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EP 238: This is an Unplugged Episode: DeepSeek Challenging AI Titans: DeepSeek's Rise, Tesla's Ambitions, and The Future of Tech and U.S. President Donald Trump To Rename "The Gulf of Mexico" | Air Date: 2/4 - 2/10/2025

Nathan Mumm Season 7 Episode 238

Can a Chinese startup really challenge the AI giants with minimal hardware? Join me, Nathan Mumm, in a special unplugged episode of Tech Time Radio as we explore the fascinating claims of DeepSeek, a Chinese AI newcomer stirring up debates about China's potential in the global AI arena. With major players like Microsoft, Google, and the White House's AI czar, David Sachs, paying close attention, we delve into the ethical implications of DeepSeek's tactics and the broader impacts on the AI market. Plus, we'll take a nostalgic stroll through Facebook's early days, reflecting on its meteoric rise to social media dominance—all while savoring our trademark mix of tech talk and whiskey.

How about a self-driving car service in Texas by 2025? We turn our attention to Tesla's ambitious plans to launch autonomous vehicles in Austin, despite the challenges posed by recent incidents in the field. We'll discuss the potential shift from traditional rideshare models to AI-driven transportation, and tackle the unexpected diplomatic tensions sparked by a controversial move by former U.S. President Donald Trump to rename the Gulf of Mexico. From the future of transportation to geopolitical wrangles, this episode covers a wide array of intriguing topics that demand your attention.

Ever wondered about the potential of wearable biosensors? Caltech engineers might have the answer, with groundbreaking advancements promising continuous, non-invasive health monitoring. As we highlight these technological wonders, we'll also reflect on the growth of Tech Time Radio, celebrating our journey from the pandemic's early days to our recent studio move. We share our passion for technology and whiskey, introduce key team members like our whiskey guru Mark Gregoire and gadgets expert Gwen Way, and reveal exciting future plans, including a potential road trip to CES 2026. Join us for a blend of humor, expertise, and captivating stories that keeps our loyal audience coming back for more.

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Nathan Mumm:

Welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm, the show that makes you go. Technology news of the week Show for the everyday person, talking about technology, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mumm, your host and technologist, with over 30 years of technology expertise. Today we're airing an unplugged episode. This is an episode without the crew. Odie, mike and Mark would all love to be here today, but they are at home. See, we are moving our studios to a new location and, with this break, we'll let everybody have a little bit of time off. And we did get everything working, so I decided to jump on in here and create an unplugged episode. Next week, though, everybody will be back the full crew, including our gadgets and gear, gal Gwenway so make sure you come back and enjoy the episode in its standard format. Now, of course, we're live streaming our show on four of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, twitch TV, facebook and LinkedIn. We encourage you to visit us online at techtimeradiocom and become a Patreon supporter at patreoncom.

Nathan Mumm:

Forward slash techtimeradio this week's radio. We're going to be exploring some of the top stories, diving a bit more into this deep big fake which is known as DeepSeek, from China, the new touted AI that runs on just four hamster wheels and a Pentium processor from the 90s. Now, honestly, we're going to look at the overhyped AI that has made the markets fall, with nothing behind it other than smoke and mirrors. But that's not all. We're going to take a look at some chat records that were compromised. We'll look back at the birth of Facebook and, of course, you can't forget our ongoing concerns about data privacy and security.

Nathan Mumm:

Now, of course, our standard features, including Mike's mesmerizing moment. He's not here today, so we're going to kind of pass that over. We will do our technology fail of the week and, of course, a Nathan Nugget, and then we're going to also have our two truths and a lie. We're going to be reading some of the latest headlines and seeing if you can pick out which one is true and which one is false. This should be a great time. I haven't done this for over about a year and a half. We are really excited to have moved our studio into a new location. We've been working on bringing our show to you more than just weekly, so we're going to be doing a bunch of new stuff. We do have all the same cast of characters Mike, mark and Odie so I'll be excited about that. We're keeping everybody as we're moving on and hopefully we've got bigger and better things to do. But now the most important stories of course have to be our top stories of the week.

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Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, our top tech stories start with story number one. Is DeepSeek, the holy grail of AI, or can China be the new leader in technology and the AI front? Well, we still go to our buddy, corinne Westland, with more on this story.

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DeepSeek challenged America's dominant position in AI last week, when news got out that a Chinese startup could match the best chat GPT model by using software instead of the high-end hardware unavailable to AI firms in China. Deepseek All right.

Nathan Mumm:

So does stealing OpenAI's 3.5 code really count as a new technology? Deepseek R1 is now live and open source, rivaling OpenAI's Model O1, available on WebApp and API. Now the problem is, though, if you're trying to sign up for DeepSeek right now, there's an error due to the large scale of malicious attacks on DeepSeek services, or can we say, maybe those Pentium processors aren't running up to the speed that are actually capable of producing ai right now. If you try to go online and you try to register, it'll say that you are not able to register or sign up. They'll come back to you with a thank you for your understanding and support and they'll tell you to please wait and try again at a later time.

