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EP 237: TechTime's Best of the Best from CES 2025. Privacy Concerns Surrounding Data Transfer to China • Netflix’s Shift in Storytelling, General Motors’ FTC Settlement. Finally Bizarre Inventions Featured at CES 2025 | Air Date: 1/21 - 1/27/2025

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Prepare to be fascinated and informed as we explore the intersection of technology, privacy, and human connection. Have you ever wondered if your data is truly safe in today's digital landscape? Join us as we unravel the complexities of data privacy, spotlighting the significant complaints filed by the advocacy group None of Your Business (NOYB) against tech giants like TikTok and WeChat over GDPR violations. We contemplate whether entrusting our personal information to domestic or foreign companies offers greater security, all while navigating the ever-evolving world of tech.

Our journey doesn't stop at privacy concerns. We bring you the latest and greatest from CES 2025, showcasing cutting-edge innovations like the ThinkPad Plus Gen 6, Lenovo's Legion GS handheld, and a biodegradable paper battery that promises sustainability without compromising efficiency. From groundbreaking gadgets to quirky educational initiatives like Nottingham College's telephobia course, we explore the cultural shifts that define our interactions with technology and each other. You'll hear personal stories that highlight generational differences in communication and the role of education in bridging these gaps.

Concluding with spirited discussions and lighter segments, we take a nostalgic trip back to the rise and fall of Java, and even spice things up with a whiskey tasting session featuring some bold flavors. Our show is not just about technology; it's about the human experiences that shape our engagement with it. Whether you're a tech enthusiast, a privacy advocate, or just someone looking for a fun and insightful listen, there's something here for everyone. Don't miss out on the fusion of tradition and innovation that promises to entertain and inform.

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Speaker 1:

Broadcasting across the nation, from the East Coast to the West, keeping you up to date on technology while enjoying a little whiskey on the side, with leading edge topics along with special guests to navigate technology in a segmented, stylized radio program. The information that will make you go mmmm. Pull up a seat, raise a glass with our hosts as we spend the next hour talking about technology for the common person. Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm.

Nathan Mumm:

Welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. The show that makes you go hmm. Technology news of the week the show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mumm, your host and technologist, with over 30 years of technology expertise. Our co-host, mike Rodea, is in studio. He's the award-winning author and is our human behavior expert. Now today, we're live streaming on our show on four of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, twitchtv, facebook and LinkedIn. We encourage you to visit us online at techtimeradiocom and becomea Patreon supporter at patreoncom. Forward slash tech time radio. Now. We're friends from different backgrounds, but we bring the best technology show possible weekly for our family, friends and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have Odie, our producer, at the control panel today. Welcome everyone. Let's start today's show.

Speaker 1:

Now on today's show.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. This week on Tech Time Radio, we'll be exploring some of the groundbreaking developments that are set to change the way we interact with technology. Ces 2025 has showcased some incredible inventions this year, and we'll be highlighting the best of the best, from the groundbreaking gadgets to the most unusual and quirky items that caught our eye. Now, of course, we're going to have our best of the best from CES ces, and then we're gonna have our crazy and unique items from ces, like it's kind of becoming my favorite subject. Are you okay there, mike? You got a little.

Mike Gorday:

You got a little frog in your throat today yeah okay, all right if I start hacking it, hack it up along. I'll uh step out of there?

Nathan Mumm:

no, no big deal, all right, okay. Well, now that's not all. We also have some new trends that are emerging in the entertainment industry that Mike will be talking about. We've got some changes that can impact how we consume media and stay entertained. Plus, we have discussion on a unique educational initiative that is making waves that will make you be relevant to more about what you think about technology. And, of course, you can't forget our standard show items, which includes Mike's mesmerizing moment, our technology fail of the week and a possible Nathan nugget. And, of course, our pick of the day whiskey tasting. And it seems Mark has gone a little rogue today. He decided to bring in three whiskeys, so he must have something. He's going to be here, but I can't wait to figure out what he has going for us.

Nathan Mumm:

He just wants to get us drunk. Is that what? It is all right, but now it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology.

Nathan Mumm:

Here are our top technology stories of the week all right, this is a non-profit privacy advocacy group I think we're going to need to hear about and talk about in the coming future here, but it's called none of your your Business, so they're known as NOYB. Now they have filed six complaints against TikTok, aliexpress, shintimu, wechat and Zami for unlawfully transferring European users' data to China and infringing upon the European Union's General Data Protection Regulation, yep. Let's go to Corinne Westland for more on this story.

Speaker 5:

The nonprofit privacy advocacy group None of your Business has filed complaints at data protection authorities in Greece, Italy, Belgium, the Netherlands and Austria on behalf of users in the same countries. In the documents, the nonprofit highlights that China collects citizen data aggressively and processes it without restrictions, which is against European Union's data protection law. According to the GDPR, data transfers outside the European space should only be allowed as exceptions, and proof that the data is strictly protected from unauthorized state or other access needs to be produced. Sounds like a sticky situation. Back to you guys in the studio.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, so let's talk about this. This is all up in the air, right? So, given that China is an authoritarian surveillance state, it is crystal clear that China doesn't offer the same level of data protection as the EU, right? That's what's stated in the nyb's data protection complaint. According to them, the chinese companies are violating chapter 5 of the gdpr, specifically article 44 with the general transfer principles, uh also article 46 with lack of safeguards, and 46 on the failure to conduct adequate impact assessment. So let's talk a little bit about this. Is this concerning to us that this privacy group has decided to set petitions in these countries, that China is taking the data and surveillancing the data? This kind of goes all the way back to the United States, also with the concerns with ByteDance and everything else that's going on what is your feeling about this?

Mike Gorday:

You're the Chinese rah-rah guy. What do you think?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, so Odie and I were having a discussion about this just before we went on the air, so I am so torn. Here's my idea If the United States has my data, do I feel more secure than if somebody across the pond feels for my data? And I say I don't feel as safe with the United States and Meta and all of their social media platforms having that data because we know that they do sell it to the government. Right? They sell that data that they it to the government. Right? They sell that data that they get to the united states.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, everything you do anymore online is being sold right yeah, it is.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, whether you're in a car, whether you're in here, yeah, everything is being sold.

Mike Gorday:

It feels like you're positive, especially when we talk about your favorite thing, tiktok. Yeah, is that? Uh, you know, chinese, the chinese government, they don't care, they're just going to take everybody's data and that's okay, because everybody else has my data already.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, okay. So what happens when a health care company gets compromised here in the United States?

