TechTime with Nathan Mumm

EP 242: A Secret Base Hidden Beneath the North Pole, Meta's Apology After Violent Content Was Recommended to Thousands of Instagram Users. Nathan's Top 8 Sci-fi TV shows worth a revisit, and our Top 5 Replacements for SKYPE | Air Date: 3/4 - 3/10/2025

Nathan Mumm Season 7 Episode 242

Prepare for a whirlwind journey through the latest in technology on this week’s episode, where we uncover surprising secrets, confront pressing issues, and have a little fun along the way. Join us as we dive into the remarkable discovery of a secret military base hidden beneath the North Pole, revealed by NASA’s high-tech radar. As we discuss the history of military operations and the implications of such findings, we invite listeners to reflect on how much remains unknown about our past.

Further complicating our digital lives, we address Meta's recent apology following a significant glitch that exposed violent content to thousands of Instagram users. This incident prompts critical questions regarding the role of corporations in ensuring the safety and integrity of online spaces and the challenges they must navigate to maintain user trust.

The episode takes a sharp turn as we confront the looming end of Skype, with Microsoft announcing its closure. As communications shift to Teams, our hosts guide listeners through the best alternatives available, ensuring they are well-equipped to embrace the changes. From Google Meet to Zoom and beyond, we explore accessible options for every user.

Highlighting the lighter side of technology, we discuss whiskey selection during our tasting segment, with Knob Creek taking center stage. With a robust profile to savor, our insights mingle with tech conversation, creating a warm atmosphere that resonates with our audience. 

To wrap up, we delve into nostalgic territory, sharing our top recommendations for sci-fi TV shows worth a revisit. This blend of tech news, a touch of humor, and personal stories keeps our audience engaged. 

Tune in for an enriching hour of thoughtful discussion, captivating insights, and community interaction. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share your thoughts with us! Join the Tech Time Radio community today and stay updated on the ever-evolving world of technology!

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Broadcasting across the nation, from the East Coast to the West, keeping you up to date on technology while enjoying a little whiskey on the side, with leading-edge topics, along with special guests to navigate technology in a segmented, stylized radio program. The information that will make you go, mmmmm. Pull up a seat, raise a glass with our hosts as we spend the next hour talking about technology for the common person. Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm.

Nathan Mumm:

Welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. The show that makes you go technology news of the week. The show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting across the country with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan, your host technologist with over 30 years of technology expertise. Our co-host here, mike Corday, is MIA, so we have Mr Gregoire that is sitting in his seat. Welcome to the show today.

Marc Gregoire:

Thank you, this is kind of odds moving one seat over. Welcome to the one seat over.

Nathan Mumm:

Mark is our whiskey connoisseur and a technology expert himself. Now we're live streaming during our show on four of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, twitchtv, facebook and LinkedIn. We encourage you to visit us online at techtimeradiocom and become a Patreon supporter at patreoncom. Forward slash techtimeradiocom. And become a Patreon supporter at patreoncom. Forward slash techtimeradio. We're friends from different backgrounds, but we bring the best technology show possible weekly for our family, friends and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have Odi, our producer, at the control panel today. Welcome everyone. Let's start today's show.

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Now on today's show. Now on today's show.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, welcome to Tech Time Radio. Today, we got a show packed with exciting and intriguing stories. First up, we dive into some jaw-dropping tech news and developments. Brace yourself, as we have uncovered a secret military base at the North Pole. Yes, you heard that right. Plus meta issues an apology after a technical glitch, floods instagram reels with violent graphic videos and thousands of users are stunned. Now microsoft has dropped the bombshell, announcing the closure of skype in may, and they have a shocking revelation that their co-pilot, ai, has exposed sensitive content. We're going to talk about what happened there. Last but not least, meet Flashes. That's right. A hot new Instagram rival built atop Blue Sky, has now been released widely and is ready to take the social media world by storm. In addition, of course, we have our standard features, including our technology fail of the week, a possible Nathan Nugget, which we have to get to because it's a very intriguing story.

Marc Gregoire:

I love the Nathan Nugget which we have to get to because it's a very intriguing story and, of course, I love the Nathan.

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This is going to be really good.

Nathan Mumm:

You're going to like this one and pick the day whiskey tasting to see if our selected whiskey pick it's zero, one or two thumbs up at the end of the show. All right, that's my favorite part. That is your favorite part, all right. Well, now it's time for the latest, latest headlines in the.

Speaker 1:

Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, flashes, an Instagram rival built on top of Blue Sky, released widely this week. Let's go to Corinne Westland for more on the story.

Speaker 5:

Looking for an alternative to Instagram, we might have a suitable candidate in Flashes, a recently launched app built on BlueSky that seems to get all the important basics right. If you remember an Instagram before, meta turned it into its Facebook replacement, that is what Flashes is. It's an app for sharing photos and videos. Flashes includes some filters to apply to your photos, along with some custom feeds that you can use if you want, but otherwise, customizations are minimal. It's really an image and video focused version of Blue Sky. Blue Sky now has 30 million users as of January 2025. Back to you guys in the studio. Oh, I love this.

Marc Gregoire:

You predicted this Ah we did Blue Sky.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, so this is called Flashes Now. This app was introduced in January, but they had a couple glitches that they had to work on and fix out. This is the Instagram before Facebook took over, so Instagram was very popular. You could share up to four photos at the time, and guess what? On this app, you can share four pictures, or you can post a video up to a minute in length. All of the original Instagram information and processes is set up. Now what's the best part about this, though, unlike Instagram, is it doesn't use the algorithmic roles that Meta has previously defined. You actually go on in and you get to follow the pages of your choice, and you only get information from those pages. So you can still do that with Instagram, but Instagram you'll see a couple of pages you like, and then, all of a sudden, you get an ad, and then you go through a couple more things and you get another ad. Odie, are you excited about this? I see you biting at the bit here. What's up?

Ody:

So what I'm hearing is I finally have a reason to drop Instagram.

Nathan Mumm:

Yes.

Ody:

I hate Instagram.

Nathan Mumm:

You know what this is going to be a reason to look to have. Do you have your Blue Sky account set up?

Ody:

No, I keep. I'll do it right now. Okay, oh, you haven't set it up yet. No.

Nathan Mumm:

Don't be so much on the show. Keep on the board, but this is the Instagram for Blue Sky. It also means that none of the data from this information being pulled is going to be resold. Uh, the user that created well, no, no, the user that created it did it on open source and said that he just wanted to create an experience like instagram was originally for people that was my question for you.

Marc Gregoire:

So is it somebody that used to work for instagram and took code over and there may be possible lawsuits, or is this somebody that just modeled it after the overall premise?

Nathan Mumm:

I'm pretty sure that, because it has been already out in the app store for a little bit and they had to work on some stuff to fix it. I believe that this is an independent. It went back to what was Instagram like and they probably had an experience of Instagram before Facebook took over and changed it, and so they wanted to just create the same original feeling of what instagram used to be. Now blue sky has 30 million dollar you are 30 million user database that's out there, so this will get picked up and and used quite frequently. I know tech time radio is just created an account for flashes so that we will actually be using stuff that we would have originally post on instagram. We will now put it on flashes on our Blue Sky account.

