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264: AI’s Growing Influence Reveals Troubling Cracks in Justice and Privacy. Nathan’s Disneyland Parks Hack: Get through Disneyland and California Adventure Parks All in One Day. DaVita 2.7 Million Patients Compromised | Air Date: 8/26 - 9/1/25

• Nathan Mumm • Season 7 • Episode 264

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The digital world's most alarming vulnerabilities take center stage as we dive into how AI is compromising our justice systems and personal privacy. A senior Australian lawyer shocked the court by submitting AI-generated fake legal citations in a murder trial, with both defense and prosecution failing to verify their accuracy—revealing how our cognitive shortcuts create dangerous blindspots when working with artificial intelligence.

Privacy breaches continue their relentless march as hundreds of thousands of conversations with Elon Musk's Grok AI chatbot were exposed through Google search results. These breaches, containing sensitive information from drug manufacturing instructions to medical advice, highlight our growing acceptance of data vulnerabilities as the new normal. The question looms: have we become so desensitized to privacy failures that we no longer demand accountability?

Meanwhile, a major ransomware attack on kidney dialysis firm DaVita compromised nearly 2.7 million patients' personal and health information, including social security numbers and even images of personal checks. Most troubling was the months-long delay in disclosure, leaving affected individuals vulnerable without their knowledge.

On a lighter note, we say goodbye to a technological relic as AOL's dial-up internet service finally powers down after running since 1989, and Nathan shares his ingenious Disney parks hack—booking rides that commonly break down to score unlimited Lightning Lane passes for both Disneyland and California Adventure in a single day.

Join us as we examine these technological turning points while enjoying Remus Single Barrel Straight Bourbon Whiskey. Is it time to consider a pay-for-privacy model, or is guaranteed digital security simply another empty promise? Subscribe now to join the conversation about technology's impact on our everyday lives.

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Speaker 1:

Broadcasting across the nation, from the East Coast to the West, keeping you up to date on technology while enjoying a little whiskey on the side, with leading edge topics, along with special guests to navigate technology in a segmented, stylized radio program. The information that will make you go, mmm. Pull up a seat, raise a glass with our hosts as we spend the next hour talking about technology for the common person. Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm.

Nathan Mumm:

Welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. The show that makes you go mmm. Technology news of the week. The show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mumm, your host and technologist, with over 30 years of technology expertise. Our co-host, mike Rode, is in the studio. He's an award-winning author and human behavior expert.

Nathan Mumm:

Mr Gregoire, our whiskey connoisseur, is MIA, or so I'd say, probably missing in the action due to a cold. So we have Odie Sick in action. Sick in action, sia. Is that a sick in action SIA? All right, now we're live streaming during our show on four of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, twitchtv, facebook and LinkedIn. We encourage you to visit us online at techtimeradiocom to become a Patreon supporter at patreoncom. Forward slash techtimeradio. We're friends from different backgrounds. We bring the best technology show possible weekly for our family, friends and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have Odi, our producer, at the control panel today. Welcome everyone. Let's start today's show.

Speaker 1:

Now on today's show.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Today on the show show, we have our letter segment. This is our funny yet informative reading of emails that I received and were submitted to me during the week. This includes scams, phishing emails, texting scams and all-out mistruths. In addition to that, we have our standard features, including mike's mesmerizing moment, our technology fail fail of the week, a possible Nathan Nugget absolutely a Nathan Nugget today and, of course, our pick of the day whiskey tasting to see if our selected whiskey pick gets zero, one or two thumbs up by the end of the show. But now it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology.

Speaker 1:

Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, Mike, here is what we got. Our first story Hundreds of thousands of Grok chats exposed in Google results. Let's go to Lisa Walker for more on the story.

Speaker 5:

Hundreds of thousands of user conversations with Elon Musk's artificial intelligence AI chatbot, grok, have been exposed to the world. These unique links are created when Grok users press a button to share a transcript of their conversation, but as well as sharing the chat with the intended recipient, the button also appears to have made the chats searchable online. A Google search on Thursday of last week revealed it had indexed nearly 300,000 Grok conversations. Earlier this year, meta also faced criticism after shared users' conversations with its chatbot. Meta AI appeared in a public Discover feed on its app. Should people think that their AI chats are private, back to you guys in the studio.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, mike, let's talk about this. Should your AI chats be private that are out there? I absolutely think they should be, but this is kind of getting into a dilemma. The internet that we're so used to is free, right, so we're all used to getting everything for free how is it free?

Mike Gorday:

I pay for it.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, you pay for your internet connective services to comcast, right, yeah, okay, or whatever provider. But as far as the actual use of tools and services on the internet take, for instance, like facebook and google, search and other aspects, of it.

Mike Gorday:

We all know they're not free. We all know that we're paying our information to those okay okay, so.

Nathan Mumm:

So we should be okay with that. So if we all of a sudden get an announcement that grok, I don't know if we should be okay with that, but you know, that's the way it is okay, so, so, okay, well, so privacy is a disaster right now.

Nathan Mumm:

If you went and took a look at some of the leaked transcripts from Grok, which kind of makes sense on any of these social media AI platforms an example of it was a chatbot that detailed instructions on how to make a class a drug in a lab, uh talked about how to uh create secure password, provide meal plans for weight loss and answer detailed questions about medical conditions. We're all part of the breach that happens. My question that I keep on pondering back and forth is experts say, once your information is linked on line, it's there forever, which we've always talked about. Once it's been in online format, there's going to be somebody that made a backup of a backup, of a backup. So absolutely it's going to be there. But is our technology now at the point where we have a data breach? We no longer care about what's happening? That's kind of my question and answer, because now these AI breaches happen all the time there's no penalty, so we've been doing this show for how long now?

Nathan Mumm:

This is our seventh season, so we're going on year six.

Mike Gorday:

Okay. So we have how many data breaches that we talk about? We talk about data breaches almost every week, every week, yes, okay. So when you say people just don't listen anymore, that's probably true because we found out the data breaches are happening all the time, okay, and there's nothing we can do about it. It's a service that we've become to depend on, so probably for most people it's just sort of the uh well, uh, I still have to use the internet, so if they got all my privacy and information, that's not going to matter until, of course, somebody steals their identity and ruins their financial life.

Nathan Mumm:

Have you heard about this new thing that's happening? Are coming on in and they're going and forging documents and they're taking out loans on different aspects of that house that was already purchased. We're getting to a point now where the cyber crimes are coming at people that are even done and don't have any debt that's available out there.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah Well, you know, we have created something in our human ingenuity that we cannot control, nor do we understand. So that's just going to be, that's just going to continue to happen.

Ody:

OK.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, that's, that's. And you know it's always fun to start off the start off the show with talking about AI, because that's my favorite subject.

Nathan Mumm:

Is it your favorite subject? Yeah, all right. Well, guess what? Let's talk about story number two. This is your story, mike, I think you're gonna love this. Yeah, I'm gonna love this one because guess what? What are we gonna be talking about? A?

