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268: TechTime Radio: Guest Nick Espinosa looks at ads in everyday devices, including Samsung Fridges, and Windows 11. Deepfake Case Exposes legal gaps in AI Abuse, Google Removes 224 Fraudulent Apps | Air Date: 9/23 - 9/29/25
Prepare yourself for a sobering look at the increasingly invasive world of technology monetization. Nick Espinosa, Chief Security Fanatic, joins the Tech Time crew to expose how tech giants are finding alarming new ways to serve us advertisements – from Samsung refrigerators with built-in ads to Microsoft's new full-screen "scoop" ads in Windows 11 that you can't escape. As Nick bluntly puts it, "We're never going to get rid of ads. They are trying to monetize absolutely everything."
The conversation takes a disturbing turn when examining the recent deepfake case in Scotland, where a man received only a fine after creating and sharing non-consensual nude images with a woman's face. This landmark case highlights the inadequacy of current legal frameworks to address AI-generated content that causes real psychological harm. Meanwhile, Google's takedown of 224 Android apps involved in a massive ad fraud operation generating 2.3 billion daily requests raises serious questions about mobile device security.
OpenAI's forthcoming $4 ChatGPT Go plan signals a potentially revolutionary shift in how we'll access information. This budget-friendly AI service, already available in India and Indonesia, raises fascinating questions about the future of search and whether "better thinking" will become a premium service only available to those willing to pay for it.
The team also examines how AI might impact child development, with Mike offering compelling arguments about the dangers of using technology as a substitute for human interaction. His concern that "it's not human development, it's human replacement" resonates deeply as we consider the implications of AI companions for our youngest generation.
Subscribe now for more insights on navigating our increasingly complex digital landscape without losing your privacy, security, or sanity in the process. And don't forget to scan your Android device with Malwarebytes or Bitdefender – you might be surprised what you find lurking there!
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Nathan Mumm:Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm. Welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. The show that makes you go, hmm. Technology news of the week the show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Bummeyer, technologist with over 30 years of technology expertise. Of course, we have our co-host, mike Rodea. He's in studio and he's an award-winning author and our human behavior expert Human behavior expert, you like that.
:Sure.
Nathan Mumm:All right. Now we're live streaming during our show on up to five different popular platforms, including YouTube, twitchtv, facebook, a new one called Zim, linkedin, and we encourage you to visit us online at techtimeradiocom and become a Patreon supporter at patreoncom. Forward slash techtimeradios. We're friends from different backgrounds and we hope to bring the best technology so possible weekly for our family, friends and fans to enjoy. Odr producer is not at the control panel today, so that means, by default, nathan takes over the control panel. So welcome everyone. Let's start today's show.
Nathan Mumm:Now on today's show all right on today's show. Of course we have nick espinoza joining the program, so that will give us some good insight of what's going on. And we always have our standard features, including mike's mesmerizing moment, our technology fail the week, a possible nathan nugget and, of course, our pick of the day whiskey tasting, to see if our whiskey pick gets zero, one or two thumbs up by the end of the show. But now it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology.
Speaker 1:Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan Mumm:All right Story. Number one open AIs got a discount deal coming together now, so we got a $4 GPT Go plan. Have you guys heard about this? This is the new alternative that I believe will end up taking over web searches in the future.
Mike Gorday:It's going to be a GPT Plus plan in two months.
Nathan Mumm:Well, there is a GPT Plus and a Pro plan, which we'll talk about also, so they're already there too, but this is a $4 GPTO plan. Let's go to Lisa Walker for more on this.
Speaker 6:The Go plan was launched as a budget-friendly subscription at just $4 per month, giving users access to advanced AI tools in emerging regions. Openai could start offering ChatGPT's premium features to more users worldwide and the US in just a few weeks. According to OpenAI's current pricing tiers, chatgpt Go unlocks access to GPT-5, expanded messaging and uploads faster image generation and custom GPTs. While the features are trimmed compared to top-tier plans, it still delivers more than what the free tier offers. Now back to you guys in the studio.
Nathan Mumm:All right, so let's talk about this. So we have this now is live in India and Indonesia. If you are using the free version of ChatGPT, it actually nudges you to upgrade your free account to this ChatGPT 5 budget account. It's only $4. Now it's not in the United States yet, but if you go to their actual pricing plans you already see USD pricing. That is listed there, so you know it's coming out in the next couple of weeks. I know Sam Altman has a big press release in two weeks from now, which I would guess would be probably the large announcement of this event itself having a browser slash, mobile slash, cheap version of ChatGPT for $4 a month. Now, in comparison, we have the Plus plan that you were talking about. That's $20 a month, mike. So with that you get ChatGPT 5 with advanced reasoning, you get the Sora video generation, you get Kodc agents and expanded deep research wait a second.
Mike Gorday:If I pay more money, it will think better uh, that's that, that's exactly, that's exactly.
Nathan Mumm:It's kind of, you know, it's kind of like if you get uh advice from somebody down at the local grocery store versus if you get advice from somebody in a law firm if I need a lawyer yeah, so you wouldn't go to you wouldn't'm going to pay my GPT guy to think better. Well yes, but guess what? You can also get the pro plan. So there's the plus, and the pro. The pro plan sits at $200 a month. It unlocks pro-level reasoning, so I mean that must be like.
Speaker 5:That is like your scientist version.
Nathan Mumm:Oh my gosh, be like, that is like your scientist version.
:oh my gosh, you got your astronaut version you got your lawyer version and you got your local checker down at the at the store available.
Nathan Mumm:That's how you delineate your class system there well, I'm just saying if you're doing each of the pro plans that's, that's amazing. So four dollars. Chat gpt pro for four dollars a month. That changes your search if I live in india well, it's going to be here in the United States. Okay, would you pay for this? Absolutely not. You would not pay for this.
:No.
Mike Gorday:Oh man, okay, I'm going to. I would.
Nathan Mumm:I would Absolutely.
Mike Gorday:Yeah, I know you would, because you love this stuff.
Nathan Mumm:I do love this stuff.
Mike Gorday:I do not like it for certain things, but why would I pay $20 a month? Well, you don't have to.
Nathan Mumm:You can pay now for the budget plan $4.
