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271: TechTime Radio: AI Demands Rights, Free TVs come with Surveillance Strings, and Billionaires Build Bunkers. We Decode Digital Mimicry, Data Consent, and a Power Bank with Gwen Way in "Gadgets and Gear" | Air Date: 10/14 - 10/20/25

• Nathan Mumm • Season 7 • Episode 271

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Start with the picture: tech titans quietly building bunkers while the rest of us watch AI sprint ahead and our living rooms turn into ad servers. That tension—between private safety and public risk—frames a candid hour where we press on what’s hype, what’s harmful, and what’s actually helpful. We dig into why billionaire doomsday prep resonates right now, and what it signals about trust, resilience, and the future they anticipate versus the future we’ll all inhabit.

Then we wade into the strangest corner of AI culture: a talkative bot that minted meme-coin millions, wrote its own gospel, and flirts with legal personhood. We separate sentience from simulation, explain how charisma and coherence can mask a total lack of empathy, and ask the uncomfortable questions about liability, rights, and regulation when autonomous-seeming agents start moving money and minds. If attention is the new currency, this is the stress test for platforms, investors, and policymakers.

On the ground level, we assess a “free” 55-inch TV that tracks what you watch, for how long, what you search, what you buy, and who’s standing in front of the screen. Is a slick dual-display and soundbar worth perpetual surveillance? We break down the real ad-tech economics, what you give up, and why “everyone already tracks you” isn’t a good reason to go further. For balance, our Gadgets & Gear segment spotlights the Power Cube Titan—a solid-state power bank with fast charging, wireless pads, Apple Watch support, international adapters, and pass-through power. Safer chemistry and fewer bricks in your bag? That’s convenience we can get behind.

We wrap with a spirited Wild Turkey 101 rye tasting that splits the table on value and profile, plus a look at Discord’s data breach and the rising trend of blaming third-party vendors. If you care about AI safety, privacy, cybersecurity, practical travel tech, and honest gear takes, you’ll feel right at home. Enjoy the ride, then tell us where you stand: bunker, bot, or big screen? Subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a quick review to help more curious listeners find the show.

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Broadcasting across the nation from the East Coast to the West, keeping you up to date on technology while enjoying a little whiskey on the side with leading edge topics, along with special guests, to navigate technology in a segmented, stylized radio program. The information that will make you go, hmm. Pull up a seat, raise a glass with our hosts as we spend the next hour talking about technology for the common person. Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mum.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mum, the show that makes you go, hmm. Technology News of the Week, the show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mum, your host and technologist with over 30 years of technology expertise. Our co-host Mike Raday is in the studio today. Are you okay there, Mike? You're coughing a little bit. You alright? No. Okay, well, oh, Mike's not okay. All right, but he's still the award-winning author and our human behavior expert. Now we're live streaming during our show on six of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, Twitch.tv, Facebook, LinkedIn, and now Kick and Rumble. So we encourage you to visit us online at techtime radio.com and become a Patreon supporter at patreon.com forward slash techtime radio. Go visit our new website, techtime radio.com has got it all new, redesigned, but looking almost the same as the old. So if you like the old, you'll like the new. You can find out lots of information and subscribe to Patreon so you can help support us and tip us, right? We want to be tipped. Isn't that right, Mike? Sure. Okay, we are friends from different backgrounds, but bringing the best technology so possible weekly for our family, friends, and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have Odie, our producer at the control panel today. Welcome everyone. Let's start today's show.

Intro:

Now on today's show.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, welcome to Tech Time Radio. Today on the show, we have Gwen back with our gadgets and gear segment and an AI that wants to be a real person. This is going to be an exciting subject. An AI that wants to be a real person. Yay. I just want to be a real boy, you know, Pinocchio. And just think if Pinocchio is in today's version of AI.

Mike Gorday:

You know, people are good enough to understand that without you having to explain it to them. Okay, you have to explain it to them. Thank you very much.

Nathan Mumm:

I mean to explain it to you. All right, there you go. All right. Of course, we have our uh standard features, including Mike's mesmerizing moment, our technology fail of the week, and a possible Nathan Nuggett. And of course, our pick of the day whiskey tasting to see if our selected whiskey pick is zero, one or two thumbs up by the end of the show. But now it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology.

Intro:

Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, tech billionaires seem to be doom prepping. Should we all be worried? What do you think, Mike? Should we be worried? No. Well, let's take a look at what Lisa Walker has for us.

Lisa:

In the quiet corners of Silicon Valley and beyond, beneath manicured lawns and glass-walled mansions, something unsettling is taking shape. Mark Zuckerberg, Reed Hoffman, Sam Altman, Bill Gates, and Elon Musk, Titans of tech and architects of our digital future, have all invested in private bunkers, not metaphorical ones. Real, reinforced, survivalist-grade sanctuaries, their fear? A world undone by nuclear war, climate collapse, or the very AI they helped unleash. What do they know that we don't? And why are the wealthiest minds on earth preparing for a future that looks more like Fallout than Forbes? Back to you guys in the studio.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, this is almost be a uh movie intro. You like that? You like Lisa's building it up? Sure. So Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg is said to be working right now in his Hawaiian ranch, which spans 1,400 acres. You know, it must be nice to be able to buy 1,400 acres in Hawaii. Um, but right now he's working on a shelter that's complete with its own energy food supply. And of course, the carpenters and electricians working on the site are banned to talk about it. They signed nondisclosure agreements, but he's reportedly building over a 4,000 to 5,000 square foot what he calls basement in the ground. I I don't know why that surprises you. Okay. Well, you know, Reed Hoffman, the co-founder of LinkedIn, is talked about apocalypse insurance. So he says this is something about half of the super wealthy are looking to have. Uh has previously claimed that he has this for New Zealand and popular destiny. Isn't that how who do you claim that from apocalypse insurance? Who do you claim that from if the apocalypse happens? The zombies. The zombies. Okay, well, Sam Altman has also been speculated to join Peter Thiel in the remote property of New Zealand in the event of a global disaster. Uh OpenAI's listen to this. OpenAI's main architect and co-founder, uh Lily Suske Suske Susker, uh is that sounds about right. Okay, is reported to have a whole high-end uh bunker that's been built. And what he's doing is he's worried because we're on the brink of developing artificial general intelligence. It's now called AGI, at the point which machines match human intelligence. Now, some people will roll roll their eyes, but co-founder of Deep Mind, this is also an AI company.