Mike Gorday:

little. More ai stuff, more ai stuff, yep, yep. A senior lawyer in australia has apologized to a judge for filing submissions in a murder case that included fake quotes and non-existent case judgments generated by ai. Oh boy, oh boy. So the blunder in the supreme court of victoria state is another one in the litany of mishaps ai has caused in justice systems around the world. Defense lawyer rishi nathwani, who holds the prestigious legal title of king's Counsel, took full responsibility quote for filing incorrect information and submissions in the case of a teenager charged with murder, according to court documents seen by the Associated Press on Friday. We are deeply sorry and embarrassed for what occurred. Nathwani told Justice James Elliott on Wednesday on behalf of the defense team. The AI-generated errors caused a 24-hour delay in resolving a case that Elliott had hoped to conclude on Wednesday. Elliott ruled on Thursday that Nathwani's client, who cannot be identified because he's a minor, was not guilty of murder because of mental impairment. At the risk of understatement, the manner in which these events have unfolded is unsatisfactory, he told lawyers.

Mike Gorday:

The ability of the court to rely on the accuracy of submissions made by counsel is fundamental to the due administration of justice. The fake submissions included fabricated quotes from a speech to the state legislature and non-existent case citations purportedly from the Supreme Court of Australia. The errors were discovered by Elliott's associates who couldn't find the cases and requested that the defense lawyer provide copies. The lawyers then admitted the citations did not exist and that the submission contained fictitious quotes, and then they checked that the initial citations were accurate and wrongly assumed the others would also be correct. The submissions were also sent to the prosecutor, who didn't check their accuracy either. Okay, so let's talk about that.

Nathan Mumm:

So you had the defense and and the prosecuting have ai generated, quotes submitted and both of them are too lazy or too busy or too burdened to actually verify that those quotes were valid.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, so it's a part of our brain. Yeah, so our brain works on a system called heurism, which means that it finds the quickest answer that it can to do what it needs to do.

Mike Gorday:

Okay the quickest answer that it can to do what it needs to do. Okay, so if you have something that's generated a ai generated stuff, yeah and you look and you see one of the quotes is correct, the likelihood that you're going to check all the quotes becomes non-existence because the piece of your brain goes oh look, it's right. And we always also have this problem with if it's written, we sort of believe it okay so yeah all right, so both of them.

Nathan Mumm:

So both of them failed, so it wasn't like one. So the one created the ai generated information. Well, this and. And then pass it on to the prosecutor, who looked at it and said, okay, well, it looks valid too. So they, they both took those documents to court and both had them in their process of being correct.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, they did. What people do and this is the problem with using AI is it's not necessarily the AI Okay, well, it is, because the AI generates the false information, but it's the human interaction with the AI that makes it so dangerous. This is why I have a huge problem with this, because not only are we creating the AI to do these things and we can't anticipate what the AI will do, because we're not that smart, yep, then we come along and interpret the data in the way we interpret it and then we base decisions on that data, which is showing over and over and over again that it can be false. And because we don't think to check on these things, we are making decisions that these are life-changing decisions for a murder case right.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, if they had not found this out, what would have been the decision on this kid who was not guilty by reason of mental deficiency?

Nathan Mumm:

I don't know. I guess you'd go back to court again and say, hey, this information was I don't know.

Mike Gorday:

Well, if it wasn't found out, he might have been convicted. He might have been stuck into that system where he was wrongly, wrongly convicted. Yep, so you know, I don't know. I I think you give me these stories just so you can. You can hear me betch about it I don't know.

Nathan Mumm:

That's all right, it's okay. Well, because I I did you notice that I like how they said, the court documents did not identify the AI system used by the lawyer. So now what's happening is AI systems are like you know what if you use our system and it?

Mike Gorday:

comes up incorrectly, don't say yes. It's like shh, don't tell them. I told you that that's right. The secret knock. The secret AI AI Well you could Google Grok and see if you can come up with the chats.

Nathan Mumm:

So what happens is, let me just tell you, Grok is kind of interesting because ChatGPT is my go-to right and I like Sam Altman and I like OpenAI as the company, so that's kind of my fave.

Mike Gorday:

Not a reason to like.

Nathan Mumm:

AI buddy.

Mike Gorday:

Well, not a reason.

Nathan Mumm:

Let me just tell you this but grok is coming up in the world. They're actually getting pretty good in their ai stuff. So having these issues come on out makes sense and I can see how do you how do you?

Mike Gorday:

okay, so this is just a question for you how do you rate them? How do you make that determination that something is getting good? Uh, how is? How are you? How are you? Because?

Nathan Mumm:

all these instances, user activity is increasing.

Mike Gorday:

Oh okay, Because user activity is increasing, that means it's getting better.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, so it's getting more use. Maybe I should say I don't know if it's getting better, but it's becoming more sought after and used than it started out as yeah bad idea, folks Okay. All right. Well, guess what? Aol's beep. You know, what that sound is. That's a modem I think that's you having a digestive problem.

Nathan Mumm:

That's a modem. That's the sound of the beeps and the boops of AOL's dial-up internet service. Say buh-bye to the mode. And that's the sound of the beeps and the boops of AOL's dial-up internet service. Say buh-bye to the beeps and boops, as AOL's dial-up service is about to end.

Mike Gorday:

Is the dial-up service ending, or just the noise?

Nathan Mumm:

No, no, no the dial-up service dial-up for AOL will cease to operate September 30th of this year.

Mike Gorday:

I did not know that AOL still had dial-up service.

Nathan Mumm:

They did. Aol routinely evaluates its products. This is what they said. It's been running since the 1990s, right, trying to connect to the internet has been okay, so routinely is every 20 years, is that?

Mike Gorday:

was that routinely is every 20 years.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't know. I mean, come on. Aol routinely evaluates its products and services. Decided discontinued dial-up internet the website. The website said the service will end september 30th. What is Decided to discontinue dial-up internet? The website said the service will end September 30th. What is dial-up? What is dial-up? Dial-up uses a modem to convert digital data from a computer into analog signals which can travel over standard phone lines. Users have to plug their computer into a phone jack and install software that allows the computer and dial-up service to communicate.

Speaker 2:

Why are you acting like this is a surprise. Was that Because it phone jack and install software that allows the computer and dial up?

Nathan Mumm:

service to communicate. Was that Because it is for the new generation? They probably had no idea what that was.

Mike Gorday:

Well, all right.

