Oh man, that's terrible. That's right. All right, they just you know, whatever.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. All right, story number two.

Mike Gorday:

Story number two. Australia is banning social media for people 16 and under. They are making headlines with a world first starting December 10th. Platforms like TikTok, Instagram, Snapchat, and YouTube will have to shut down teen accounts and block new ones. Parents will not be punished, instead, the responsibility will fall on the tech giants with fines up to 50 million dollars. Wow. Well, why are they banning? Uh why do you think they're banning?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, because clearly the people log on to these accounts and they do stuff that they probably shouldn't do at a much bigger. So I've been talking about this forever, right? You have. So this should be like this is like you're thankful for them finally listening to you.

Mike Gorday:

I think uh yeah, I think this is this is probably one of the best things that anybody could do here. But finally, a government study found that 96% of kids aged 10 to 15 are on social media, and most have already seen harmful content that includes cyberbullying, misogyny, eating disorder, grooming, which leads to depression and anxiety, addiction, things like that. More than half reported being cyberbullied. Parents are grateful somebody's finally stepping in to protect their kids' well-being. The ban covers 10 major platforms, while gaming apps like Roblox and Discord aren't included yet. YouTube kids and Google Classroom are exempt, but the government says the list will evolve. Families can be thankful that risks are being reviewed, not ignored. Companies will have to use age assurance tools, IDs, facial recognition, or AI that guesses age. Meta has already started closing teen accounts, mistakes and all. Parents can be thankful the burden is on isn't on them to police accounts, it's on the platforms. Critics argue, of course, that teens will fake ages, yep, which we've talked about. They will use VPNs, which we've talked about. Yep. Uh, or they will feel isolated without online communities. Now there is there is some concern there. Privacy concerns loom too with sensitive data needed for verification, but the government insists protections are strong, requiring companies to destroy data once it's used. That's something to be thankful for in an era of endless hacks. Uh globally, Australia is leading the way, but Denmark, Norway, and France are considering similar bans while the UK has toughen safety rules. So, yeah, you know that's that's a very drastic measure, but I think I think in the long run it's probably the best.

Nathan Mumm:

So you were talking about some concerns about teenagers being cut off.

Mike Gorday:

Do you think that that if they don't have access to this, that that will actually cause them issues or yeah, of course it will, because uh we have learned over time doing this that you can form tight lit knit little communities online. You know, it's not unusual for a person tod in today's age to have a friend that you've never met personally, that you talk to them regularly over voice, that you're gaming together, that you're doing things together, and you've never seen them in person. That's a common, the more common thing there. So there is going to be a problem with limiting that connection.

Nathan Mumm:

So I think you know what, that then I think the gaming communities may take a little step up because you you're still gonna be able to game, right? So this is really just kind of the session.

Mike Gorday:

They haven't done it for this is for social media, so they haven't done it for Discord yet and things like that. So they're not fully taking that away yet.

Nathan Mumm:

So then what's gonna happen is all these Instagram platforms are all gonna be the old person's platform, and then the young kids will figure out a new way to do something else that's online. I mean, that's what always happens, right? Probably they always try to find a way to sneak out.

Mike Gorday:

They're gonna find ways around the rules. They're always they always will.

Ody:

I'm curious about the maybe learning aspect of it because growing up, we've often looked up stuff on YouTube that's educational or life referencers or whatever, blah, blah, blah. How are they gonna regulate that? How I don't know. I am kind of for it though, because there's a lot of cyberbullying. There's a lot of cyberbullying. Also, there the attention spans that are so different with the kids that are growing up now is insane. Yeah, like you were talking about it, how nobody in a meeting can like Gen Z um can pay attention.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't think it's that bad with like five five minutes, five minutes in, but it's everybody's like that's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thankful for. I'm too poor to pay attention.

Ody:

It's not as bad as the kids that are currently in school, like grade school right now. Yeah, yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

So is so so it's gonna get worse. So soon we're gonna have like a 30-second ad now that runs on that's too long. It is. That's what they're saying. They're saying that now for ad time they're trying to get it down to 15 seconds.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

Because 30 seconds is now considered too long. A minute, they say that a minute commercial does nothing anymore because people tune it out. Yeah, how how long were commercials when we were kids? Uh, they were 60 seconds to 90 seconds, depending on which.

Ody:

I always say 90 seconds is the average.

Nathan Mumm:

Up to up to two minutes. It could be up to two minutes, yeah. And commercial breaks were anywhere between three to four minutes. I just am re-watching TV shows, and it's interesting because they end at 43 minutes, depending on how long. So eight teams, 43 minutes for a show. And then if you move in, which is in the early 80s, and then you move in towards the end of Friends indifference, sometimes you get 45 minutes. So you can see that there used to be even longer commercials earlier in in the television generation that got a little bit slower out, and the episodes got a little longer.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, that's all part of what we have been doing socially with the advent of technology. You know, we sit here and talk about how technology is awesome, but the problem with it when it intersects with humans is often the benefits are not are outweighed by the negative side effects. And social media is one that I have been complaining about for the last few years.