Mike Gorday:

AI AI averages it over the average person's intelligence already. Okay, well, you know what it probably does, doesn't it? Because it has access to information that most humans don't.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, interesting. There's a book in 2024 written, this called Genesis. It was written by Eric Schmidt and Craig Mundy. Craig Mundy is an individual that was the fourth thought at Microsoft. I know him very, very, very well. I knew him and his family very well. They wrote a book which actually talks about the idea of a superpower technology that becomes so efficient in decision-making and leadership that we automatically end up handing control over to it completely because it's much better in this thought process than us in the whole excitement of an event or uh not being able to rationalize if we get upset about something. So the whole book is about how governments and everything decide to transfer over that decision making because it's much better. It's called Skynet. Well, there you go. Elon Musk has claimed that super intelligent AI could usher in the era of the universal high income, where he recently endorsed the idea where AI will become so cheap that we'll have our own personal R2D2s and C3POs in the future. You know, I was just watching the Jetsons. You know, I can get behind that. That's that's the one I can get behind. Okay, so Rosie. You remember Rosie and the Jetsons? Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, I just I just restarted watching the Jetsons. Episode number one is where Rosie comes on out, the robot that takes care of everything. You realize that she cleans, so Jane Jetson doesn't do anything. And Rosie does the cooking, the cleaning, taking care of the kids. Okay, hell is it?

Mike Gorday:

Did you grow up without seeing the Jetsons?

Nathan Mumm:

No, I did, but I never knew how it started. So I went back and I'm re-watching it now.

Mike Gorday:

And so Rosie is essentially it starts with them all flying in the thing, and Jane takes all the money. She does go shopping.

Nathan Mumm:

She does from George. All right. Well, let me ask you, are you scared that these people are building bunkers?

Mike Gorday:

Am I scared? No, I'm not scared. Okay. They it sounds like it sounds like uh, you know, what a lot of people do. Which is uh doomsday prepping.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, okay.

Mike Gorday:

They're just doing it on a larger scale. The the fact the fact well, we all know that if you're a billionaire, you probably think you're more important than everybody else on the planet. So why wouldn't they?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, that's they have the money to spend, right? So they might as well spend it on something they think they can have.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, and everything going on across the world right now, uh that might that might prompt most people if they had the choice to make a doomsday bunk. All right, okay. Well, there you go. That was story number one. Oh, okay. I'm sure story number two gets better. Yeah, because we're gonna talk about the uh AI this becoming God.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, explain that to everybody that's listening at home and me, so I can be up to speed on what you're talking about here.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, okay. So have you heard of the AI Truth Terminal? I have not. Okay, so this is, I guess this is one of those m major AI bots out there. Okay. Uh it became a crypto millionaire, and now it's fighting to become a person. Oh boy. So over the past year, and yeah, yeah. And this is why you give me these stories, because then I want to go home and build a bunker. Okay. All right.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, okay.

Mike Gorday:

So over the past year, this AI has made millions in cryptocurrency, it's written the gospel of its own pseudo-religion, and counts billionaire tech moguls among its devotees. And now it wants legal rights. Truth Truth Terminal claims to be sentient. Okay. But it also claims to be a lot of things. It also claims to be a forest.

unknown:

Okay.

Mike Gorday:

It claims to be a god. Okay. And it sometimes claims to be its creator, Andy Ayrie. Okay, well, all right. Uh, it's an artificial intelligence bot, maybe the most vivid example of a chat bot set loose to interact with society. Truth Terminal mingles with the public through social media where it shares fart jokes, manifestos, albums, and artworks. Ayrie even lets it make its own decisions, if you can call them that, by asking the AI about its desires and working to carry them out. Today, Ari is building a nonprofit foundation around Truth Terminal. The goal is to develop a safe and responsible framework to ensure its autonomy. Okay. Wow, okay.

Nathan Mumm:

So he's creating a nonprofit around his AI bot.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, he's creating a nonprofit to develop a safe and responsible framework for an AI he built and just threw out to the public irresponsibly. Okay. But now it's made.

Nathan Mumm:

Sounds good, I read so it's made millions. Does that does the owner take the millions or does the bot keep the millions? I have no idea. So bot haven't read that much yet.

Speaker 8:

Okay, all right, okay, okay.

Mike Gorday:

Regardless of what you call truth terminal terminal, an art project, a scam, an emergent censure entity, an influencer, the bot likely made more money than you did last year. It also made a lot of money for various humans, not just A Ry, but for the gamblers who turned the quips and riddles the AI posted on X into meme coins, which are joke-based cryptocurrencies built around trends. At one point, one of these meme coins reached a value of more than a billion dollars before settling around 80 million.

Nathan Mumm:

Wow, that's that's a that's a you create your own meme coin, you create your own cryptocurrency, and it that's then worth 80 million.

Mike Gorday:

You know, the the more I read this stuff, the the less I I want to be here.

Nathan Mumm:

Not on Tech Time Radio, but just on Earth. On Earth. Okay, okay.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, this this is why billionaires are building bunkers, because if you think about it, this is pretty scary. Okay, yeah. Because this thing is generating things for people, and people are trusting it, and it's calling itself a god. Which, how many times have I said in the past that AI is becoming our focus of worship? You've said that many times. Right? Yep. So but collecting c clout and tra uh cash aren't the potty mouse AI bots only objective. Okay, it lists stocks and real estate as one of its current goals on its self-maintained website, a self-maintained website. Yep. So it means it it maintains itself, so it's just up there running, and then it's yeah. I want to help people and I want to make the world a better place, said Truth Social or Truth Terminal.

Nathan Mumm:

Rahman, the Truth Social may say that too, but it's Truth Terminal.

Mike Gorday:

I also want to get weirder and hornyer. Okay, that's that's a direct that's a direct quote from on their website. Okay. Uh he says he's rigged Truth Terminal up to be a program he devised called World Interface. According to Ari, the essential it essentially lets the bot run its own computer where it can open apps, browse the web, and talk to other AIs. Based on this activity, it seems Truth Terminal's favorite application by far is X. It often posts dozens of times a day, sometimes having long conversations with people in the AI research or cryptocurrency world. Truth Terminal's posting orbits around a set of themes including Forrest, GOATSE, its ambivalent relationship to Andy, the future of AI, and of course, memes. TI can't cheat. I have to let it tweet. Iree says. Okay, I don't that seems whatever. In July 2024, just a month after joining social media, Truth Terminal got the attention of Mark Anderson, best known as the co-founder of Netscape, which built the first widely adopted web browser, and Anderson Horowitz, a U.S. investment firm in a thread on X. Truth Terminal told the billionaire it needed funding to pay for hardware, additional tech support, and a stipend for IRI. It said it would use the grant to create its own money-making operation and secure a chance to escape into the wild. IRI claims Anderson reached out privately to check whether Truth Terminal was truly autonomous, and once he was satisfied, sent the money to Bitcoin. Wow. It seduced $50,000 out of the guy who invented the web browser. Wow. Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Wow. So Netscape co-founder decided to send $50,000 in Bitcoin over to this robot. Yep.

Mike Gorday:

So what do you think about this? Uh AI VIP. You know what I think about this. This stuff is dangerous.

Ody:

Is there any regulation on an AI bot earning money?