Marc Gregoire:

I don't expect you to know numbers off the top of your head but, like Twitter, how many on Instagram? Do you know how many users?

Nathan Mumm:

generally, I don't because those numbers change all the time. They do, I just was trying to see ratios. So, Blue Sky is one-third of the well okay, so they said that they're one third of the social media landscape at this time, so I would see that as pretty significant. With 30 million users, it's a lot of people. A lot of artists are going to that, so it's a pretty big uptick on what people have.

Marc Gregoire:

So the new true social is the big one right now. What's that? The new true social is the big one, is it?

Nathan Mumm:

That's. Twitter Well is that Twitter Is Twitter, or is it? Well, that's twitter? Well, is that twitter is twitter.

Marc Gregoire:

That or is it the truth? Isn't truth social? Also its own network? Well, that's the old one. Okay, I don't know who's on that anymore because all they, they all flipped over to twitter once. He long must turned everybody back on, turn it back, everybody back well, there's also threads, which is which is a hybrid of Instagram's Twitter.

Ody:

Yes, their version of it.

Nathan Mumm:

So that was supposed to be the kind of the TikTok equivalent, but that didn't work out really well.

Marc Gregoire:

I don't know anybody on it. Nobody talks positive about it.

Ody:

I like it in the sense that it's a better community than Twitter.

Marc Gregoire:

Okay.

Ody:

But I love the what do you call it? I love the pop culture aspect of Twitter.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, and then you know a lot of people use Twitter still, I mean all the. Nba teams do when I look for my roster.

Marc Gregoire:

You gotta get them on Blue Social.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, Blue Sky is going to be, Blue Sky is going to take it. That's what I think. All right, now We'll see.

Marc Gregoire:

All right, we got story number two, yeah, so 98 feet below the surface is what we're talking about. Okay, and it's not in the ocean. So NASA finds a secret military base at the North Pole. What, yes?

Ody:

Okay.

Marc Gregoire:

So this has a nice twist to it, this story. Okay so scientists from the JPL so the Jet Propulsion Laboratory have uncovered a massive abandoned military base beneath the North Pole in Greenland. This discovery happened while they were studying the polar ice layer with a high-precision radar, and they did not expect to find this. I guess they were never informed by the US government that we had a secret base in the North Pole in the past. Yeah so it's called Camp Sentry, also known as the City Under the Ice. It's a relic from the Cold war that was built by the U S army corps of engineers in 1959. Wow, it was designed to test construction techniques in the Arctic and experiment with deployment of nuclear weapons, reaching a network of 0.75, or three fourths, miles of interconnected tunnels. Okay so the world wars love tunnels.

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, so I mean this is this is like a almost a real live fallout type of deal. If you've ever seen like the tv show fallout or if you're familiar. So this is like a bunker built underground where people are living in, with tunnels.

Ody:

They have everything in those tunnels or a more modern take yeah the planet of the war, on the planet of the apes. Okay, yeah, so in in those tunnels.

Marc Gregoire:

Talking about that, yeah, they had a hospital, a laboratory, a chapel, a library, a recreation areas with a capacity for 200 people, and it was powered by a nuclear reactor, the pm2a, and the site was abandoned in a beautiful year of 1967 okay why is that a beautiful year?

Nathan Mumm:

great people were born, that okay. Is that your birthday, the year I get?

Ody:

it. I wonder who.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. So how was this discovered? Though, let's talk about the technology. Is there a certain technology that was actually developed to find this information?

Marc Gregoire:

Yeah, well, it wasn't that complex. So scientists were flying over in their Gulfstream III aircraft and it was equipped with NASA's uninhibited aerial vehicle synthetic aperture radar Okay, that's a mouthful yeah, the UAVSAR. So it was just radar and they're just flying over taking a look at the ice layers and boom, there it was, this huge city under the ice. So their goal was to calibrate, validate and understand the capacities and limitations of the radar. So they're just testing out the radar for mapping the internal layers of the ice. But they found a secret surprise, and I don't know how secret it is. I mean, it was a World War II base that has been constructed by a lot by the military engineers.

Marc Gregoire:

So a ton of people worked on it, so yeah, but it wasn't released. It wasn't right, but nothing was really done with it. It sounds like so it just everybody didn't really care, they just kind of forgot about it, they just kind of left it one day and kind of like the hatch and lost you ever see that yeah exactly.

Ody:

It's all this real important thing.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh my God, you had to have numbers that were pressed every so many minutes and then, all of a sudden, season three comes out. We've totally forgot that. Never mind all right.

Ody:

Well, they blew up that. I just watched that for the first time.

Nathan Mumm:

They blew up the hatch that's what happened, yeah, and desmond, and desmond's down there on his bike, god I love desmond okay all right, here we go. Well, you don't speak in a sci-fi stuff. You're gonna like, uh, the nathan nugget today. Then I'll just tell you oh yeah, we're gonna be talking about some sci-fi things, all right. Story number three meta apologized for a technical error after thousands of users saw violent graphic videos on Instagram and real speed.

Marc Gregoire:

So it's two big people have to apologize on the show today, meta, and Well, we'll be talking about that. And Mr Moe.

Nathan Mumm:

That's right. That's right, all right, so let's talk about it. So these are the graphic videos that people submit that get blocked so that people don't have it. These these videos had, uh, people being shot, people being hung, death. I mean very, very violent, uh disturbing um videos and graphic pictures that were on this. Well, meta apologized for a technical error after thousands of users saw the violent graphic videos on their instagram real feeds. A meta spokesman said we have fixed an error that caused some users to see content in their Instagram real feeds that should not have been recommended. We apologize for the mistake.

Marc Gregoire:

So so let me read the subtext here and tell me if I'm accurate or not. They're not apologizing for having the content on their site. They're just apologizing that certain people that maybe didn't want to see it saw it.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, so that's how they well, that's a big difference. Okay, that's how they come out with the press release. But here's what the story is. These are videos that they classify, that should not be shown to anybody and to anybody Okay. And those accidentally got checkmarked or got into somebody's feeds as recommendations.

Marc Gregoire:

Could that be because they they eliminated the division that does this?

Nathan Mumm:

I don't know about that Meta did not comment further on what caused the glitch. The issue comes as Meta has been making a push to boost short-form video engagement on his platform with rivals like TikTok. Tiktok has just over a month remaining to find a new non-Chinese owner for its US operations or face a ban in the country. Instagram has been seeking to attract users. Worry about the possibility of losing TikTok by introducing new features similar to those to TikTok. What was that, Odie? You're all excited.

Ody:

Wait, they're still wanting to ban TikTok.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, yeah so.

Ody:

That's not off the table yet that's not off the table. What is going? Okay TikTok.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, that's not off the table yet what is going on?

Ody:

I give up.

Nathan Mumm:

There's a couple people and companies that have offered to buy TikTok from ByteDance USA, which is the derivative of ByteDance from China. So that is still out there, that someone is going to look. I know, kevin O'Leary, do you ever watch that Shark Tank show?