Nathan Mumm:

The new process resulted in robotics, noise, as I tried to do, and then all of a sudden you would have service Now. Aol rolled out its dial-up service in 1989, when lawmakers were focusing on closing the digital divide, the idea that people living in poorer or more rural areas would not be able to access the internet. Mccray said the company was known for handing out discs and CDs that gave users several hours of internet access for free.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, we got so many of them. We used to make things out of them.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, so back in the old times, your phone service was considered a necessity and free because you would get that from your landline service. And then you would pay 19 a month to have access to the internet through one of these isps, uh, internet service provider. Now, what's interesting is, as of 2022, an American's household survey from the Census Bureau said that 0.1% of American households relied on dial-up to access the internet. That's a pretty small figure, don't you think?

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, it is pretty small.

Nathan Mumm:

So the solution is that you need to go to a satellite if you live out in the that's one-tenth of one percent, I think. That's what it is, thank you. We have now removed the whole dial-up internet service. You will now need to get a satellite service. You got Starlink or HughesNet or whatever other services are out there that you now need to grab.

Mike Gorday:

I feel like I need to look for Rod Serling in the corner smoking a cigarette Over for wasn't he the?

Speaker 2:

Twilight Zone guy. Twilight Zone guy. Yeah, okay, that's right All right.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, that ends our top technology stories of the week. Now we're going to move into our next segment with dives into our letter segment featuring on scam submitted by listeners. Some studio selected emails. Mike's putting on his hat. Mike, what does that hat say? Don't click on stuff, stuff. All right, be sure to listen and share the segment with a friend. We're going to head out for our first commercial break. We'll see you after this.

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Nathan Mumm:

Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. Our weekly show covers the top technology subjects without a political agenda. We verify the facts and we do it with a sense of humor, in less than 60 minutes and, of course, with a little whiskey on the side. Today, mark Gregoire, whiskey connoisseur, is not in the studio. He actually came into the studio, dropped off some stuff. He's not feeling well, looked a little under the weather.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, he came around and spread all his germs all over the place.

Ody:

He was masked.

Mike Gorday:

He was masked. He was masked. You didn't see him over there behind you, taking this mask off and blowing at the back of your head.

Nathan Mumm:

Did you, Okay. So since our whiskey connoisseur is not in here, that means always Odie fills in so she can give us the information on what we are sipping today. Odie, what do we got?

Ody:

Well, today we're drinking the Remus Straight Bourbon Whiskey single barrel. The intro is from the bottle directly. Take a sip back in time to experience the roaring 20s, inspired by the finest bourbon of the Prohibition era. Each Remus single barrel holds a collection of unique flavor secrets. Add it to your speakeasy or liquor shelf and discover the secrets for yourself. This particular barrel was hand-selected by Lee QFC, renton's liquor manager, in honor of his late father Vic. A meaningful tribute and a bottle that carries both history and heart. That was pretty sweet.

Nathan Mumm:

That was pretty sweet Shout out to Lee at QFC. Now, is this a single barrel or a small batch? She already said it like twice.

Ody:

I know, I'm just trying to.

Nathan Mumm:

It's a single barrel.

Ody:

Yes, Okay, single barrel Okay it's from the Luxco MGP Company.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay.

Ody:

Distillation is Ross and Squibb Distillery in Lawrenceburg, indiana. Classified as a straight bourbon Aged six years has 59% or no 118 proof.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay.

Ody:

Mash bill of 51% corn, 49% rye Goes for 56 bucks on the market.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, yeah, 56 bucks on the market. I had a big first kick on that, yeah your face.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, we watched you do the Nathan dance over here. Is that the Nathan dance?

Ody:

I didn't consider that the Nathan dance. I'd consider that the Nathan shake.

Mike Gorday:

The Nathan shake yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

I have many different classifications. The shake the dance. Okay, All right. Well we're going to come up with something even better than that. You know what you should during the commercial break. You should actually get a sip of this yourself, too.

Ody:

Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

I'm curious on what your take is going to be on this.

Ody:

Well, I'm probably going to do my own version of the shake as well. I'm not a big rye gal.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, well, you got to give this a shot. What did?

Ody:

you think of it, I like it. I was going to say I think Mike would like it, so you're going to have to be the tiebreaker, because I think it's going to be pretty full-bodied.

Nathan Mumm:

It is Full-bodied, luxury. Taste, look, taste. Mike's becoming a connoisseur here.

Mike Gorday:

You know what? That's right. I am compared to you. That is absolutely correct. You just make weird faces and then go, it's got a bird.

Nathan Mumm:

It's got a bird, alright.

Ody:

Well, please do not forget to like and subscribe. Drink responsibly, because heaven can wait.

Nathan Mumm:

There we go. Thank you so much, odie slash Mark. All right. Well, with our whiskey tasting completed, let's move on to our feature segment. Today, we bring back the funny yet informative reading of emails that I received during the week. This includes scam, phishing emails, text scams and all-out mistruths disguised as legitimate emails in a segment we call Letters Letters we get letters.

Mike Gorday:

We get back back back those letters All letters, we get letters and the letters all have fun.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, we always start with Odie. Odie, you are up first. What do you have in that letter area? That's a shorter one, but there are some tricky things to this, so let's talk about that.

Ody:

It's all about keeping it short and sweet.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, you know, I like that.

Ody:

I have a very fun letter from Sam Cook.

Nathan Mumm:

Sam Cook okay 667 at Outlookcom. Oh boy, mm-hmm Sam, so it doesn't even have his name on the email address. Huh.

Ody:

What do you mean?

Nathan Mumm:

Oh is that, sam Cook, and then the numbers. Yeah.

Ody:

Sam Cook 667 at Outlook 667, okay. Man, you need to open up your listening ears, man.

Mike Gorday:

She's too busy trying to figure out what this liquor tastes like.

Ody:

The subject line says only price question mark.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh.

Ody:

And then you ready for this? Okay, it says hi, I found that your website isn't doing well and has errors in Google search results. We can place your website on Google's first page. May I send a SEO proposal and of price. Thank you.

Nathan Mumm:

And a price.

Ody:

No and of price and of price Question mark.

Nathan Mumm:

And of price question mark. Yes, oh boy.

Ody:

You know what? I think he's pretty trustworthy you think he's pretty yeah. So, what happens if I reach out to Sam Cook 667? At Javiercom.

Mike Gorday:

He's giving his personal email. He might want to get married or something.

Ody:

For price.

Nathan Mumm:

For price For price. So I'm sure what he would do is he would send you over a brochure. So as much as this isn't like a phishing attempt they're not trying to get anything. This is kind of a solicited scam.

Ody:

No, they're trying to get. What do you mean? They're not trying to get anything, they're trying to get money.

Mike Gorday:

They're trying to sell you an SEO package.

Nathan Mumm:

They're going to come on over with an SEO package based on one of their probably providers that they have overseas.