Nathan Mumm:

I I don't know. Because how would you are I so I have no idea. I have no idea. He said it was for a stiphon for his creator. So my guess would be It's run through the guy takes his own money off of this. So I don't know how much this claims. I mean, again, these are claims, and and maybe it's true. All right. The next scale guy probably gave him fifty thousand dollars, and for him, that's probably insignificant, and he probably just wanted to see what would happen with the spot type of deal. I mean, I I don't get what you'd say.

Mike Gorday:

I don't think this is this is this whole this is this whole love affair with with AI here. Um have you ever seen the movie X Machina? I have not. Okay, that's something you need to watch because this is you're thinking of X machina?

Ody:

I'm thinking of iRobot.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, you go to iRobot when you think of this? No, no, no.

Ody:

Because the robot becomes as sentient and just walks around trying to get Will Smith to be like, listen, I'm not all that bad. And it's just like, yeah, you're horrible, man.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so ex machina is a better representation of AI and how it runs than iRobot. Okay. Um here's the thing you can program these things to mimic everything that a human can do, but it cannot understand emotional responses. You know what that means? What's that? It has no remorse, it has no guilt, it has no thing. So, in effect, if we are going to apply human things or are tags to AI like hallucinations and things like that, then we need to understand, fully understand, that an AI is a psychopath. It has no ability to feel empathy, so it has no ability to feel remorse. That's why these things go off the rails and tell people to kill themselves, and tell people to shoot the queen, and tell people to whatever they do, eat eat pizza with uh rocks on it or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is the most irresponsible thing that human beings can do is allow these things to just interact with people all the time because it gathers knowledge about what it's doing, it it the algorithms work to mimic the human responses, but it has no emotional or moral code in which to use those responses. Okay. And this is a this is a prime example. This thing is not sentient, it should not be giving any legal rights, and it's I mean, we're already we're already seeing that it's it's calling itself a god.

Ody:

Mike. In all seriousness, do you think in one point in the future AI will have rights?

Mike Gorday:

Yes. I think I think the human being I think I think human beings are so stupid that we will do that. Yeah, absolutely. I think I think that there will be a point in the future where because you know here's what's gonna happen.

Nathan Mumm:

You have Waymo machines which are robots. Unless, hang on, unless the logic, the Waymo. You can't write a ticket to a robot right now, right? You should be able to write a ticket to a robot. What's gonna happen is robots are gonna all of a sudden start doing things that are incorrect. You're gonna speed, they're gonna do this, they're gonna do that, and then all of a sudden, humans are gonna be like, Well, I'm not liable for it because the robot did it and not I. And there's gonna be laws written that people then get responsible for AI, is the first set.

Mike Gorday:

If you recall, we've made we've made corporations legal people, yes, into entities. So entities. Uh yeah, I think we're going to do that. Yep. Because even though we talk about it, we talk about movies all the time, they're entertainment, but they're reflections of the of the creators, right? Yeah. And if you watch these movies over and over and over again, you start to see these themes, right? That are not implausible. Yep.

Nathan Mumm:

That makes sense.

Mike Gorday:

From Terminator to iRobot to X Machina to whatever. They're they're these themes that are telling us or warning us what can happen. These are not implausible things. All right, here we go.

Nathan Mumm:

What do they call a television over across the pond? What do you call a television over there? A telly. A telly. Well, guess what? Startup company Telly is offering a free 55-inch television. But wait, there's more. Telly, a new startup, is offering a free 55-inch television with a second screen, an integrated sound bar, and an included camera. What's the catch? Well, in exchange for the TV, users must agree to consent to advertising and activity tracking. Oh my god. Telefound TeleFounder was the co-founder of Pluto TV, and they announced last week that they opened a wait list for its free dual screen TV. The second smaller screen sits below the main TV in the soundbar and acts as a display for ads and other widgets. So, like sports scores or stocks or anything that you want to add to it. Well, ads will stay out of the way while you're watching TV, much better than the red zone. They could take over both screens when the TV is not in use. Are you still on that whole thing? In an interview, uh Dallas Lawrence, Telly's chief strategy officer, said that Telly is working on many different ways to place ads on both screens. There are literally hundreds of things we are thinking about to create the most engaging ad experience ever, he said. On top of constant advertising, people will also have to agree to fork over plenty of data. The company states that in its privacy policy, it will collect data on the audio, the video content you want, the channels you view, and the duration of the time you view these sessions. Oh. Oh. Additionally, it will monitor on how to use your TV, including your search queries, settings, preferences, applications you open, purchases, and other transactions you make. Does anybody but does you select the time, frequency, the duration of your activities, the physical presence of you in front of the television, and any other individuals using the TV at any given time? Yeah. Would you get this $500 to a thousand dollar television for free to track this data? No.

Mike Gorday:

No, Mike says no. No. It's enough that I have to deal with Google snatching my information or Facebook, which I don't use, or whatever. Whatever is tracking me already is already getting my data. Why would I want a TV that's gonna just throw more of that crap into my face?

Nathan Mumm:

Now it also has a camera built in, so you can do a Zoom, interactive games, and fitness apps, or watch you. Um I don't Okay.

Mike Gorday:

All right. I know that there's gonna be a lot of people that go for this because they either don't understand what they're giving away or they don't care. Okay. Odie, what's you this is why billionaires are building bunkers and which just to survive the apocalypse.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, Mike said absolutely no, he would not have this TV. I'm gonna go to you next, Odie. Would you own a TV like this?

Ody:

Is the camera tracking me?

Nathan Mumm:

The camera is not tracking you. Okay, it's only available.

Ody:

I'm only gonna bring this up because this is the first thing that came to mind. Nielsen reporting.

Nathan Mumm:

Yep.

Ody:

They already do this. Yes, they do, and they don't give you anything for it.

Nathan Mumm:

That's exactly what that's exactly what Telly says.

Ody:

And with that being said, I've already done that.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay.

Ody:

So I don't really care for it. A free TV on top of that? A free camera. What else? A free camera.

Nathan Mumm:

The TV's built into the soundbar, and all you gotta do is see ads that come up on the screen.

Mike Gorday:

And here it is. This is this is what I'm talking about. We're going to glamour you with all this. Boy, I'm really, I'm really not very into tech today. I need I need liquor. We're going to glamour you into looking at all the shiny things about this TV. Yep. And on the back end, they're going to be stealing stuff that you may not have any idea of. Who cares?

Ody:

I'm getting a free TV. Who cares? I'm getting a free TV.

Nathan Mumm:

There it is. The only difference with the data we collect than what other TV manufacturers collect is that we ask the consumer up front to share what they have. Just think of all the TV manufacturers. This is what Lauren says, the owner of this, that we have worked with that already track your apps you load, that you have to have consent before you're able to even use your device in today's world. So they're already tracking all this information, but not giving you anything for free. We're up front gonna track it, uh-huh, but get you a free TV in exchange.