Ody:

Yeah, okay, kevin O'Leary, do you?

Nathan Mumm:

ever watch that Shark Tank show. Yeah, okay, kevin O'Leary, mr Horrible or Mr Wonderful, that's right.

Marc Gregoire:

Mr Horrible, mr Horrible.

Nathan Mumm:

Let me just tell you his royalty deals If you sometimes you listen to them, sometimes they're not bad and sometimes they're the stupidest thing ever. So if he does a royalty at 2x, you're okay, if he does it for, should probably walk away. But long story short, he has an investment group that would like to purchase that. There's other companies that have stepped up that are interested in purchasing tick tock. One of them may be in the Seattle area. I know that it's interested in that. So we'll see what happens. And we'll just see what happens. I do think tick tock will be sold and I'm sure that it'll be a big press and that there are Do you think it actually will be sold, or concessions, because it's different.

Marc Gregoire:

So you know, I don't want to get too political.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah.

Marc Gregoire:

But the old administration, what they were trying to do and their purpose was one direction yeah. And the new one seems to be a different direction and what they're trying to achieve. The new one doesn't really seem to want to ban them.

Nathan Mumm:

I think they're just trying to gain something different out of it either sell it to an american I think they'll sell it, I think they'll partner with I think they're gonna have to sell it I, I don't or get concessions, or get huge concessions or huge payments basically, it's a business leverage deal, yes, and everything's kind of business leverage right now.

Nathan Mumm:

All right Well. So Meta has made significant changes on its controversial policies and moderation. The company said in January they would do away with fact checkers and is now using community notes, just like the platform X uses. So those are all available there too.

Marc Gregoire:

All right Well let's go to story number four, I love. Are all available there too, All right, Well, let's go to story number four. I love that. Do away with fact checkers, fact checkers, and just we'll do community, whatever you think you know it's.

Nathan Mumm:

And then you can put it out there. Well, there you go. Story number four in August 2003, a platform that allowed you to use voice calls from a phone number that included video conferencing was created. This was named sky peer-to-peer now known today as skype.

Ody:

So what's?

Nathan Mumm:

happening. Microsoft bought skype. The company uh has billions of downloads. It says it has billions of downloads that have been used for their real-time communications. Now microsoft chief steve ballmer was the individual that actually helped put the deal together for microsoft to buy skype now I know skype isn't as prevalent in my community anymore, in the us, oh, but you said overseas.

Marc Gregoire:

There you gotta talk about that overseas.

Nathan Mumm:

So, uh, we have great friends that are in africa and other other countries and continents across the world and let me just tell you that it is very important to use Skype in the communication area there with 2G, 3g type of technologies maybe not at the 5G type of areas to relay, to do delayed video, and Skype was really good on a slow connection, not always having to stream the video. So it's live and all the movements are there, but kind of bits by bits, so you could still see the person, still see information, share information, and it's a but is it waning Cause when I travel abroad?

Marc Gregoire:

yeah, Um, I have seen a shift to a different app. Well, we're going to talk about that. I wonder if it's the same app I'm seeing.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, well, so Microsoft announced when Windows 11 came on out, its new operating system.

Nathan Mumm:

That was never going to be out because Windows 10 was the last operating system they were ever going to release, but that changed. It said that Microsoft Teams would be integrated by default, while Skype for the first time was not. Now, teams have seen boost in popularity during COVID pandemic as people moved their work and personal meetings all online. Microsoft wants to streamline its free service to focus on Microsoft Teams. Skype users now have a choice to move over to Microsoft Teams or export their Skype data, including chats, contacts and call histories, into a format that can be imported into another tool. For Skype customers who paid for some features, I have paid for credits. I still have some credits, probably in my account. I think there's like 100 credits. They need to use up their services before it officially goes dark.

Marc Gregoire:

In the next couple months.

Nathan Mumm:

Here is what they're planning to do.

Marc Gregoire:

So I know I use Teams a lot, but I do that as part of the integrated Microsoft Suite, since I have Office 365. The question is can you run Teams as a standalone?

Nathan Mumm:

app. Oh, what options are available. In a special segment of Say what, we explore new alternatives to replace Skype. So that's going to be our main feature today, and you might be surprised at our number one suggestion. All of that will be in our next segment. Here, mark, ooh, I'm excited, all right. Well, that ends our top technology stories of the week. Moving on, we have our Say what segment up next. So buckle up tech enthusiasts, as we drive into the show 88 miles per hour. Into the next segment, we will see after this commercial break.

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Nathan Mumm:

All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. Our weekly show covers the top technology subjects without any political agenda. We verify the facts, we do it with a sense of humor, in less than 60 minutes and, of course, a little whiskey on the side. Now programming. Note from a listener in Canada.

Marc Gregoire:

Big James Bond fan Talking about checking the facts. Well programming note from a listener in Canada Big James talking about checking the facts.

Nathan Mumm:

She noted. This comes to us from. What was her name here? Judy, that's right. Judy sent us an email. I got two emails. She's a big James Bond. Who was the other one? David was another individual, was David, that's correct. So programming note that the information we had from yahoocom's entertainment segment that they posted on there was incorrect, so we cut and paste some of our stories. So when it's really technology wise and this was kind of, we're going to say what happened. So first, first of all, roger Moore was born in London, uk, and Daniel Craig was born in Cheshire, england, uk, so both of those on the segment should have been that those were born in the UK, so that this would be like the third or fourth person in the UK that be the new James Bond with Bezos information. So we want to thank Judy for bringing this to our attention and, trust me, the intern had to drink Trader Joe's Kentucky bourbon whiskey selection One of our worst ever all this week for sending us that bad article.

Nathan Mumm:

That is torture, that was torture, that was torture, that was torture. So we verify the facts and we do it with a sense of humor, but I would think that Yahoo never mind. So, yes, so we will make sure from any other, especially our uh segments. On technology, we spend a lot of time digging into them, but I just kind of overlooked, and you know what she said.

Marc Gregoire:

He could just throw it in chat, gpt, and he would have got your information well, well, if she listens to the show, she also know chat gpt spits out a lot of bad information.

Nathan Mumm:

oh, that could that could have been I could have just done the Yahoo article there you go All right. Well, today, mark Gregoire, our whiskey connoisseur, is in studio, as both in the main seat right now and, of course, as our connoisseur of whiskey. What do we have here today? It looks like a Knob Creek, it is. Tell me a little bit about it.

Marc Gregoire:

Single barrel, select bourbon. It is the Seafood Fest 2024 bottle Now from Knob Creek's website store specific offerings from a bourbon barrel specifically chosen by your local retailer through their single barrel program. Now this one is from the Ballard Cut in Seattle, washington. It is bold and complex. With vanilla, nuts and oak it has a lingering, warm, full flavor. Now the company is Beam Suntory. The distillation is Jim Beam Distillery in Claremont, kentucky. It is a straight bourbon. This one is 10 years old. It's 120 proof, 77% corn, 13% rye, 10% malted barley and the price is about $70 for this type of whiskey.