Nathan Mumm:

It'll be a generic SEO and the idea of this is to establish a relationship with you so that as soon as you have that trust relationship, the next thing he's going to ask for is he's going to ask to do an audit of your website, and the only way to do an audit of your website is to give him login credentials and admin credentials to your website, and once you do that, you're pretty much in the wild wild west and he can keep that password Even if you change it afterwards. He can load in spyware, software, add-ins, depending on what your website is. So anybody that you get a solicited email for that says they can help out with your SEO. I'm sure there's probably one or two of the 100 that you get in your email box that are legitimate, but most of these are going to be scams. Most of them are just trying to get access to your website and then, once they get access to your website, boom, they can do more malicious items after that.

Ody:

So let me get this straight.

Nathan Mumm:

They can fire Riot, they could.

Ody:

If I do not know this person.

Nathan Mumm:

I shouldn't respond you probably shouldn't If I did it if I'm not looking for an SEO proposal and price.

Ody:

I shouldn't respond.

Nathan Mumm:

You should not respond to that.

Ody:

He opened up with a high. It's no personal message or nothing.

Nathan Mumm:

No, it's just high.

Mike Gorday:

And a couple misspelled words in the price question mark. Are you?

Nathan Mumm:

on a ShamWow commercial.

Ody:

I'm just making sure you don't click on stuff. Okay, all right, I don't know any stuff okay, All right Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't know any Sam Cooke.

Ody:

Therefore, I will you know immediately trash spam.

Nathan Mumm:

There you go, good girl, okay, you know what? That's why she does not get compromised. See, odie is the safest of all people. I don't know no.

Mike Gorday:

I don't know about that, because I'm the one that's sitting here that says I never look at emails anyway. Okay, all right. And he's got the hat he does have the hat and I do have the hat.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Well, we're next up to you. This is going to be an interesting one here. I think this one's pretty cool. Okay, this one's very creative.

Mike Gorday:

It's from Emily Grace EmilyGrace7412 at gmail. I feel like this is sort of a dating setup. Yeah, wow, emily, all right. Well, no, it's Emily. And then you got Sam. Yeah, yeah, see, look at us. Yeah, he's trying to play. You can just hook them up with different email addresses.

Nathan Mumm:

He's trying to play Dr Date.

Mike Gorday:

There you go. Okay, so it's two, nathan mom.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and the?

Nathan Mumm:

okay, and the subject line is just justin worth a look and then it goes hi, justin forgot who the name of the person is. Darn it that that script didn't work okay should we reveal who justin is? Uh, I don't even. I think that's actually just a random.

Mike Gorday:

I don't even think that they realize you don't know, you don't think this is how easy would it to be to find out that you have a relative named Justin?

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, it's just Justin and Peyton are my kids' names, so yeah.

Mike Gorday:

So I'll just put it out there, that's okay. So how do you think is random?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, do you think the Hi Justin? So you think somewhere in his database he's got Justin mom on his database too.

Mike Gorday:

Is Justin listed in your papers anywhere? Not really, no, okay, so I don't know. I don't know.

Nathan Mumm:

I think it was just a it is coinkydental, it is no, I see what you're saying. I hear you Okay.

Mike Gorday:

Anyway, the opening's really good. If I could, I'd have sent a carrier pigeon instead of this email. Why? Because at least then you'd remember the message and probably take a photo for Instagram before reading whether we're a software company pitch. Here's the real point. We help fast moving teams like blah blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Worst case you get a few solid ideas, best case, you get a partner. Should we swap 10 minutes this week to see if there's a fit birds optional? Oh, send it to my calendar. Yes, I'll keep my pigeons grounded. No, my best, emily grace.

Nathan Mumm:

Growth executive driving measurable impact you don't really know where emily grace's uh company is don't want these emails unsub.

Ody:

I don't know justin, she sounds pretty trustworthy you think so, yeah, so guess what happens so we get the unsubscribe link.

Nathan Mumm:

So I tried clicking on this link right. So unsubscribe link sent me to a naughty site with ai stuff. So the unsubscribe. Are you sure you clicked the?

Mike Gorday:

right link buddy I did.

Nathan Mumm:

I I clicked it twice just to make sure that that was the case.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, so so both times it came out of the same thing. Is that like an electronic double take?

Nathan Mumm:

I don't know if the scam is to kind of get you to hit the unsubscribe. You go to the unsubscribe and you're like oh, wow, okay, and then all of a sudden you sign up for whatever services in the unsubscribe is I couldn't quite get if that's what the whole gig was. So it's unsubscribe is I. I couldn't quite get if that's what the whole gig was. Normally the unsubscriber says put in your uh email and you type in your email. Sometimes they ask her for passwords to have that taken care of.

Ody:

So it was very interesting on on what actually happened I mean I would argue that there's two like scams in there one was is the unsubscribe thing, and two is the whole like hey, we should meet up sometime. And if you respond to them, they know that you're a real live person. And they said do another BS thing what is Mike?

Nathan Mumm:

Mike's going to town here, what's he looking at? He's trying to click on the link to no no.

Mike Gorday:

I'm not trying to click on it. Look on the link what I'm doing. What I'm doing is what don't get me started about my email.

Ody:

What I'm doing is what?

Mike Gorday:

Don't get me started about my email. I hate my email. I think the funny thing here is they use unsub to do the trick and you know unsub has a forensic a forensic thing attached to it.

Ody:

I watch Criminal Minds. I know what's up.

Mike Gorday:

What is it? Unknown Subject. Oh it's on Sub.

Nathan Mumm:

Is that what?

Mike Gorday:

it means.

Nathan Mumm:

Criminal Minds. That's the worst show ever. Oh, come on, that is so fake. They're AI.

Mike Gorday:

It is still. It is still an FBI term.

Speaker 2:

Is it Unsub? Okay, all right, okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Nothing is better than taking a picture of that license plate and zooming on in and getting all the details. If you can zoom in that good on the license plate, why don't you just?

Speaker 2:

zoom in on the freaking window and find out what the person looks like.

Ody:

Anyway, come on, if you got the picture just zoom in and find it Criminal Minds Flanders. Yeah, Most of that stuff is just Hollywood crap.

Nathan Mumm:

This one was a really cool email, very creative, very creative. You like that one.

Mike Gorday:

I think you should write Emily directly at her Gmail account and maybe introduce her to Sam Cooke. Okay there you go.

Nathan Mumm:

The next thing I have here is I have two emails coming in almost so almost immediately after each other. Now, if you'd only decide to do this and maybe do it from one day to another day, you'd be in good shape. When you decided to send the same exact email, you almost got me here. So the ledger because I have a ledger device, that's what I use for all my cryptocurrency it says we were contacting you today following a recent incident with the affected portion of the ledger's user's account on August 16th 2025.

Nathan Mumm:

Our security team identified unauthorized access to a database containing information such as email addresses and phone numbers. We need you to go in and type in your recovery phrase here so they can reissue you a new recovery phrase. And you know what. They may have gotten me, but they sent the same exact one, the following one's at 2.10 am and the other one's at 2.11 am, and this one says that they had a security breach on June 25th 2022. So the first email I get, all right, so I get this at 210. It says that they had a security breach on August 16th At 2011,. I get one that says that they had a security breach on June 12th.