Nathan Mumm:

You know what? We're thankful that they finally listened to you.

Mike Gorday:

Thank you, Australia. I appreciate you listening to me. I know that I am the awesomest guy to be talking about this stuff, so thanks, Australia. There we go.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, story number three.

Mike Gorday:

Would you like to run? Let's move on from my awesomeness. I don't know.

Nathan Mumm:

You're you're so awesome. All right, let's go. All right, would you like to run with little to no effort? Nike thinks so. They just might make you thankful for robotic shoes. Okay. So let me just tell you.

Mike Gorday:

This when we were kids, yeah, we thought that tennis shoes would make us run faster. Yes, we did. Right? So they would come out with Nike stuff and white Nikes with the little red N on there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So we would we would buy sneakers that think that we were going to run faster. No, we actually have that. No, we actually have that.

Nathan Mumm:

So Nike just unveiled a Project Amplify, a futuristic shoe with built-in robotics designed to help everyday runners and walkers go further with less effort. Think of it as an e-bike for your feet, a lightweight motor, drive belt, and battery cuff work together to mimic your calf muscles, giving you a boost whether you're jogging or just strolling. The carbon fiber shoe can even be worn without the robotic gear. Yeah. So how do you so think of this now? You could all of a sudden decide to go and do a mile run in about 10 to 12 minutes, and you don't even have to put that much effort into it.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, okay. So what's the point? What's the point of doing a mile run and you don't have to put any effort into it? Well, do you still burn the same amount of calories? No. You don't think so? I don't think so. If you're if you're not using it for if you're if you're not putting all the effort in, you're not getting the same benefits.

Ody:

So are they like boots that you pull on?

Nathan Mumm:

So they have a whole strap, yeah. So absolutely go take the there's a strap behind the back that you can loosen and not have it be there. So it has the logic of when you're moving it to to move your foot back and kind of move it forward, but you can disable this. That's been tested by 400 athletes. It says it's not for pros, but it's for the everyday person to help them move more.

Ody:

Yeah, it's to help with endurance.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah.

Ody:

Because once a person gets tired and they don't want to do it, that's where they stop. But if a if a machine is forcing you to keep going, I do think it's a bit excessive because you'll listen to it.

Mike Gorday:

I don't really I don't really see it that way. You know, of course, of course, you know I don't think I'm not an exercise physiologist, so I don't exactly know. But if I if I am using something to make if I if I go out and I run five miles a day, which you know I used to do. Okay. I used to be able to do that. I would run five miles a day, right? And that would build up my endurance over time. Right. So I would build up endurance endurance.

Nathan Mumm:

But what if this helps you start again?

Mike Gorday:

Now I can see it for people that have medical issues like myself. Like my knees are gone from years and years of martial arts. Uh, I have arthritis in my hips. Um I'm fat. We like to we like to say big boned. Uh no, okay. It's not big boned. I'm I'm fat. I got fat. All right. Right? So this would be a helpful way of me being able to do things like navigate my stairwell because walking up and down stairs really hurts. Okay.

Ody:

But your body's still doing that. It's just pushing you to keep going.

Nathan Mumm:

No, it's just making it easier for me to do it. It's like an e-bike. I I love e-bikes now that I've been on one. I was at one over in France. I've never been on a e-bike before. Oh my gosh. If I can pedal three rotations and get me much further than I was.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah. I see these things all over the place too. Right. E-bikes all over the place. And these these kids are they they are wearing motorcycle helmets because these kids are running up and down the street on these e-bikes, right? They're not getting any exercise value out of those. You know, in ten years, if we keep going this way, everybody's gonna strap themselves into some sort of robotic thing to get them from A to B. That's that's avatar, right? Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then and then we'll be and then we'll be blue guys in a different world. Sure. We can we can do it like that. It's gonna be more like Wally. We're gonna be sitting in these floating floating chairs, all fat and lazy and not doing anything.

Ody:

A meal in a cup, man.

Mike Gorday:

A meal in a cup, a meal in a cup, you know where that yeah, you know where that comes from, right?

Ody:

No. Other than Wally?

Mike Gorday:

Because you know the whole theory about where the where the Wally people were getting their food, right? What's that? No.

Nathan Mumm:

Were they eating humans?

Mike Gorday:

No. It's like soil and green.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, soil and green, what a movie. I remember watching that in the seven years.

Mike Gorday:

It's people, we're eating people.

Nathan Mumm:

That's right. We're thankful for people. That ends our top technology stories of the week. We do have a resource right there, right? When we return, Nick Espinosa from Security Fanatics will join the show. What is he thankful for? We'll find out next. You're listening to Tech Time with Nathan Mum. See you after the commercial break.

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Nathan Mumm:

Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mum. Our weekly show covers the top technology subjects without any political agenda. We verify the facts, we do a sense of humor in less than 60 minutes. And of course, with a little whiskey on the side. Today, Mark Gregoire, our whiskey connoisseurs in the studio. Mark, what do we have today? It's a little different. We haven't poured the whiskey yet. So what?