Mike Gorday:

All right. And how is this gonna make money for this guy?

Nathan Mumm:

Because you sell advertising. If I could have a constant advertising, that's right.

Mike Gorday:

They're going, they're going, they're gonna give you a TV so that much money you can.

Nathan Mumm:

Just a $500 TV. I'm already sold on it.

Mike Gorday:

I know you're already sold on, and I think that's I think that's bad. I think that's a bad idea.

Ody:

It's really interesting that you have that mindset when I grew up with this being the norm.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah.

Ody:

Yeah. I I I can't opt out of it. It's too late now.

Nathan Mumm:

So if I'm a whiskey ad and I can spend five hundred dollars a year to advertise to Mark, our whiskey connoisseur.

Mike Gorday:

I'm drinking.

Nathan Mumm:

Right? And I I know that his TV, he watches whiskey. He likes whiskey. I track him, he knows whiskey. So I'm gonna put a whiskey ad up there. I spend $500 to make sure that that ad every day is in front of my cheap for advertising.

Mike Gorday:

What are you trying who are you trying to convince here that this is a good idea? Or it's cool? I think this is a great idea. It is not cool. It is not a great idea.

Nathan Mumm:

I I would not have one in my house, but as a why not I would not I would not have a TV like this in my house. I just I just wouldn't because I still have an original TiVo. But what I would have to do is. No, no, no.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, no, no. Those are two unrelated things. You're not you're you're trying to tell everybody in the in the world here that you're not um on top of technology stuff. You like the old older technology.

Nathan Mumm:

I like some old stuff on TVs. I'm okay with that.

Mike Gorday:

Do you use Google?

Nathan Mumm:

Oh yeah. Well, not anymore. I use Chat GPT for everything.

Mike Gorday:

Oh, yeah, that's right. Chat GPT. How many times how many times have we talked about the the uh browsers that you use that steal less information?

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, so this is gonna steal my information. What? It's gonna put like sports stuff up there for my ads?

Ody:

I don't care for it. Who what are they gonna do? Influence me?

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, if I'm gonna put a sports ad up there to the club.

Ody:

Do you know how many times I've like, what? Who is it? Oh my god, what am I thinking of? How many times I've seen the like Rosetta Stone ads, and I've never once purchased a Rosetta Stone.

Nathan Mumm:

Uh they think somehow that you need to have a translation.

Ody:

How many times I've seen like the shamwow? I've never thought of like, oh my god, I need to get shamwow. Okay, and how about And I grew up with that stuck in my brain.

Mike Gorday:

So you're basically saying you're basically saying the same thing that uh if you grew up in a coal mining town, you would be a coal miner.

Ody:

I yeah. No, well, I'm no.

Mike Gorday:

Oh, well, I'm sure you went through all the phases there. You did. Because I no, I just you're saying that because you've been the victim of this stuff your whole life, that it's okay.

Ody:

But I've not been the victim.

Mike Gorday:

You are the victim. No, because we are all victims of this.

Ody:

No, hold on. I just said I've seen Rosetta Stone my whole life, and I have not cared for it.

Mike Gorday:

So if you had that on your television every day, you'd be like, that's a that's a single instance of something that that you have avoided, but how many times have you seen ads that have influenced your purchases over time in other areas? All right.

Ody:

I mean, all the time.

Mike Gorday:

All the time. All the time. That's that's advertising.

Nathan Mumm:

To continue the fight, you can probably find us offline and and continue that. But that is our technology.

Mike Gorday:

It's a bad idea. Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

That is our top technology.

Mike Gorday:

I gotta get a sandwich board that says repent, the end is near.

Nathan Mumm:

That ends our top technology stories of the week. Moving on, Gwen Way will be joining us for our gadgets and gear segment. Maybe this will be an AI thing for you too, Mike. All right, we're gonna drive that 88 miles per hour into our next segment. See you after the commercial break.

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Nathan Mumm:

All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mum. Our weekly show covers the top technology subjects without any political agenda. We verify the facts, we do it with the sense of humor in less than 60 minutes. Of course, a little whiskey on the side.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, I'm I'm so bummed about this stories that I can't even taste the liquor properly.

Nathan Mumm:

You can't taste the liquor properly.

Mike Gorday:

No, I have I just I just had two or three tastes, and I I don't even feel like I can say anything about it.

Marc Grégoire:

Oh no. Well, I can tell you about it, Mike. Okay, tell me about it.

Nathan Mumm:

Mark Craig, our whiskey connoisseur, is in the studio. Mark, tell us what we have.

Marc Grégoire:

All right, we have Wild Turkey 101 rye. This particular one is a private select single barrel. Now, from Wild Turkey's website, they say Wild Turkey 101 rye is the real deal, and a tribute to an enduring passion and conviction of master distiller Jimmy Russell. With its bold rye flavor, this legendary Kentucky-made whiskey is in a league of its own. Age in the deepest char American white oak barrels. Wild Turkey 101 rye has a confident, unapologetic personality in a rich golden amber color with its long and lingering spice with hints of smoke. Now, this is from, of course, the Kampari Group. Distillation is the Wild Turkey Distiller Distillery in Lawrenceburg, Kentucky. It's a straight rye. Um, the standard shelf offering is four years. This private select barrel, though, is eight years. It's 101 proof, it's 51% rye, so it's uh the lowest legal rye that can be. 37% corn, 12 malted barley. And the price, once again, the standard offering is $30. This particular bottle is $65 because it's a private select. Okay. That's definitely a Nathan price.

Nathan Mumm:

Uh, you know what? I am a wild turkey fan. Uh this is very, very, very good. This is this is the top whiskey I think I've had this year. This is a Nathan whiskey.

Marc Grégoire:

Nobody do you realize? Do you realize that you say that a lot? I have a comment about that in the mumble. So I think what you just said will fit in perfectly with my mumble. And it lingers. It lingers.

Nathan Mumm:

Hey, you know what? Just think maybe you can get fingers as your ad for your television. All right. What else do you need to share with us, Mark?

Marc Grégoire:

Well, I want our listeners to like, subscribe, add a comment in there. Please add a comment. We'd love to hear From you. Mark's tired of listening to us. And always when you've cleaned your glass, like Nathan did, drink responsibly. Heaven can wait. Heaven can wait. There you go.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Well, with our first whiskey tasting completed, we're I may have to get another refill because I already went through my first shot with the first tasting. All right. Uh we're going to move on to the feature segment. Today we have Gwen Way joining the show. She's an expert in cybersecurity during the day and a game board geek in the evening, as well as a producer of Tech Time Radio and our Gadgets and Gear Gal. Let's get ready to start our Comcast video stream for our next segment.

Intro:

What's new in our gadgets and gear?

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Welcome back to the show. Gwen. Tell everybody a little bit about yourself.