Speaker 2:

At 2-11 in the morning, 2-11 am.

Nathan Mumm:

Sorry, 2-11 am and this one says that. So the 210 says they had a breach on August 16th. The 211 email says that they had a breach on June 25th 2022. Well, that makes sense, so they had two breaches.

Mike Gorday:

Two breaches, two emails.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, okay, okay. And all I have to do is type in here with a big button that says secure, my recovery phrase. This process is simple. Security takes less than two minutes. So I have to type in my security phrase for my ledger and then they would reissue me a brand new security face can I ask you that ledger thing that you're talking about?

Ody:

yeah, I see that on the email it has a ledger pick. Yeah, is that similar to the?

Nathan Mumm:

yeah, that is exactly their logo, okay, okay, so that's exactly, so they did a pretty good job here of making this. Somewhat legit, except for they probably shouldn't be sending it from info at clearioapp, so probably you'd want to send it from ledgercom, maybe.

Mike Gorday:

Did you click on stuff, so I actually I did alert me.

Nathan Mumm:

I got very close to clicking on it, but I did not click on it.

Mike Gorday:

Do you know what's interesting? Did you try to check it out on your virus machine?

Nathan Mumm:

No, because the information was just not good enough for me to move. I did not even try it on that. But I will tell you this. I was off on vacation a little bit, or family stuff.

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, we know I had somebody. Let me ask you this. I had somebody call me and say that they were from the police department and that I failed to show up to a court-ordered event. I did, and you know what? I almost fell for it. The person spoke good English, there was no call center in the background, and I'm like well, explain this to me. He's like well, it looks like we have a signature here that we dropped off something for you on a Wednesday and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It looks like your signature. And I go well, I would never have been home on a Wednesday to sign for anything, so that doesn't make any sense. And I started continuously questioning. Very, very, very good scam had me almost worried. I started going online to see if I had maybe some type of court appearance let me, let me jump in here and tell you jump in mike, yeah, the police do not call you to tell you you've missed a court date, that's you don't get court reminders.

Mike Gorday:

Yes, you get letters in the mail that says you have to appear on this date at this time and if you don't, you get issued a bench warrant. Yes, and then they come and find you.

Nathan Mumm:

So they started with this, saying it was a bench warrant. They said this was the bench warrant and they were contacting me.

Mike Gorday:

Nobody tells you you have a bench warrant. Usually there's so much stuff going on that the police just find out you have a bench warrant when you get pulled over for a car speeding ticket or something and they go hi you have a bench warrant, we're taking you in right now. The police do not alert you when you have a bench warrant.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, has that happened to you before? You seem to have a lot of info on this. Even I know about that.

Ody:

Okay, I did not know, man. My education right, and that's exactly what they're banking on.

Nathan Mumm:

I know and all you don't know, and that you give in and like so I. I was kind of just then. All of a sudden, my wife my wife looks at me and says what the heck are you talking about? I said, well, I got a bench where she's like hang up on that person. It's a freaking scam.

Ody:

Wow and so. Nathan Mum.

Nathan Mumm:

I almost got taken to town by an actual phone call.

Mike Gorday:

The phone scams are getting a little bit more difficult. That was not even a legitimate phone call.

Nathan Mumm:

I know.

Mike Gorday:

If you were getting scammed by that. You need to take a look in the mirror, buddy, or stop drinking.

Nathan Mumm:

Stop drinking, all right, okay. Well, that ends our letter segment. Now we're going to move on to mike's mesmerizing moment. Welcome to mike's mesmerizing moment. What does mike have to say today? All right, mike, here's. It's a little bit of a longer question. Should we move to a pay-per-usage model to have our internet usage private? So let me ask you that what If you have your internet usage private? Because we pay for connection services right now through a provider that you pay for monthly? But should you use software like Facebook and Instagram? Should there be a charge for your privacy to ensure that it doesn't get compromised, and would you pay for that? So Facebook gets compromised all the time. Instagram gets compromised All these things get compromised, would?

Mike Gorday:

you pay a service. Is this about paying Facebook to use Facebook?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, would you pay Facebook to use Facebook if they guaranteed it was secure and they would not release any of that information?

Mike Gorday:

Okay, first off, nobody can guarantee this, because we talk about this crap all the time. Ok, we talk about people hacking into city systems and and school systems and educational systems. Facebook cannot come around and be like hey, if you pay us money, we'll guarantee you we'll never lose your privacy to hackers. That's BS.

Nathan Mumm:

OK, that's that's very valid.

Mike Gorday:

You're right, right, okay, and then pay per usage model, like if I get on the internet, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get, I'm gonna pay on some sort of well, you're currently paying to get a check.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, yeah, well, you currently pay to get a check box in in instagram or verified with facebook?

Mike Gorday:

is this related only to social media?

Nathan Mumm:

That's the question that I just asked for Just social media.

Mike Gorday:

No, in fact I'm going to go one step further and say stop using the freaking social media altogether, because the benefits do not outweigh the problems, the problems outweigh the benefits.

Nathan Mumm:

How do you connect with your friends on social media, though I don't.

Ody:

You don't. Did you not hear his?

Mike Gorday:

email I did, I did, I did Emily.

Ody:

Yeah, carrier pigeons, man, carrier pigeons. Is that what we need to move to?

Mike Gorday:

If I hang out with my friends, do you think I connect with them on Facebook? I?

Nathan Mumm:

connect to some people on my Facebook accounts. Yes, facebook, I connect to some people on my Facebook accounts. Yes, okay, so do you, odie? Is that? Yeah? If yeah, so if I Instagram some of your friends, here's the deal.

Mike Gorday:

Here's the deal. Like okay, this is, and this is what Facebook has given us all as some sort of panacea to everything. Okay, I have a friend who I haven't seen in 10 years. He hits me up on Facebook. He sees my profile. He's like hey, I haven't seen you for a while. How are you? Okay, that is the whole. Reach out and touch someone of the 2000s.

Nathan Mumm:

AT&T commercial. Yeah, yeah.

Mike Gorday:

Right, and that's what Facebook is based all their crap on. Right, okay, and that's nice. It's nice that my friend can hit me up on Facebook and be like, hey, how are you doing? But that doesn't justify all the crap that I have to do on Facebook or I have available to projecting the perfect lifestyle. Yeah, you know I don't.

Ody:

What you're basically saying is that the average person is not disciplined enough to just go on, answer the message and get off yeah, yeah, but that's the way this stuff is.

Mike Gorday:

This stuff is not designed for you to connect with people. This stuff is designed so you stay on the platform and give them information. You know and you give them information every time you like something. You give them information every time you respond to an ad. I don't know what that was.

Speaker 2:

That was God acknowledging my existence.