Mike Gorday:Let's just say that I don't have access to that budget plan quite yet, right, okay, if I'm paying $20 a month for something to think for me, what do I need to be around for?
Nathan Mumm:Well, you know, you said it, I'm just saying Okay.
Mike Gorday:So I have an example. I have a customer who wrote me a… Nastygram. No, it's not a complaint letter, but sort of a letter that lists some complaints about what's up. Okay, and she used ChatGPT. Okay, and she told me she used ChatGPT. Okay, it was 18 pages long. Okay, did you have to read through? All of it I no, no, I didn't what because? Because the chat gpt, yeah like did all these meandering tangents, tangents that it was.
Mike Gorday:Just it was. If I've got to pay 20 bucks to make it think better for me, maybe that's why. Well, you can always use Bing.
Nathan Mumm:Microsoft Bing with.
Mike Gorday:Copilot, which is available for free.
Nathan Mumm:I know you're in a love affair with Bing. I love Bing. It's my browser.
Mike Gorday:I think you just go around the house going Bing.
Marc Gregoire:So, Mike, you have to let her know that you can type After she gives you the 18 pages. She can type in shorter and it'll actually make it shorter for her yeah, that's how csa condenses to five pages somebody how to use something that's supposedly thinking for you.
Nathan Mumm:Okay, four dollars, it's gonna be, it's gonna be the biggest hit that's out there, okay.
Mike Gorday:I don't understand why this is such a thing. How is?
Marc Gregoire:that different, like if you use the brave browser, they have uh ai built into it yeah. Do you know what they use for that?
Nathan Mumm:So their AI that they have built into it is. I believe that's Anthropic. It's still based on the Chromium product that's available there. But I believe Brave uses either their version of something. But I don't believe Because I use Brave also and it's not the same results that I get from my chat GPT results. It is not so I think. I think I mean it could be grok, it could be gemini. With google it could be grok with elon musk.
Marc Gregoire:I don't think so. It doesn't give me um that type of response. It doesn't give you that type of response okay all right mark four dollars you're paying it for.
Nathan Mumm:Uh, open ai's search tool. Are you, are you gonna buy into?
Marc Gregoire:that mark well, I'm already on the twenty dollar plan so would you go down to the $4?
Nathan Mumm:that's exactly. I'm on the $20 plan too.
Marc Gregoire:I'd have to see whether it's pretty good or not okay, so see he pays for 20 bucks.
Nathan Mumm:Hallelujah, there you go.
Mike Gorday:Hallelujah, that's it sam allman's making money yeah okay, okay all right, he will be as soon as he takes a stupid company public well, that's well.
Nathan Mumm:Him and microsoft are working on that, mike by a $20 plan.
Marc Gregoire:it does more work for me and I have more time to drink whiskey. Oh there you go.
Nathan Mumm:I can't argue with that one Cha-ching.
Mike Gorday:There you go.
:All right, maybe.
Mike Gorday:I just need to do it to talk to my boss. Is that what you need?
Nathan Mumm:Whatever, what the hell was that?
Mike Gorday:Pecan, pecan, pecan, tomato, tomato there you go.
Nathan Mumm:That's your old clip, see, so I I've had the control, but I got all your old clips loaded here. All right, there you go, there's your own now all right hooked on phonics work for you. We got that one too, you like that works for you, didn't?
Marc Gregoire:it works for you, didn't it? There you go, see all right.
Nathan Mumm:next story nathan all right right. Next story, story number two.
Mike Gorday:Story number two is not AI. Well, it is AI.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Mike Gorday:The victim of one of the first deep fake image prosecutions in Scotland no less, says she's been left feeling humiliated and betrayed after the man who doctored her likeness was given a fine like this was given a fine. So this person was alerted to deep fake images bearing her face by a friend. Colm Brooks of 25, from Glasgow, became one of the first to be convicted of using AI technology to create and share deep fake nude images after admitting the offense in court last month. So the woman, sophie, which is not her real name, told BBC Scotland that crimes using AI should have their own legislation and that penalties should be higher, and the Scottish government responded by saying that it is considering that. We all know that I have a problem with defakes. Yep, as we all should, and is it?
Marc Gregoire:because your face has been put on one or because you want your face put on and it hasn't been done. Neither, no, okay, neither I mean what's a deep fake right? It's a fake.
Mike Gorday:Fake is a digitally mint manipulated image that replaces person's likenesses with uh convincingly with other images, right? So it ranges from not only just still pictures, which is this particular one where somebody took the image of a woman that he knew in high school and plugged in some nudie stuff, all the way to these videos where you see Barack Obama talking about stuff he never did, and even, I guess, trump doing it too.
Mike Gorday:Just all kinds of stuff. So we have this very powerful effect in the human nature where, when we see things online or on TV or in in print, we have this bias towards believing it okay so this you know. This woman said she was horrified after a friend alerted her that her face had been put on two of these images, and then she reported that it was somebody that she knew from high school. And they went to court and all they got was a fine.
Nathan Mumm:So there we go. So they got a fine. So what should be done to correct this? Should the guy be?
Mike Gorday:put in jail. Well, you know, and we're talking about UK- yeah. So their laws are a little different. So he admitted to creating the deep fake of naked images of the woman he knew in high school, and the sharing of such images without a person's consent is already a criminal offense in the UK.
Marc Gregoire:Okay, and so why didn't it fall under that?
Mike Gorday:You know, maybe we should ask ChatGPT, because I don't know.
Nathan Mumm:I don't know either, I don't know, I think it's because it's AI generated. So he's saying that he didn't create it when I was looking a little bit in this. He didn't create it. The AI created it, so it became this kind of this vague, but he instructed it to use her image.
Marc Gregoire:He's partly, yeah, but he instructed it to use her image.
Nathan Mumm:He's partly, he's fully responsible for that.
Marc Gregoire:Yeah, he's fully responsible.
Nathan Mumm:The AI computer did not just go out and grab a picture and say we're going to throw this face on a naked person.
Marc Gregoire:There you go. So you're absolutely right. It's like if I took Mike's face, put it on Fabio with the long blonde hair.
Nathan Mumm:Oh, you need to put him on the Russian Putin.
Marc Gregoire:You ought to be Putin on the horseback. On the horseback, that would upset me. It's not like chat gp would have done that on its own. I'm the one that orchestrated that, so I would be responsible.