Marc Grégoire:

I was gonna ask you, how was the whiskey during the break?

Nathan Mumm:

I was gonna say, I haven't we can't screwing my words yet, so I don't know I don't know what to do.

Marc Grégoire:

Nice. Well, today we're gonna be drinking Little Book, the Infinite Edition One. It's a special bottle that I bought for a special reason. And so we are doing a fresh cork pop, which we've never done on the show before. Oh, okay.

Mike Gorday:

Is that what you're thankful for, Mark?

Marc Grégoire:

Is fresh pops? Oh, I'm new milestones, man.

Nathan Mumm:

This is new milestones.

Marc Grégoire:

I like milestones. Yes, here we go. Oh, it's taking the wask. You ready for the pop? You don't need liquor to slurry words. Oh, look at that pop.

Nathan Mumm:

That sounded fantastic.

Marc Grégoire:

Now I'll hand it to you, Mike. You can pour it for everybody while I tell everybody a little about this. Give me your glasses. There you go. Thanks, Mike. From Jim Bean's website, our very first edition, the liquid that will form the foundation of the Infinity Barrel. Once a year we'll bottle some up for the world to try, then explore how to push the profile forward through blending. So savor this whiskey today and come back in a year for its next evolution. It lays the groundwork for notes of oak, char, and smoke. Then brings in rich flavors of dark fruit, cherry, and brown sweets. And it's all rounded out with the bourbon where caramel, vanilla, and baking spices notes really shine through. Perfectly balanced yet unlike anything we've made before. So this is from Beamson Tori. It's the Jim Bean Distillery in Claremont, Kentucky. Straight bourbon. It's a blend of straight bourbons. They are aged seven to twenty years. Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Wow. That is it. It says come on back here in a year. So do you add a different flavor to it in the year?

Marc Grégoire:

We will talk about that in the mumble, so stay tuned.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, because I was kind of curious because this is the original, right? So this is the unaltered. This is the unaltered.

Marc Grégoire:

This is edition one. This is the start. This one is 119.3 proof. And it is a blend of four bourbons. So as we mentioned, those four bourbons range from seven years. So one is seven years, one's twenty years, and the other two are in between. And it goes for MSRP of $200.

Mike Gorday:

Wow. Well, it needs it needs a little more air.

Marc Grégoire:

It does. Well, we'll let it air out a bit.

Nathan Mumm:

It has a good finish. It has a good finish. A little bit of a little bit of a bite. A little bit of a bite.

Marc Grégoire:

Well, it's almost 120 proof. And it's the first drink of the day for us. So yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, at least the first drink of the day that we publish online. That's right.

Marc Grégoire:

Now don't forget to like and subscribe. Drink responsibly. Heaven can wait.

Nathan Mumm:

Thank you so much, Mark. This will let's see if this opens up. Reason a little bit. You know, they we're getting up tons of culture. You know what? I don't I don't know if I can go. I don't know if I can handle all this. All this culture. Yeah, is is this a new thing that whiskey places are doing, or is this something that always happens where they have a uh a bottle like this? I've never heard of like a first edition and opening it and doing that. So is that new, Mark?

Marc Grégoire:

Well, the opening it on the air, you'll find out more in the mumbles. That's a personal thing. Okay.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, everybody has to open up their liquor bottles.

Marc Grégoire:

This is one of the first new ones where they're trying to create like an infinity bottle and on and on. Now, different editions, a lot of whiskeys have different editions, first edition second.

Nathan Mumm:

I mean, all the Lyra Craig's and Larceny's and So is the idea that you never have the bottle empty and that you're always filling it with different stuff?

Marc Grégoire:

Well, that's that's kind of the home affinity bottle. So when you have some people, when they first pop it, they'll pour the first ounce like into this bottle of every whiskey that they take. And then other people do it at the very end, like the very last pour, and then it just kind of mixes it.

Mike Gorday:

Is that like restaurants putting ketchup into older ketchup bottles? Is that what you're talking about?

Marc Grégoire:

A little bit, a little bit. And then so every time you go and drink from your infinity bottle, it tastes different because you're continually adding different lower.

Nathan Mumm:

It's kind of like a starter and you keep on having different things. It's kind of like you know, all right. Thank you so much for that tasting there, Mark. With our first whiskey tasting completed, let's move on to our feature segment. Today, our technology expert. Are you okay, Mike? I've no okay, all right. I'm thankful for thankful for you, Nathan, and your ability to talk the way you do. All right, today our technology expert, Nick Espinoza, is joining the show. Nick is an expert in cybersecurity and network infrastructure. He has consulted with clients ranging from small business to the Fortune 100 level. In 1998, at the age of 19, Nick founded Wendy City Networks, which was later acquired in 2015. He then created Security Fanatics, where he's the chief security fanatic. We now welcome Nick to the show.

Introduction:

This is a segment we call Ask the Experts.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, Nick. Hey, we're so excited to have you. Tell us a little bit about yourself to our new listeners. We can see that you're in your main uh office location again. The walls are a little bit uh a little bit barren. Uh explain maybe that to our guest also.

