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EP 236: Technologies That Disappeared in 2024, Meta's Decision to End Fact-Checking, all while the Future of Space Travel Needs Time. Plus, Gwen Way Has a New Gadget and Gear to Share | Air Date: 1/14 - 1/20/25

• Nathan Mumm • Season 7 • Episode 236

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What if technology isn't just about moving forward but also about the joy of looking back? Join us on Tech Time Radio as we dive into the depths of space exploration, discussing the crucial role of advanced clocks and the historical parallels to maritime navigation. Our exploration takes a turn as we question Meta's decision to end fact-checking, with thought-provoking implications for Silicon Valley. Adding a twist to the tech talk, we sip on Sagamore Spirits Double Oak Rye Whiskey while unraveling the truth behind NVIDIA's identity as they pivot towards AI and supercomputing.

We're thrilled to have cybersecurity expert Gwen Way with us, sharing her unique insights into technology, recent mergers, and, of course, our Gadgets and Gear Segment that looks at the Neutral Freedom X Multi-position chair, a Kickstarter gem promising versatility in seating. The episode takes a light-hearted turn as we celebrate the US Supreme Court's landmark decision on VCR recordings, reflecting on how it paved the way for modern DVR systems. Our anecdotes about recording TV shows during the pre-internet era add a charming touch of nostalgia, reminding us of the tech evolution we've witnessed.

We wrap up with a retrospective glance at soon-to-be-obsolete technologies, weighing the balance between nostalgia and progress. From ICQ to Chromecast, we ponder their fading relevance and the journey of technology into the future. Join us for a compelling hour where tech news meets whiskey, offering insights, laughs, and a touch of nostalgia.

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Nathan Mum:

Welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. The show that makes you go mmm. Technology news of the week. The show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mumm, your host and technologist, with over 30 years of technology expertise. Our co-host, mike Rodea, is in studio and he's the award-winning author and our human behavior expert and not the biggest fan of AI, as you'll find out during the show. Now we're live streaming during our show on four of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, twitchtv, facebook and LinkedIn. We encourage you to visit us online at techtimeradiocom and become a Patreon supporter at patreoncom. Forward slash techtimeradio. We're friends from different backgrounds and we bring the best technology show possible weekly for our family, friends and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have ODR producer at the control panel. Welcome everyone. Let's start today's show.

Speaker 1:

Now on today's show.

Nathan Mum:

All right. On today's show we're going to be talking about the top 10 technologies that vanished in 2024. I have a list of these, so they may surprise you as well. Others may be of interest to you, some you might actually miss. We have deep space exploration, but guess what? There's a piece of technology we need to perfect how we explore space. And just when you think technology can't get more intense, there's Meta's bold decision to end fact-checking as Silicon Valley braces for a shift. Plus, we explore NVIDIA's true identity. Are they just a company for technology, or are they now the new leaders of AI?

Nathan Mum:

In addition, of course, we have our standard features, including Mike's mesmerizing moment, our technology fail of the week and a possible Nathan Nugget. Absolutely, I hope we get to that today. It should be pretty engaging. And of course, our pick of the day whiskey tasting, to see if our selected whiskey pick gets zero, one or two thumbs up at the end of the show. So if you watched last week's show, we had four special whiskeys that we did the very first episode. In each month we have kind of this battle of whiskeys that are going on. We're back to our standard tradition today of just one shot of whiskey. So hopefully our hosts and and so hosts will be able to keep our speech in line instead of slurring at the end of the show. Last shows that us were pretty interesting. You should have seen me, I was. I was a little tipsy but, let's now move on.

Nathan Mum:

Okay, let's move on to our latest headlines in the world of technology.

Speaker 1:

Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mum:

All right Story Number one NVIDIA is a technology company or is it an AI company? Let's go to Crenn, Westland for more on the story.

Speaker 4:

Jensen Huang says NVIDIA is a technology company, but it's really an AI company. Huang opened up CES 2025 in Las Vegas with a keynote that packed the Michelob Ultra Arena in the Mandalay Bay Casino. There was certainly a huge portion of gamers who'd come to see the latest RTX 50 series cards in the flesh, but more were there to see how a company as lucrative as NVIDIA moves forward. Rtx and Project Digits drew hollers and shouts from the crowd. Is NVIDIA going to be able to keep the momentum as the cool processor company everyone wants to use? Only time will tell Back to you guys in the studio.