Mike Gorday:

It's already happened.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, well, I think every single one of the major large corporations that do medical care have been compromised, so we just are okay with that and we're just like oh, I don't think anybody's okay with that, but we're in a we're in a place socially where we cannot be non-technological. Okay, we have to be online to do our jobs, to do our finances, to do almost everything, um, and that's the price that we pay, and that price is not big enough for most people that they're going to stop doing what they're doing. That's the only way. That's the only way this is going to stop is if we get offline.

Nathan Mumm:

That's correct. I mean you'd have to completely unplug right Cause, even cause, but you couldn't. You couldn't exist offline world now because if I go and I do medical uh information, I have to sign up for my charts right so I got to sign up for that otherwise they won't do anything.

Ody:

Yeah, if I want subscriptions if you want any of your data, that's right, unless you're a ludite and want to go out in the backwoods and live.

Mike Gorday:

Live a grizzly adams life you're not going to be able to get away from this stuff. So the the it comes down to are you okay with the us government having your data, or is it okay that china is obviously and they don't really care that anybody knows that they're taking your data?

Ody:

well, I wish it wasn't to that extreme. I wish you can still exist. You know, partially online and partially offline, yeah, you know, now there's no, there's no grace in the technology. Uh, like day-to-day life, you really have to be fully in or you don't understand it at all yeah, well, it doesn't matter, because ai is going to come along and replace you anyway.

Mike Gorday:

Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. So you know, I'm glad that there's an advocacy group that is out there that's looking at this data.

Mike Gorday:

I really doubt they have any power here, so I don't think they do either.

Nathan Mumm:

And my always it goes back to is the consumer ever going to get the money for their data? No, because if the consumer doesn't get it, and the lawyers get it, and this government authority gets it, and this person gets it, then really the consumers of this data that is being taken from is the people that don't I, I feel, I feel like, I feel like you think that you know, in all of human history the peasant class was the one that got all the benefits from folks.

Mike Gorday:

I guess that's not the case. That's not the case you're right.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, all right, let's see if story number two can brighten our day that that's your story there, mike um sure why not?

Mike Gorday:

because you know we, we love when people make really strange requests. Okay, so I think everybody knows, or everybody has heard, that executives on movies can really ruin a movie. Yeah, they can, right, right.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, it appears that Sometimes directors, but most of the time it's the studio.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, we hear that all the time is, but most of the time it's the studio or it's yeah, we hear that all the time is because they have a financial interest in the film, they get to make decisions about how the film is going to be shown or whatever. Well, it appears that Netflix is really going to try and ruin Netflix.

Ody:

Ok, because there is not already Respectfully? I don't know.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't know. I like some of the Netflix stuff still.

Mike Gorday:

So there's this sort of rule in writing. It's called show, don't tell.

Speaker 8:

Are you familiar with this? Have you heard of this?

Mike Gorday:

Yes, well, netflix executives are telling their writers not to do that anymore. They're telling their writers to have their characters give expository speeches about what they're doing, so they can.

Ody:

Like monologues.

Mike Gorday:

Yes, kind of like monologues, so that people who aren't paying that much attention will know what's going on in the film.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, if you're not paying that much attention to the film, isn't that?

Mike Gorday:

on you. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Okay, this is so dumb.

Ody:

They want people to still be entertained, even when they're not, because all I'm guilty of this, but I do this with my comfort. Shows shows that I've seen hundred times over that I don't need to be paying attention to the plot anymore yeah, yeah, so I want I.

Nathan Mumm:

We watch friends all the time so that that's they don't tell me what's going on

Ody:

though right, but hi I'm ross, I'm walking in the door yes, but that's something that again, like you just said, that's been on for ages. You know what's gonna happen now. The new stuff that's on netflix wants you to watch. Other stuff is what I'm assuming, okay yeah, they.

Mike Gorday:

They want you, they're they're thinking that this is going to solve the problem of you staying with the comfort show no it's stupid I agree it's the dumbest.

Nathan Mumm:

It's the dumbest all right, tell us more. Tell us more what? What's going on here?

Mike Gorday:

well, they have been telling their screenwriters to have characters announce what they're doing so that viewers who have a program on in the background can follow along without having to miss plot strands. Okay, uh, there's barely been any pushback until now. So several, so several screenwriters who've worked for the streamer are telling the outlet that a common note from the company executives is to do this. And, after all, focusing your time on a 90-minute movie is certainly not an option for the token Netflix viewer. An example of it is from their number one hit movie, irish wish starring lindsey lohan.

Mike Gorday:

I don't know how that became number one, but hey, uh is. Hey, we spend a day. We spend a day together. Lohan tells her lover james, and irish wish. I admit it was a beautiful day, filled with dramatic vistas and romantic rain, but that doesn't give me the right to question my life choices. Tomorrow I'm marrying paul. Fine, he responds, that will be the last you see of me, because after this job is over, I'm going off to bolivia to photograph an endangered tree lizard. Okay, you, you, do you not understand how stupid that is? That sounds?

Ody:

like poor writing. It is horrible poor writing. It is why that movie did so well. It was probably generated by AI.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, no, ai would not have generated it that bad. They would not have said I'm going over here and I'm going to photograph an endangered tree lizard Maybe. Maybe, Grok maybe do that, I don't know.

Mike Gorday:

Stop defending AI.

Ody:

With that being said, what?

Mike Gorday:

that's just what's happening right so there is no, the I you've written. You've written screenplays I I no, I've not written. I don't write screenplays, but I, I am a writer. I've written books and stories and articles and things like that, so, so I've been writing and this is one of the most. This is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of.

Nathan Mumm:

Alright, so you're not a big fan of Netflix's. No this is dumb.

Mike Gorday:

It's stupid.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, there you go, I get you. Let's go to story number three. This is great. Gm has recently settled with the FTC over allegations that it misled drivers by collecting and sharing their personal data without disclosure. Now we've talked about this ongoing for the last probably two and a half years, so this is not something new to our listeners. No, we've talked about OnStar. Yep subsidiary gathered extensive driver data such as speed, sharp turns, hard braking and seat belt usage, and shared this with consumer reporting agencies.