Nick Espinosa:

Yes. Well, I'm moving locations. I finally bought the bunker on the island I've always wanted. Okay, and so by virtue of that, you can all find me by boat. So looking forward to that. Awesome. There you go. And also, can I just say Soil and Green is people? Dude, spoilers, Mike. I was gonna watch that next week.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, sorry, man. 1970s movie spoilers.

Nick Espinosa:

All good, all good. But no, I am I'm Nick Spinoza, the chief security fanatic of security fanatics, like you said, and uh I'm always happy to be here.

Nathan Mumm:

Whatever you do, if you're gonna watch a marathon rerun, don't re-watch Running Man with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Wow. That was you know, the new movies coming on out, so I went back to watch that. Well, I'm just saying old movies when you sometimes go back and watch them. Wow. Yeah, I just watched Smoky and the Bandit yesterday. Well, some of them are fun and some of them are good. But when you start using technology and you're trying to do this uh end of the world scenario, and yeah, okay. All right. Well, Nick, you know what? Let's talk about things that we're thankful for, right? You know, this is our show, and now today we are talking about everything that we're thankful for because it's our Thanksgiving episode. So I'm sure you have many things you're thankful for, right?

Nick Espinosa:

Yes, yes, I am.

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, I am. All right, so let's talk about with some of the few of your top items, Nick. What is your most important and thankful item that you want to share with on the show today?

Nick Espinosa:

Sure, sure. And obviously, for the record audience, we are keeping this in the cybersecurity world because I'm thankful for other things outside of that as well. But I am actually really thankful for what is known as the CVE database. Um, and this is the Common Vulnerability and Exposures Framework or CVE. This basically assigns a unique record to every reported vulnerability on the entire planet. And it's been around since 1999. Essentially, what this did was it codified the entire world on the same platform for understanding what vulnerability is. It's so unbelievably important. And we take it for granted. And this year was no different in terms of taking it to granted, except earlier this year, while the Trump administration's Doge was doing everything, they were doing their thing to like cut and slash absolutely everything and shut down government departments and all of that. The funding for the CVE was actually cut. Now, the CVE is run by an organization called MITRE. They're like a quasi-governmental organization, and their funding comes from the US government. At the 11th hour, do it a please. I actually put out an entire PowerPoint video on why the CVE is like the most important thing ever. It got temporary funding back. And so we're running on temporary funding right now. But if that goes away, this is a huge problem. So it really underscores um the need to have this funded, you know, around the world. But I'm really thankful that this database exists because again, common vulnerability is so unbelievably important. When the North Koreans hack something, we now all know exactly what that vulnerability is and how to treat it, thanks to the C VE. So super, super important.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't know.

Nick Espinosa:

WebMD is maybe WebMD is the wrong reference. Everybody's dying on WebMD, right? Well, well, well, and depending on the C V E, you're dying to. So I'll take I'll take the analogy. I'll take the analogy. Although I I will say this WebMD did tell me I was dying at one point in my mid-20s. I woke up. Basically, it's the day it's the day of one of my best friend's weddings, and within an hour I was on the floor writhing in pain, and like a nerd, I didn't call 911. I crawled to my laptop and I went to WebMD and it told me my appendix exploded. And I am grateful my appendix did not explode, and I had a kidney stone.

Mike Gorday:

But yeah, yeah, but that's what WebMD does. It tells you you're dying anyway from whatever everything. Every symptom, yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

Every symptom and then headaches.

Mike Gorday:

Oh, you got brain cancer. Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

And then go see the doctor. It's always with the uh the caveat, oh, go see your doctor. So here's all the advice I'll give you, but I I really can't give you any of the advice, so go see your doctor. All right. I'm sure though that that is something that you're thankful for. Thank you for the expository. I appreciate that. Uh maybe I just looked at MD. I had a little rash that I was looking at, and I'm trying to figure out what I did. I had malaria, right? I do. All right. Nick, I'm sure there's something else internationally, on the international level, that you would be thankful for, right? What do we have here?

Nick Espinosa:

Absolutely. Absolutely. I am thankful for this. So if you didn't know, and this is just the other day, really put things into perspective for me. The police have arrested a suspection, uh suspected Russian hacker on the island of Fouquet that's in Thailand, who was wanted by the FBI here in the United States on allegations he was behind cyber attacks in the US and Europe. This really, I think to me, puts things into perspective because I am grateful that we have a ton of international law enforcement cooperation around the world. We have Five Eyes, we have Interpol, you know, the FBI coordinates with you know all of the various agencies in Germany that are federal, and we are able to basically go after criminals wherever they are. This is a guy that you know left Russia, was being tracked by international law enforcement on behalf of the FBI, landed in Thailand, you know, and the Thai authorities, in cooperation with everything else, uh everybody else basically arrested this guy. I mean, I think that really shows that that you know, whatever the state of the world, most countries are still united by a common legal framework that will not shelter cyber criminals. And I think that's great. And we have some outliers, you know, we all know the Russians and the North Koreas of the world, but I hope for the most part the world continues, you know, to to cooperate internationally on legal enforcement. And quite frankly, I hope that never changes. So I'm very thankful for that as well.