Mike Gorday:

right there Is that what that was? That was God acknowledging my existence. Right there. Is that what that was? That's right. He's like yep, right, turn it all off.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, all right, that was everything. Kept on running, though, so that was a weird thing. Maybe that was just the lights. Somebody flicked the lights.

Mike Gorday:

Maybe we're going through. Do you have backup?

Nathan Mumm:

batteries. I do have backup batteries.

Mike Gorday:

Maybe that's what it was. Okay, there you go See, but yeah, no, I don't think we should make a pay-per-usage, maybe make a pay, I don't know.

Nathan Mumm:

You don't know.

Mike Gorday:

I think that's ridiculous to pay for services like Facebook and things like that, but then again, I think Facebook is ridiculous.

Nathan Mumm:

So Okay, all right, okay, well, that's your mesmerizing moment, then. So, you would not pay to have your privacy guaranteed to be secure. They can't guarantee my privacy.

Mike Gorday:

That's a false claim. That's exactly like a snake oil. Thosman, here I'm going to sell you this little thing full of olive oil and it's going to cure all your ills. I guarantee it.

Nathan Mumm:

And then you travel around the United States.

Mike Gorday:

That's right, I'm going to travel around my fake meta virtual store site selling my snake oil to everybody.

Nathan Mumm:

There we go, All right. Well, Mike, thanks for that mesmerizing moment. Up next we have this Week in Technology. Well, wait a minute. Wait a minute. What?

Mike Gorday:

Would you pay to have somebody say they would guarantee?

Nathan Mumm:

It's not Nathan's nugget.

Mike Gorday:

No, that's a fair question. Would you pay?

Nathan Mumm:

per usage. I would if they gave me a guarantee that my privacy wouldn't be.

Mike Gorday:

But how can you even?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, there are some cyber, there are some cyber companies out there. They get cyber security insurance for where they guarantee if you're on their platform. If they get breached, they will give you up to a million dollars in cash compensation for the breach.

Mike Gorday:

Oh, okay, so you can see you would do it because you have a financial incentive to.

Nathan Mumm:

So if they did get yeah, so if there was some type of backing, this is okay. If you pay for Facebook service, we guarantee you won't be breached. And if you are breached, here you go, we're going to give you X amount of money. Then, absolutely, you know what? I think I'd be all over doing that. But if there is no financial incentive.

Mike Gorday:

If they actually get compromised, then no because all it is is just smoking beers. It sounds a little like selling your soul.

Nathan Mumm:

Does it yeah? Maybe, I watch too much Cuphead.

Mike Gorday:

It sounds a little like that Too much. Cuphead, this I'll pay as long as you guarantee me that if ever I lose my information, you give me a million dollars.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, sure. Well, I have to tell you about thinking, as we have a warranty on our refrigerator, our refrigerator went out. We got up to 70 degrees.

Mike Gorday:

Anyway.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, continue on.

Mike Gorday:

Thanks for that. I'm not sure how that has anything to do with anything.

Nathan Mumm:

It doesn't either. It just popped in my head.

Mike Gorday:

Let's go talk to your refrigerator.

Nathan Mumm:

Mike. I'm not sure how that has anything to do with anything. It doesn't either. It just popped in my head. Let's go talk to your refrigerator. Mike, thanks for the best rising moment. Get Sam Cook to talk about your refrigerator.

Nathan Mumm:

We have this week in technology, so now would be a great time to enjoy a little whiskey on the side, as we're going to be doing so. During the break, you're listening to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mums. See you in a few minutes, hey Mike. So you know what. We need people to start liking our social media pages If you like our show, if you really like us we could use your support on patreoncom, or is it Patreon?

Mike Gorday:

I think it's Patreon. Okay, patreon. If you really like us, you can like us in patreoncom, I butcher the English language.

Nathan Mumm:

You know you butcher the English language all the time it's patreoncom. Patreoncom.

Mike Gorday:

If you really like our show, you can subscribe to patreoncom and help us out and you can visit us on that Facebook platform.

Nathan Mumm:

You know the one that Zuckerberg owns, the one that we always bag on. Yeah, we're on Facebook too. Yeah, like us on Facebook. Do you know what our Facebook page is? Tech Time Radio. At Tech Time Radio. You know what? There's a trend here.

Mike Gorday:

It seems to be that there's a trend and that's Tech Time Radio, or you can even Instagram with us, and that's at Tech Time Radio.

Nathan Mumm:

That's at Tech Time Radio. Or you can find us on TikTok, and it's Tech Time Radio. It's at Tech Time Radio.

Mike Gorday:

Like and subscribe to our social media Like us today we need you to like us. Like us and subscribe.

Nathan Mumm:

That's it. That's it, it's that simple.

Speaker 1:

And now let's look back at this week in technology.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, we're going back to August 26, 1938. The first use of a tape recorder on the radio. Now, radio station WQXR in New York City broadcast a program using a tape recorder. For the first time the tape recorder used was the Phillips Miller's recording system, also known as Miller tape, invented by James Arthur Miller. By the later 1940s Miller had also become involved in phonograph recording, pressing, consulting with the Langworth Transcription Company to produce eight-inch discs and prototyping discs made with small tabletop presses. Miller did pass away on October 12, 1971 at the age of 80. So let's talk about this, the idea of radio shows. Until 1938, all of that used to be live. Every single thing about that was live. And now I would say most of the radio stations and we'll ask od here just a little bit how much of the programming is live versus recorded on the radio man.

Ody:

Nobody wants to know what's behind the curtain, okay okay, well, let's talk.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, a little bit, would you say. Would you say more than 50 percent is pre-recorded? This is important. So I think it's. I would say it's about 70 to 80 percent, I think, is pre-recorded, recorded stuff, and then I only think about 20 is should I bring up the elephant in the room. No, no, okay uh all right, what do you think? C.

Ody:

I'll say you know what I'm going to take into public radio. I'll say at least 60% is prerecorded 60% is prerecorded. And that's being very nice with my numbers.

Nathan Mumm:

That's being very nice with their numbers. So she's saying that she doesn't get in trouble for the station she works for. I get you, I get you, I get you, I get you. So just think of this. Before 1938, everything had to be done live. And then all of a sudden this guy creates, and it's, a recording system on a record. It's not even like a tape player per se, that you see. It's a three-layer recording on a record that is used to then go through this process to tape it?

Mike Gorday:

When did we start using radio? When did we?

Nathan Mumm:

start using radio. When did we start using radio? Yeah, um I don't know when did we use? 1900s. 1900s is a radio. When the radio started, I don't know I don't know.

Mike Gorday:

You have a google. You have a google ai over there.

Nathan Mumm:

I'll chat gpt that in a second. All right, there you go. So miller was the inventor. This dude was like really into how to transcribe onto vinyl discs. So there you go, look them up. You'll have a great time learning about the Phyllis Miller recording system. That was this week in technology. If you've ever wanted to watch some tech time history, with over 260 plus weekly broadcast spanning for our four plus years of video, podcasts and blog information, you can visit techtimeradiocom to watch our older shows. We're going to take a commercial break. When we return we have the Mark Mumbles Whiskey Review. See you after this break.