Mike Gorday:Yeah yeah well so what?
Nathan Mumm:happens when you see ads because I every once in a while I'm cruising around on the internet. You see ads and they come on up with deep fakes and put somebody's picture here and you can add them to anything, right? So if I put that picture in there, I mean I use jib jab, right? Jib jab is kind of the very first funny little uh cartoons that you can do. Your mouth talks. It's kind of like uh, south park, uh old school type of deal and, um, I put people's pictures on there. Does that mean that you need to give consent to that? I sent those out at Christmas time with, normally, people from my company that I'm working with. They're kind of funny, I mean. So it's kind of this gray area it is a gray area, because we aren't.
Mike Gorday:that's what we're talking about Exactly. We're talking about consent and non-consent.
Speaker 5:Okay.
Mike Gorday:And something like this is non-consensual, okay, and something like this is non-consensual, yeah, and potentially damaging, okay.
Marc Gregoire:Is it?
Mike Gorday:a gray area.
Marc Gregoire:Because you can do that for your own pleasure to look, but if you start sending that out, I think that's the big difference, right, I think that's as soon as you start sharing it out.
Nathan Mumm:I mean, if you did it on your own privacy, I don't know.
Mike Gorday:It's essentially the same.
Nathan Mumm:Okay, right.
Mike Gorday:So if the same, okay, right. So if I, if I created a deep fake of you, yeah, you know, in a compromising don't don't wiggle your eyebrows at me buddy, okay, if I did that, if I put you on putin on a horse and then I started sharing it with just uh at least with me of friends okay that's, that's exactly the same thing. Okay, right, you can use my image anytime I know I'm not going to okay, all right. Oh, it's the last person I would deepfake would be you, wow.
Nathan Mumm:Okay. Well, let's go to story number three. That's why we're on the radio, that's right, google nukes.
Mike Gorday:Yeah, we have a face for radio, but we do have a live stream, that's right.
Nathan Mumm:Google nukes 224 Android malware apps behind a massive ad fraud campaign. We're going to be talking about ads a lot. You guys know that I hate ads, right, I hate ads.
Mike Gorday:I'm playing for the NFL red zone and I get ads during my NFL red zone.
Nathan Mumm:Oh my word.
Mike Gorday:Not until this happens 1,000, 2,000, 1,000, 3,000.
Nathan Mumm:My psychologist says that I need to count backwards.
Nathan Mumm:Massive Android ad fraud operation, dubbed as Slop Ads, was distributed over 224 malicious applications on the Google Play Store, which generated $2.3 billion ad requests per day.
Nathan Mumm:No-transcript, because it did hit the United States with 30% of the people of the 2.3 billion requests, 10% on India, 7% on Brazil, so it was actually not targeted specifically just at the United States, but a broad swoop of information.
Nathan Mumm:Now, the slop ads originally thought very what do you say intelligently on how they did this? Because if you actually take a look at these apps and you download them from the Play Store, none of these apps are compromised. So if you go and you find the app and you see it in the Google Play, it meets all the standards that Google has. But what happens is, a lot of times, in TikTok videos and in other reels and other areas, you get links to say, hey, go and download this app, or you get this through facebook, or even emails or or text download this app. When you actually, though, clicked on the link, what it did is it actually downloaded a module in front of the application, which was then used to control and configure encrypted configuration files that contained urls for ad fraud, malware modules, cash cash out servers and JavaScript payload.
Mike Gorday:Okay, all right. So what you were talking about the other day in our production meeting was that you're pretty sure that pretty much everybody has something on their Android phone.
Nathan Mumm:Yes, I believe almost everybody has AdWord on their Android phone.
Mike Gorday:All right. So how do you get it off?
Nathan Mumm:There's tools to get it off. Do you have Malwarebytes loaded on your phone?
Mike Gorday:What is Malwarebytes?
Nathan Mumm:Malwarebytes is an application you can load on your phone Android, iphone. It's a free version or a business version. It'll actually go through and scan and take a look if you have any of those compromised ads. There's a couple other tools, but I like Malwarebytes right, like malware bites right now, just because they they haven't kind of sold out in my opinion as some of these others. But if you actually scan and run that, you'll probably find out that you are compromised and have two or three items on there. You know what mike ask nick when nick is on the show, how he feels about android devices, because I think almost everyone's been compromised. I have an android phone and I have to run it because I won't even download stuff and I'll see NFL scores, I'll see this or see something come up, and then I'll say my phone starts running really, really slow again. And then I go and I search on it and boom, it's got stuff.
Mike Gorday:Well, I have a question that you may not have the answer to, but maybe it'll get to the Android folks. Okay, why doesn't Android put some anti-malware stuff on their phone in the first?
Nathan Mumm:place. Well, I think if you have like a verizon plan, they say that they come with their verizon protect and they charge you like nine bucks a month for it. T-mobile has a protection plan. Uh, because you can jailbreak these devices, you can go into the kernel and do different stuff. It's because it's a mini computer that android isn't as well adapted as, I would say, apple in their iOS to make sure that those things are taken care of. You know what? Let's ask. You ask Nick that okay, Mike.
Marc Gregoire:I don't know if it's well adapted versus iPhone is more closed architecture, Okay All right.
Mike Gorday:So I just looked at Malwarebytes. You have to do a free subscription for seven days.
Nathan Mumm:Yes, you do, yes, you do, yes, you do.
Mike Gorday:Is there anyone that works that you don't have to try?
Nathan Mumm:That's the only one I would try.
Marc Gregoire:There's ones that you don't have to pay for, Mike, but they have malware in them.
Nathan Mumm:Yeah, they have malware in them. You can download a free VPN service anytime you want.
Mike Gorday:All right.
Nathan Mumm:Well, that ends our top technology stories of the week. When we return, we have Nick Espinoza from Security Fanatics. He's going to be joining the show. We're going to ask him that Android question and he's going to expose some scams in advertising. You'll find that out. Next You're listening to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. We'll be right back after this commercial break.
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Nathan Mumm:All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. Our weekly show covers the top technology subjects without any political agenda. We do it by verifying the facts, with a little sense of humor and, of course, with a little whiskey on the side. Now, Mark Gregoire, I'm so glad to see you back in the studio. All right, it's been a while. I didn't know if it was my bad BO that was causing you to drift away or other things, but I'm glad you're back. Acknowledge the BO dude.