Nathan Mumm:

Now OpenAI claims it has evidence that the Chinese AI startup DeepSeek utilizes proprietary models to train their open source model, potentially breaching the company's terms of service. Now it's interesting because we're going to see what happens here. Microsoft jumps into here, and there were some issues that were going on last year and around August September timeframe, and it probably had to do specifically with deep seek, so we'll get more into that as we go and talk about this. Now. These findings revolve around the method known as distillation, so that's where developers leverage outputs from larger AI models to train smaller ones. Well, this practice is standard and there's tons of AI development firms out there within the United States and across the globe. So this is not a America versus China issue here. But the problem arises when you extract it from the platform to develop your own model for your own use.

Nathan Mumm:

Now, deepseek's R1 reasoning model has gardened significant attention in the tech sector for delivering comparable results to the top US models at astonishingly low cost. Now these are claimed low cost. We don't know if these are actually backed with any facts. And again, I'm not on a fact finding mission because I kind of do like some of the technology from China, specifically my favorite little app, tiktok. So it's not that I'm here to bash anything that's going on with China, but I do think when you start copying, somebody start doing it at low cost. This kind of reminds me of the high quality models versus, maybe, a product that you can find on Teemu, which would be a little bit lesser of quality. So you have to actually take into effect what happens when people actually did this.

Nathan Mumm:

Now we're going to take a look here a little bit more as we go down here on just why OpenAI and companies like Google are also jumping into this, to say that there's some significant issues with this low cost. Now the company claims that it invested a merely $5.6 million in development, a small fraction compared to the typical expenditures of companies like OpenAI and Google. The app recently and even Musk for thinking of this, if you take a look at all the time and effort he spent probably just $5.6 million on the hardware from NVIDIA that he diverted from Tesla to go and actually be used for his Grok AI, which is kind of pretty junky to begin with, but this app kind of now has reached the top spot in the Apple App Store. Deep Seek's R1 is to be considered one of the trending apps. Now, not that we need to have all of the accusations be backed up, but our new White House AI czar, david Sachs and he's an okay guy, so technology-wise, I think he's pretty firm on what he does. He was candidly stated saying that there's substantial evidence that what DeepSeek did is distill knowledge from OpenAI models, and I don't think OpenAI is very pleased about it. It was quote-unquote what he said on Fox News regarding OpenAI's accusation.

Nathan Mumm:

Now the ongoing controversy has already impacted the market, with NVIDIA experiencing a 17% drop shares last week, a recent record $589 billion market value. Now it's probably overrated and investors are questioning the necessity of high powered AI hardware investments when companies can achieve similar outcomes with fewer resources. I'd say that the fewer resources is has not been substantially backed up yet to be a model that can actually be used and worked with. Now, open AI and Microsoft investigated and suspended accounts in August due to suspected terms of service violations and now believe these accounts were connected to DeepSeek. However, both companies have reframed from disclosing specific details regarding their evidence, so they're kind of backing their evidence up, saying that there were some issues here that make sense to why they had to actually alter accounts that were using technology.

Nathan Mumm:

Although the market faced a crash last Monday we talked about, hardware will play a significant role in the ongoing US-China AI conflict and there'll be increased focus on software optimization concept. Deepseek's technology might not have a direct advantage for anybody else, but Apple could be partnering in on this, which is one of the few companies relatively untouched by the crash. I suspect that Apple could apply partnering in on this, which is one of the few companies relatively untouched by the crash. I suspect that Apple could apply some of DeepSeek's ideas to enhance its AI models, aiming to improve Apple intelligence on the iPhone with iOS 19 and future updates. My point is not that Apple should embed DeepSeek into the iPhone, similar to how ChatGPT and other chatbot services are being integrated, but I think their approach to have some clear software processes in place could help actually Apple choosing to integrate with DeepSeek into some of its Apple devices in China. Now Apple struggles in the China market, a crucial market where iPhone sales continue to decline market a crucial market where iPhone sales continue to decline. If they could actually jump into some of the deep seek AI into its iOS, I think it could actually probably leverage that to become a more dominant player in the China area. And it does seem that Apple intelligence is impressed with the information that they have received from both chat, gpt and Gemini features from Google and including on the Pixel and Android devices that it's still looking to come up from its infancy stages to take a look at what can be happening with DeepSeek.

Nathan Mumm:

So let's talk about what DeepSeek is. All right. Deepseek is processes that have been talked about. We don't have all of the full information exactly what's going on, because people haven't dived in and been there. They are getting tons of press release and information that has been passed out, and the app does seem to work pretty good. The problem is, though, it's nothing newer than what you would have gotten that I've seen on anything besides the AI models that OpenAI has for ChatGPT 3.5, which is a pretty outdated large language model. A large language model is the main data set that you use to have your AI create the responses and come up with this logic and algorithms to decipher what you're asking it to do.