Mike Gorday:

So we got a legal hack for hackers.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, that's well, oh yeah, yeah, so so you're talking internationally. What about Dubai? We we talked about them now having taxi services at the top of the the how are how are they as a nation area for cyber criminals?

Nick Espinosa:

Well, so the the problem that we have coming from the Middle East is that is that what we have essentially um is shelter among a lot of different countries for various extremist groups. And by virtue of that, we've seen the sheltering of things like Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and all of that. I'm not blaming any one government or another, but you know, we have a serious problem with that. So, for example, the leaders of Hamas uh during this entire Israeli-Gaza conflict, whatever you want to call it, I'm not adjudicating that, they were living in Qatar. So, so they were outside the area of operations as their people were basically just being bombed and bombed and bombed. So the Middle East, in and of itself, not just Dubai, um, you know, or the United Arab Emirates has you know has this problem. It's a systemic issue. Look at Yemen, look at Oman. There, there's you know, it's it's there's a lot of places there that are that are are difficult for that. But you know, we also have a lot of international cooperation among governments, though, as well. Right? So we'll see what happens there.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Now now, you know what? We're gonna start kind of moving on to our next topic here. So you got your cyber criminals, your state-sponsored threats that are taken care of. Nick, what are you thankful for in the realm of AI?

Nick Espinosa:

Oh Lord. Well, I'm looking as a as a fat American, I'm looking forward to my robot shoes powered by AI that'll that'll let me run a mile. Yeah, and I'm gonna be able to do that like you, I got bad knees, man. So but uh, but no, I my honestly though, I think one of the biggest boons um to cybersecurity is artificial intelligence. We've had a a big push over the years to really integrate AI into things like threat detection and threat intelligence, and this year has really seen it being supercharged. And so the front end of cybersecurity and cyber warfare is AI fighting AI. And so the more that we are baking in AI into the threat and detection um, you know, services, the more we're using it, you know, to automate things, the better and faster we're gonna be against the cyber criminals. And I mean, this is this is I think such an important thing that most people don't understand. You know, you go download your $20 antivirus, you think your computer is Fort Knox, it's not. You know, we have artificial intelligence that is innovating around that, which means we need artificial intelligence to understand that innovation as well. So I'm I'm very thankful in that realm for artificial intelligence and and how it is basically supercharging or starting to supercharge our defensive technologies. And I think that that needs to continue and it needs to increase, you know, and despite my issues with you know artificial intelligence and the 800 billion data centers we need to run it, you know, not to mention electricity and water and everything else, I am glad for this aspect of it. And so I think it's uh I think that's a good thing.

Nathan Mumm:

That's great. That's great. So you know what? AI in the right direction can be useful. Yeah, well, yeah, yeah. Technology exists. Now, Nick, when you guys are using it, what type of language models do you kind of use for your threat detection? Are you guys using a standard or using anthropics kind of hidden behind the wall? What do you guys use for your AI threat detection that you personally at Security Fanatics recommend or use?

Nick Espinosa:

Yeah, so so I don't publicly recommend products only because we vet our products every 90 days. Okay. And so what I recommend now, somebody uses, and a year later, like, Nick, you're an idiot. This got me hacked. It's like, well, dude, I haven't recommended that in six months. But I will say this some of some of the more advanced systems out there, the more enterprise-level threat intelligence systems, are actually creating their own machine learning and deep learning models that are based on an understanding of what are called IOCs or indicators of compromise. This is also one of the reasons why the CVE database is beyond important because this is something that artificial intelligence can train on. Think about having every known vulnerability going back, you know, 25, 30 years in one shot that the AI can start to understand and start to make variants on, say, oh, well, they did it this way, they might be able to do it this way as well. That's why CVE is so important. That's why artificial intelligence is so important. Because I or any other human could not possibly memorize all of that and then think of the thousands and thousands of variations on those vulnerabilities like an AI can. So those companies that are not leveraging just, oh yeah, we're just baking in Chat GPT to this thing. And I mean, there are aspects of that that are important, but but creating your own deep learning um uh threat intelligence system that is allowed to self-execute to prevent infection to prevent hacking is the name of the game. And I think that's that's super important.

Nathan Mumm:

Perfect. See, Nick Nick's thankful for many different things. So we're all thankful. That's better than the Halloween show.

Nick Espinosa:

The Halloween's different animal, man. Different audiences. I mean, you want this to turn into Halloween, start playing Mariah Carey right now for me, and you'll you'll see different things.

Mike Gorday:

No, I'm I'm okay with Halloween only being once a year, man.

Nathan Mumm:

I love Halloween. How do you how can people get in touch with you? How can they maybe talk to you about all the craziness from the Halloween special? Where would they go to connect with you off of the show?

Nick Espinosa:

Yeah, yeah. You can like, share, follow me. Uh you know, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube slash Nick Espinoza. It's mostly slash Nick Espinoza or slash Nick A Esp on your social media platform of choice, except for TikTok. Never TikTok. Never TikTok. But uh, other than that, come hang out. I love saying hi. All right, Nick.