Nathan Mumm:

Now the Texas Attorney General's lawsuit has claimed that GM pressured drivers into enrolling onto OnStar Smart Driver by stating that it has some safety features that would be disabled otherwise. However, drivers were not informed that their data would be collected and sold to insurers, which included a national rise on driver's insurance. So again, I go back to the whole thing. Here it's how is this going to financially be paid back to the poor people that signed up?

Nathan Mumm:

Because OnStar is not free, it's an additional paid service. They sold their information out there and only now, under pressure, is GM saying that they're going to take it away, and they say that they're going to work to educate users more on their vehicles. Well, here's the problem is, if you sign this privacy agreement to use OnStar, to use any of these GM vehicles that they have the service into. Whether you opt in or opt out, they're still tracking your data. And the next thing is is some of these new contracts? If you want to buy a gm car, if you don't sign that contract, mike, guess what, you can't purchase a new vehicle so yes, I know.

Mike Gorday:

So I used to pressure people into getting on star there you go. All right, there you go and you will be pressured to get on. Star, because that's part of the salesman's job is to get you on to, and you because you get a free trial.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah and then, if you stay on, do you get a residual as a salesperson if you sell it that way, not on star- but you know that's part of your commission.

Mike Gorday:

that's part of your commission is is getting all these upsells on things. All right, okay.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, let's go to story number four.

Ody:

So story number four is about K. College is now teaching students how to talk on the phone as a class as a class Okay. So one college in the United Kingdom is offering a course to help students get over their phone fears. According to the BBC, Nottingham college is offering training sessions designed to help pupils gain some confidence when yapping into the phone.

Marc Gregoire:

All right.

Ody:

Some of these students may even have a phobia of talking on the phone, which even has a name telephobia.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay.

Ody:

They spoke with a 17-year-old student named Elvie who says the only people I'll call on the phone are my mom or dad, but anyone else I don't want them to call me because it feels quite formal and that's not something I'm used to. It's unknown to our generation. We've grown up texting each other and, as somebody who grew up in this generation, Okay, that's why you have this story here.

Nathan Mumm:

Do you feel comfortable talking on the phone?

Ody:

Yes and no, it depends. I will say what I prefer because my okay. So here's the best relation I can have with this. My sister suffers from social anxiety. She hates calling on the phone because of the unpredictability of it, and that's also why I hate talking on the phone when it's with someone who I'm comfortable with, aka my mom and dad or my siblings, I can be on the phone for hours because there's no, what do you call that? There's no sense of. Oh, I really need to have the most perfect response with them. I could just blab and blab for hours, versus if I'm on the phone with the doctor.

Ody:

That stresses me out, because it's often you know for my own personality I feel bad for asking for them to further explain something, or something completely slips my mind and I don't have the confidence to then say, oh hey, let's cut back to that real quick. When is my appointment again? What do I need to bring? So I've often hung up on the phone call. Let's cut back to that real quick. When is my appointment again? What do I need to bring? Da, da, da, da, da da. So I've often hung up on the phone call after I spent like an hour waiting trying to get an appointment, trying to speak to an actual human representative, to then get off the phone and be like darn. I forgot some key points that I really wanted to bring up, hence da, da da.

Mike Gorday:

That's so interesting. That's a really good example of social evolution and how we are changed. Our behavior is changed by the environment in which we live in. I hate getting on the phone because I can't talk to a human being.

Ody:

Yes, that is another thing that I hate A human being. I can talk.

Nathan Mumm:

talk to a human being yes, that is another thing that I hate A human being. I can talk much quicker too. I can get things taken care of, and I grew up with the telephone stretched 20-foot cord into the subroom and talking to the girls and talking to my buddies and everything on the phone. That was our only communication because we didn't have computers, so it's easier. Texting for me is much more difficult, and the voice to text I don't ever check it, so I get words, I get texts that are just crazy words.

Mike Gorday:

Well you can't talk anyway, so that's probably a problem.

Ody:

I identify as a millennial because I'm on the cusp of the end of the millennials. I remember when minutes were a thing. I still remember that and I also had a answering machine at home. I remember having a home phone. That's actually becoming a thing again. I remember all that and I will say I'm probably the last one to remember having to tell my friends like, yeah, call my home phone, leave a message, then my parents will hear it, and then da-da-da-da. So I still remember phone etiquette and all that. But my sister who grew up more heavily on, who was only two years younger than me, she didn't really have the home phone experience. Yes, it was still a thing, but it wasn't that big of a thing for her because, you know, flip phones were more accessible and more of the norm for kids her age at that time so let's go back to the story.

Nathan Mumm:

Would you actually attend a class in?

Ody:

college? No, because I don't need it, but I can definitely see my sister and other people do it. Yeah, and someone like my younger brother who was 15, I could definitely see him doing that all right, this is a college level this is a college level class I I kind of feel a little old.

Nathan Mumm:

No, I don't. You should know how to talk.

Mike Gorday:

I don't know that we should be relying on colleges and universities to teach our children how to talk on a phone.

Ody:

I mean, is that really a bizarre thing though? Because, honestly, there is a lot of kids that graduate high school, that don't have the foundational skills for the real world.

Mike Gorday:

If we need to have, he will not talk on the phone.

Nathan Mumm:

No matter what he does, he will not talk on the phone Individual I work with.

Mike Gorday:

I won't say his name. I don't want to call his name out, if, but if it needs to be some sort of educational track, then community colleges have these kind of weird little classes that you can take to do stuff that might be an option but, maybe it should be addressed sooner, maybe in secondary edge or something like that.

Ody:

But the issue again, it's not used day to day. But the issue again, it's not used day to day Like I know, culturally. For me it's something where every you know I grew up watching my mom call all her siblings and be like, oh, this is what happened this week. So I saw that and I witnessed that, and that's what I do with my sister, even though that we live together.

Mike Gorday:

Well, the conflict is not your personal use of the phone call, but when you get into the career world. The phone is still a cornerstone of what we do.

Ody:

Not as much, though. Like think about it, you said it yourself you spend your time on customer service hoping for that human interaction. Why? Because it's usually just some AI bot that is going through the fake, typing emotions on the background.

Mike Gorday:

That's your experience as a customer but when you're sitting at a desk doing your job, you're more than likely going to have a phone sitting there, unless you're in the tech world, I don't even know, if that's yeah, you know a lot of offices

Speaker 2:

now don know. They use Discord and Slack all the time nowadays to communicate with each other.

Mike Gorday:

But I have a phone that I have to use, but then again.