Nathan Mumm:

So, as much as that may be great, that DeepSeq took an older technology, an older large language model was able to condense it into probably a much more profitable environment, is standard in almost every technology we have. Look at your telephones that we had back in the 80s and 90s, if you were around that time. Those telephones had huge circuit boards, information in there, and that was just to press ones and zeros and nines and digit numbers to receive a code so you could actually transmit that information to connect with another connecting device, to actually transfer a voice conversation. Now what would you have today? A little microchip that sits in a phone, and my phone itself is a supercomputer compared to what we had just 10 years ago. It doesn't mean that I had to replace the technology with newer technology for the fact that it needed to be done. But what happens is is as technology evolves, you can do faster and faster and quicker items without having to have that big circuitry that you had to have before. But that doesn't do anything of what happened on AT&T and Bell when they had to actually do the research into the technology of how to condense these items. So taking a software platform after someone has spent years and years developing a hardware platform to come up with what is available is kind of a normal process.

Nathan Mumm:

So I don't know why people are going on this huge rampage for DeepSeek and that this is the next new app that's going to take over the world. It may be the next cheap app that you can get. That's probably five or six years dated. Again, if you don't have a problem with outdated information or older information, then you know what DeepSeek is going to be there for you at probably one-eighth of the price that you can pay for OpenAI or other devices. But for me and for, hopefully, my clientele, we're going to want to stick with something that we know is cutting edge, and for that I am still a big component of OpenAI, and ChatGPT is my platform, including Microsoft Bing.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, that's a little bit. Welcome to the kind of off the rails segments. We go a little bit longer on. These technologies probably get a little bit more deeper. So I apologize for any new listeners that may be listening to our unplugged episode. This is what you get when you get, once every two or three years, an unplugged episode. You get a lot more technology. Talk from Nathan.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, let's go on to story number two. Story number two Tesla is set to introduce a self-driving car service in Texas this June. According to Elon Musk, the rollout will initialize the Model Y and Model 3 vehicles, with the cyber cab expected to debut in 2027. All right, so we've been talking about Waymo. I'm sure everybody's seen the video for the Waymo that was out there, the car that kept on going around circles and circles as the guy was trying to go to the airport and leave. Pretty sensational little video. The guy calls up customer services. I say I need help. But Musk, you know he's got to be in the news. If it's not today, it's got to be tomorrow, and if it's not tomorrow, it's got to be tomorrow and if it's not tomorrow it's the next day. So he decided that he's going to be rolling out, of course, his own cyber cab solution in 2027.

Nathan Mumm:

Now musk indicated that by june unsupervised teslas great kind of like unsupervised kids would be operating in austin, although the deployment will be gradual. So everybody in aust, when it comes July 4th, be careful out there, because you can have all these unsupervised Teslas Hopefully they don't run in circles and that everything is working well, but they're going to be. Deployment will be gradually, says. Last year he had mentioned to investors at target launch in 2025 for the self-driving service in both California and Texas, and it appears that they're on track. During the fourth quarter. Earning calls must confirm that Austin would be the test market with self-driving capabilities expected to launch as early as June of 2025. Quote-unquote. We're confident that we will begin unsupervised, fully autonomous driving in Austin and June must stated. Our Fremont factory already has Teslas operating fully autonomously with no one inside and we plan to implement that on our Texas facility soon. Tesla did not respond to questions or comments.

Nathan Mumm:

Reports about Tesla collaborating with Austin for relegatory approval first emerged in December through emails obtained by Bloomberg, although that had not been finalized. Austin is the launch site at the time, so either Musk's got that taken care of or he's kind of just hoping that that's going to happen soon. Musk shared limited specifics, but noted that there are thousands of cars quote unquote operating around the Fremont factory fully autonomous. Yeah, the company is ready to advance its unsupervised full self-driving technology to many us regions by year end, likely starting with california and texas. Initially, they were expected for cybercab to be used at that time, but it's gonna have to wait until 2027. Tesla rely on the model y and Model 3. In summary, 2025 is a critical year for Tesla, musk remarked, calling it potential for the company's most significant year ever.

Nathan Mumm:

Despite the ambitious plans, musk emphasized the importance of a cautious approach to the rollout. We intend to start gradually ensuring everything is safe for the general public and passengers first, he expressed. Now Tesla's cautious stance comes from the light of challenges faced by self-driving taxi services recently, Through. Statistics indicated self-driving vehicles are generally safer than human-operated. There's still been some notable incidents California halted cruises, driverless cars in 2023 due to safety issues in the Waymo fist scrutiny. 2023 due to safety issues in the Waymo fist scrutiny. And 2024 with two autonomous cars collided with a tow truck twice in one day.

Nathan Mumm:

Musk explained that Tesla's AI will operate differently than the most autonomous systems, but not rely on high precision local maps. Instead, it will utilize AI to analyze surroundings and make real-time decisions. Austin will act as a testing ground to ensure the vehicles drive effectively before expanding to other regions, which, with a broader launch anticipated soon after, austin, is going well, all right. So what does people think about that? So we got Elon Musk out here. He's really busy now working at the White House occasionally when he's allowed in there, and then all of a sudden now he's going to have his autonomous AI cars.