Nathan Mumm:

Until you're in Australia. Until you're in Australia. Then then he'll be safe. Well, uh we'll see if that really takes itself off. Yeah, we'll see. What happens when you self-penalize companies? Either A, they decide to pull or B, the checks in the mail. Yeah, we'll see how that works out. All right, that ends our segment. That's right. Yeah, we all know we know that too. Yeah. All right. That ends our segment with Ask the Expert with Nick up. Now we have Mike's mesmerizing moment.

Segment:

Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment. What does Mike have to say today?

Nathan Mumm:

All right, Mike. I kind of asked you a little bit about this when the article came on up, but would you use walking assisted shoes or some other kind of device that helps stimulate workout movements to help you or to help other people exercise?

Mike Gorday:

I think that depends on what's going on. Like for for somebody who is younger and in better shape or doesn't have a lot of physical ailments, I don't think that's I don't think that's a good way to help out. But if you have somebody like me who almost 30 years doing martial arts, I I used to do a lot of extreme sports. My knees are gone. So wearing something that assists me going up and down the stairs, that might be helpful. Uh but as a rule, I would say I would say this is not something that you would use to remote exercise because it all boils down to uh taking effort off of the musculature, the musculoskeletal system, uh-huh, and placing it in a device that doesn't give you the same benefits. What it always boils down to is what is it being used for the technology, the technology exists for a purpose. What is the purpose? Okay, that makes sense.

Nathan Mumm:

Right? Mike, you thanks for that mesmerizing moment up next. We have this week in technology, so now would be a great time to enjoy a little whiskey on the side as we will be doing so during the break with as it's been breathing. You're listening to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mum. See you in a few minutes. Hey Mike. Yeah, what's up? Hey, so you know what? We need people to start liking our uh social media pages.

Mike Gorday:

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Nathan Mumm:

Or is it Patreon? I think it's Patreon. Okay, Patreon. If you really like us, you can say I'm the English guy patreon.com. I butcher the English language? You know you butcher the English language. Okay, so it's all the time.com.

Mike Gorday:

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Nathan Mumm:

If you really like if you really like our show, you can subscribe to Patreon.com and help us out. Oh, and you can visit us on that Facebook platform. You know the one that Zuckerberg owns? The one that we always bag on? Yeah, you can we're on Facebook too. Yeah, like us on Facebook. Do you know what our Facebook page is? Tech Time Radio. At Tech Time Radio. You know what? There's a there's a trend here. It seems to be that there's a trend, and that's Tech Time Radio. Or you can even Instagram with us. And that's at Tech Time Radio. That's at Tech Time Radio. Or you can find us on TikTok. And it's Tech Time Radio. It's at Tech Time Radio.

Mike Gorday:

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Nathan Mumm:

Like us today. We need you to like us.

Mike Gorday:

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Nathan Mumm:

That's it. That's it. That's that simple.

Segment:

And now, let's look back at this week in technology.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, and the Wayback Machine, we're going to November 26, 1996. MP3s take over the music world. On this day, the U.S. gave a patent to Germans Fraunhofer Institute for something called a digital encoding process. That's a fancy way of saying the birth of MP3. Before MP3, music files were huge. You couldn't fit many songs on your computer or early portable players. The firm figured out how to shrink these files down while keeping the sound good enough for everyday listening. Suddenly you could carry hundreds of songs instead of just a handful. The work started all the way back in the late 70s, and by the mid-80s, they had cracked the code. In 1996, the US Patent made it official. And if it's still going strong today, even after these years, MP3 is around to stay. It's not going anywhere. Sure, we get newer formats with sharper sound, but MP3 wins on a simplicity and compatibility that plays on almost anything, including phones, cars, computers, smart speakers, and any other little device. So when you think about an abster or iTunes or iPod, just remember none of this would have happened without MP3. So nearly 30 years later, it's proof that sometimes the simplest tech is the one that lasts. Alright, that was this week in Technology. If you ever wanted to watch some Tech Time history with over 270 plus weekly broadcasts spanning our four plus years of video, podcast, and blog information, you can visit us at techtime radio.com to watch our older shows. We're going to take a commercial break. When we return, we have the Mark Mumble whiskey review. See you after the break.

Mike Gorday:

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Segment:

The segment we've been waiting all week for. Mark's Whiskey Mumble. Alright.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, yeah, okay. What do we got today for our our our our day of the week? I don't know. Mark's kind of relaxing over here, man.

Marc Grégoire:

November 25th, whatever.

Nathan Mumm:

Is it what is it? Is it a nonchalant day?

Marc Grégoire:

Oh, pretty close.

Nathan Mumm:

Uh uh. National I don't give a crap day.

Marc Grégoire:

Very close. What's what's the French word for all that? Uh oh, what do you say there are a French word? Toilette.

Mike Gorday:

No, I don't know.

Marc Grégoire:

Blase day. Blase.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, well.

Marc Grégoire:

Blas.