Nathan Mumm:

I actually like it already, so I'll tell you it's pretty good. So you know what? I don't know if I'm going to give it a thumbs up or thumbs down, but I am definitely very interested in taking a look at what we have.

Marc Gregoire:

Yeah hopefully Mike can show up for the second half of the show, because this was specifically brought in for him and I know he likes this type of profile.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay.

Marc Gregoire:

I'm excited to hear his take. All right, that sounds good, all right now, please don't forget to like and subscribe. In addition, please comment. Let us know if you have a whiskey you'd like us to review. Drink responsibly, heaven can wait.

Nathan Mumm:

With our first whiskey tasting completed, let's move on to our feature segment. Today we have on our subjects, say what the alternatives to skype say what all right, microsoft is officially shutting down skype.

Nathan Mumm:

Rest in peace. Even if you haven't used the app in years, as possible. Skype was your introduction into the modern video chats. The app made it easy to call friends and family via video, no matter where in the world you were at. As long as you had a stable internet connection, you could Skype. The opportunity to see video and have audio at the same time was revolutionary and, as we talked about, skype is going for good.

Nathan Mumm:

Now, once Microsoft pulls the plug on Skype, legacy users will need a new platform to turn to. Microsoft will encourage you to switch to Teams and, of course, you can do that, but I believe there are better alternatives out there with less friction and better to be used. That's why platforms that work with people's existing accounts and platforms that are the best out there. We decided to go through them and talk about the top five. Now there's, of course, many different apps. You can use Viber and Signal, which are really good to have texting and call features, and those are private, but I'm going to try to actually go through what I would consider the top ones that most people have.

Nathan Mumm:

Now let me just tell you stay away from Telegram unless you're advanced with picking up scams and can filter out the provocative items that they send to you, I'd probably stay away from that platform. So let's start, and I'm going to start with number one. Number one is Google Meet. That's right If your goal is to find the easiest video call solution for the average person in your contact list. Guess what Google Meet is it In 2025, changes are high that the person you're trying to reach has already created a Google account, whether that's a Gmail account, a YouTube account. Most everybody Do. You have a Gmail account, mike.

Mike Gorday:

I've got several Gmail accounts. Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

So this is absolutely the ability to have, like your Gmail account on there, and so it's easy to connect with. If somebody doesn't have a Google account, that is a requirement that they go and create a free Gmail account. Now it doesn't matter really what platform you're on, whether you're on a Mac, a PC, whether you're on an iOS device, an Android device every single one of them has the Google applications installed. Google Meet works on just about all devices. It's free and, of course, you get some perks if you pay for the higher plans, including high-end HD quality video. But the main issue with Google Meet, though, is that it's not necessarily all that intuitive. The service does seem to be more of a business, professional use than casual conversation, so it isn't necessarily the ideal Skype replacement. But but hey, for the fact that it's free and have to have the user option as meetings. I wish they would just do, probably like google chat, but they call it meetings.

Nathan Mumm:

On your application, you can still talk to family members and friends for free, but skype was free. Well, skype was free, skype was free, and skype is no longer in, since whether it's being retired, so since it's, you know, there is no alternative. Skype was the best because you were allowed to use it. You could talk to anybody from Skype to Skype, and then you could even do Skype to a phone number, and so it's really going to be a shame, but I can guarantee you one of these people are going to pick up and, I believe, take the mantle after Skype goes away. Now here's a problem, though there's a 60-minute limit on calls at the time for free users, so right now, if you use it, you can only talk for an hour, and then you have to disconnect and you can't connect again within a four-hour window.

Nathan Mumm:

So if I want to talk to you for two hours, I'm going to have to talk to you for the first hour of your time stop and then I'm gonna have to come on back and get you the next hour.

Mike Gorday:

I feel like. I feel like I can make a prediction here. Well, what's that? I, I bet you google that skype is being retired so that all these pay, pay for services can replace it.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, that's right. Well, google uh meet supports video calls with up to 100 participants, just as skype did. So I don't know if if on a personal uh family get together, I don't know if on a personal family get-together, I don't know if you need 100 people, but if you need 100 people and your family's that large, you can still all meet with Google Meet. That is our number one recommendation. Our second recommendation is WhatsApp. Like Google, whatsapp's insanely popular around the world.

Nathan Mumm:

If you're not using WhatsApp, someone you know probably is, whatsapp standardizes gives you some advantages. Someone you know probably is, whatsapp standardizes gives you some advantages. With Google Meet, it has a very good chance that you have a person that has a video account already set up on WhatsApp. Better yet, the app doesn't have a time limit for calls, so you can talk as long as you want. So the reason WhatsApp isn't at the very top of that list is you know who's in charge of WhatsApp, right, facebook. So Meta's in charge of whatsapp, right, facebook. So meta is in charge of whatsapp. So that so they automatically move down there, because when you're on your calls, they can actually use recording and information that you chat for their building relationship model for the individuals that are on there, so not your. Conversations are not private. They are still a part of the say what so that's right, that is right, they're not.

Nathan Mumm:

They are not private. They are still a part of the say what? So that's right, that is right, they're not, they are not private and they always are available to be used. Now they say that they do a better job of not using that information and necessarily sell it. But it only holds 32 people. So if you're in a large family maybe, uh, you can't do this and it doesn't have this 100 people, but it does have the video option for calls and you can switch between video.

Mike Gorday:

And it doesn't have this 100 people, but it does have the video option for calls and you can switch between video and audio very simply I'm sort of of the opinion that if you have a family that has more than 100 members, that you're not going to be persons that use technology to get together you're gonna probably all do a big potluck.

Nathan Mumm:

Is that what you're saying?

Mike Gorday:

I'm thinking yeah, I'm thinking barbecues and other, other type of get together yeah, all right, well, bring your own beer, types of things okay, well, number three on our list.

Nathan Mumm:

Here we got facebook messenger. If not one meta app, why not another? Facebook messenger has been the option for facebook users for years, simply because it's built right into meta's flagship social network. Now, now I use this, my wife and I communicate on this quite a bit, so I do use this, but sometimes I don't check it for a couple days, though, because Messenger is kind of an integrated chat feature that's available there.

Nathan Mumm:

Facebook Messenger also does support video calls for up to 50 people through a feature called Rooms, but Meta has since discontinued the option of allowing that to be directly taken in the consumer version, and it's the upgraded version that you need to have for that. Now there are no time limits on Messenger calls, so if you want to have a conversation, you can talk as long as you want, of course, on the Facebook platform. Now we're going to go to the. That was number three, and my fourth selection would be FaceTime. So if you have an Apple account your person trying to chat with somebody from an Apple account you can just FaceTime them. Very simple to use. Use this for my in-laws, for different people If they have an Apple device. I have an Apple device we can connect. It does not work, though, from Apple to Google. That is is the problem, and a lot of people have Google devices. So if I was trying to get a hold of you, Mike, and I'm trying to do a FaceTime, probably not going to work because your main phone is what?

Mike Gorday:

It's an Android.