Nathan Mumm:

Now I got some hope for this. You know, I think Austin is an interesting area to be used as a testing ground. I don't know if that would be my first choice, for this will be interested in is that I do think in the next five or six years, we are going to have a whole service slew of autonomous AI driven cars. So when you need to go to that local airport, there's not going to be the Uber driver, it's going to be the Uber version two, where you get picked up, someone comes on it there autonomously, you can throw your bags in there and boom, you drive to the airport. I just don't know in my local traffic how well that will work. So that ai better be on top of things. Because if you're not willing to take a little bit of a risk here on i-5 to get into seattle past the sea tack area to go on our major international airport, then uh, you're going to be waiting for hours and hours, and hours.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, well, moving on, let's take a look at story number three. This is our last story. This comes to me with a little bit of a sigh and a little bit of grin. At the same time, mexico requests Google Maps to retain the name the Gulf of Mexico. So I'm sure everybody's heard by now that our new president has wanted to rename the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of Mexico. So I'm sure everybody's heard by now that our new president has wanted to rename the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America. But Mexico's president, claudia Shinboms, has sent a letter to Google urging the company to reconsider its decision that it did to rename the Gulf of Mexico.

Nathan Mumm:

In the first week in the office, us President Donald Trump signed an executive order to mandate that the body of water bordering the US, cuba and Mexico be referred to now as the Gulf of America. The new name will only be visible to users in the US, so he actually got this changed. As a president, when you decide to create an executive order and name stuff, I guess if you're a software company in that country, you're probably going to want to do that also. Now it will remain globally the Gulf of Mexico, to maintain its historical name, which has been used for centuries. However, mexico contends that the US cannot legally alter the Gulf's name, since the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea stipulates that the country's sovereign territory extends only 12 nautical miles from its coastline.

Nathan Mumm:

Google has yet to respond to requests for comments. On Monday, though, however, the company stated that we have a long-lasting practice of applying name changes when they're updated in official government sources. It has also revert Mount Denali to Mount McKinley in the US, adhering to another one of Trump's orders. When official names differ between countries, map users will see their respective local name. That has been added, claims the Gulf of America is being used by the staff within the White House. Trump issued the executive order to rename it from the Gulf of Mexico and for the entire world it's still known as the Gulf of Mexico, but if you're in the United States, you can now take a look at that on Google Maps. Apple Maps and Bing Maps have not updated at this time. Well, that ends our top technology stories of the week. Moving on, we have two truths and a lie. You're listening to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. See you after this commercial break.

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Nathan Mumm:

Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. Our weekly show covers the top technology subjects without any political agenda. We verify the facts and we deal with the sense of humor in less than 60 minutes. Of course, a little whiskey on our side Today. Mark Gregoire, our whiskey connoisseur, is not here, so you know what? I am going to be sipping a little bit of Jack Daniels just a standard Jack Daniels during the show itself, as a tradition that I started when I first did Tech Time Radio as my first whiskey selection. But he will be back next week and I believe we are going to be doing our top three tastings that we have that we've been starting for the beginning of the year. So we have a calendar area that we're going through. Each first week of the month we take a look at some top whiskey. So make sure you would join us there.

Nathan Mumm:

Now as we return, I'm going to go through three stories. I'm going to read you the headlines and brief information of this, and two of these are going to be truthful and one is going to be a lie. Do you know which one it is? And now we have two truths and a lie. All right, our two truths and a lie. How we do this is normally we have two or three other people in the studio I normally compete with compete with Mike and Mark and I kind of go through and I read them subjects that are very interesting in the top news technology and they say if it's actually true or false and they're trying to see how I read them and what am I stuttering on and what am I doing here and what am I doing there. But we're going to take a couple of stories here. I'm going to give the headlines from them. You're going to kind of see if that's actually what's going on or is not going on, and we're going to have you actually play with it at home. Now these are all being taken from top websites, so these are stories that are actually standard geek areas that are there. So number one we're going to be talking about story number one here.

Nathan Mumm:

Can you see uncensored versions of DeepSeek through Perplexity? All right, so if you've been considering trying DeepSeek, the host new AI app from China, but putting off concerns about privacy and censorship, you'll be interested to know there's a new tweaked version of DeepSeek R1 model available inside Perplexity censorship. You'll be interested to know there's a new tweaked version of DeepSeek R1 model available inside Perplexity. Perlexity is a long-giving user choice of in-house and third-party AIs for answering prompts. The DeepSeek R1 is the latest technology we talked about. Perplexity co-founder Arvind Servin has promised the censorship guardrails have been taken off. So, yes, you can ask about Tian Tinaman Square and anything associated that you wanted within the United States or out. Now DeepSeek has an option inside of Perplexity that can be used today.

Nathan Mumm:

So is that a story that is true or false? Has somebody input DeepSeek AI into their app itself? All right, okay, microsoft 365 is raising prices and ditching its free VPN. Story number two All right, is this true or false? Paying more and getting seamlessly standard operating procedures these days? Certainly that's what Microsoft 365, the fancy name for Microsoft Office, users have been about to experience. The service includes VPN is being dropped as of February 28th, according to a support note on the Microsoft site. The company routinely evaluates the uses of effectiveness for their features and decided VPN is no longer a necessary part of the Microsoft 365 service. As VPNs go, it was only okay. The truth is, microsoft VPN came with 50 gigabyte monthly data limits didn't allow you to trick your browser into thinking you were else place in the world. So it was a free VPN that came with your service and it's now going to be dropped. But if you want to continue with a 365 subscription price hike, you can pay $3 more per month roughly a 43% increase to get additional services that could still be used with any other VPN service. All right, and story number three Apple Music has an amazing deal for new users right now.