Ody:

I'm in the social services arena, but don't you usually send your correspondence through email?

Mike Gorday:

What.

Ody:

Don't you usually send your primary correspondence through email?

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, I do. Young kids don't, though they do it in text. I send my kids both emails. They never, ever look at the emails. Primary correspondence through email yeah, I do, but young kids don't they do. They do it in text. I I send my kids both emails. They never, ever look at the emails, but if I text them, then they'll respond.

Ody:

Oh yeah, instantaneous. Yeah, but you can't, you can't.

Mike Gorday:

You can't do sales with an email, you can't do sales with text, so you have to use the phone. A lot of industries still require a voice-to-voice sort of situation. So this is why this is a necessary piece is that the evolution here is that, socially, you're doing this, you're learning this technology from a personal use aspect, but then when you get it, and this is the same- for other aspects, this is Mike's most rising moment.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, I guess this is the same for other aspects.

Mike Gorday:

This is Mike's most rising moment. Yeah, I guess this is the same aspect. This is the same aspect as many things that are affecting the work world. You, know, like dependability and not showing up when you just don't want to.

Ody:

That's a big thing in my generation. Yeah, you just call out. Yeah, the idea that you actually have to work. They don't even call out.

Mike Gorday:

They just don't show up.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, it's going to show up, all right. Well, we can't solve all of the world's problems today. We'll continue to do that, but I just did Okay, there you go.

Mike Gorday:

That is our top, all the technology.

Nathan Mumm:

That is our top technology stories of the week. Moving on, we have the best of the best from CES. Tech Time Radio's review. We'll information regarding the Consumer Electronics Show, on both the best of the best and the craziest. All right, you're listening to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm. See you after this commercial break.

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Nathan Mumm:

Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. Our weekly show covers the top technology subjects without a political agenda. We verify the facts and we do it to sense a humor in less than 60 minutes and, of course, a little whiskey on the side. Today, mark Gregoire, our whiskey connoisseur, has got a crazy event going on here. We have three whiskeys, so you're going to have to tell us, mark, what do we have?

Marc Gregoire:

today. Oh, today is a special day. Today is Jack Daniel's single barrel barrel proof rye. And these are all. This is a special picks battle. Okay, so they're all the same whiskey.

Nathan Mumm:

No way, these are all the same whiskey these are all the same whiskey.

Marc Gregoire:

They're just single barrels.

Nathan Mumm:

Really they taste there's a big difference between green and red. Let me just tell you that. Okay.

Marc Gregoire:

All right Now from Jack Daniel's website. This annual special release single barrel, barrel proof rye celebrates the early craftsmanship of the Jack Daniel Distillery, honoring a time when American whiskey was often high in rye content and offered at barrel strength, Bottled in its purest form right from the barrel and uncut at full proof. It's packed with Jack character with their signature smooth finish proof. It's packed with Jack character with their signature smooth finish. Proof will range from 125 to 140, depending on which bottle you pick up Complex flavors of ripe fruit mingled with a light toasted oak note to create a rich, rich taste with spice and pleasant lingering finish. Now this is released from Brown Foreman. Of course. It's done in the Jack Daniel Distillery in Lynchburg, tennessee. It is a rye. It's non-age stated, but all these are assumed to be at least four years old. It is 70% rye, 18% corn, 12% malted barley and they go for about $60.

Mike Gorday:

So what makes them taste different?

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, there's a huge difference. There's a huge difference.

Marc Gregoire:

So if you remember, on some past shows when we've talked about single barrels, this is the way to express to people, to show them why single barrels have such a different influence. Okay, so just where they're stored in the warehouse, the particular barrel they're in Are you going to explain each of the barrels that it gets done in our whiskey.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, one barrel's named.

Marc Gregoire:

Our whiskey yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

I do a little bit during the moment. Okay, alright.

Marc Gregoire:

Alright, now don't forget to like and subscribe. In addition, please comment. Let us know if there's a whiskey you want us to review and drink responsibly. Heaven can wait, there you go.

Nathan Mumm:

Wow, I'll just tell you. There's one that is just killer, there's one that I could handle and there's one, I think, that's pretty smooth. So we'll see. Okay, with our first whiskey tasting completed, or three, let's move on to our feature segment. Today we have the best of the best from CES. Let's start our next segment.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to the best of the best for CES 2025, presented by Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, here we go. We're going to start with the best new laptop. Imagine a laptop screen that can expand on command. This is amazing. The portable display is the ThinkPad Plus Gen 6 that offers a truly unique solution With the touch of a button, the world's first rollable laptop OLED display grows from 14 inches to 16.77 inches I saw this on fallon. Yeah, pretty cool you saw this on fallon. Yeah, yeah, this is how does it grow?

Marc Gregoire:

did they make jokes about it?

Mike Gorday:

because I certainly got some jokes. So you know it laptop it grows up yes, yes, I, yeah, I have a picture of this funny it does look funny, but it also looks really cool.

Nathan Mumm:

It's really cool. So the idea of this is let's say, you have a lengthy document, a PDF. Now, all of a sudden, instead of you have to scroll and scroll, you actually have the screen scroll up.

Mike Gorday:

So your computer gets excited about PDFs, doesn't?

Marc Gregoire:

it. Oh wow, how do you make it grow Well?

Nathan Mumm:

you hit a button on it and it expands Just touch it.

Ody:

You got to turn it on, mark, thank you, odie.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, it includes an Intel Core Ultra processor with Wi-Fi 7 networking. Now the problem is this multitasking laptop comes with a pretty premium price tag of almost $3,500. Wait until next year, it'll be lower.

Nathan Mumm:

It'll be lower, but this is actually kind of cool. And you know what, wait till next year. It'll be lower, it'll be lower, but this is actually kind of a cool. And you know what? I think Lenovo has an idea on this, because this first model goes up. I can actually see them having it grow and having it expand so that you actually get larger screens on you guys. Okay, all right.

Mike Gorday:

All right, I'm sorry, it was just there. It was right there.

Nathan Mumm:

The Lenovo Legend GS. Now, we actually talked about this before it actually happened.

Nathan Mumm:

It's a gaming handheld that we've been anticipating, you've been anticipating Well at the first party to time that they've had a third party that can now run the Steam OS, the same operating system that you get on the steam deck. And if you don't want that, on this little handheld which looks exactly like a steam deck, you can actually get a unit with windows 11, with microsoft's os, the legion gs boots uh, unibody design, we're going the detachable controllers, it's all in one, just like the current steam deck price is 599 for the windows 11 version and 499 for the steam os version. How much is a steam deck? Well, steam decks. Right now is 329 399 steam deck. That's the steam decks, maybe well, the same thing get.