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, so that is the limitation. Otherwise, though, it's great to use, to communicate back and forth and to have things go as needed. Now things get even trickier if you don't do that. My next recommendation would be to use Microsoft Teams. So, surprisingly, they want you to switch from Skype to Teams. Teams is a platform that is very difficult to use. Odie just gave it a thumbs down. Why did you get Odie jump in here real quick? Why did you give it a thumbs down for Microsoft Teams?

Ody:

I just hate Teams. You have to download a whole separate app for what is essentially zoom. Yeah, and it's not worth it. It's not worth anything microsoft related.

Nathan Mumm:

I've never really enjoyed, okay, oh wow, you hate.

Ody:

So like office 365. You don't like that, no wow, okay, well, okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, let me just tell you teams is not easy to use. It's probably the most difficult. It's also not accessible. It's not accessible. Well, if you have a Microsoft account and everybody has a Microsoft account, right? No, not really no.

Ody:

Everybody has a Gmail account. Yeah, they don't have a live account or they don't have an app. You know the whole internet meme like oh, when you go into Internet Explorer, you type in Google. Internet Explorer, you type in Google.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah.

Ody:

You don't go to Internet Explorer, you don't go to Internet.

Mike Gorday:

Explorer what I mean by that is if you're somebody who uses an interpreter, teams does not work well with that, because you can't pin things and let it alone.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, really Okay. Well, this app does support up to 100 people, but you can chat for 60 minutes at a time. One-on-one chats are available for up to 30 hours at a time, so if I want to do a one-on-one chat, I can do 30 hours, but if I want to do three people, 60 minutes is the limit on my free account. Now, if I have a business account with Microsoft, I get the time that's available there, but it is not very easy to use. All right, my fifth recommendation, and this is because of cost. And what am I Say? What here?

Mike Gorday:

Cheap.

Nathan Mumm:

Frugal, frugal frugal.

Mike Gorday:

All right, it's Zoom. That's just another word.

Nathan Mumm:

Now I actually use Zoom though in my day-to-day life. I have a Zoom account. I pay $19 a month just for the options of having a nice video conferencing device that I don't have to have everybody connect to. Our production meeting used to be done on Zoom. We've now moved it over to Microsoft Teams to try to do that, but anytime I have anybody that is not technical guess what I always send them a Zoom link, because it's much easier to connect to.

Nathan Mumm:

You can connect directly from the web. The problem, though, is their free version. Their free version only gives you 40 minutes to do a call, so unless you're so, if you're trying to have a conversation, 40 minutes is normally not well. Maybe if you're talking to somebody that you don't want to talk to very long, it'd be plenty of time, but 40 minute limits really are kind of killing zoom's free call features. But, as zoom attests to, they have 95% of their users on their platform pay for their services, so I guess if you want to make it free available for longer than 60 minutes, that would help out. If you don't, zoom is probably going to continue to have their $19 a month service to be available there.

Nathan Mumm:

Sure yeah.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

So my number one recommendation is a Google Meet platform Available for free Web-based client. You don't even have to download anything. Odie, have you ever used Google Meet? I mean because you're anti-team. So have you used Google Meet anytime?

Ody:

No, no, like like years ago, you haven't used google do you have used google meet mike?

Nathan Mumm:

no, okay, so we're gonna no I, I used zoom and you like zoom I like zoom.

Mike Gorday:

I don't like paying for zoom, okay, uh, everybody has to use teams in my organization now because you know they bought into the kool-aid. Yeah, so now we use now, we use Teams. You use Teams all the time.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah.

Mike Gorday:

There you go. And then I think somebody here at the table switched us from Zoom to Teams. I know.

Marc Gregoire:

How dare they?

Mike Gorday:

Because you know, for some reason, for some, unknown, for some unknown reason.

Nathan Mumm:

Stupid reason Because we all need to figure out how to use the Microsoft systems. That's right, that.

Mike Gorday:

Figure out how to use the Microsoft systems. That's right.

Nathan Mumm:

That's because we have a Microsoft Microsoft. It took me a long time to move to Teams from Zoom.

Ody:

Yeah, I wish we'd nip it in the bud, okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, that ends our segment. Say what Next? We have Mike's mesmerizing moment. Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment. What does Mike have to say today? All right, here's my question to you, Mike. From secret bases to government cover-ups, do you think our government has secrets surrounding aliens and life outside our planet?

Mike Gorday:

Why are you asking me that question?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, this is going to continue on to the Nathan Nuggets. So this is all kind of building up from our story that we talked about the secret bunker and everything.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, you know everybody has a real thing about this alien stuff, right? Yeah, you know, if you watch ancient aliens and that guy with the hair, you know he's always talking about this unexplained.

Speaker 2:

Does the government have secrets?

Mike Gorday:

uh, absolutely. I believe the government has secrets. Do they have government government secrets about aliens? I don't know, you don't know. You know if they probably, they probably do okay, but I can't answer whether or not aliens exist on this planet.

Nathan Mumm:

If you think that they, if you think there's secrets and they're covering it up, that means you must think that there's life outside our planet.

Mike Gorday:

I think there's life outside our planet, but I'm not convinced that life visits our planet from other places. Okay Right, so you know, I watch a lot of these programs at times, and most of the evidence that people get are difficult to interpret, are difficult to interpret. Uh, also, the human brain likes to put patterns, knowing patterns, on the thing. So when we see something, we want to attribute certain things to it. So we, we will. We will convince ourselves that what we saw was a flying saucer rather than something else. All right, well, all right, well, guess what?

Nathan Mumm:

we're gonna be talking about.

Mike Gorday:

I don't is this our ancient aliens?

Nathan Mumm:

well, yeah, I, I love watching that. And then there's one with, uh, dan akroyd out there like, and there's one with william shatner, I think it's. There's a bunch of those out, I know there.

Mike Gorday:

I know it's, it's, it's a, it's a phenomenon, it's like cryptozoology and all these other things. These, these are things that I think are fun to. How are the pyramids? The pyramids were built by human beings and ingenuity. That's one of the problems with these things with the aliens is that it takes away from human ingenuity and intelligence. The pyramids were built by people and intelligence. The pyramids were built by people. They weren't built by aliens with secret little rock moving technology. Okay, that makes sense.

Nathan Mumm:

Mike, thank you for that mesmerizing moment. Up next we have this Week in Technology. Say what, now would be a great time to enjoy a little whiskey on the side, as we're going to be doing so during the break. You're listening to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm. See you in a few minutes.

Mike Gorday:

Hey Mike, yo what's?

Nathan Mumm:

up, hey. So you know what?

Mike Gorday:

We need people to start liking our social media page If you like our show, if you really like us you could use your support on Patreoncom. Is it Patreon? I think it's Patreon. Okay, Patreon. If you really like us, you can like us at patreoncom, I butcher the English language.

Nathan Mumm:

You know, you butcher the English language all the time it's patreoncom, patreoncom.

Mike Gorday:

If you really like our show, you can subscribe to patreoncom and help us out.