Mike Gorday:

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Speaker 1:

The book pository and more the segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's Whiskey Mumble.

Nathan Mumm:

Alright.

Ody:

I gotta turn on my own mic. You gotta turn on your mic there. Anyway, you guys want to know what we're celebrating today.

Nathan Mumm:

What are we celebrating today?

Ody:

On August 26th.

Nathan Mumm:

Yes.

Ody:

National Webmistress Day. Webmistress Day On August 26th yes, national Web Mistress Day.

Nathan Mumm:

Web Mistress Day Web.

Ody:

Mistress Day Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Web Mistress Day.

Ody:

Mike, you can at least try to act excited.

Mike Gorday:

Surprised. He's excited. Why am I need to be excited about this?

Ody:

Because today we're celebrating the invisible heroes who make and maintain the websites we all depend on.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay.

Ody:

A web mistress is a woman who designs, develops, markets or manages websites. The operators who keep everything running behind the scenes. Wow, that I should not have taken that.

Mike Gorday:

That shot of whiskey. Huh, you know, moving that glass further away is not going to take away anything.

Ody:

It just shout out to Tech Time time zone web mistress christina petri, who keeps us looking sharp online. Okay, do you? I don't know this christina petri is the name.

Nathan Mumm:

She actually was the one that helped create the website.

Ody:

Christina, there you go and now for a stretch here. Here mark out Just like a web mistress quietly keeping the internet flowing. Behind the scenes, george Remus kept Prohibition running smoothly illegally. He was the ultimate operator.

Mike Gorday:

This is like a Nathan link.

Nathan Mumm:

This is fantastic.

Mike Gorday:

No, no, no, this is not fantastic, he's been around for so long because he did it illegally.

Nathan Mumm:

I love this.

Ody:

He was the ultimate operator behind the curtain. In fact, even when serving time in prison, Remus was given trustee privileges, so much so that he once helped deputy sheriffs chase down an escaping inmate while still being their prisoner.

Mike Gorday:

Yes.

Ody:

So he was a good prisoner, that's a trustee.

Nathan Mumm:

So he was probably paying the cops off. Even back then in the day Say, hey, just take care of me here and I'll bring you some whiskey.

Mike Gorday:

He got them all whiskey.

Nathan Mumm:

That's right.

Ody:

Anyway, today's pour comes with a fairly unique mash bill that just barely makes the legal cut for bourbon. 51% corn and 49% rye Two grains only, no barley. That's almost a 50-50 split, given that it has an edge. Sweet notes from the corn, balanced against a bold wall of rye spice Think caramel and vanilla on the nose, but the palate is all clove, pepper and citrus zest, with a dry, lingering finish. Yeah, that's what's screwing me over, right now.

Nathan Mumm:

Is that the dry lingering finish?

Mike Gorday:

The pepper.

Ody:

The pepper. Okay, for me this is simply a delicious dram, one I could sip on all night and have. Oh, boy.

Nathan Mumm:

All right Lodi. So that was Mark. Mark loves this whiskey, yeah.

Ody:

I had to sit through it, okay, whiskey yeah, I had to sit through it. Okay, I'm not hating on it. Okay, it's just messing with my throat a little bit.

Nathan Mumm:

Just messing with your throat, okay.

Ody:

Because of the lovely clove, pepper and citrus zest.

Nathan Mumm:

I can taste that pepper. Would you pay 50 bucks for this?

Ody:

No, I'm happy with it being free.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay. You're not even happy with it being free, are you no? It being free okay. You're not even happy with it being free, are you no? Okay, all right, okay, well, there you go, all right well, well od and mark whisking technology are such a great pairing I'm not really feeling the effects of that right now like mickey mouse and donald duck and that is going to tie into the nathan nugget. So that is a lead and tease for the Nathan Nugget.

Mike Gorday:

Everybody's on the edge of their seats, buddy, Are they Alright?

Nathan Mumm:

let's prepare for our technology fail of the week, brought to you by Elite Executive Services. Congratulations, you're a failure.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I failed. Did I yes, did I yes.

Nathan Mumm:

Alright. Today's technology fail comes to us from the kidney dialysis firm DaVita. Now the kidney dialysis firm DaVita has confirmed that a ransomware gang that breached this network stole the personal and health information of nearly 2.7 million individuals. See what am I telling you see, what am I? What did I? What am I telling you? Uh, the venus service is over 265 000 patients across 300 or 3113 outpatient denial dialysis dialysis centers.

Nathan Mumm:

Uh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So tons against 13 other countries worldwide. So this is blah. So tons against 13 other countries worldwide. So this is in the United States and 13 other countries worldwide. This is like the IBM of computers. This is like the Apple of phones. I mean, this is like the big. The Vita is the firm for kidney dialysis. Well, guess what? The attackers gained access to the system on March 24th and were removed from the system after the company detected them on April 12th. So you got March 24th to April 12th. So they were in there for a good two and a half weeks without anybody knowing. Well, inside his systems, the threat actors stole data from DeVita's lab database, which includes a combination of personal information including name, address, date of birth, social security number, health insurance related and health condition treatment information, dialysis lab test results information, and stolen information Also included tax identification numbers and, in some cases, image of personal checks. Wow.

Mike Gorday:

So essentially, Okay, nathan, I'm meta and I'm going to tell you that I'm guaranteeing that your privacy will be you will be maintained. If you pay me $18 a month, $18 a month, you're going to take that. I would take that, but you know what?

Nathan Mumm:

What's going to happen to DaVita, who had to make this announcement last Thursday? So this is the stuff that just kills me. So our data has been breached since March 24th. That is now in August 26th August 26th. I now have information that's been publicly posted about this. So until that time I did not know, if I was in this company, that this happened and I could have had checks that were being bounced against credit fraud. That could have been happening. All of that, um, they did report to the Department of Health Office for Civil Rights. The OCR updated its breach portal confirming that they reported that 2,689,000 people had their data stolen in the incident. Wow, when we return, we're going to head out. That's it. Huh yeah.

Mike Gorday:

We're like yeah, well sucks to be there. Let's go on to the next thing well, what do you do about that?

Nathan Mumm:

I mean, that's just horrible, right I.

Mike Gorday:

I think we should, you know, have meta guarantee that we'll always have our privacy.

Nathan Mumm:

We pay them okay, you know what we're not gonna. We're not gonna actually go to a commercial break, we're gonna just go right now into the nathan nugget this is your nugget of the week, all right?

Nathan Mumm:

You know what? You can visit Disneyland and California Adventure Park all in one day. That's right. I was at the park celebrating being an empty nester. Both my kids are married. I'm done with that. So the wife and I decided to take a trip down to Disney California Adventure to see what we could have, and disneyland and guess what. I spent most of my time in the first couple days trying to figure out a hack, and by the last day there I was able to get through both disneyland and california adventure park all in one day.