Marc Gregoire:Well, you know all nerdy people normally have a little bit of no, because then you'll stop hugging me.
Mike Gorday:That's right. Okay, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to get into the really super personal stuff, our little bromance.
Nathan Mumm:All right, mark, what have you chosen for us today?
Marc Gregoire:Today we're drinking Baker's Bourbon 13-year-old, limited edition single barrel. This is the 2025 release. Okay Now, from Beam's website, this extra age expression explores how time and location in the warehouse drives distinction from barrel to barrel. While the notes of every barrel of Baker's offers a unique tasting journey, you can expect a few defining characteristics Fruit, vanilla and caramel on the nose, medium-bodied in flavors of oak, toasted nuts with vanilla and fruity notes, with a finish that is robust, medium-long and warmly rounded.
Mike Gorday:Oh, very nice.
Marc Gregoire:Now for those whiskey nerds out there. This particular um barrel is zero zero, zero, two, seven, eight, two, one, three. So if you have that number, you're drinking the same barrel as us oh, how many barrels do you think are out there? I have no idea.
Nathan Mumm:Okay, so there's like one big, large bat, because I know I have a friend that does wine.
Marc Gregoire:Each barrel, depending on the yield, probably gives about 200 bottles.
Speaker 5:I'd say on average. I was going to say that.
Marc Gregoire:If they have 15,000 bottles across the US. You do the math. Okay, All right.
Mike Gorday:All right. So I scanned my phone with malware bytes. Yeah, how many threats do you think I have?
Nathan Mumm:You're very excited about this, so it must be zero.
Mike Gorday:It is zero. Okay, all right zero threats detected.
Nathan Mumm:Okay, okay, well, good job. So we'll have to take a look at what nick comes on next to do that. How about the whiskey? What is your taste on the whiskey there? Zero threats on the on the whiskey also.
Marc Gregoire:Yes, okay, threats well, he doesn't know about the whiskey yet, so let me tell you, mike, so you can be more excited. This is from beam cent Centauri. It's from the Jim Beam Distillery in Claremont, kentucky. It's a straight bourbon age 13 years old. It's 107 proof. The mash bill is 77% corn, 13% rye and 10% malted barley In this bottle. Msrp is around $150.
Mike Gorday:Very nice Because they give you a beautiful cork. Look at that cork. That's. Srp is around $150.
Marc Gregoire:Very nice Because they give you a beautiful cork. Look at that cork. That's a Nathan cork. That's a cork. That's a Nathan cork. That is a cork.
Nathan Mumm:I liked it from the very first sip and it's got a lingering little taste. I like it a lot.
Mike Gorday:All right, that's called a finish buddy.
Marc Gregoire:That is a finish Don tips. I like that.
Nathan Mumm:Tip us now, because that way we can put 25K of it I listened to last week.
Marc Gregoire:Did you listen to the show last week? I listened to your show.
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Marc Gregoire:Now drink responsibly. Heaven can wait, all right.
Nathan Mumm:Thank you so much, Mark. I love seeing you back in this.
Mike Gorday:What if heaven can't wait? I think he can wait, all right.
Nathan Mumm:Well, with our whiskey tasting completed, let's move on to our feature segment. Today, our technology expert, nick Espadosa, is joining the show. Nick is an expert in cybersecurity and network infrastructure. He's consulted with clients ranging from small business to the Fortune 100 level. In 1998, at the age of 19, nick founded Windy City Networks, which he later acquired in 2015, which was acquired in 2015. He then created Security Fanatics, where he serves as the chief security fanatic today. Let's get ready to start our next segment.
Speaker 1:Welcome to the segment we call Ask the Experts With our tech time radio expert, Nick Espinoza.
Nathan Mumm:All right, Nick, welcome back to the show. Tell everybody a little bit about yourself.
Nick Espinosa:Yeah, yeah, nick Espinoza, chief Security Fanatic of Security Fanatics. Hi Nick, hey guys, how you doing? And always happy to be here, always happy to hang out.
Marc Gregoire:Are you drinking anything today, Nick?
Nick Espinosa:No, just nursing a headache.
Nathan Mumm:Oh, nursing a headache.
Nick Espinosa:There's a headache, it's the season. What are you gonna do all?
Nathan Mumm:right, all right, nick, let's ask you the android question. Do you think most android phones are compromised?
Nick Espinosa:so the android question, I think, is actually a really interesting one, in the sense that android can be both super secure, way more secure than an iPhone, and it can be way less secure than an Apple iPhone as well, and it really depends on the maker, the junk they load on it, and also the user if they know what tools, technologies to put on, if they're using, basically like a hardening guide.
Nick Espinosa:So we use actually what is something called a STIG or Security Technical Implementation Guide that is put out by the Department of Defense, and they have one for Samsung, android, google Android, motorola Android, et cetera, even iPhones, and it is a really good checklist to go down and really start hardening a lot of the different settings and controls that you have in a mobile phone, because, to your point, it is just a computer, right, it just happens to be in your pocket and you happen to be able to make phone calls with it too. So, no, I don't have any malware. For the record, I also do not use Malwarebytes. I use Bitdefender and they are in the top three consistently on AV tests, which is out of Germany that test these things pretty much monthly for antiviral solutions specifically for Android, and they do, for the record, have a free version that will not make you pay.
Nathan Mumm:All right, nick, let's move on. We love Ferris Bueller's Day Off, right? So Ferris hacks into his grades and makes changes in a most impossible way ever, but back in the day, you know, you didn't know that. So you're like, oh, that's so cool, ferris Bueller did this, but we now have this becoming a serious problem, specifically in the UK. What is going on with this right now?
Nick Espinosa:Yes and Nathan, for the record, if any of you guys ever come to Chicago we can do the Ferris Bueller tour.
:OK.
Nick Espinosa:You can see all the places that the gang was at. But, yes, this is a fun one and, quite frankly, I think it's a little nuts. But the ICO, or Information Commissioner's Office in the UK, basically put out a report that said 57% of insider attacks at, like universities and whatnot, are the actual students figuring out how to get into stuff. Now, I don't know if that number is necessarily true or not, but they say since 2022, that essentially has been the issue. They looked at 215 incidents in schools, colleges, universities and all that kind of stuff, and so this actually is a big issue. Right, because students are trying to innovate and this was me at 14, right, I was basically well, my school ran Novell NetWare and had AOL dial-up, so that was easy to get into.