Nathan Mumm:

Let's get a steam well, the idea of this is that you now have a d-pad and the steam deck doesn't have a d-pad it has a controller, so you know yeah mike, it's all about being innovative for 2025.

Nathan Mumm:

It's all about buttons that you can, that's right. That's right. Well, speaking about buttons, let's talk about a robot vacuum. Now this was going to be on my weird area, but then actually I did more and more research and so I moved it on to kind of like the best. So this is called Roborock SARS-Z70. It's the robot vacuum that actually can detect objects like socks and shoes in their path, navigate to them and the robot vacuum actually picks them up. That's right. It's equipped with a claw-mounted arm at the end of the robotic unit. It can actually go and pick up and move your laundry into obstacles that they find available for you. Can they put them?

Mike Gorday:

in a pile somewhere.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, so you can have a. You can have an area that the robotic arm will go and pick up your socks, your shoes, drop it off into a pile and it still does an excellent job of cleaning the floor and it includes mop heads that are kind of the new item with this, where they can put water into it and it actually can clean up and mop your floor at the same time are we gonna see this in the mom home soon? Oh boy this.

Mike Gorday:

So I was looking at this as a weird event and then I, the more and more I thought about it, these are all things that we're never gonna see. Well, I don't know I don't know.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't know, I actually like that, I actually like the. Yeah, so that's why it moved from the crazy into my.

Mike Gorday:

Wasn't there something that we did something with laundry, where something moved your laundry around?

Nathan Mumm:

We did it from the UK. That was a deal where you would actually take the laundry from the washing machine and move it into the drying unit.

Marc Gregoire:

So is the claw always out or just the claw?

Nathan Mumm:

always out, it retracts.

Marc Gregoire:

It grows.

Ody:

Have you seen Star Wars Rebels.

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, I have.

Ody:

This would be chopper. I'm stoked for this.

Mike Gorday:

If you get this.

Ody:

I will be over all the time.

Mike Gorday:

Is it going to have a bad attitude about stuff?

Ody:

No.

Mike Gorday:

That would really make it chopper.

Nathan Mumm:

Listen to this next company. Singapore startup Flint has developed a flexible, rechargeable paper battery that can be as small as a coin and embedded in a smartwatch strap. It also uses cellulose for ion transferring, making it environment friendly, and, according to the co-founder, carlo Charles, their supply chain is abundant, as they don't require a rare or toxic material. The batters are biodegradable within six weeks. You can even compose feed your plants. Flint is currently focused on a smaller consumer, electronics, but sees potential for scaling up to smartphones and larger applications like electric cars and planes. The thin design allows layering just like a paper. If you get five or six pieces of paper on top of each other, without the fire hazards of lithium ion, oh okay. So what's the supply chain? The supply chain is paper. And where does paper come?

Mike Gorday:

from Trees, and where do we have abundant trees that are being deforested all over the place? Oh, okay, well, hang on.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, all right. Here's another one of the best products from CES. It's called the HMD Off Grid. Now, if you own a smartphone like an iPhone 16 or a Google Pixel 9, you might already have access to satellite communications. If you're in an emergency, think of a climber, a hiker, the jogger that's out in remote areas.

Marc Gregoire:

Looking around this room, I can't not picture that. I cannot picture that Well.

Mike Gorday:

I'm out in the middle of nowhere every day, can't you tell?

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, but for most of us, this feature has been absent on our devices, leaving us vulnerable if reception goes down. Actually, leaving us vulnerable if reception goes down. Actually, if you just go across the mountains in Washington State, your reception goes down.

Mike Gorday:

So this would help you with that. If you go to a spot in my apartment, it goes down it goes down All right.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, hmd's off-grid accessory addresses this gap. With a $200 dongle, you can send texts and reach emergency servers from any iPhone or Android device. However, there's a subscription for monthly service that is required, costing or Android device. However, there's a subscription for monthly service that is required, costing at $80 per year. But you can actually do it per month type of deals. You don't have to pay the whole $80, but that's the cheaper way to do it. So, for 80 bucks, if you're a hiker, a kayaker, jogger, somebody that is out into the area, this is a replacement for that satellite phone that some of these places used to carry around. Now you get access to a satellite if you need an emergency call to use their service. I like this. Now iPhone 16 and the new Android devices are kind of being built into this and they're actually leasing space in satellites to do this. So it may be a great feature for the next four or five years and it may just become all incorporating into the new product designs. But there we go. What would you have to say there?

Ody:

od, you're excited about that uh, my dad is an avid hiker slash camper. This would be nice. Yeah, I'm trying to think of how it would compete with the already on the market items, though so like I think it's called garmin yeah, garmin has a remote device that's available there too.

Nathan Mumm:

uh, the thing is, it's the dongle, and so the dongle you just plug into your phone.

Ody:

See, that would be nicer instead of having the whole. You have to connect with it, you have to do Bluetooth to it so it makes it easier.

Nathan Mumm:

You just plug it in, boom, it's ready to go. So I see that functionality and just being simple to use Well worth it than me trying to connect to this device and then having it available.

Ody:

Yes, I will say I haven't been able. Every time my dad has sent that like this is where we are text. It's a whole thing for me to try to figure out where he is there you go.

Marc Gregoire:

I think this is valuable, but once again, I think it's a transition period before these actually get built in.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, and we did say that we think the satellite's going to be kind of the satellite phone with Musk and all of his Starlink.

Marc Gregoire:

What's the next story?

Nathan Mumm:

All right. The Gaming Pixel Light A light bright for the 21st century, unveiled at CES 2025,. The Goovee Gaming Pixel Light is a panel that showcases pixel art and built-in video game related content. It's the first to support text. To light, ai generated lighting effects letting you type what you want on the Goofy app and then appears on the board so you can upload animated GIFs or images. For a retro touch, this is the perfect wall mounted or tabletop display.

Marc Gregoire:

So it's like a fancy picture frame.

Nathan Mumm:

Well no, it's kind of like a stock ticker.

Mike Gorday:

It's like a little stock banner that you can sit at your desk and program.

Nathan Mumm:

You can see information for weather, sports schedules, stock quotes, a bunch of different stuff. So that's okay.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, I don't know why this. Oh wait, this was Nathan's list. That's why.