Nathan Mumm:

There's a lot of music streaming services to choose from right now. Many of them subscribe to Spotify or Apple Music, or myself I use Amazon Music Service. It's about a hundred bucks a year, but I find it to be pretty entertaining, as most of the songs and stations I want. But if you still are like others, you use YouTube Music, amazon Music or Tidal. Those are all pros and cons, but the price is the most important fact to you. It's a good time to check out Apple's offering. Apple Music will usually cost $10.99 for individual users, $16.99 for family and $5.99 for students, $16.99 for family and $5.99 for students. But you are now eligible for new subscribers only six months of Apple Music for $1.99. That's not $1. That's $1.99 less than a coffee. Just think of the total available for you. All right, so those are the three stories. So I got Apple Music. Of course, only has a new subscriber deal for $199 as a story that was available.

Nathan Mumm:

There we go back to the Microsoft 365 is raising its prices and ditching to its free VPN service. And story number one was regarding the integration of DeepSeek into a third-party app. So if you're playing at home and you guessed that number one DeepSeek is being pushed into a third-party app, that would be a truth If you're looking for story number two. Story number two was regarding Microsoft 365 raising its prices and ditching its free VPN. That is true also. And so story number three, the Apple services that are going to be coming on out are going to be reduced for the first six months, but it's going to be at $299 instead of the $199 price tag. I stated and that's the way we play Two Truths in a Lie. I appreciate you for playing that we're going to head right out to our second commercial break. When we come on back, we're going to be talking about our this Week in Technology, so now would be a great time to enjoy a little whiskey on the side, as I'm going to be doing so during the break. We'll see you after this.

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That's it. It's that simple. Welcome back to TechTime with your host, nathan Mumm. Hopefully you're enjoying this unique episode. This is our Unplugged series, so this is a little bit different. We don't have Mike, odie or Mark in the studio today. It's just myself talking on the microphone, with a little bit of music here and there that will be added in and we'll see how things go. Our regular scheduled programming will be back next week, so take a look at it. We will have gadgets and gear, gal Gwen way on the show. Following that, we have Nick Espinosa coming on up and we have tons of mystery guests that are going to be a part of our show also. So we're pretty excited about that.

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This show is being recorded. Just myself. Old-fashioned back when you have one mic and you kind of talk into it and then you do a little bit of editing here and there afterwards. But we're excited to be talking about technology. I'm excited to be here and we can't wait to have our new studio in place, ready to go. So now you know what we're going to take a look at. We're going to take a look at this week in technology and now let's look back at this week in technology all right, we're going to the way back machine.

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we're going. February 4th 2024 facebook is born. Mark Zuckerberg launches the Facebook, which later becomes Facebook. The world changes forever. The story of Facebook traces its transformation from a college networking platform to a worldwide social media giant. Now, mark Zuckerberg, the co-founder of Facebook, began this journey in his Harvard dorm room in November 2005.

Nathan Mumm:

In 2003, while studying at Harvard University, he launched a website named FaceMash. The site was akin to hot or not, using images from online Facebooks and inviting users to select the hotter person. Although Zuckerberg faced expulsion for this project, the charge were ultimately dropped. A quote-unquote Facebook is a directory of students showcasing their photos and personal details. Now, in January of 2004, zuckerberg created a new site called the Facebook, asserting the technology required to develop a centralized site that was readily available. The advantages were numerous. He partnered with a fellow student, edward Severin, and they committed $1,000 each to the project. On February 4, 2004, zuckerberg officially launched quote-unquote the Facebook.

Nathan Mumm:

At first, access was limited to Harvard College students. At first, access was limited to Harvard College students. To support the site's expansion, though, dustin Muscoff, andrew McCollum and Chris Huges joined Zuckerberg. The platform eventually opened up to various universities across the US and Canada. In 2004, sean Parker, the co-founder of Napster, took on the role of the company president, and Facebook moved its headquarters to Palo Alto, california. In 2005, the company dropped the from the name, obtaining the domain night to Facebookcom. Well, that was this week in technology. If you ever wanted to watch some Tech Time history, with over 220 weekly broadcasts spanning our four plus years of video, podcast and blog information, you can visit us at techtimeradiocom to watch our older shows. We're going to take a commercial break. When we return, though, we're going to have our Mark's Mumble Whiskey Review, which is really going to be Nathan talking about his whiskey. We'll see you after the break.