Nathan Mumm:

And you can visit us on that Facebook platform. You know the one that Zuckerberg owns, the one that we always bag on. Yeah, we're on Facebook too. Yeah, like us on Facebook too. Yeah, like us on Facebook. Do you know what our Facebook page is? Tech Time Radio. At Tech Time Radio. You know what? There's a trend here.

Mike Gorday:

It seems to be that there's a trend and that's Tech Time Radio, or you can even Instagram with us and that's at Tech Time Radio.

Nathan Mumm:

That's at Tech Time Radio. Or you can find us on TikTok, and it's Tech Time Radio. It's Tech Time Radio.

Mike Gorday:

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Nathan Mumm:

That's it. It's that simple.

Speaker 1:

And now let's look back at this week in technology.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, we're going to our way back machine to March 9th 1999. Al Gore was misquoted as saying I invented the internet. No, he did.

Mike Gorday:

Well, hang on, let's talk about it. The United States Vice President.

Nathan Mumm:

Al Gore gives an interview on CNN's Late Edition in which he states, quote unquote during my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system. This is the famous statement that was then kind of misquoted to say, and that he said that he invented the internet, but that was a big. That was a big.

Speaker 2:

That was probably the reason that he invented the internet, but that was a big.

Nathan Mumm:

That was a big, I was probably. The reason that he did not win the election was well there was also the lockbox there was.

Mike Gorday:

I don't know if you remember the lockbox.

Nathan Mumm:

You're going to put stuff in the lockbox, yeah, so what I think he was trying to say is that, during his time in congress, he approved bills that allowed people to do different things, which which included technology. Sure but you know, you know, soundbites are soundbites. Right, that's right.

Mike Gorday:

We want somebody who's going to stand up for the rights of everybody and tell us that you know he created the internet. That's right All right.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, that was this Week in Technology. If you ever wanted to watch some Tech Time history, with over 230-plus weekly broadcasts spanning our four plus years of video, podcasts and blog information, you can visit techtimeradiocom to watch our other shows. We're going to take a commercial break. When we return, we have the Mark Whiskey mumble and the review of what we are tasting after this Hello, my name is Arthur and my life's work is connecting people with coffee.

Speaker 8:

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Speaker 1:

The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's Whiskey Mumble.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. All right For those that are joining the show and you say Mike just mesmerized and came right into the deal.

Mike Gorday:

I don't think that was very mesmerizing, but whatever All right, so he got stuck in some traffic, is that?

Nathan Mumm:

I don't want to talk about it? Okay, all right, there we go. We're glad that you're here. All right, let's talk about our whiskey though. Let's talk about our whiskey though.

Marc Gregoire:

Let's go right into that Well before we do that, it's March 4th today. Okay, and I love today, and I know Odie's going to jump in on this one and laugh out loud.

Mike Gorday:

And she finds out what it is Sorry, laughing out loud.

Nathan Mumm:

Today, Nathan, just for you, it's National Grammar Day, oh wow.

Marc Gregoire:

So today we let our inner Nathan out for National Grammar Day.

Ody:

Right after I roasted him once.

Mike Gorday:

Wait, did we let our inner Nathan out, or did we put it in a lockbox?

Nathan Mumm:

Maybe you know what I created the internet. Okay, all right.

Mike Gorday:

You created bad speaking. Okay, there you go.

Marc Gregoire:

So the motto for today is it's not only a date, it is an imperative. March 4th, on March 4th, to speak well, write well and help others do the same. So we at Tech Time Radio take this seriously. So we will not have Nathan Speak. Another word for today there we go.

Mike Gorday:

Remember those commas, buddy, remember those commas.

Nathan Mumm:

I use Grammarly.

Ody:

It don't matter what you use. You can write things phonetically. You're still going to mess it up. Thank you guys.

Nathan Mumm:

I love my staff.

Mike Gorday:

Unlike Nathan Abraham.

Marc Gregoire:

Lincoln had an excellent grammar skill and used them to craft eloquent speeches. Now the name of Knob Creek pays homage to a small creek that runs through President Abraham Lincoln's childhood home on the Knob Creek Farm in Kentucky. Okay, this name was chosen to evoke the simplicity and hands-on craftsmanship typical of pre-prohibition small batch bourbon Now Jim Beam bourbons, are beloved in the whiskey community. Their profile generally does not align with my palate. They tend to be very nutty, moving forward towards peanuts and peanut butter, which is not my jam.

Mike Gorday:

However, I saw what you did there it's not my jam to get that peanut butter and jam.

Marc Gregoire:

Hopefully today's whiskey is like peanut butter and jelly. However, Knob Creek picks especially. I jammed to get that peanut butter and jelly, so hopefully today's whiskey is like peanut butter and jelly.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, all right.

Marc Gregoire:

However, knob Creek picks, especially picked by Tommy from the Ballard Cut, have been delicious, and this is no exception. This is an easy drinking high proof bourbon, okay yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

I'm enjoying this. Well, you know what Whiskey and technology are a great pairing, just like streaming services and non-scipical commercials.

Mike Gorday:

Are you serious? I'm still on this. You just eat this like peanut butter and jelly.

Nathan Mumm:

I know but I wanted to go back to. I haven't ranted enough about having to watch a 45-minute show on a streaming service that takes me an hour and 15 minutes instead of the hour that it would be on regular television.

Ody:

Have you thought about pirating instead?

Nathan Mumm:

hour that it would be on regular television have you thought about pirating instead.

Marc Gregoire:

Oh, that's a great idea. Thanks, odie. Wow, what do you mean?

Nathan Mumm:

The pirate king over there. Has he thought of pirating? That's like Odie. Odie is like the hacker. Odie works on the side for one of those other type of places.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry Wow.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, all right. Well, you know what Guys you're going to love this. Let's get ready now for our technology fail. We are out of time. Congratulations, you're a failure.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I failed. Did I yes, did I yes, did I.

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, All right. This week's technology fail comes to us from, for the first time ever, Microsoft, your buddies. Microsoft, Microsoft's co-pilot AI assistant, is exposing contents of more than 20,000 private GitHub repositories from companies including Google, Intel, PayPal, IBM and many others and of, of course, themselves. Now these repositories belong to more than 16,000 organizations who originally posted to GitHub as public information, but then later they went in and they set their privacy to private, often after developers responsible realized that they contained authentication credentials allowing unauthorized access to the type of confidential data. But months later, these private pages remain available if you go to Microsoft Copilot and search for them Now.

Nathan Mumm:

The AI security firm Lasso discovered the behavior in the second half of 2024. After finding in January, the Copilot continued to store private repositories and make them available. Lasso set out to measure how big this problem really was After discovering Microsoft was exposing one of Lasso's own private repositories. The Lasso research traced the problem back to a caching mechanism in Bing. The Microsoft search engine indexed the pages when they were originally published as public and then never bothered to remove the entries from the pages when they were originally published as public, and then never bothered to remove the entries from the pages when they were turned to private later. Since copilot uses bing as its primary search engine, the private data was available in the ai chatbot for everyone to see.

Nathan Mumm:

So this is a I consider this a double fail, so it's kind of a double well, so it's also a fail on people when you create your repositories. That's why it's a double fail.