Mike Gorday:

Wait a second, wait a second. You were there for three days. We were there for five days total. No, no, no, no. You said you were there for two days trying to figure out a hack yeah is this before you went to the?

Nathan Mumm:

parks, uh, no, no, no, so at the parks themselves.

Mike Gorday:

So I I have a weird, so you were hanging out at the park for three days, and then it was the last day that you figured out well.

Nathan Mumm:

so the whole time I'm at the park I'm trying to figure out how can I jerry-rig this to get more rides, how can I I jury rig this to be the ultimate? I am not enjoying my event being there. I'm not enjoying being there with people I got to spend time, man you were early, so I am just thinking about how can I hack the system.

Nathan Mumm:

And I figured it out. Here's what we got. Your slip is showing, buddy. Oh, is that? I am going to tell everybody what we can do here to get the rides. Most important part is you have to have the lightning lane. What's that Okay?

Speaker 2:

We got to have that lightning lane.

Nathan Mumm:

You have to have that for your park entry. Now here's the secret you want to book rides at the park that are breaking down. This sounds absolutely crazy. Why in the world would you want to schedule rides that are broken down? But there's a hack in the system, so we get there the last day where we're going to go on space mountain.

Nathan Mumm:

Space mountain is notorious in Disneyland for breaking down and not being open in the first hour. If you book a pawn entry into the park a ride on a space mountain, and it breaks down, guess what happens? They give you an unlimited, a fast pass or a lightning lane pass to any ride in any park, so you can go over to California Adventure Very important. Now let's say the park is down for a ride for an hour Every 15 minutes. You can re-sign up to use the lightning lane to get another pass. So Space Mountain was down for an hour Every 15 minutes. After your ticket comes up and says that the ride's down, you can rebook a ticket. So I could get four lightning lane passes for any rides at any of the parks within the first hour of being there.

Nathan Mumm:

Now the rest of the time what you're doing is you're trying to find the ride that's going to break down. And there's a couple rides that break down all the time. Roger rabbit breaks down all the time it seems to be uh, you can go to find the ride that's going to break down. And there's a couple of rides that break down all the time. Roger Rabbit breaks down all the time it seems to be uh, you can go to Mickey's fly school.

Nathan Mumm:

Goofy's fly school Incredicoaster sometimes.

Ody:

Indiana Jones.

Nathan Mumm:

Indiana Jones crashes. So what you're doing is you're looking for a ride, and if you're on a ride that actually breaks down, then you immediately open your app. I was on Mickey's Runaway and I immediately opened up the app because it broke down so I could schedule it, knowing that the ride was going to be broken down and I could get free passes. So, long story short, we have six unlimited passes which essentially can get you through Disney.

Mike Gorday:

California. Long story short. If you want to cheat at something, talk to Nathan.

Nathan Mumm:

No, when you're at the theme park of Disneyland, don't go to the rides that you want to get on. Look for the rides that are going to break down, because if you schedule those rides to break down, then you can choose to go to any ride you want. Now in this plan, there's a couple tips to make sure that you start out with certain rides first and stay in an area not to discuss you need to go. There's called fast pass um plans that are out there. There's lightning lane information that you can find online, and all these are great tools to tell you how to schedule your day. But if you want to hack disney and you want to go through every ride at both parks in a day, look for those broken rides and subscribe, subscribe, subscribe do we not talk on this radio show about how bad hacking is?

Nathan Mumm:

well, this is. This is not like, I'm not hacking into the back end. Different thing, this is a different thing.

Ody:

Had you ever thought about this until today, when I was taking advantage of a system when you did tell me about it, I was telling you about a different solution that I've been doing okay, yeah, and what's your solution?

Ody:

well, my solution is this like uh, pick a ride that you don't want to get on, okay, so that you can use the fast or the lightning lane, yep, and then trade it out for the one that you actually want to get on at a later time, because you can book at any time and then you can go back and you can say modify plan on their little app and you can go and choose a different one.

Mike Gorday:

Is this something that I can Google and it's going to tell me how to hack the system. My.

Nathan Mumm:

Thing you can look it up on TikTok, youtube Shorts, anything, and it's a pretty well-known thing, I don't think anybody's gotten our hack yet, because I was talking about it to people.

Ody:

And because of you, instead of gatekeeping it for your close friends, now we're putting it out there for the rest of the world.

Nathan Mumm:

So now Disney's going to figure out a way to change this.

Ody:

So now, Disney's going to fix it. This is my excuse to go down to Disney now to get ahead of the jump.

Nathan Mumm:

You get ahead of the jump as soon as we edit this and we put this online, it's going to be they're going to figure out a way not to do that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, there you go. If you do go down right now, which is the old Twilight Zone, they have now a Halloween edition ride, so they actually have a whole bunch of new audio and a whole bunch of.

Ody:

I've never done that before. It's during the day, it's a regular ride, and then in the evening they change it to Monsters After Dark.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, that's pretty good. That's the first time I wrote on that and I wrote on that many times with the free pass solution.

Ody:

All right, oh yeah, that's it.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, that's what's up. Let's move now to our pick of the day whiskey tasting. That's awesome.

Speaker 1:

And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings. Let's see what bubbles to the top.

Ody:

I'm going to be so honest. Yeah, I really like this whiskey.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, you couldn't stand it, and now you grabbed more during the show.

Ody:

Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. I'm a little, I'm feeling it a little bit.

Nathan Mumm:

You get a little buzz.

Ody:

I'm getting a little buzz.

Mike Gorday:

Are you sure that's not the Disney hack excitement? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, I don't like the finish on it Okay.

Ody:

You know the clove, pepper and citrus not a good well combination for me. I'm also not a rye girl, but it's a pretty good whiskey.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, I think Nathan's going to give it a thumbs up, nathan's giving it an absolute thumbs down.

Ody:

If we're drinking the Remus straight bourbon whiskey single barrel classified as a straight bourbon aged six years, 118 proof. Mash bill is 51% corn, 49% rye $56 on the market.

Nathan Mumm:

What do you say? Thumbs down.

Ody:

That's too much. I'm with Mark.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, you're going to thumbs up. Okay, you have this on your shelf, mike, it comes down to you.

Ody:

I wouldn't buy it.

Mike Gorday:

You already know what I'm going to give it. What are you going to give it? It's a thumbs up. It's really good.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, all right. Well, we got to split thumbs on this. Nobody cares about your thumb, that's right. Mark will be like. That thumb can go someplace else, exactly, all right. Well, we're just about out of time. We want to thank everybody that listened to our show today. It's an honor to be the host of the show. Remember, the science of tomorrow starts with the technology of today. We'll see you guys next week.

Mike Gorday:

Bye-bye.

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