Nathan Mum:

All right. So let's talk about this. Nvidia, nvidia, nvidia. They are the hot company or the most talked about company for CES and we're going to have our CES best of the best show next week. We're also going to have with that, of course, our worst of the worst, our crazy ideas and the best ideas. Mostly all of next week will be CES. But let's talk about NVIDIA. They did the keynote speech here.

Nathan Mum:

Um, nvidia is now saying that they're moving on to not only do graphic processors but to do processors that will be working in some of the largest companies AI factories for AI. It's really interesting that NVIDIA has a real different approach on how they're taking themselves now, kind of becoming the chip leader in the United States, and what they do is they're going to focus on their customers. Jensen Wong says that we are going to respond to our customers wherever they are and with whatever they need. What's that going to be like? So what he's trying to do is, instead of some of these companies, these processor companies like if I needed help with an Intel processor, do you think if I call Intel or go to intelcom, do you think I get any support from them? Or AMD no, I get no support. They tell me to go back to whoever I bought their processor from, work with them to get a refund or work with them on an issue, but they're not going to do anything.

Nathan Mum:

Nvidia is saying that we're actually going to do that, so we're going to actually spend the time and effort to talk to each of our individuals that are using us. They actually opened up a whole bunch of open source information. They have some of the best AI scalers to upscale in games. So if you have a game that you have, you can actually use NVIDIA's DLSS, which has been around for six years, to put a game's graphics in there and it will actually go through and analyze it and increase the graphics pre-done for your games. That are taken care of All open source. You don't have to pay somebody to do additional work. But NVIDvidia now is saying that they're not going to just be uh in pc gamers high-end cards, that they're going to move into the processing uh component powers which we talked about this a little bit. Supercomputers were supposed to be taken over the world now, but supercomputers are still based on ones and zeros, whereas Whereas NVIDIA's chipset is not based on ones and zeros, it's based on if and then statements, so they have a whole different process.

Nathan Mum:

That's like basic. Well, like, if then? So, if this happens, then this if this happens, remember basic.

Nathan Mum:

Yeah, and and and the, the coprocessors for your supercomputers are all based on, like the Intel models, which are ones and zeros that it has to process and break down. So Nvidia is messaging. That, they said, is that we are going to make tools for researchers, scientists and students, that they're going to be able to use our tools for anybody that stumbles across us that either receives a $3,000 an hour for their service or a dollar fifty and is living on instant ramen.

Mike Gorday:

All of those are their customers yeah, I don't know how they're going to do that, because I have you ever. Have you ever watched the discord stream? I have, yeah, some. What are? What are pc gamers doing like 80 to 99.9 percent of the time in a discord? Well, they're always complaining they're whining about something.

Nathan Mum:

Yeah, they're always their computer isn't so. So what I find interesting is they don't have a lack of skill. It's always their computer that has the lack of skill. Yeah, when you get old. When you get older, guess what I just find out? I just am not quick anymore with my uh reflexes. I play games all the time. This, this Tetris battle that.

Mike Gorday:

I do no way.

Nathan Mum:

I'm not quick. Are you admitting? Yes, yeah, it's not my computer. The computer is great, it's the old guy that's trying to move the arrow keys up and down so you don't get on Discord and just whine at everybody, I do not and then get really nasty reply comments.

Mike Gorday:

I do not.

Nathan Mum:

I'll tell you this I think NVIDIA, in the next five to six years, they are going to be the company that sets how AI works. I do Because they're going to be the processors that everybody's are using for AI, and I think they're going to have some control on that. Yeah, okay, well, okay, whatever. All right, let's go to story number two. Mike, what do you have for story number two? This sounds exciting.

Mike Gorday:

Well, I guess the question is if you want to explore deep space, what is one thing you'll need?

Nathan Mum:

To have. Yeah, until we talked about this article, I had no idea. I didn't think this would be an issue.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, but you would think well, I need a cool spaceship, I need to have some. Hydrogen for the engines, maybe hydrogen, I don't know or whatever whatever, I guess you're flying blimps in this space, okay, well, okay, uh, in order for us to explore deep space, people don't think about this, but we're gonna need better clocks. Better clocks, explain that to me.