Nathan Mumm:

That's why that's why that's why, that's why, that's why that's why, never mind you, probably shouldn't open up your list with a growing screen.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay. The ExoMotion, the world's most advanced wearable robotic exoskeleton, is designed to assist patients with mobility issues, including spinal cord injuries, stroke or other neurological conditions. Created by the Vancouver-based Human InMotion Robots Inc, this is a lower-limb device that aids in standing and walking through self balancing and hands-free functionality, is intended to use and rehab centers and hospitals to reduce the cognitive load and physical strain on therapists. X motions received health Canada approval and is currently in clinical trials for FDA approval in the United States.

Mike Gorday:

See, that's what you should have started with. That's a good one. That, that's a nice. It's a good one, that's a nice.

Marc Gregoire:

It's a great one, but until you got to the middle of it, I thought it was going to be like one of those disco robots.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, I stayed off robots because I know how much Mike likes robots. At CES there's a whole bunch of them, I was waiting for it to devolve further.

Marc Gregoire:

It'd be interesting to talk more with James, the best of the best James might know about this.

Nathan Mumm:

I probably would. Now we're going to go just briefly into Mike's mesmerizing moment to see what Mike liked. Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment. What does Mike have to say today? All right, mike, which of these items did?

Mike Gorday:

you like the best.

Nathan Mumm:

This is well, you already went you already talked. You had your whole thing in the main show. If you're really mesmerizing moment, yeah okay, all right.

Mike Gorday:

So I think the best one on this list is the x motion stuff xo motion. Um, although for pure uh, comedic resolve, the very first one was probably the best the laptop yeah, that's okay. All right, there you go but everything else, you know, that's I'm not a, you know, I don't have a steam deck I. I don't hike your camp anymore, and when I did, I didn't I. I went to get away from all the electronic stuff. So okay, all right well.

Nathan Mumm:

Thank you, mike, for that inspirational. I need a paper battery. The paper battery is kind of cool. I like the paper battery that's an.

Mike Gorday:

That's an interesting one. I, I, but you know, I'm thinking in terms of, uh, where they're getting their, where they're getting their paper and how much they're yeah, if it works, I would think it doesn't mean you cut down trees.

Marc Gregoire:

I'm sure it could be part of the recycle stuff.

Mike Gorday:

Let's hope so, because you know, that's just one of those things that we get to learn about after all these wonderful innovations, you know like lithium mining became a huge problem after lithium batteries.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Well, we're going to head out here to a commercial break now. It'll be a great time to enjoy a little whiskey on the side, as we're going to be doing so. You're listening to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm. See you in a few minutes. Hey, Mike.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, what's up hey.

Nathan Mumm:

So you know what. We need people to start liking our social media page If you like our show, if you really like us we could use your support on Patreoncom.

Mike Gorday:

Is it Patreon? I think it's Patreon. Okay, patreon, if you really like us, you can like us in Patreoncom.

Nathan Mumm:

I butcher the English language. You know, you butcher the English language all the time. It's Patreoncom, patreoncom.

Mike Gorday:

If you really like our show, you can subscribe to Patreoncom and help us out and you can visit us on that Facebook platform.

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Mike Gorday:

It seems to be that there's a trend and that's Tech Time Radio, or you can even Instagram with us and that's at Tech Time Radio.

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Mike Gorday:

Like and subscribe to our social media Like us today we need you to like us. Like us and subscribe, that's it.

Nathan Mumm:

That's it. It's that simple. And now let's look back at this week in technology. All right, we're going back to January 23rd 1996. Have you ever heard of the thing called Java? Java released and coffee drinkers were confused. The first version of the Java programming language was released. The ability of Java is to write once run anywhere Made it ideal for internet-based applications. Is to write once run anywhere Made it ideal for internet-based applications, and every internet browser at that time adopted the Java plugins to have all of your internet be sourced. The popularity of the internet soared and so did the usage of Java. All right, and then it became a way that criminals could actually write code that would then maliciously cause issues. And now everybody has moved away from.

Mike Gorday:

Java.

Nathan Mumm:

Now, everybody hates Java, that's right, all right, that was January 23rd 1996. Well, that was this Week in Technology. Have you ever wanted to watch some Tech Time history, with over 220-plus weekly broadcasts spanning our four-plus years? You can check out our video podcasts and blog information. You can also visit us online at techtimeradiocom to watch our older shows. We're going to take a commercial break. When we return, we have our Mark Mumble Whiskey Review. See you after the break.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's Whiskey Mumble.

Marc Gregoire:

All right, gentlemen, january 21st. What are we celebrating today?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, we have three Jim Beans here.

Mike Gorday:

Jack Daniels, buddy, is it a Jack Daniels? Oh sorry, jack Daniels, sorry.

Ody:

Jack Daniels Is it a Jack Daniels you want to?

Marc Gregoire:

give them a hint, since they're not close. What's that?

Ody:

You gift. Okay, so part of this item, it's a two-parter.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay.

Ody:

You gifted me one of them for Christmas this year, ooh.

Mike Gorday:

Good hint.

Ody:

Okay, that's part of it.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, it's National Sock Day.

Ody:

No.

Mike Gorday:

It's National. Pick Up your Socks With a Robot Arm Day.

Ody:

No, Think of your. What's your favorite?

Nathan Mumm:

favorite food Lasagna.

Ody:

Okay, what's on lasagna?

Nathan Mumm:

Cheese Socks. There we go, cheese socks.

Ody:

Cheese socks.

Nathan Mumm:

What is that we?

Ody:

got to it. I didn't think we would. That's pretty good.

Marc Gregoire:

Cheesy sock day. Okay, cheesy sock day. So this day that defines your personal taste and style.

Nathan Mumm:

I take you in just to let you know. If we're doing charades or anything like that, I take you as my partner. That was a good way.

Marc Gregoire:

It's all about loving and honoring cheesy sock patterns and how adorable they look on you. Yes, your love for cheesy socks is shared by thousands of people across the world, even myself, and now is the time that you can go out flaunting your favorite pair and I wore one of my favorite pairs today.

Ody:

I wish I would Really.

Marc Gregoire:

I don't understand that logic. I got my dad's socks for Christmas.

Mike Gorday:

I'm going to wash them every day.