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The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's Whiskey Mumble.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, well, this is not Mark's Whiskey Mumble. All right, well, this is not Mark's Whiskey Mumble. This is Nathan talking about what he is drinking. He is drinking a simple Jack Daniels distilled from the Jack Daniel Company from Tennessee Whiskey produced by the Jack Daniel Distillery in Lunchburg, tennessee, which is owned by the Brown Forman Corporation since 1956. Packaged in square bottles, jack Daniel's Black Label Tennessee whiskey sold 12.9 million liters in 2017. Other brands variations such as Tennessee Honey, tennessee Apple Gentleman Jack and Tennessee Fire are ready to drink products that also include more than 16.1 million in sales during that same time.

Nathan Mumm:

Now, jack Daniels' brand official website suggests that its founder, jasper Newton Jack Daniels, was born in 1850. His tombstone bears that date, but says the exact birth date is unknown. The company's website says that it's customary to celebrate his birthday in September. According to Tennessee State Library website, in 2013, records list his birth date as September 5th, 1846. So, jack Daniels very traditional. You'll see this anywhere. Little Jack Daniels and Coke goes really well. Little Jack Daniels and lemonade goes really well. This was kind of the standard that I use, produced now with the lower end green label at 80 proof is what I enjoy most of the time, but I do get the black label, which is 90 proof. So you know what? Whiskey connoisseurs that are listening to today's show you're going to be very disappointed to know that Nathan, your radio host, enjoys just a simple Jack Daniels, all right. Well, you know what? Nothing like having a little whiskey pairing with technology, right, and we always make a comparison. So I'm going to compare this show to like puppets in the Muppet Show. You can't have the.

Nathan Mumm:

Muppet Show without Kermit the Frog or Fozzie Bear some of the greatest puppets and puppeteers known for their technology. But now let's prepare for our technology fail of the week, brought to you by Elite Executive Services technology experts to help you out of a technology fail. We are out of time. Congratulations, you're a failure. Oh I failed.

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Nathan Mumm:

Yes, All right, we're going to be talking. Our technology fail. Well, we're going right over to DeepSeek. This episode is DeepSeek centric. So DeepSeek exposes a database with over 1 million chat records. So this is what happens when you are a software company that is borrowing or stealing other people's information. When you go and steal it, you need to make sure on the open source that if you're going to use information, you secure it. But you know what? Deepseek, the Chinese AI startup, may be really good for coming up with AI models, but their security systems are flawed.

Nathan Mumm:

Now DeepSeek, the China AI startup known for DeepSeek R1LM model, is publicly exposed to database containing sensitive user and operational information. The unsecured ClickHouse instance reported held over a million log entries containing user chat histories in plain text form, API keys, backend details and operational metadata. Wizz Research discovered this exposure during the security assessment of DeepSeq's external infrastructure exposure. During the security assessment of DeepSeek's external infrastructure, the security firm found two publicly accessible database instances authorized to call back DeepSeek port 900 and DeepSeek port 900 for DeepSeekcom that allowed arbitrary SQL queries via the web interface without requiring authentication to go into their backend models. So if you're going to be using DeepSeek, the Chinese AI startup company understand that anything that you may do chat-wise, any queries you may put in, all that information could be available for other hackers to take a look and see what's your username, account back information details, API keys, and know everything you're searching on.

Nathan Mumm:

Wouldn't that be great if OpenAI decided to release all of their search algorithms that people have put into their AI searches and decided to publicly expose those for each user's name and information? Probably not. That's why you should probably stick with an AI service that is in the United States. All right, we're going to head out to our last commercial break. When we return, we have a Nathan Nuggets and we're going to have our pick of the day, which you guys already heard about, so don't worry about that. But if you do have some whiskey or a pop or a soda or anything you'd like to raise a glass to, why don't you do that while you listen to this commercial break? We'll see you after this.

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Nathan Mumm:

Welcome back to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm, the week at our technology show that talks about current technology in a simple format without having to geek out. I'm your host, nathan Mumm, and we are on the Nathan Mumm special episode. We call this Tech Time Radio Unplugged. It is just myself here. We're talking about different technologies. All my main staff have this week off, so hopefully they're enjoying the time off and I'm enjoying a little bit of time putting the stories together.

Nathan Mumm:

One of the big things that I really enjoy about doing the radio show is all the research and information that I get to do for the shows each week. So I love learning about new technology and I used to do this many hours and many times across different platforms and different jobs that I've had within the United States. And what I really enjoy is spending the time to do the research of stories that break on the headlines and actually see if that information is valid or if it's not valid or what information is important for the industry, and then try to get some of those sub stories that are a little bit smaller out there that people might not hear about, so we can talk about them instead of the attention grabbing areas. We're going to do our Nathan nugget here and I'm going to be talking a little bit kind of reminiscing about what we have coming up for this year's show and technology item here, and we're going to be doing a little bit of reminiscing about how the show gets made. So let's get ready for our Nathan nugget.

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This is your nugget of the week.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. This Nathan nugget comes to us from the California Institute of Technology. Printable molecules. Selective nanoparticles enable mass production of wearable biosensors, so this is something that has come across just recently. It's pretty interesting in what Caltech engineers have developed. They developed a technique for inkjet printing arrays and special nanoparticles that enable a mass production of a long-lasting wearable sweat sensor. The sensors could be used to monitor a variety of biomarkers, such as vitamins, hormones, medications, in real time, providing patients and their physicians with the ability to continually flow through changes of levels of the molecules.