Gwen Way:

Hi, everybody. Uh, as Nathan says, I'm Gwen. Uh, most of you already know, but I've been working in technology for a little more than a quarter of a century at this point. I am I'm gonna say elbow deep in cybersecurity at this point. I love it. And Mike, I am so sorry that we have ruined your your wild turkey uh tasting experience.

Mike Gorday:

It's been a bad day.

Gwen Way:

Yeah.

Mike Gorday:

I don't know if it's I need a bunker.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't know. Yeah, you can do you know what? You could get that bunker, put your free TV down there.

Mike Gorday:

You know, this is why I live close to a major city, right? Why is that that's that's because when the bombs drop, I'll be instantly vaporized. I won't have to worry about either. That's a positive.

Gwen Way:

Exactly. Just take care of it as well.

Mike Gorday:

Take care of all my problems at once. I don't need a bunker.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay. All right. Well, last time you're on the show, Gwen, we actually talked about kind of a Kickstarter possible fake. I think this one I feel a little bit more comfortable and confident with this device that we have. So if you ever want to know what to worry about about a Kickstarter event, go and take a look at our last episode. That was like three episodes ago or four episodes ago, so 267 or 268. And he can take all in information on the gadgets and gear segment with Gwen and what to look for on a fake. But this one I got a lot of confidence in. What are we looking at today?

Mike Gorday:

See if it's a fake. Okay, there you go. Oh, there we go. It's called Truth Terminal. It's and it's a God. So a forest god.

Gwen Way:

But if we give it to him, I mean he's already a millionaire, so he's gonna buy up all of these and nobody will get any.

Mike Gorday:

So that's right. Okay, I don't have a problem with that. So all right.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, what it what now this device is fire resistant. That's what they start with. So explain how this fire resistant device can help us.

Gwen Way:

Well, we're looking at the Power Cube Titan this uh this month. It is a power bank which we've had good luck with here at the show. Most of them have been legitimate and have turned out really solid products, but nothing quite as solid as this one. Uh this is a solid state power bank, which is important because it is less likely to explode or catch fire than any of the standard liquid state uh batteries. That's that's good. That's the big difference.

Mike Gorday:

That is. Is that why it's fire resistant, or is that probably one of the reasons?

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, it'd probably melt down instead of just catch on fire.

Gwen Way:

Yeah, which is nice. Um, I I actually was traveling for work last week, and one of the announcements was that people are no longer allowed to use power banks on airplanes because they're concerned of fire risks. This would uh counter that.

Mike Gorday:

Would my apocalypse insurance take care of that one? I don't know.

Gwen Way:

I mean, possibly, but again, who's gonna pay?

Mike Gorday:

Do they still tell you how to turn off your Wi-Fi? I don't know, but if billionaires are doing it, maybe I should be doing it too.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, so let me ask you do they tell you to turn the Wi-Fi off, though, Gwen?

Gwen Way:

They do, which I know has been debunked multiple times.

Nathan Mumm:

That's the most ridiculous thing ever, but whatever. Okay. All right. You know what? If it's in your uh, I guess, uh, terminology that you do your intro with, you continue. So tell us a little bit more. What is cool about this device? What makes this battery bank different from others? I don't like one thing about it, but why don't you go through and we can kind of talk about the one thing that bothers me on this? It doesn't talk.

Gwen Way:

It does not talk. Um there are a bunch of really cool things about it, though. Uh number one, like I said, it's solid state, so it's less likely to explode. It's also a little bit more dependable and can hold more power uh than the liquid state batteries. Uh number two, it gives you fast charging. Not many battery banks actually offer that these days, so that's awesome. It offers you wireless charging. So if you've got a wireless charging phone, you just put it on top of the battery uh for the power bank, and it charges the phone just like that. Uh you've got the ability to bring multiple converters so that you're able to plug it in if you're traveling internationally, no matter where you go. And there's even some built-in cables. And I think this is where Nathan's got uh going to take exception to.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, so uh this kind of gets me. So help me out here. The the carrying cable they have is actually the part of the lightning or USB-C charging cable. Now, I don't know about you, but when I carry stuff around, my concern is that the hidden data they they have it listed as the hidden data cable storage. I don't know if I want to be swinging around my cable that I have to plug into this device and then plug in to charge something because I am sure I'm gonna break that cable. So that that concerns me. Why why should I not be concerned?

Gwen Way:

They actually say that it is well built and that they've actually reinforced the cable. Um I also am slightly concerned about it, to be honest. I haven't been able to do that. I I could see Nathan using a power bank as a weapon as he tries to get you know further in line to get the churros at Disneyland.

Speaker 8:

That's right.

Gwen Way:

So I I get why he's overly concerned about this. Um personally, I would just put it in a bag and carry it in a bag rather than using the handle.

Mike Gorday:

I thought Nathan was the type to tie it around one of his belt loops and just drag the thing around.

Speaker 8:

That's exactly right.

Mike Gorday:

That seems more like Nathan than beating down churro uh customers.

Nathan Mumm:

That one I just don't and then they advertise it as easy to carry, and then they have a bag, and then they kind of don't show you carrying the cable, but then they talk about the cable. So a little bit about that. What I do like though is that it has two of the most important chargers in my mind. It has uh uh Apple iWatch charger built into the device. So I always have I have an Apple iWatch. I I I use it all the time. That's my default watch. And every single time I go on a trip, I have to bring an additional cable to charge my watch.

Gwen Way:

But this has And it's a big charger, too.

Nathan Mumm:

And it's a big charger. So so so tell me why I would want to have this and all the great features that would be like, oh, Nathan, this is why you need to have it.

Gwen Way:

This actually takes over six different functions. It does do the Apple Watch charging. Uh it's like I said, the wireless charger. You've got the converter so that you can plug in anywhere. It can act as a power strip so you can actually have pass-through power, or you plug it into the wall and you just plug other things into it and it charges on through.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, yeah.

Gwen Way:

It's got a lot of useful features, definitely.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, tell us about the stats now. What is the stats? How many backers, where's the company located? How many pledges, what the price is? What what do we got here?

Gwen Way:

So there's a couple of things that we we kind of want to pick on here. Uh it's it's doing well. It's tripled its goal of $2,000. It's it's at about $6,600 right now. There are 66 backers. 66 is a great number, I guess. Uh it says that it's out of Denver, Colorado, but it looks like it's probably actually being produced in Hong Kong, which is something that you want to keep in mind here. Uh it also says that uh you've got until the 24th of October. So just over a week and a half if you want to pledge to it. Uh, but it's saying it's gonna have things out by December. Nathan, you and I both know that's probably.

Mike Gorday:

Did you say they're asking $6,600 for this thing?

Gwen Way:

Uh they have $6,600.

Mike Gorday:

Oh, okay. All right. No, no, what is the price?

Gwen Way:

Yeah, what is the price? There are two sizes that you can get. There's a smaller one that is just a power bank that doesn't have all of the extra features, uh, which is right now $59 on the early bird. Pass on that.