Nathan Mumm:

So my dad is Wear them every day. My dad moved to Texas and he's a big fan of President-elect Donald Trump and there were these socks that were on sale and it actually has his hair, so you actually put on. That's actually kind of funny. It was kind of funny. So you put on the socks and they have this huge thing of this hair come over left and right, but it moves left or right, so that's a little creepy actually, is it?

Mike Gorday:

Well, it's not as creepy as some of our seats, Although if I could, you know, do it the right way, I could sweep my floor and not worry about the robot.

Marc Gregoire:

Every Tuesday, if you see me, I'll probably be wearing my taco socks. Okay, yeah, and today I'm wearing my octopuses because, uh, since we're drinking whiskey. I need more arms to grab, you know, more glasses.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, you know I'd love to have eight arms and eight different whiskeys okay, I know where you can get a laptop that has a growing screen mike walks at lenovo, he okay all right, all right.

Marc Gregoire:

Well, in recent years, novelty sock companies have created Jack Daniel theme socks too. Perfect for whiskey lovers who want to express their passion for the iconic brand. These socks often feature the classic Jack Daniel's old number seven logo, barrels and whiskey glasses. Pairing these with the cheesy theme socks could be a playful nod to enjoying whiskey with a chocotree board.

Nathan Mumm:

A common pairing that often includes Is that a chocotery?

Marc Gregoire:

Chocotery is the English pronunciation oh, yes, okay, way to go. So we have three picks for our whiskey today. Yes, now, they're all the same bourbon. They're all the Jack Daniels single barrel proof rye at barrel strength. Since they're single barrels, they're all from different barrels. Yes, so we have. One of them is from the Bourbon Hounds. Now, that's one of the whiskey groups I'm part of. Okay, I find this one a little hot, masking the flavors. Is that my red dot one? I'm not telling you. Okay, now, a dash of water does help this one tremendously bring out the flavors. Okay, number two and three are from another bourbon group I'm part of, and it's there called Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. Oh, now, dr Jekyll, this is my favorite. I find it the most balanced and flavorful. Mr Hyde is a favorite of that whiskey group because it's very spicy and bold, and I'm wondering which one Nathan and Mike are going to choose.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, so you've got Jackal and Hyde. So what I've learned from this is you're in two different whiskey groups. Yeah let's just say two. Let's just say two.

Mike Gorday:

He probably is a closet, maybe eight group whiskey I think so Okay All right. Well, how many groups?

Marc Gregoire:

So thank you, Nathan.

Nathan Mumm:

How does this pair All right Whiskey and technology are a great pairing, just like popcorn in the movie theater.

Marc Gregoire:

It's a perfect combination.

Nathan Mumm:

Now let's go on to the movie of life in the form of the craziest things at CES and now for the strange, bizarre and all-out crazy inventions from CES 2025, presented by Tech Time Radio with Nathan. Mumm. Well, now that we've finished the best of the best from CES for Tech Time with Nathan Mumm, now we're on to things that will make you go mmm, with the unique, crazy and weird items from CES. Now let's talk about the first one. It's called the Karen electric salt spoon.

Marc Gregoire:

Oh, I'm curious about this one Weird yes.

Nathan Mumm:

A little big for sure. But does it work? You bet. Instead of consuming flavorless food because everybody's on a low sodium diet, now you can have your tastes simulated salt with the Kirin Smart Spoon, which sends an electric current through the utensil to your tongue which tricks the taste buds into thinking your food is saltier than it is. The handle of the spoon houses the product's power and settings with four different saltiest options. The idea is that we'll think that we had salt, but it's not for those on a healthier diet yeah, you can get the same thing by licking a nine volt before you put food in your mouth, but don't expect this japanese product to ride to the us anytime soon.

Nathan Mumm:

education software giant is having issues with this that they're taking a look at to see if they can actually have this uh in available for the United States sooner than later.

Marc Gregoire:

All right, I would have been interested in this before the salt type of deal.

Nathan Mumm:

I you know what. It's a big. It's a big spoon. I get the whole idea that you're trying to save on sodium. I don't know if I'm going to be okay with me having an electric simulation to my tongue to get that taken care of.

Marc Gregoire:

But you know, I had an adrenal gland issue so I could. I had to cut out salt because it was it's not. It's not good to process it until my adrenal gland was pulled out, and so a lot of stuff was was tough without salt okay, all right, all right, number two.

Mike Gorday:

But you could lick a penny and get the same. Get the same results, I guess all right, the new Tribble.

Nathan Mumm:

No CS event is complete without an adorable robot stealing our hearts. This year, the charmer is the Yaka Marima, a fluff ball of cuteness. Its main functions are looking cute and engaging.

Mike Gorday:

What? Yeah, it's Yuki Yuki, yuki. You know what?

Nathan Mumm:

It's not going to make a big difference, because this is what it does. It engages with you in eye content. It'll occasionally make a coy glance at you to keep you intrigued. The expected cost is 80 for this to essentially be in your purse or case that just moves left and right.

Marc Gregoire:

This is so if you buy one, does it turn into hundreds? It does not do why do they call it the?

Nathan Mumm:

trail. Well, that's what they're trying to say. It's kind of in, in my opinion, a waste of time.

Mike Gorday:

I don't need to have this look like it's a fluffy thing, a little fluffy thing that just sits around and stares.

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, yes, that's all it does I that's a cat. Well, there's many different things that you can have for that, but this is a.

Ody:

What's it called the U-Kai? What the U-Kai?

Nathan Mumm:

Mirarumi Tribble Mirarumi. All right, so you get to take a look at it.

Ody:

I would not pay 80 bucks for this Move on.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, the EcoFlow Power Hat.

Mike Gorday:

Do you want to be able to charge my phone with my hat? Well then, we have the hat for you.

Nathan Mumm:

The EcoFlow Power Hat includes an embedded set of silicon solar cells and a pair of charging ports. It looks dorky, for sure, but it's also pretty dang useful. It costs $129 and it's available right now. So this hat, this is a hat with plug-ins, this is a hat with plug-ins, so you have cables that come down to your phone. Well, you just plug it in, it goes into your hat so that you have your devices right next to your brain as you're walking around in this hat.

Marc Gregoire:

But is it actually a plug-in or is it a wireless charging? We just slide it in the hat? No, you have to plug it in.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't know, All right so here we go. We have Odie decided.

Mike Gorday:

That's a little creepy looking.

Ody:

Isn't that creepy?

Nathan Mumm:

That's 80 bucks, All right.