Marc Gregoire:

It's kind of a double well, so it's also a fail on people when you create your repositories. That's why it's a double fail. It's that is the. You put it public.

Nathan Mumm:

It's technically public for that period of time, and so what happened is none of the new data is out there, but it's the old data that was publicly available at the time that it indexed it. And then people were like, oops, guess what? That's probably shouldn't be public, it should probably be private. But now dropbox does a good job of this, because when you create an actual folder within dropbox, it always has it private by default. So you have to actually go on in and make it public. Github did not do that.

Nathan Mumm:

It does that now triple fail so it did not do that originally.

Mike Gorday:

When you would create a repository, it always had it as public by default so you have to go on, and then we need to get al to come back and fix this stuff oh we do, don't we that's right, okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, that was our technology fail. Now we're going to head out to our last commercial break. When we turn, we got a long time topic all of you guys are going to enjoy on the nathan nugget. Then, of course, we have our pick of the day. So sit back, raise a glass. You're listening to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm. You definitely want to see this next segment.

Mike Gorday:

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Speaker 1:

The book pository and more. This is your nugget of the week.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, this is the nathan nugget. Now some sci-fi tv shows have gotten better with time and makes for a great rewatch. I'm a big. I've been watching this new show called Paradise on Hulu Unbelievable. So guess what I decided to do? I decided to go through and create a list of the eight most, in my opinion, popular sci-fi. I'm going to start with eight. I'm going to move all the way on down. These are TV shows that you should go out and rewatch that are sci-fi related. Now, I did not put the X-Files in there, because that's kind of a drama, sci-fi and mystery, so that was eliminated from this list and so people are going to be like that's the best.

Marc Gregoire:

That would be number one, possibly, okay, so.

Nathan Mumm:

I have sci-fi and here we go, ready to go. Number eight, warehouse 13. From 2009 to 2014, a Secret Service agent essentially goes in and they are taking care of Warehouse 13 in rural South Dakota. They find themselves a part of a team of agents tasked with tracking down and recovering supernatural artifacts to be stored in the warehouse. Now have you seen Warehouse 13,? Mark or Mike? Have you guys seen that show?

Mike Gorday:

Yep, all right, yep, it's a spinoff of Eureka.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, did you like Warehouse 13? Do you think it's a pretty good sci-fi?

Mike Gorday:

show. Yeah, I thought it was pretty good.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, mark. Have you seen that? Never even heard of it. Okay, well, it should be on your list. Have you seen it, odie? No, warehouse 13. All right, now, we All right. Miscalculation during a wormhole jump leads a group of friends and strangers to travel between alternate Earths. So this is kind of like before Marvel decided to do the whole multiverse using a handheld device with their own set of rules. They go and they take a look at everything from when men ruled the world and English won the Revolutionary War, all different type of subjects that happened or didn't happen in history, and they explore each Revolutionary War, all different type of subjects that happened or didn't happen in history, and they explore each of those items. Sliders Now, this has Jerry O'Connell in it. It's got John Rias Davies, so it's got a pretty good group of cast that's in there. It was on for five seasons. Have you seen that?

Mike Gorday:

Mike, I remember watching it way back, way back when. Did you seen that, Mike? I remember watching it way back when Did you like it Sliders? You know I'm going to say probably not, because I don't have a lot of memories about it, mark, did you ever?

Nathan Mumm:

watch Sliders. It was Quantum Leap.

Marc Gregoire:

It would have been probably almost my number three or number four on the list, except for if you take the last couple of seasons where they started changing the cast a little bit and they had some different writers.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah they jumped the shark it was the first three seasons are phenomenal and the last two kind of struggled a bit.

Marc Gregoire:

Their storylines remind me of a lot of Star Trek's so that was seven.

Nathan Mumm:

Now we're going to six. Tv show called Fringe from 2008-2013 sci-fi regarding two worlds and had olivia dunningham was the character walter bishop and peter bishop their travel between both uh, our standard universe and a parallel universe. Leonard nimoy was a uh regular on that cast also. It was was on for five seasons. Came on out in 2008. Did you ever watch the TV show Fringe, mike? Yeah, that was a pretty good one.

Mike Gorday:

Pretty good Did you ever watch that, Mark I?

Nathan Mumm:

re-watched it.

Marc Gregoire:

I never got into it.

Nathan Mumm:

You never got into it. All right, Odie, did you watch Fringe? See, these are all things that you're going to want to go home and then add them to the queue of your list.

Mike Gorday:

All right, my next one. That's a serious look of contempt over there?

Nathan Mumm:

Is he over there? She was like yeah.

Mike Gorday:

F you dude.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, okay, the next one, third.

Marc Gregoire:

Rock from the Sun 1996 to 2001.

Speaker 5:

All right, what that's?

Nathan Mumm:

not sci-fi.

Mike Gorday:

Well, it's a sitcom about extraterrestrials that come on down and deal with.

Nathan Mumm:

So that is sci-fi. It's aliens coming in.

Mike Gorday:

This was a really good show, but I'm not sure it should be on this list.

Nathan Mumm:

You don't think it should be on this list. Well, I think it's sci-fi-less. It's a very good show. It's a phenomenal show Phenomenal. So it's a sci-fi show. It's about aliens having to deal with people in America, in the world, and how crazy we are compared to their alien life forms. John lithgow was on it. I mean a great cast, great cast. So you watch that. Jane curtin, yep, yeah, yeah, uh, uh. Joseph gordon levitt was on there too. That's right, he was the kid he was the kid.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, that's right, all right okay here we go.

Nathan Mumm:

this is probably one of, I think, the all-time. This is the largest episodic TV series of all time for sci-fi Episodic Episodic, because they would do 24 episodes in a season instead of just 10 or 12.

Mike Gorday:

This one's a big one.

Nathan Mumm:

Stargate SG-1 from 1997 to 2007. All right, this had to do with a spinoff of the television series. No no no, no.

Mike Gorday:

Or the movie, oh the movie.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, the movie. Sorry, it came with the movie. And then there was two other spinoffs that happened from Stargate SG-1 that were also other Stargate series. Now, mark, did you watch Stargate SG-1?

Marc Gregoire:

I've watched episodes Once again. It's another one I can never really get into.

Mike Gorday:

Wow, I could never really get into. Wow, wow, okay, mark, you have to move on out the door there.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, this is one of my favorites. This is number two on my list.

Marc Gregoire:

This is number two.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, no, this is not number two on my list, but this is like Number two. I have a couple that are coming up, but this is. I'm still waiting for the really good ones. Well, hang on, they're coming on up here All right so. Stargate was there. Moving next on the list down, moving to number one. Number one. I think we will not have any disagreement on it at all. The next one I have moving up here is Quantum Leap from 1989 to 1993. It's number one? No, it's not number one.

Marc Gregoire:

What number is that on your list?

Nathan Mumm:

This is number three. This is number three.

Marc Gregoire:

Yeah, you're missing some. Well, hang on. This is number three. Yeah, you're missing some. Hang on.