Nick Espinosa:But the point is that I think personally they should be getting training. There is obviously some kind of inspiration here, some kind of requisite knowledge, some kind of curiosity that if the UK school system, or any school system, was smart about, they'd actually start fostering this kind of education and say, hey, there's something here, let's put them through these kinds of classes, get them educated in security. On top of it, give them morals and ethics classes so they don't go the wrong way. But I think overarchingly this is really interesting. But I think it also shows that the kids aren't just sitting on the couch scrolling through videos. There's an actual aptitude here that if we ignore I think it's to our detriment in the cybersecurity field.
Nathan Mumm:Yeah, I totally hear you. So let me ask you the next thing. We talked about the Android hack, right? Yeah, all right. So now let's talk about what is coming up with all these ads. Every company is doing more and more and more ads. What can we do to figure out a way that we don't have all of these ads that are available and what's going on?
Mike Gorday:Throw your phone away.
Nick Espinosa:So I literally just did a video the other day basically stating we're never going to get rid of ads. We were never going to get it. They are trying to monetize absolutely everything. You know. Even I promise you Mark Zuckerberg's new glasses and all that.
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Nathan Mumm:What a perfect, what a perfect fail. Online Right.
Nick Espinosa:Okay, I didn't want to, I blew it, I guess, sorry but keep on telling us more ads it's all right, but but yeah, I mean. So if you look at it, we have ads coming in Windows 11 now.
Nathan Mumm:A Windows 11, an operating system? Yeah, yeah, so explain this to me. So I pay for Windows 11, right? Well, actually, what's really interesting is I don't have to pay for Windows 11 because Windows 10 is going to be around now for another three years with security updates, and then after that it'll be around for another three years because they've made promises to people that it was the last operating system which they're in trouble with. But if you do upgrade to Windows 11, I pay for that operating system to upgrade. I pay to have that running on my system. You're telling me I'm going to get ads in this.
Nick Espinosa:Yeah, so here's the interesting part about this. So if you have a Microsoft 365 subscription with Windows 11 and they really, really want you to have that, right.
Nick Espinosa:Essentially, as it starts to end right, you're coming up to that period you may start seeing full screen ads in Windows 11. And so this is essentially what happened. On September 12th, like this past Friday, like a week ago, microsoft basically released a preview build. These are the builds that journalists get, that IT teams get, that developers get, so we can kind of see what's coming in Windows, and it contains something called a Scoob, which is a second chance out-of-box experience, a second chance up out of box experience. So so that's basically what it is. It's a full screen thing you can't get away from unless you interact with it, and it's there just to nag you essentially to to buy microsoft stuff or to renew microsoft stuff so I actually have that on my office 365 a lot of lawsuits coming down, the down the I have an ad
Nathan Mumm:that popped up. I have windows 11. This actually happened to me. So this is exactly office 365 on an account. I shut it down and so what happened is when I relaunched that pc, it said hey, you know what? You don't have a current active license. Do you know what I got in the os at the very bottom of the bar. It actually came from the bottom of the bar, loaded up, and it says you need to now or these are your three options you can do the cloud version, you can do this, you can do this. And I could not get out. There was no X button to get rid of it either. So I'm like what I all tabbed over to try to get rid of it. I got so mad at it I had to restart the machine to have it take it. I could. I'm on the earlier build, so I do have my Windows Update settings set to get early builds instead of just the release builds that were out there. But was that the actual service, nick, that I actually saw?
Nick Espinosa:So it might be so from Microsoft, and this is directly their release notes, and I quote Microsoft right now, we're introducing a simple reminder that appears as a scoop screen to let you know that your Microsoft subscription needs attention. For example, if renewal payment didn't go through, in just a few clicks you can review and update your payment method and keep your subscription benefits uninterrupted. So, yes, you're going to have to click through things. Even if you're like, say, you know what I'm going open source for GetMicrosoftOffice, I don't want these annoying ads, they're going to give them to you, so this isn't cool. Now, to be fair to Microsoft, this is a preview build right so they might get feedback. You know, to Mike's point, they might get sued and this goes away, but this is what we're seeing over and over and over from every company. I mean not to throw Microsoft under the bus here. We should throw all of them under the bus, and that's the name of the game, right? Advertising is the core of the internet and why the Facebooks of the world are free.
Nathan Mumm:Okay, so I have Alexa device. Do you understand? Alexa device now runs commercials and when I ask it to play something I'll say like play my music. It gives me a 15 second commercial before it plays my music. I paid for that freaking Alexa device. I have it hooked up to my freaking thing. Why is?
Marc Gregoire:it when I Is he bitching? Yeah, he paid for the device, but you didn't pay for the subscription.
Nathan Mumm:The subscription service is a part of when you buy the device itself.
Marc Gregoire:I shouldn't say, play my favorite 80s music and then get a 15-second ad.
Nathan Mumm:I'm not paying for Spotify.
Mike Gorday:It's not a Spotify service. It's the same thing as watching something on Prime Video now and you have to sit through three minutes of commercials before you see the damn show.
Nick Espinosa:Or you pay Amazon a few dollars more a month and they'll get rid of it. The lock screen on a Kindle is an advertisement. Unless you pay Amazon like 20, 30 bucks, you can pay for a YouTube premium subscription and you still get ads.
Mike Gorday:At some point, somebody's going to figure out that this is extortion and they're going to do something about it.
Nathan Mumm:Really. So I keep on looking. So here's what we need to create. We need to create a lawsuit against technology companies that are class action. Just one website that everybody can get involved in because you have the Google payouts. You have these payouts. There's no way to ever find all this information, unless you're like a real tech nerdy like myself and go through. There should be a website that has every class action against technology sites that everybody can sign up for.
Marc Gregoire:Sure, you know all the technology companies would actually like that. I don't think they really prefer to run ads or doing that, because they offer it for free, because Americans don't want to pay additional costs. If you pass that law, then they have the right and everybody starts doing the plus model to charge you and then you're going to get everybody complaining. All right Charge now you're going to move to a different platform.