Ody:

Odie, I think that's so cute.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh well, okay.

Ody:

I would buy it, okay, which you know 80 bucks on.

Nathan Mumm:

That Just sits in your purse and it goes back.

Speaker 2:

It just sits there and just stares at you.

Ody:

It just stares stuffed animal for $7 and put it on my purse and do that the same thing. What are you talking about? Maybe that's what you could get me for Christmas next year.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, that's the same thing those little robots used to do, oh my god. Furbies, furbies, yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

No, Furby actually had an interaction though. Oh yeah, I know because, no, it just stares at you, that's it.

Ody:

So, what's robotic about it.

Mike Gorday:

Well, the head will move left and right. The head moves, get me a Furby. You're sitting there and suddenly it turns its head around three times.

Nathan Mumm:

Here you go, get ready for this item here, odie. The next one we have the Star Trek tricorder. It's called the Mecha System Comet. It's a handheld. The Mecha M-E-C-H-A System Comet. It's a handheld computer of your dreams. It's compact, modular, linux based device, is perfect for the hobbyist, and it features a 1.8 gigahertz arm, 64 quad core processor, 32 gigabytes of storage and four gigabytes of Ram. Everything is expandable and customizable. A magnetic snap interface allows the users to clip on various control panels to see it. The comment will soon be available on Kickstarter. What am I going to do? Snap interface Allows users to clip on various control panels to see if the comet will soon be available on Kickstarter.

Mike Gorday:

What am I going to do on this thing?

Nathan Mumm:

$160. It looks like a tricorder from Star Trek.

Mike Gorday:

A tricorder in Star Trek is something that you use to figure out what's going on around you, right?

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, it's a mini computer. It's a mini computer built on the. Is it going to take sensor readings of my?

Mike Gorday:

space and be like telling me.

Nathan Mumm:

All it does is it looks like a tricolour.

Mike Gorday:

There's a Lenovo growing.

Nathan Mumm:

You like that? All right, here we go. Here's the last that thing over there staring at me. Here's the last of the weirds. Do you love your plants? Yes, and wish you could communicate with them.

Mike Gorday:

Oh my god Enter.

Nathan Mumm:

Peddle from the makers of Bird Buddy. We actually had them on here two years ago, the Bird Buddy was the craziest thing, it's Peddle the makers of Bird Buddy. Peddle is a camera with a flexible stem you can place in your yard to monitor your plants and flowers. In 2025 style, it's AI-powered to identify potential hazards like insects and bees. Plus, you can chat with your flowers via the Bird Buddies chat bot to learn about your flowers day.

Mike Gorday:

Oh, my God.

Marc Gregoire:

There you go Nice. All right, the petal Cody's doing that one.

Nathan Mumm:

Is doing the petal. I don't think, there you go, right there, that's it, right there, yeah.

Ody:

I would, yeah, get it for my sister.

Mike Gorday:

Maybe she could take care of her plants Well the question is that you can talk to your plants, but does your plants talk to you?

Ody:

You know what I'd like to think that they do.

Nathan Mumm:

I know you would Hopefully it doesn't have the grok AI interface.

Mike Gorday:

Alright, grass screams when you cut it.

Nathan Mumm:

Alright, that ends our weird cs items this is your nugget of the week all right.

Nathan Mumm:

Here's my nugget. Sometimes they're rants, sometimes they're educational. This one is kind of in between. At&t has decided to end its 5g internet air service in new york. Due to the new affordable broadband act, which went into effect on wednesday, existing users can now continue to use the service for 45 days without charges, allowing time to find alternative providers. The Affordable Broadband Act required providers with over 20,000 customers to have affordable plans for low-income households. These plans must offer speeds of 25 megabits per second for $15 per month and 200 megabits for $20 per month. Rather than comply, at&t has chosen to halt its service, citing uneconomical conditions for investment and expansion.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, that means, that means the cost of money to do that.

Marc Gregoire:

I just left them.

Nathan Mumm:

That's the decision follows the discontinuation of the federal affordable connectivity program last year. I'm sure more cities will stop this service from AT&T in their process of doing that. So AT&T must be hurting for money, is what I can say, because there's something about providing internet services at a low level Internet service, once you have a pipe and you get a fiber line that's going into it and you distribute the stuff, there is no additional cost. There's switching and different items to that. But it's like water coming out of a hose. If I'm deciding to part half of the water to the left side of the hose or the right side of the hose, if it goes to the left side I still have the same amount of water I If it goes to the left side, I still have the same amount of water. I'm not costing me anything more to get the water that comes in there.

Marc Gregoire:

It's just like all the low phone providers can do it.

Mike Gorday:

Like Mint, Mobile does it for inexpensive and they just piggyback off people. Well, I guess you would have to get Ryan Reynolds to buy a. No, Ryan.

Nathan Mumm:

Reynolds. Clearly, ryan Reynolds is their spokesperson, right, but there's just somebody that understood how to do ones and zero numbers and put it together and say, hey, we can still make money if you do it this way, all right. Now let's move to our pick of the day whiskey tasting and now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings.

Marc Gregoire:

Let's see what bubbles to the top all right, gentlemen, we're drinking jack daniel's single barrel barrel proof rye. We have three different single barrels here from brown foreman. They they're all ryes at least four years old. They range from $128 to $132 proof and $60 per bottle, roughly when you find it. What color is your?

Nathan Mumm:

favorite. My palette is the red. I think it's a little bit spicier. I think this is the spicy one.

Marc Gregoire:

Which one was your favorite?

Mike Gorday:

I like the green one.

Marc Gregoire:

Alright, so red is my favorite, mr Hyde. And yours was green. That was Dr Jekyll.

Mike Gorday:

Oh, how about that so?

Marc Gregoire:

you're Dr Jekyll and we're Mr Hyde. Any non-drinkable ones.

Nathan Mumm:

I did not like the green myself at all.

Mike Gorday:

Yellow was just kind of eh, I don't think it was non-drinkable, it was just the preferred profile. Was the green? They all taste. At the end of the day, they tasted the same.

Marc Gregoire:

I love the Dr Jekyll and Mr I, so your two are my two favorites. I like the one a little bit better, but depending on my mood. But the yellow one, which is the Bourbon Hounds one, it's good, but not quite to the same level.

Nathan Mumm:

It wasn't that.

Marc Gregoire:

That's right.

Nathan Mumm:

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