Nathan Mumm:

Wearable biosensors that incorporate the new nanoparticles have been successfully used to monitor metabolite in patients suffering from long COVID, as the levels of the chemotherapy drugs in cancer patients at the City of Hope in California have also used the same technology. These are just two examples of what is possible, says Wiege, the professor of medical engineering in the Andrew and Peggy Department of Medical Engineering at Caltech. There are many chronic conditions, and biomarkers and sensors now give us the possibility to monitor continuously and non-evasively the information. Importantly in this new study is the research combines specially formatted polymers and nanoparticle cores made of nickel hydrate, and they can be iodized and reduced under applied electrical voltage in contact with human sweat and the body then takes these fluids to come on out and give a NAICF core report on the vitamins themselves. So great news is coming on out. Just think that in the future you're going to be able to have printable nanoparticles-enabled producting. So think of your HP printer being able to print out nanoparticles like ink, creating an inexpensive way to see how you're doing and to see what's going on. I can see athletes using this. I can see many other people using this, but some cool breaking technology news.

Nathan Mumm:

So let's talk a little bit. We have some time here. I got about 10 minutes and so we're going to wrap up the show here with kind of some thoughts of just what we're going to be looking for coming up this year on Tech Time Radio and some of the reasons on why we actually do Tech Time itself. So this is a little bit of a Nathan Nugget and a little bit of kind of an intro into what we have going on over our four plus years and what we're looking to do in the next four plus years. So welcome everybody. If this is your first show, this is going to be a unique show, so please either listen to the repeat from last week our CES best of the best from CES and kind of the weirdest of the weird, or listen to our next week show and we have Gwen way on our standard show with gadgets and gear and everybody back in the studio. But I haven't had a time to really pause with the show has been going on for four plus years and really kind of communicate and talk about why we created the show, what's behind the show, why we do the show, what's behind the show, why we do the show itself.

Nathan Mumm:

As we talked about a little bit before we got into the Nathan Nugget, this show is really based upon the research and technology of myself and what I would consider a Saturday morning sit down with a newspaper and coffee. I kind of like to sit down with an energy drink, a Rockstar or a Monster or something with a lot of caffeine. And then I'll do is I'll just kind of breeze through and take a look at technology articles from the BBC, from Wired Magazine, tons of different locations that I have. I have about 132 different little websites that I have taken off information from and what I'll do is I'll just go through and I'll pick a subject for the day or I'll just pick a whatever trending topic is. And then what I'll do is I'll kind of go through that and I'll kind of do some research and do some deep diving. So just to take a look here at my link I have the bbc news, cnet, digital trends in gadget gizmodo, how to geek the latest from tech, radar, life hacker, mashable, the new york techno times, technology pc world slash dot, tech crunch, the next web, the verge wired, yahoo technology and a bunch of other uh and the tech, a bunch of other technology folders that I subscribe to with articles that I go through and read pretty much on a weekly basis, uh, normally on a Saturday or a Sunday morning, and what I'll do is, uh, that when we decided to do the shows, uh, it was during COVID and there was not a whole lot of social interaction that was going on, and so me and Mr Gorday Mike Gorday decided to get together and kind of put together a show and we talk about technology and Mr Gorday at that time was a little bit more technology friendly. Now he's kind of anti-AI, as you guys will always hear. He's kind of our curmudgeon on the show itself and he doesn't like this or doesn't like this type of deal.

Nathan Mumm:

We started with an engineer at our radio station. His name was David and David was a pretty funny guy and didn't really know how technology worked very well, but he would try to run our board and most of the time it would work. And every once in a while it wouldn't work and we continued our show for quite a long time. We expanded Tech Time Radio into a two-hour show, which I'd really love to do again, but it's tough to get that much time in the recording studio with all of our staff. They all have very busy lives and they're all busy doing different things, so it's tough to get that area. We expanded to a bunch of our satellite stations that you're probably listening to Tech Time Radio now on, whether that's in the Bay Area, in Boston, in New York, in Florida, all of our substations which are a great part of our family, of our 35 million listeners. We thank them a lot for rebroadcasting our shows and putting it out there, and so we were having a great time. We expanded again to the two-hour show. Then we decided to move to a new studio. We wanted to kind of move up from the studio that we were at into a new studio in downtown Seattle, and that's when Odie became our producer for our show and has been a part of our show since.

Nathan Mumm:

Mark Gregoire and I go back a long time working at a company together Not Microsoft, not Vulcan, but another company that I worked at and so he was always kind of into whiskey and drinking and I told him I'd created a show and he said he should do one a little bit about whiskey, and I liked whiskey. He knew that I liked whiskey enough and I said, well, I just want to make sure I do something that doesn't run out. And let me just tell you we've been doing this show for four years and I think we're probably only a third of the way through all the whiskeys that we can get. I have new whiskeys that get sent to our show. I get new whiskeys that I pick up all the time. But I do enjoy the early days when I would actually go to a wines and more or a whiskey store in our local area and I go through and I pick out the cheapest whiskeys I can and see if any of them were any good and so kind of been known as the cheap whiskey drinker because of that sense.