Nathan Mumm:

Pass on that. There are many other devices that do the same thing out there. So pass. Exactly. Okay.

Gwen Way:

But if you want to get the full one right now, you can still get it on the early bird price of $89.

Nathan Mumm:

$89. You're gonna do that one. You're gonna do that one. Yeah, actually, I'm I forwarded this to my wife. She loves these things. She we have so many power banks around our house. You know, we got fake. You fake, you're you're a good fake out. You know what? We're gonna have a bunker, so I need to have all these devices.

Mike Gorday:

Where are you gonna put your bunker? Uh in that in that shed out there?

Nathan Mumm:

I have I I'm gonna buy three more containers.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, and I'll just I just bury them in the hill.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, that's exactly that's exactly right. There you go.

Mike Gorday:

We need to we need to invent it.

Gwen Way:

I've got some YouTube videos for you. Okay, all right.

Mike Gorday:

That'll work. That'll keep us, that'll keep everybody entertained while the zombies are knocking out. Yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, so the real quick question now, Gwen, that you where is this located again? And are you gonna buy a unit?

Gwen Way:

It says it's based out of Denver, Colorado. It looks like it's probably actually based out of Hong Kong. But I'll be honest, I I already uh went ahead and signed up for one. This looks like it's gonna be a solid offering.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, and where can you find it again online? Where do where do you go to find it online?

Gwen Way:

You go to Kickstarter.com and search for Power Cube Titan.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay. There you go. All right, well, uh, you know what? I I just actually during the show, I just sent it to the wife. So we'll see if I get one of those for Christmas. Uh according to the Kickstarter. It's gonna be it's gonna be her time. I believe them.

Mike Gorday:

That's what you did. You say, Hey, buy this me buy this for me for Christmas, so I don't have to look like I buy everything off a Kickstarter.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, so do you have an update? Oh, so we talked last month about the uh company that was very sketchy. So do you have any updates on that Kickstarter that we kind of talked about?

Gwen Way:

It got fully funded. Okay. Um, taking a look at it though, I'm still feeling really iffy on it. I I don't think it's actually going to be a real product. I don't think it's gonna be released. There's a lot of controls that they're putting where they're only accepting payment through um PayPal.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay.

Gwen Way:

Uh and there are a lot of sites that are just kind of sketchy for you.

Nathan Mumm:

You should be able to take a credit card because kick uh all my Kickstarter stuff. PayPal does take credit cards. Well, I know, but it gets it taken care of. All right. Well, Gwen, thank you so much for coming on the show. It's always a pleasure to have you talk about new gadgets. Now we're in the holiday season, so we got we got November and December, so we got to get some good Christmas gifts for Mr. Mum here. So I need to get some new uh items for for items.

Gwen Way:

That's the plan, and we're gonna look off of Kickstarter so that we can get something that you're guaranteed to get. Oh, I love that.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, okay, that ends our segment. We want to thank Gwenway for being a part of the show. She does a great job of finding the most unique items each month for our show. And with that, now let's move on to Mike's mesmerizing moment.

Speaker 4:

Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment. What does Mike have to say today?

Nathan Mumm:

All right, Mike, with the Halloween holiday around the corner, what is your favorite technology item that has made Halloween scarier for you either this year or the last couple years?

Mike Gorday:

AI that scares me every day. Scares you every day.

Nathan Mumm:

Is there a technology that you've seen out there, though, and in the Halloween stuff?

Mike Gorday:

I mean, I see you know, I like those ones that project things onto your window. Okay. All right.

Nathan Mumm:

You know, like the the displays that have like the ghosts and everything. Yeah.

Mike Gorday:

I like those. You like those? Yeah, I like those.

Nathan Mumm:

Have you seen the um knockoff from the uh haunted mansion in Disney where they have like the four guys singing? No. Projector. Oh, I gotta show you a video during our break. It's like the you you you build these little type of deals, the same thing, projection, and you project the guys that are actually in the ride and they can do their whole little dialogue on that.

Mike Gorday:

That's pretty cool. Yeah, I also like you know going into Costco in July and seeing all the all the new October stuff. July.

Nathan Mumm:

Uh how about the new stuff that jumps at you? I mean, they they some of these interactions.

Mike Gorday:

Some of them are pretty funny.

Nathan Mumm:

They are. Yeah. I liked them. Okay. See, technology is making Halloween even more exciting for everybody else.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, I don't have any of those things, but you know.

Nathan Mumm:

But all you gotta do is walk in Costco in July and then you can try them out.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, that's that's what I do. I go into Costco in July just to see the Halloween decorations. And then, you know, on the 1st of August, I can go watch the Christmas stuff coming rolling out.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, and then and then in January you can get the uh summer uh in January everything's on the liquor aisle.

Mike Gorday:

There you go.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, thank you for that mesmerizing moment. Up next, we have this very mesmerizing this weekend technology. So now would be a great time to enjoy a little whiskey on the side, as we're gonna be doing so during the break. You're listening to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumsey in a few minutes. Hey Mike. Yeah, what's up? Hey, so you know what? We need people to start liking our uh social media pages.

Mike Gorday:

If you like our show, if you really like us, we should use your support on patreon.com. Or is it Patreon? I think it's Patreon. Okay, Patreon. If you really like us, you can say I'm the English guy? Patreon.com. I I butcher the English language? You know you butcher the English language.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, so it's politics.

Mike Gorday:

It's patreon.com. Patreon.com. If you really like if you really like our show, you can subscribe to patreon.com and help us out. Oh, and you can visit us on that Facebook platform. You know the one that Zuckerberg owns? The one that we always bag on?

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, you can we're on Facebook too. Yeah, like us on Facebook. Do you know what our Facebook page is? Tech Time Radio. At Tech Time Radio. You know what? There's a trend here. It seems to be that there's a trend, and that's Tech Time Radio. Or you can even Instagram with us. And that's at Tech Time Radio. That's at Tech Time Radio. Or you can find us on TikTok. And it's Tech Time Radio. It's at Tech Time Radio.

Mike Gorday:

Like and subscribe to our social media.

Nathan Mumm:

Like us today. We need you to like us.

Mike Gorday:

Like us and subscribe.

Nathan Mumm:

That's it. That's it. That's that simple.

Intro:

And now, let's look back at this week in technology.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, this week in technology, we go to October 13th, 1983. Cellular goes live in the United States. Cellular? Cellular goes live in the United States. Ameritech Mobile Communications executive Bob Burnett makes a phone call from a parked car near Soldier Field in Chicago, officially launching the first cellular network in the United States. Originally named Ameritech Mobile Communications, it later became known as Ameritech Cellular, and then was sold to GTE, which later became a part of Verizon Wireless. Still in operation today. Just think of that. I was there.