Nick Espinosa:But I think Nathan's right. I mean, one of my many day jobs is I occasionally lecture at law schools like Loyola Law School down in Chicago and got into a really interesting debate about this that when you have essentially a legal system like today's Congress that can't even vote on what to have for lunch, class action lawsuits are one of those ways that actually shape and craft law, because all the other companies like if we sue microsoft for this, google then sees it and says, oh, we shouldn't do that either. Right, so so there is guidance for that, you know, in due to class action lawsuits. Now, that said, you know if we have a billion dollar class action lawsuit, we're getting 30 and our lawyers are getting 500 million.
Mike Gorday:Yeah, I just got a. I just got a 30 payout from the facebook thing, like five years ago, yeah, so nick.
Marc Gregoire:I agree with you about class action. Lawsuits are a way that, as individuals, what we can move the needle. But do we want to move this needle? I think is more of the debate. We don't want ads, but we also don't want to pay for subscriptions. Well, that's true.
Nick Espinosa:Yeah, but I think there's a balance to be made there, and if you are paying for, let's say, a premium service, you're paying for that privilege. Then ads should be removed, exactly. But that's the thing. So you go on YouTube and then you're listening to somebody and they say, oh, and, by the way, buy this protein shake, and blah, blah, blah. Well, dude, it's not an official ad, but you're literally advertising to something that I'm listening to in an ad break and and the google sensors don't pick it up on youtube, right?
Marc Gregoire:no, but that's how those, those guys get paid.
Nick Espinosa:Yeah, okay, I get that I get that at the same token, though, you're also monetized through youtube. Right, you have enough subscribers, youtube starts paying you for that well you know, now you need tips.
Nathan Mumm:Now you need tips because now they're taking them there's a balance there somewhere.
Nick Espinosa:We just, we just everybody's suing everybody. I mean we live in the united states that's right.
Nathan Mumm:All right, the last thing. So we're not going to get to our our very last, last question, which would admit we're gonna have to come back, and we'll do that as a teaser for next time you're on. But let's talk about samsung.
Mike Gorday:Okay, so we just picked on somebody else, why are are you bagging on Samsung?
Nathan Mumm:Well, you know what, nick? Tell me. What is Samsung deciding to do specifically with ads?
Nick Espinosa:Yeah, so that video I put out on YouTube and please subscribe. I need the money. No, okay, basically, what Samsung is doing and this drives me up a wall, but it's why I did the video of We'll Never Escape Ads is, if you have samsung refrigerator with that really cool lcd panel, they're now putting ads on those as well. So here we are your, your fridge is going to advertise for you. And, interestingly enough, if you want to talk about samsung android phones as well because I have samsung androids and a couple of other phones as well, we have all types of phones here. I now in the newer releases of android on sam, where you have the notification bar like oh, you have a text, you have this. I'm now getting Samsung ads on those as well.
Marc Gregoire:So, so, so yeah.
Nick Espinosa:Samsung is going all in.
Marc Gregoire:All right. So once my fridge starts doing ads, that's it. We're breaking up.
Mike Gorday:We're not dating anymore.
Nathan Mumm:I'm just glad that I'm so old that I'm looking at the the door out of the frigid hair. The simple one, all right. So you know what? Let's go real quick. There's a new study coming out of cambridge that says ai is helping with child development. Nick, in two minutes, give us what is going on here and how is ai helping all of our child development.
Nick Espinosa:Yeah, yeah. So the questions that these researchers are asking are awesome, like do AI toys affirm love and friendship to a child and what does that mean for a child's human relationships? In other words, the AI doesn't have emotion, but can it be friendly? But that's not the same as human interaction. Do AI toys share children's conversations with parents or even third parties? And so what does that look like for a child's right to privacy? And if the child knows everything is being recorded, it fundamentally changes their concept of privacy. Like all these different kinds of questions are being asked.
Nick Espinosa:I'm calling it now that if AI is basically introduced in a childhood development, it's going to fundamentally alter how we develop as humans, and Mike probably can answer that more effectively given his background. But the point is is these are the kinds of things that we have to longitudinally look at, because AI is getting integrated into everything. And if you've got kids where the parents are completely ignoring them but they have an AI teddy bear or whatever, that's a fundamental shift and not just parenting but childhood development, and I think it's quite frankly, that's a little scary.
Mike Gorday:It's a lot of scary. It's a lot of scary. It's not just a little, it's a lot, all right.
Nick Espinosa:Yeah, you'd know better.
Nathan Mumm:All right, well, you know what, maybe Mike's mesmerizing moment we will discuss. I already know you're going to ask me Unpack this a little bit more. All right, nick, on the show, it's always a pleasure to talk with us. Please tell how listeners can connect with you outside the show and tip you. That's right, we always want tips now, since you can write these up.
Nick Espinosa:You can send money to the Save the Nick Foundation. No, please. You can like share. Follow me Facebook, twitter, linkedin. Slash Nick Espinoza or slash Nick.
Marc Gregoire:AESP.
Nick Espinosa:Blue Sky as well for the preview there.
Nathan Mumm:All right, nick we thank you so much for being a part of our show. Thanks guys. All right, we always love having Nick on the show. He helps us immensely with all of our technology items.
Mike Gorday:And drinking.
Nathan Mumm:You like him drinking too.
Mike Gorday:Every time I talk to Nick I drink more. All right, you're welcome. That ends our segment. Ask the Expert with Nick Every time.
Nick Espinosa:I talk to Nick, I drink more All right, all right.
Nathan Mumm:You're welcome, All right. Well, that ends our segment. Ask the Expert with Nick Up. Now we have Mike's mesmerizing moment. Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment. What does Mike have to say today? All right, Mike, should AI be a part of child development?
Mike Gorday:No.
Nathan Mumm:What Explain that to me? Why are you saying that I'm in?
Marc Gregoire:disagreement here. Okay.
Mike Gorday:Mark says yes, let's hear Mark. Okay, mark, what's your take on?
Marc Gregoire:this Because I don't think it's an absolute. Yes, I don't think it's an absolute. No, ai is going to be here, so I like what Nick talked about, how they're studying it and we can put safeguards around it. It's going to come, so let's do it in the most integrative, productive way. I don't agree that it should take the place of parents, but that's what's happening. That is a problem. I agree with you that it's a problem.