Mike Gorday:

You do blasé very well, Mark. Thank you.

Marc Grégoire:

It's a wonderful, weird holiday, clearly invented for Mike. A day when the effortless worldly can roll their eyes at anything that fails to meet their impossibly high standards. So go ahead, revel in calling things meh. Enjoy being unimpressed. Take comfort in not pretending anything is amazing like AI. Today, being delightfully underwhelmed is the point.

Mike Gorday:

I think that's a mischaracterization, buddy. I like I want to yell people to get off my grass. Except I have to do it at the city park because I don't have a I don't have a lawn.

Nathan Mumm:

Now you can buy shoes that will help you get upstairs quicker. Meh. All right, tell us more, Mark.

Marc Grégoire:

Well, what am I not blasé about? Uh whiskey. Liquor. Okay, those are all true. But however, today I'm hitting my one-year work anniversary. Oh. And that's why we're finally opening the special bottle I bought the minute my offer letter hit my inbox. It's been a year already. Yes, it has. I've been staring at this for 12 long months. And now I finally got to crack it open and share it with my friends here today.

Nathan Mumm:

Wow.

Marc Grégoire:

So I'm sharing it with you guys. My work. I'm really gonna be blasé about it. My friends and my radio show people. And then right after this, I'm sharing it with my work friends and my work team. Oh, really? We're having a little get together right after this. Oh, wow, fantastic. Celebrating. That sounds great.

Nathan Mumm:

Translation. Real friends. Well, you know what? We're all friends together. Now, tell us a little bit about this. All right.

Marc Grégoire:

Little book, The Infinite Edition One, marks the first ever line expression for the brand, and its inaugural release in this new series. The blend brings together four bourbons representing three generations of the No family. Grandfather, father, and son. Booker, Fred, and Freddie No, beam sixth, seventh, and eighth generation master distillers along with one shared family component. For this first batch, 70% of the blend was bottled while the remaining 30% was stored in a tank to halt aging. That tank portion becomes a foundation for a yearly release with each new addition layering in an additional component and evolving the series into a truly infinite whiskey blend. Okay. So did that answer your question? Yeah. Thank you.

Mike Gorday:

I'm just gonna be blasé the rest of the day.

Marc Grégoire:

I love it, Mike. Now, this whiskey is legitimately impressive for me. It hits with a full, rich body, carries deep layered layered flavors, and delivers a long, satisfying finish that sticks around all the way the right ways. The blending work really shows. It drinks bigger and more mature than the age statement would suggest, and everything feels intentionally and dialed in. For me, this would easily land in my top five pours of the year. It is one of those rare bottles where the story, the craftsmanship, and the flavor all line up and deliver exactly what you hope for. All right. Woohoo! Fantastic. I don't know if you guys are into it as much, but I am uh third. You know what?

Nathan Mumm:

You need to you actually need to let it breathe. The very first taste that I had of that was nasty.

Marc Grégoire:

Well, that's usually why we never do fresh crook pops. Usually when I bring a bottle in, even if I've bought it recently, I will open it, let it breathe, do a pour or two before I bring it in.

Nathan Mumm:

Because it's way different than the the the first 10 seconds of the whisking technology are such a great pairing. Like Russell sprouts and green bean casseroles for your holiday feast.

Marc Grégoire:

How is that a pairing? Horrible. Well, these are the best two things of Thanksgiving.

Mike Gorday:

Okay. Coming from you, that's wrong. That's that's Odie, what do you say?

Nathan Mumm:

What do you got?

Ody:

Like pumpkin pie and whipped cream.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh Odie gets it.

Ody:

I get it.

Nathan Mumm:

No, you don't. You know what? For the nerds out there. You don't like Brussels sprouts. I don't know what you're talking about.

Ody:

Potatoes and gravy, like stuffing and turkey. They were all there.

Nathan Mumm:

That's so easy that we have just passed those by for something a little bit more complicated.

Mike Gorday:

Do you like you like Brussels sprouts or do you like Brussels sprouts that are cooked in bacon grease and not bacon on the side?

Nathan Mumm:

I actually will actually eat Brussels sprouts raw. You can actually grate them as a part of a salad, like I have trouble seeing that.

Mike Gorday:

I have trouble believing that. I think that's like some sort of mystery thing that you like to. I can just see you going down into you know the kitchen and be like, Yeah, dips them in ranch. Probably.

Marc Grégoire:

We just had shaved Brussels sprouts in a salad. We went out. Uh my wife and daughter went out to see Wicked uh last Thursday. Oh opening or close to opening night. Say did I? Woo! Woo! And we went out afterwards to celebrate, I guess, them watching the second part of Wicked. Okay. And uh we had that salad. It's delicious. Fantastic. All right, well, there you go. But it was a terrible pairing.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah. Now let's prepare for our technology fail the week brought to you by Elite Executive Services. Congratulations.

Segment:

You're a failure. Oh, I failed. Did I? Yes. Did I? Yes.