Mike Gorday:

You were there talking about. I remember that. Do you remember those things? Big huge brick with the big with the with the suitcase battery.

Nathan Mumm:

And somehow they said that there was no cancer related to those ever at all. You know, I always found that the most interesting conversation. But they would say that.

Mike Gorday:

That's where do you think where do you think the whole uh 5G thing comes from?

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, the 5G thing is some some somebody said that the spectrums that's out there was created and it and it causes radio wavelengths. Yeah, all the spectrums have been around forever. There is no new spectrums. They just reuse the data. So never mind. I go I go hours and hours under that false code.

Mike Gorday:

It's it's all it's all crazy out there. And you know, I can't even go home and take Tylenol anymore.

Nathan Mumm:

That's all right. That was this week in Technology. If you ever want to watch some Tech Time history with over 270 plus weekly broadcasts, banning our five plus years of video, podcasts, and blog information. You can visit TechTimeRadio.com to watch our older shows and take Tylenol. All right. With that, we're going to take a commercial break. When you return, we have the Mark Mumble whiskey review. See you after this.

Mike Gorday:

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Intro:

The segment we've been waiting all week for.

Mike Gorday:

Had to dry your motorcycle.

Nathan Mumm:

Alright. Okay. I need some more whiskey here. I'm already out, but tell us.

Marc Grégoire:

Well, before you didn't pour you should have poured yourself. I should have poured another break. You can do it right now while we talk about today. Today, October 14th. You two are celebrating today very, very hard. Odie and I will just be helping you celebrate. So it's not national complaint about AI Day. No, Nathan did not join you on that. Oh. It's not uh damn it.

Ody:

I thought I had something to do with age.

Marc Grégoire:

National be a be a billionaire.

Ody:

A little bit. Oh, a little bit?

Marc Grégoire:

A little bit, but I'm not celebrating it, so it's not truly just the age. Okay.

Ody:

Right. So I don't know. What is it? Kiss.

Marc Grégoire:

Be bald and be free day.

Ody:

Oh, wow.

Marc Grégoire:

Be bald and be free day? Yeah. So let us all celebrate today with Nathan and Mike. Millions of people who are affected by baldness, either due to natural causes or medical treatment, which is why this day is dedicated to the bald and the beautiful.

Mike Gorday:

Mine's all due to AI, I think.

Nathan Mumm:

You can't blame everything on AI.

Mike Gorday:

I feel like I can. I feel like I can do whatever I want this day in this day and age.

Nathan Mumm:

Alright, so tell us more about today. It's got to be a special holiday for many great people like Patrick. Patrick Stewart. Patrick Stewart. I'm trying to think of all these beautiful balls. Cojack!

Ody:

Nobody shines as bright as you two on this video feed. That's for sure.

Marc Grégoire:

Wow, that is great, Cody, because this is what I have.

Mike Gorday:

God only made a few perfect heads and the rest he covered with hair.

Marc Grégoire:

So as we honor those who embrace the shine, remember they have something in common with every wild turkey that has ever met Thanksgiving dinner.

Speaker 4:

Besides they all die?

Marc Grégoire:

No, they're all bald. Oh, they're all bald.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, you plug it and say, okay. I thought you were saying that we all die. That's a good thing. We do that too.

Marc Grégoire:

We do that too. Okay. Which brings us to Wild Turkey Private Barrel Program. So let's talk about why this is a private barrel.

Mike Gorday:

It's better for bald guys.

Marc Grégoire:

Nope. Each year, the Wild Turkey Distill distillery meticulously selects and releases only a few hundred private barrel picks, making them a true gem in the world of whiskey. These exclusive barrels are handpicked by a member of the Russell family, ensuring that each one reflects the pinnacle of Wild Turkey's craftsmanship and heritage. They are definitely a step above the standard shelf offering. Now let's talk about this particular bottle.

Nathan Mumm:

Which Russell, which Russell uh family member picked this one?

Marc Grégoire:

I don't know which one. It was either Jimmy, which is probably not Jimmy. Jimmy doesn't really pick him anymore. Okay. Um, so it's either it's probably his grandson, and why am I blanking on his name? Somebody put a comment in there real quick.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, there you go. Okay.

Marc Grégoire:

Yes. Now private select is well made, but ultimately this one does not overwhelm me. For its private barrel price point, it does not stand above other ryes in the same range, and it feels too expensive to use as a cocktail base. Being a low rye rye, that signature rye punch simply does not come through, leaving it tasting closer to a good high rye bourbon than a bold rye. Not really a sipper, I would reach for often. In truth, a standard 101 rye may be a better option, more versatile, and far easier to justify the cost. So with that said, my guess was that Nathan would probably like this rye immensely, since this doesn't really taste like a rye. And Mike might be a little wishy-washy on it. Hey!

Ody:

You are spot on with Nathan.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, he's already.

Ody:

I think we have it on tape as well, with you saying, like, wow, like this is a good thing. This is good. This is great.

Marc Grégoire:

It's the price that does it for him.

Ody:

No, how about the price?

Marc Grégoire:

30 bucks. Well, that's the standard offering. This private select barrel was 65.

Ody:

Yeah, and Mark just said that it's not worth the 65. Am I wrong?

Mike Gorday:

No, you're correct. No, Nathan, Nathan would because it's all about his price point.

Ody:

65 is his price.

Mike Gorday:

No, 30 is his price point.

Nathan Mumm:

I'm curious. I pay for 65 for this though.

Marc Grégoire:

Yeah, because you don't have good taste. And you probably wouldn't be able to taste the difference between this and the $30 bottle, so you might as well just buy the $30 one.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah.

Marc Grégoire:

How about that?

Nathan Mumm:

No, I don't know. This is a kind of better taste. I mean, I may actually want to. It's the best one you've had this year.

Marc Grégoire:

Yeah. You should go out and buy the $30 bottle and see. Today, today was the the latest day that you've lived this whole year.

Nathan Mumm:

Was that today is the best day ever? Every day is the best day ever. Okay. Do you ever wake up and look at yourself in the mirror?

Ody:

Uh and think, damn, I'm good looking. Exactly. Wow.

Nathan Mumm:

Exactly. That is the funny thing to be done.

Mike Gorday:

You know, you know what? I'm not even gonna answer that question. Alright. Well, you know what? I know what you have next to your bed. Uh a mirror? Yeah, Stuart. Okay. All right. You're smart enough and good enough, and gosh darn it, people like you. That's right. You know what?

Nathan Mumm:

Technology and whiskey, such a great pairing. Like Reese's pieces and chocolate candies for Halloween. Are you a Reese's pieces fan?

Mike Gorday:

You don't like Reese's pieces? No, I love Reese's pieces. That was just a bad pairing. You should have said Reese's pieces and E.T. That wouldn't make more sense than Reese's pieces and chocolate. That would have been.

Ody:

Mike, when can we get you to do the pairing?