Mike Gorday:This is a smaller addition to a greater problem, because we've already done that. We've already given our kids over to, uh, different forms of childhood development. We're giving kids phones when they're like five years old, okay, and they're becoming screen junkies, yeah, and and why? Why is that a good thing for parents? Because they don't have to.
Nathan Mumm:It's like when it's like, it's like a babysitter, it's you don't have to pay attention to like when it's like, it's like a babysitter it's you don't have to pay attention to your kid. I was at a restaurant. It is. That's exactly throw a tablet there and say, kid, I'm not going to talk to you.
Mike Gorday:That's right. And so we've already used this technology and our technological innovations to decrease the amount of interactions that we're getting with with people and not just people, but children and so we're just adding this new piece instead of saying, oh, here's a phone, here's like, uh teddy from the movie ai okay, teddy okay right, that was. That was. That was cool. He was like this teddy bear that how about teddy ruxpin?
Nathan Mumm:was that ai?
Mike Gorday:no, that was an ai, that was, that was an animatronic okay, okay, but it had a cassette tape, it had a cassette tape, but it was. That's sort of the I guess, the proto-vision of what we're looking at here. We're looking at AI toys that are going to interact with your child. It's like the stupid robots that interact with people.
Marc Gregoire:In the old folks' homes.
Mike Gorday:You know that that's it's. It's not human development, it is human replacement okay, and because, we anthropomorphize things. We're going to start having pair relationships with these items such that they're going to start replacing they're already replacing legitimate human interactions, Okay. And we're seeing it just with these dating AIs, where these guys are going on apps to date something that doesn't exist because the app gives them automatic positive regard all the time. Okay.
Marc Gregoire:So in that we're in 100% agreement. I wouldn't want AI in children's toys to replace the parenting yeah, now to go back to my original.
Mike Gorday:No, there's always benefits to the tool. Okay, but it depends on how the tool is used Absolutely.
Marc Gregoire:Makes sense.
Nathan Mumm:All right, thank you, mike, for that mesmerizing moment. Up next we have this Week in Technology, so now would be a great time to enjoy a little whiskey on the side, as we will be doing so during the break. You're listening to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm. See you in a few minutes. Hey, mike, yeah what's up?
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Nathan Mumm:And now let's look back at this week in technology. All right, this week in technology we're going to September 24th, 1979. Compuserve launches the first consumer-orientated online information service, which they called Micronet. Now, this marked the first time a consumer had access to services such as email. The service was not favored internally within the business-orientated space, but CompuServe became the service that was such a hit that it was renamed CompuServe Information Service, or CIS, and became a consumer heaven. By the mid-1980s, compuserve was the largest consumer information service in the world, and half of the revenue came from CIS. In 1989, though, compuserve connected its proprietary email system to this thing called the internet, and then email took off, making it the first commercial internet service available to send email. However, compuserve did not compete well with this other company called America Online or independent internet service providers that were all across the world in the 1990s, and it soon lost its dominant market position. Do you remember CompuServe Uh-huh Mark. Market position? You remember compu serve uh-huh mark do you?
Nathan Mumm:remember compu serve? Oh yeah, all right, that was a pretty good service, but you know what? It did not send out a hundred thousand million, trillion cds in every single thing like america online did that, understood. It wasn't about service and it wasn't about what you had. It was about, uh, hitting the market with everything, free for hours. Now back then you had to pay for an internet service provider. Now the internet, you get it from a Comcast or a large distributor.
Mike Gorday:That you still pay for. You're still paying for it. You still pay for it A lot more.
Nathan Mumm:But you actually got services back then so they actually created stories, news, information for you. So when you would actually dial into these services, they would give you kind of the news of the day, cause they didn't have the CNNs online or the MSNBCs online. This is where you got your news and your fast breaking information of what was going on.
Marc Gregoire:I'm curious Did you use AOL or Mike? Did any of you have an idea? I did not. Did you use AOL?
Nathan Mumm:or Mike. Did any of you have an AOL? I did not. I did, I used AOL for a bit.
Mike Gorday:I used the disks. Did you? Yeah, I used to make things out of them and throw them at my kids.
Nathan Mumm:Did you put them in your microwave?
Marc Gregoire:I never put them in my microwave. You're the only one that used AOL.
Nathan Mumm:I did use AOL for a bit, but then I went to an internet service provider that was local and it was a little bit better.
Mike Gorday:I use a local ISP. I still have my original ISP email. Yeah yeah, I still pay for it every year.
Nathan Mumm:Remember Blue Light came on out. Kmart had its Blue Light service that was available, and then they had Juno and they had all these other services across. Alright, well, that was this week in technology. We could spend seven hours talking about what it used to be back in the olden days. But if you want to see some Tech Time history, you can visit us online at techtimeradiocom and watch our older podcast video and blog information. We're going to take a commercial break. When we return, we have our Mark Mumble Whiskey Review. See you after this.
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Speaker 1:Print copies available on amazon the book pository and more the segment we've been waiting all week for mark's whiskey mumble all right, I'm excited all right, so am I.
Nathan Mumm:What do we got?
Marc Gregoire:number 23rd. So mike made a nice comment last week that I listened to, where he said when I tie in the whiskey to the day, that I'm very innovative about it, unlike Nathan's pairing.
Nathan Mumm:So I appreciate that oh wow.
Marc Gregoire:Unfortunately, Mike, I might let you down today. It's very basic today. You can probably even guess what today is. Today is I have a headache day. No no no, it ties to our whiskey.
Nathan Mumm:Oh, bakers, is it like a?
Mike Gorday:baker's dozen National Baker's Day.
Marc Gregoire:Bingo National Baker Day. Way to go. Baker is an old English origin. The word bake on, but not C-O-N, it's C-A-N, which means to dry by heat, that is, to bake. It originated before the 8th century. It was primarily used as an occupational name for people who bake bread or bricks. So the popular belief is that the name was used to refer to the owner of a communal oven who was in charge of it for a village. Okay, now, with that, we are drinking today Baker's 13-year-old bourbon, which is named for Baker Beam, the truck-driving, motorcycle-riding grandnephew of the legendary Jim Beam, with each bottle from a single barrel. Baker's 13-year-old is, unapologetically, man, I can't pronounce. I am not unapologetically.