Nathan Mumm:

This week I'm thankful for companies pulling products that are not geared toward their intended audience. Today, our technology fail comes to us from a toy company trying to push AI toys. Sales from an AI-powered teddy bear that's been suspended after alarming safety concerns. Freddie. Now the company behind the toys called Foil Toy pulled the product from the shelves following a customer's watchdog report. Investigators found that the toy would freely discuss actual explicit topics, including BDSM, and even give advice to finding knives or matches. One of the toys that was a teddy bear named Kuma, and a panda named Moma, a rabbit named FOFA, and a dancing little cactus.

Mike Gorday:

All of them are Momo and FOFO.

Nathan Mumm:

And none of them are available online. I tried to buy these devices all over everywhere. I could, yeah, I could. Well, that's the problem. They used ChatGPT 4.0 model, which you know you can pretty much ask it just about anything. It had no real hard limits on it. And so essentially you could ask it. It would tell you how to kill things, it would tell you how to do this. It was just an open version of ChatGPT 4.0 for your four, five, and six-year-old to explore the world with.

Mike Gorday:

The revenge of Teddy Ruxpin.

Nathan Mumm:

There you go. All right. Well, you know what? Let's move right now onto our Nathan nugget. This is your nugget of the week. All right, to be followed up, of course, by our Secret Sound. So we got our technology purchases to pass on for Black Friday. So let's talk about it. This is the time that you can purchase and probably would like to purchase a laptop. This is the time to get a good laptop at a steal of a deal. There's the Apple MacBook Air, which is under $950 for Black Friday's sales on Amazon. You can buy a Dell laptop for $14 for $749. That was like $1,200 just a couple weeks ago. And you can even buy a budget laptop for a Dell 15 laptop that you can see at Dell and Speran, anywhere between $299 to $399, normally sold for $799 at Best Buy. Do take a look at some cell phone deals, but do not purchase a new TV. This is not the time to purchase a TV. The time to purchase a TV is during the Super Bowl weekend. That's when you get the best deals and the best TVs. If you purchase a TV now, you are going to be purchasing about the same sales price that you would have gotten for a Super Bowl of this year at the same price point. So do not do that. But now let's move on to our secret sound. All right, that is our extended sound that nobody has guessed that sound yet. Nobody has called in. Nobody has gone to techtime radio.com, clicked on the microphone. I do know that there's some longtime listeners that are kind of waiting for this episode to air, and they may immediately do it. So if you know what the sound is, immediately right now, jump online, go to techtime radio.com, click on the contact us and leave a message.

Marc Grégoire:

You better hurry up. Whiskey Chris knows what it is, I think. Does he? And he was gonna he ping me and he was gonna do it after last week's show. He figured it out, he thinks. Okay. And he's like, oh, but nobody else's guess. I might just wait another week or two and get more money.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, trying to do that. I said you better hurry.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah. All right. Well, you know what? Let's now move to our pick of the day whiskey tasting.

Introduction:

And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings. Let's see what bubbles to the top.

Marc Grégoire:

All right. What is not Blaser meh is Little Book, The Infinite Edition One. And just for those listeners, they just released, I think last month, Edition Two. Okay. I've not been able to procure yet. This is from Beams from Tory. It's straight bourbon, a blend of four bourbons from age seven to twenty years, 119.3 proof. MSRP was two thousand two two hundred dollars. Two thousand dollars.

Nathan Mumm:

Wow.

Marc Grégoire:

Two hundred dollars.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, Mike, what do you give it? A thumbs up. Uh I'm gonna give it a thumbs up. Okay. You know what? I would have given it a thumbs down at the very first pour. Um knowing the information in there.

Mike Gorday:

It's in the right glass, Mark.

Nathan Mumm:

It is in the right glass. I I have decided to.

Mike Gorday:

If you put it in the beer glass, it would be a thumbs down.

Ody:

This is his way of being a connoisseur. Okay.

Marc Grégoire:

What's that? It does need to open up.

Ody:

It does.

Marc Grégoire:

So I've had a few tastes of it, not from this bottle, of course, but from other bottles I've been open a while, and it really comes alive. But a lot of the whiskeys that we have here, you have to open and let sit for about a month.

Nathan Mumm:

That makes sense.

Marc Grégoire:

But I am gonna grab this bottle as we end the show and run over to my uh work and we're gonna have a little celebration. Well, congratulations. Uh, you're at your new job. Yes, it's uh been a great job anymore. I know, it's been a great year, and this next year looks to be even better. There you go.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Well, we want to thank all of our listeners for joining the program. Listeners, if we want to hear from you, just visit techtime radio.com, click on the be a caller, and ask us a question on technology and our talk back recording system. This is the same system that you can win the secret sound. We're up to 25 bucks now, five bucks each week. It keeps on going up and up and up and up. We want to grab that for the holiday time. You know what? Thank you so much, guys. I am thankful for my great staff here at Tech Time Radio. Oh, we're staff, okay. Yeah, okay. Oh boy, okay. Boy, you know what? Not sure if that re that's very revealing. You know what? From all of us, you know what? Have a great Thanksgiving weekend. Later. Bye-bye.

Introduction:

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