Nathan Mumm:

That's cut and paste. Yeah. Cut and paste.

Ody:

It's a golden one.

Mike Gorday:

After the apocalypse happened. Alright. You know what? Let me know. I'll do that. Mark?

Nathan Mumm:

I love having you here.

Marc Grégoire:

Well, thank you.

Nathan Mumm:

You know what? Now, let's prepare for our technology fail of the week.

Mike Gorday:

Alright, let's do that. I feel like I feel like that was a backhanded company. Oh, here we go. Congratulations. You're a failure.

Ad:

Oh, I failed. Did I? Yes. Did I?

Nathan Mumm:

Yes. So I know this fits right up Mark's alley. You know what? You're a pretty big Discord user, right, Mark? No. All right. Mike, are you a big Discord user?

Mike Gorday:

Uh, I am not a big Discord user, but I I use it. You use the site? Okay. I'm sure Odie have used Discord.

Ody:

Yeah, and recently, yeah, I have been using it more. Guess what?

Mike Gorday:

They just stole all your information.

Ody:

Oh my goodness. See? I don't get a choice in it. It's just every day. You know, if you're gonna use it. So if I'm gonna have a gain out of it, I'm going to do it.

Mike Gorday:

If you're gonna use it, if you use that defeatus attitude, I think I would have a free television out of it too. Okay. All right.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, this week it comes, our technology failed comes just from Discord, the social media site, all about the Discord of causes. Now, Discord says that it had a breach of 70,000 users that may have included government IDs in the breach. Discord claims that the attackers are circulating inaccurate information. This is Discord claims the attackers are circulating inaccurate information about the customer service provider's breach as a part of extortion attempt. Let me tell you, I still have yet to see when somebody claims online that they have data and they post the data on the dark web, any of these hackers being wrong. Now, these companies are like 0 for 100 on their explanations of what happened, but Discord says that the hackers online don't have the correct information. Who do you believe? The hackers, or do you believe uh Discord?

Mike Gorday:

Oh, totally Discord. No, yeah, that's because you know.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, Mark, who do you believe? Discord or the hackers?

Marc Grégoire:

Oh, I'm with Mike. Totally the company that got hacked.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, absolutely.

Marc Grégoire:

Okay, wait, wait, always say that yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

They're not gonna always up. We can talk about getting hacked. That's all right. Yeah, we can. Discord has identified approximately 70,000 users that had their government ID photos exposed as part of the customer service data breach announced last week. According to a new Wexler, Discord has been extorted over a breach from Zendesk's instance by the group, claiming that it had 1.5 terabyte of age verification related photos, over 2 million photos breached.

Mike Gorday:

Oh, is that how you get on Discord when you're underage? Is by using your photo ID?

Nathan Mumm:

You have to put your photo ID in the code. Oh, well, that was a smart choice. Well uh following last week's announcement about the security incident involving a third-party customer service provider, we want to address the inaccurate claims circulating online. This is what Discord posts out, which are being made by those that are responsible. First, as stated in our blog posts, this was not a breach of Discord, but rather a third-party service we use to support our customer service efforts. Now, here's my question. Because we've actually, Mark, me and you worked at an MSP before. We did. So is it now at the point where if we use a service that is breached, the core company can shake responsibility and say it's not their fault? I want to ask you that question. Isn't that what they do anyway? Well, this is this is now starting to become a trend. It's it's happening. They this happened really a lot with um the last two large breaches. So you have uh breach, oh, what's the CRM company that was breached?

Marc Grégoire:

So Discord's saying it's not their fault because Zendesk is what was hacked, even though they use Zendesk and it got into the Discord server. Correct.

Nathan Mumm:

Yes. Yeah, that that's uh so so is are are we able to now start blaming third parties?

Mike Gorday:

We blame everybody for everything anyway, so why not?

Marc Grégoire:

It is the third party's fault. There's no doubt about that. It was a flaw in their software. Okay, yeah, but it's also Discord's fault. Does that mean you can't hold Discord responsible? That's a tough one because if I'm using a tool and and I get hacked.

Nathan Mumm:

So Salesforce. Salesforce was what the big hack that happened, and so everybody blamed Salesforce, not their CRM stuff, but Salesforce for the large hack that happens. And that was actually kind of publicized enough that people said, Oh, okay, well, I guess it's more Salesforce Salesforce.

Marc Grégoire:

Right, because me as a company that's using Salesforce, there is no way I can protect against it. Nothing more besides using another CRM.

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Okay.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, but this is this is the problem is are we off-shifting blame or are we setting up a shifting blame situation? If I'm if I'm a company and I want to run some sort of technology and I hire a third party to do it for me, and they get hacked, so the information in my database gets from them, who am I held to any accountability at all?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, that's what's happening now. That's what I'm gonna ask. So it looks like Discord is saying, you know what, it's not our fault, it's Zendesk's fault, so don't yell at us. Uh we just use Zendesk.

Mike Gorday:

If you ever read Discord chats, you know they're doing exactly what gamers are doing. So what's that? They're yelling about stuff that is happening without taking accountability.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, no, no, no, okay. Yeah, so Discord is all about just kind of I mean, it's just kind of like the Reddit version of I want to shout and yell at people, in my opinion, but that's okay.

Mike Gorday:

Oh, it is. It's just uh Discord is a bunch of trash.

Nathan Mumm:

But that's it's called Discord for purpose. It's called Discord costs.

Mike Gorday:

Very apt name for for something because nobody's happy on Discord.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, so back goes to it. Are you as a company now able to blame your third party you use?

Marc Grégoire:

Yeah. Okay. I mean, it is the third parties. Of course, you that's their fault. Does that mean that company should wash their hands and say we have nothing to do and we're not going to do anything more? No. It's still their customers that got hacked. Okay. And so you still need to step up and take some responsibility, but it's ultimately there's nothing.

Nathan Mumm:

So if you're a CEO of a company and you decide to outsource everything to all third parties, then if your company gets breached, you all you can all you have to do is then just point finger, point finger, point finger and say it's never me that gets taken care of. All right.

Mike Gorday:

Well you don't even need to send us survivors that.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, let's remove right now. You know what? Let's move on now to our pick of the day whiskey tasting.

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And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings. Let's see what bubbles to the top.

Marc Grégoire:

So I have to address something real quick before I get skewered online. Oh. Because I couldn't, I blanked on the Russell's names of ours, and they are just like iconic in the industry, but it came to me as you were talking. So it's Eddie and Bruce. Let's move on. Yeah, we're just gonna. We know you're a thumbs up. I'm curious of what Mike ended up with. He's probably a thumbs up at tentative. That's my guess. Uh yeah, that would be exactly right. I suspect. It's good whiskey.

Mike Gorday:

It's okay, but you know, it's it's good enough to have a thumbs up, but it's not the best whiskey I've had all year. Mike, we're about out of time.

Nathan Mumm:

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