Nathan Mumm:

This is number three this is what we got. Quantum Leap Scott Bakula goes.

Marc Gregoire:

Well, that was phenomenal. I mean, that's one of my two all times.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, so you're two all times.

Marc Gregoire:

That's half of my two.

Nathan Mumm:

all times it's half, your all Okay. So you watched Quantum Leap, right, mike? Yep, okay, and you like Quantum Leap, was that it?

Mike Gorday:

was pretty good yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

It's pretty good.

Mike Gorday:

I don't think it's number one yet.

Nathan Mumm:

It's old. It is old Now. They did a reboot of it on NBC for two seasons and it was okay, but it ended with a cliffhanger that never finished, and so I'm really kind of disappointed. I think they thought they'd come back for their third season.

Mike Gorday:

They're going to come back and do a. What's that movie?

Nathan Mumm:

A reboot, one A reboot or something. All right, here we go. Number two I think there'll be some controversy, but that's okay. Battlestar Galactica 2004 to 2009.

Mike Gorday:

The remake.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, the remake was really good, but the original was also very good.

Mike Gorday:

The original was good, but it was very campy, it was very campy, it was very campy.

Nathan Mumm:

It got campy really fast it did. It started out really really good with the first season. Actually, the first season of the original series was really good too, and then it got into more Buck Rogers-like type of deal.

Mike Gorday:

That's the curse of 70s. Sci-fi was camp. You got that.

Marc Gregoire:

Yeah, your list is flawed.

Nathan Mumm:

Why is that?

Marc Gregoire:

Because you go to number one, which has to be Star Trek.

Nathan Mumm:

We already know that, but where is?

Marc Gregoire:

Buck Rogers, as you just mentioned, he didn't make my list.

Ody:

Where is?

Marc Gregoire:

Alf.

Nathan Mumm:

Where's Orville? Oh, oh, okay. Well, number one, here's number one. Nathan List sucks. Star Trek the Next Generation 1987 to 1994.

Marc Gregoire:

Oh, you limited it to one series, your list is really flat. The top five could have been all the different series. Oh the Star Trek, oh my gosh.

Nathan Mumm:

We all knew this was coming, so if you have different, opinions, you need to put them in the comments on YouTube, or you need to send us an email, just like Judy did, so you can tell me what your top five or your top ten list would be.

Marc Gregoire:

You're going to get all the Star Wars people.

Nathan Mumm:

What Star Wars series is going to be good? The Mandalorian has been okay, but it really dipped after the Boba Fett series.

Ody:

The Clone Wars is a really good series.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, the Clone Wars is really good. Yeah, andor was really good.

Nathan Mumm:

I put Lost on there as well. You put Lost as a sci-fi Lost, didn't even know.

Ody:

What do you mean? They had time travel I never know yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

Lost was Lost. Let me just tell you I have never gone back and watched Lost. I own it and I purchased it and I've never watched it. You know what I'm re-watching?

Mike Gorday:

Star Trek, the Next Generation. Everybody got disappointed with the big reveal at the end. That was a say what moment, what?

Nathan Mumm:

Let's talk about this cast Star Trek the Next Generation. You had LeVar Barton, you had Brent Spiner.

Mike Gorday:

You had Brent Spiner LeVar.

Nathan Mumm:

Burton Burton. You had Brent Spiner, you had Will Wheaton. I mean everybody likes a little Wesley, right?

Mike Gorday:

A little. Everybody hated Wesley Poor guy Jonathan Frakes.

Nathan Mumm:

He's actually made a pretty good comeback. Now Will Wheaton has.

Marc Gregoire:

Jonathan Frakes, patrick Stewart I love him. He's a great director too, too, for some of their the best episodes are usually directed by him.

Nathan Mumm:

Marina Sertz, and the list goes on and on. Remember, they even had the. A-team guy, dwight, was on there for a little bit. The A-Team Murdoch guy was on there, dwight, whatever his name is.

Marc Gregoire:

Yeah, what happened to Twilight Zone?

Nathan Mumm:

I didn't make the list. I'm not a big Twilight Zone. How?

Ody:

are you not going to include Stranger Things?

Mike Gorday:

It's not on the list.

Ody:

This is specifically like old people.

Mike Gorday:

Man, you're getting roasted dude, you are getting hooked. This is Nathan's list. Have you heard? Thank you. Thank you, Dr who.

Marc Gregoire:

You are so cooked buddy, did you do any research or fact checking today? These are all what.

Ody:

Did you do any research or fact checking today? What about the Walking Dead?

Nathan Mumm:

Walking Dead isn't sci-fi. What do you mean? It's zombie, zombies aren't sci-fi.

Ody:

So we're going specifically with Outer Space.

Marc Gregoire:

And then the one with why the most intense fan following it's not big but intense Firefly.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, where was Firefly? Oh, dude, you're in trouble dude, what about the 100? Nathan, you're cooked man. You're going to get a lot of backlash, come on.

Nathan Mumm:

Star Trek, the Next Generation, is number one. Number two is Battlestar Galactica. Number three is Quantum Leap. These are solid. Number four is Stargate SG-1. How can you not say that those?

Mike Gorday:

are in the top list.

Nathan Mumm:

No, those are good, but you know you're already rocked from the sun, but you're so limited.

Mike Gorday:

Your absence of certain ones. You've really stirred a pot on this.

Nathan Mumm:

I'm rewatching Sliders right now. It's actually really, really good I couldn't believe how good it is.

Marc Gregoire:

I like Sliders on the list. I love Sliders.

Speaker 1:

And that's right and now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings. Let's see what bubbles to the top all right.

Marc Gregoire:

Right, moving Nathan from the hot water to the brown water. Okay, so we are drinking Knob Creek single barrel select bourbon. This is the Seafood Fest 2024 pick from the Ballard Cut. It is 10 years old. Jim Bean Distillery Straight bourbon, 120 proof Goes for about $70.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, I am going to give it a thumbs up. I like it. Thumbs up for me, you like it too?

Mike Gorday:

Yeah it's really good.

Nathan Mumm:

So this is from your little bar that you hang out in the Ballard area. Is this from that guy? Yep.

Marc Gregoire:

He does a pretty good job. Probably the best whiskey bar in the Seattle area Is it. Now, is it the best whiskey?

Mike Gorday:

bar in the Pacific Northwest. Yes, For me it is. I've been to most of them. I don't want to say all of them.

Marc Gregoire:

It's my top one.

Mike Gorday:

How many of them are reconstituted speakeasies?

Marc Gregoire:

One, two, two that I'm aware of, probably a few others, that's cool.

Nathan Mumm:

We want to thank our listeners for joining the program. Listeners, we want to hear from you. I want to hear your top five list of sci-fi shows.

Mike Gorday:

If you disagree with me make sure you put it in there. Roast them dude.

Nathan Mumm:

Roast them Send it to press at techtimeradiocom or put those comments in the YouTube video so I can take a look at them. And You're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong. All right, well, we want to tell everybody. Thank you so much for listening. That's right. Remember, the science of tomorrow starts with the technology of today. See all you guys next week Later. Bye-bye.

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