Nathan Mumm:

Now we had Mark join as our whiskey connoisseur. He's a part of a bunch of whiskey clubs and we enjoy him being here. He's also a technologist as a side job, so all three of us put together most of the shows. Gwen Way you'll see as our gadgets and gear gal next week on the show. She's a producer with our show too. She's been a part of our long-term show and the idea was to create a show that did not come to you from the political right wing or the political left wing did not put politics into most of the information that they have. If I report something that Biden did or if I reported something that Trump did, it's just the information on the technology side of what's going on. So you're aware of that. We do have people, I believe, in our staff that are on both sides of who they would vote for, and so we try to keep this all very unpolitical, which does make our station a little bit in our programming a little bit more what I would say tougher to grasp into because we're not polarizing on one side or polarizing on the other side. So we do appreciate kind of keeping it neutral and talking about how technology applies to our life and what is going on with technology, our upcoming year.

Nathan Mumm:

This year we have a new studio, so we are going to be moving into producing a lot more content. We're going to be moving into producing a lot more content. We're going to be looking at producing content. That will be a lot of offline myself doing this in itself and then there'll be a lot of online stuff where there will be us doing our standard streams. We have moved into a newer studio that was all just rebuilt specifically for us to move into. The sound is fantastic. It's dead, so we can yell as much as we want and we're not going to hear anything of what's going on.

Nathan Mumm:

And what we plan to do is bring you continuing guests continuing and returning individuals such as Nick Espinosa and James Riddle. Guests continuing to returning individuals such as Nick Espinosa and James Riddle, and hopefully we get Phil Hennessey back here on our show coming up here soon and then we're going to bring in a bunch of new guests that will be talking about technology. We like that the new guests come. Some people really enjoy them. Sometimes not as much. Sometimes it's a little bit more difficult to work with, because when you have a new guest that's coming on in, they don't know our radio audience and normally they're trying to push something or sell something, so we always want to talk with them about their technology versus what they're trying to sell.

Nathan Mumm:

Upcoming, we're going to do a couple of crazy episodes, I expect, for 4th of July. I do know that we're going to now have the opportunity to take the show a lot more on the road, so that's something that we're going to look to do. We've done one remote location one time, but I do think that we will be doing now more remote locations. I do think such events like CES next year for 2026, you'll probably do a live show from down there in itself, or maybe two or three shows that we put in with people that will be coming on in and interviewing them for our show itself, and so there's a lot of great plans that we're planning to do. We're still planning on having some of the sense of humor Some of the whiskey stuff is not going away but we're trying to develop a more rounded show in itself that people can listen to. Now I do appreciate feedback that we get. We get some feedback not always positive and not always negative, kind of very neutral but we'd love for you guys to go on and visit us at techtimeradiocom and click on the webpage and go and decide to put a comment in one of our YouTube videos or go and take a look at a comment between something else that we talked about. We do have a talk back on our techtimeradiocom site that we would love for people to go to also, so we'd love for you guys to go and visit that and ask us a question and then we can actually do some of our technology expertise and trying to figure out what's going on.

Nathan Mumm:

This is the weekend leading up to the Super Bowl, so, as a Nathan nugget, this is a time where I always talk about some of the best times to go and buy TVs. If you're looking as a consumer level, right now, tvs the newest TVs that were just presented at CES may still be coming on out, probably normally quarter two and quarter three of this year, but all of the current Christmas specials or the Christmas high-end items that are there are now all on sale, so you can buy three $4,000 televisions for the Superbowl weekend that's coming on up, or I guess you're supposed to call it the, the super Sunday. You're not supposed to say Superbowl, but the Super Sunday show that's coming on up between Kansas City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles. We'll see if the three-peat happens, but now is the time to go out and buy a TV. Go down to your big box store. Find a TV that is there. Take a look at the items that are available there. Maybe go visit a electronics specialty store that's available. All of them are going to be having sales on. So this is the time if you're looking to get that great deal that you want to make sure you take a look at, because there's nothing better than that.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, when you hear this, you know what that means. And we're getting close to the end of our show. It means I got a minute 26 to talk about what else we have coming on up. I appreciate you joining the unplugged show. That was probably a little bit different. If this again, if you're first time listening to it, please do not judge us on this show. This show was done as a specialty show. This will not be what you normally get for our normal programming, but you know what. You'll be excited to see what we have next week with Mark, mike and Odi all back that are going to just be chomping at the bit. So we're about out of time.

Nathan Mumm:

We want to thank our listeners for joining the program. Listeners who want to hear from you again, go to techtimeradiocom and click on that. Be a caller or ask. Ask a question On any technology item in our TalkBack recording system. Try to find something that can stump me, stump Mr Gourdet or stump Mark. That would be fantastic. You can always stay connected by signing up for our newsletter and staying up to date on the latest technology trends For all of us at Tech Time. It was an honor to be on the show today to host this. Remember the science of tomorrow starts with the technology of the today. We'll see you next week. Bye-bye.

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