Nathan Mumm:You're Nathan, what? Nathan said it I'm here to help you out.
Marc Gregoire:I finished my glass of whiskey and I am stumbling. You are Nathan Pecan pecan tomato, tomato.
Mike Gorday:There you go, that's right.
Marc Gregoire:Now, I do not usually drink bean products as I find their peanut profile too overwhelming, getting into peanut butter, which I don't care for Really.
Mike Gorday:No, screwball peanut whiskey. Screwball peanut butter whiskey.
Marc Gregoire:So when I go into a liquor store and I see screwball on the top shelf, I walk out immediately. Wow, Now Baker's 13.
:So much hate.
Marc Gregoire:I got it all built in.
:I haven't been here for a few months, I guess so I get you Okay.
Marc Gregoire:Baker's 13 is an exception. It is a focused single barrel bourbon that leans into warm oak, lots of sugar and caramel with just a hint of nuttiness. The dry rice spice keeps the profile from feeling overly sweet or muddled. The finish is long, slightly tannic and quietly spiced it rewards a slow, neat pour.
Nathan Mumm:Okay, I like it All right, anything else to say there, mike, no, okay, you know what guys?
Marc Gregoire:Mike has else to say there, mike, no, okay, you know what guys?
Mike Gorday:Mike has nothing to say because his glass is empty, my glass is yeah.
Nathan Mumm:Whiskey and technology are such a great pairing, kind of like the Mariners baseball team trying to get into the postseason.
Mike Gorday:You never know if it's going to happen. How is that a pairing?
Nathan Mumm:That's the end of the season for baseball. Theattle mariners never have a good enough team to just be ahead of it. They always have to come into the last two, three, four games and try to win it at the last series I think this is you trying to be innovative um, this is just me being saying what whiskey and technology are like a great pairing. It's like copy and paste, is it okay? You love that one, you love that.
Mike Gorday:You know that's an easy, that's an easy, that's an easy.
Nathan Mumm:I can't say that every week. No, no.
Mike Gorday:But you don't have to go way into Mariners trying to get into the blah blah.
Nathan Mumm:All right, let's move on to our technology fail of the week. Congratulations, you're a failure.
Speaker 5:Oh, I failed. Did I yes, did I yes.
Nathan Mumm:All right. Technology fail is coming from your buddy, Mark.
:Zuckerberg yes, we had a field day with this one, his.
Nathan Mumm:AI classes live demo failed spectacular at a major tech event. Not only did the first demo fail, but his follow-up demo after he said okay, this isn't going to work, we're going to go to our second demo. That one failed also. So he was like 0 for 2. And if you're a baseball player in the Mariners, 0 for 2 is normally what happens after the first two pitches you get.
Nathan Mumm:Tech experts say the AI was clearly confused and jumped around due to thousands of Wi-Fi simultaneous connections that were happening at this tech demo. Now Zuckerberg's AI glasses demo failed at the meta event that they said was going to be packed with AI information. Now, the Connect 2025 keynote was absolutely hilarious and you need to go watch the video Connect 2025 keynote See Zuckerberg on stage going well, it should be doing this. It shouldn't be doing this. It should be doing this. The device that they were trying to show was the meta Ray-Ban display, priced at $799. It's pitched as the breakthrough in wearable AI technology, except for if you have a lot of internet connections that are trying to connect to it.
Mike Gorday:I guess you don't want to do that. It certainly was a breakthrough.
Nathan Mumm:Yeah well, guess what? Zuckerberg's two demos fails left the Meta's new glasses slightly less polished in front of the hundreds of people, and there was laughing and giggling in people that couldn't believe it. Now this is a note for you. If you notice, apple no longer does live presentations at their keynotes. They'll have Tim Cook come on out and talk for 30 seconds or so, then he goes behind the stage and you watch a pre-made video, so they have total control over it and you can see what happens.
Mike Gorday:Note to self Is Zuckerberg have total control over it and you can see what happens. Yeah, note to self is zuckerberg gonna take this advice.
Nathan Mumm:Yes, coming on. Yeah, note to self if you're doing a live tech demo, in today's world, there are so many things that can go wrong. Even if you've done all the testing and you've done all this, you know what? Get that pre-recorded video. Show what you're trying to do with the device, because nothing's more embarrassing than standing on stage saying, oh, let's try it again, let's try it again, let's try it again, let's try it again. Let's try it again.
Mike Gorday:If he's smart, he can turn this around, because this is a great learning atmosphere.
Nathan Mumm:Uh-huh that they've never tested their glasses with internet Wi-Fi signals that would jump around. Yeah, that's a common thing that you would have. Let's now move into our whiskey tasting.
Speaker 1:And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings. Let's see what bubbles to the top all right what do we?
Marc Gregoire:have mark. We are drinking baker's bourbon 13 year old, it is 107 proof 150 dollars um I'm really liking this.
Mike Gorday:I am going to give this a thumbs up okay well I'm a fan of jim beam already, so um this, this was really good thoroughly been enjoying that was whiskey, chris, and all of them had a shot at tasting this.
Marc Gregoire:No well, I've already saved two ounces for whiskey, chris. Okay and uh to my qfc lee. That supplies us a lot our bottles. I've already given him a few samples. Okay, all right?
Nathan Mumm:Well, you know what, Mike, we're about out of time.
Mike Gorday:No way.
Nathan Mumm:Yeah, what are we going to do?
Mike Gorday:We're going to. We're going to say goodbye.
Nathan Mumm:We're going to close the show out.
Mike Gorday:We'll talk about your.
Nathan Mumm:We'll talk about my white fighter, my white Talk about my what Street fighter?
Nathan Mumm:Wait, what Street fighter? Street fighter? No, we're not going to talk about the street fighter. We ran out of time. We want to thank our listeners for joining the program. Listeners, we want to hear from you, so visit us at techtimeradiocom. Click on, be A Caller and ask us a question so that we can stay up to date on your technology question needs. It was an honor to be a host of today's show. Each week, we are here to decode the technology that shapes your world. One breach, breakthrough and bourbon at a time, from all of us. I will see you next week Later. Bye-bye.
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