Mike Gorday:

Well, let's harken back to the early days of exploration in 1714. The Crown of England ran a contest in search of a more accurate clock that sailors could use to navigate while at sea. Today, scientists are facing a similar problem for outer space. Every single day, we rely on hundreds of hidden clocks. Okay, Okay, Clock drift okay. And the speed at which the clock is moving can set these clocks very slightly out of sync. This phenomenon is called clock drift. Clock drift okay To control for it. Gps clocks are set to check the time and correct themselves regularly. But in outer space, critical functions like communications and navigation require even greater clock accuracy, down to a billionth of a second or more. That's why atomic physicists at NASA want to build a more precise, more autonomous atomic clock. The team hopes a prototype will be ready late this year to keep a more accurate time. So maybe NASA will change the way we measure our day, so going back.

Mike Gorday:

I'm going to get up at 8 a am and a billionth of two seconds.

Nathan Mum:

Okay, so like in, star trek or track, however you want to start. Yes, okay, let's talk about star trek. Okay, so they always use like star dates, right? So did they come up with? Uh, so it sounds like they came up with a way to do time star date two, three seasons.

Mike Gorday:

So I'm just kind of curious if it never fails, that you will take. You will take this thing and relate it to a fictional show well, hang on, now they have we got.

Nathan Mum:

We got leds that look just like they did on the next generation the stardate is not based on an earth, an earth-centric thing it's based on a a standardized like galactic format. Right, yeah, okay, that's that because right now our clocks are based on the sun right, which is just specifically to our world.

Mike Gorday:

That, yeah, circles around the sun well it, yes, that's where it starts. It starts with that 12 hour cycle of a day to night to day to night. But you know so, tatooine?

Nathan Mum:

isn't on ours. Okay, here we got the star Wars reference.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, yeah All right, but no, I mean we don't think about it. But time time is very important in, especially in space travel, especially when because the faster we go, yeah, the more time dilation occurs, right, so when we start going out in the outer space, if you go out in the outer space and you're on this really fast ship to go to the moon or back and go to the sun or back and go to the outskirts of you could come back and everybody here is dead.

Nathan Mum:

But you knew because it could be just hours and days, because with you.

Mike Gorday:

You've only aged days. It's like in Interstellar. Yeah, there you go.

Nathan Mum:

Everything comes back to movies. Alright, story number three Meta says it will end fact-checking. As Silicon Valley prepares for Trump, meta says it's now going to end fact checking. Ceo Mark Zuckerberg announced last week that the social media company, which owns Facebook and Instagram, would stop working with third party fact checking organizations, repeatedly taking points long used by president elect Donald Trump and his allies in a video. Zuckerberg said the company's content moderation approach resulted too often in censorship.

Nathan Mum:

Zuckerberg said his view on content moderations have changed. He's getting older. I guess Meta has made too many mistakes in how it applied its content policies, he said, and pointed Trump's election to a second term as a cultural tipping point towards once again prioritizing speech. So now we're going to go back to our roots, he said, focusing on reducing mistakes, simplifying our process and restoring free expression on our platforms. Zuckerberg is among the tech titans who have traveled to Mar-a-Lago to meet with Trump since the election, and Meta donated a million dollars to his inauguration fund, including Amazon, apple and OpenAI. Meta clearly perceives a great deal of political risk of being targeted, and Zuckerberg presented the announcement and timing of this to play into the Republican audience. Now this is also interesting.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, I have a feeling this has to do more about like things like blue sky coming into the frame and taking, so let's ask people away from these. So guess what?

Nathan Mum:

they had an additional 1.3 million users sign up after facebook made this announcements. They are now the third largest social media platform out there, with no advertising other than people saying they're not going to do this, they're not going to do this, and blue Sky says that they will continue to use third-party fact checkers.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, well, you know. So Zuckerberg and Elon.

Nathan Mum:

Musk are both going to use the same exact AI technology on each of their platforms, so it will be unified in how they distinguish between fact and fiction. Yeah, whatever, does that make you feel safe?

Speaker 7:

You know, no, no.

Mike Gorday:

I think they're choking and they're trying to figure out how to not choke anymore.

Marc Gregoire:

Okay.

Mike Gorday:

Because it's just going to turn into an S show.

Nathan Mum:

Yeah, okay, you're going to save Odie from the dump button there.

Mike Gorday:

No, today I'll save her from the dump button there. No, okay, today I'll save her from the dump button.

Nathan Mum:

Okay, all right, I think you have our last story. What do we have coming up here at?

Mike Gorday:

the very end. Yeah, you gave me another AI story.

Nathan Mum:

Oh, you love AI, right yeah.

Mike Gorday:

I love it.

Nathan Mum:

Okay.

Mike Gorday:

What do we? Okay, grok, yeah, the ai assistant for x, which is baked into x is now available as a standalone app, so you can now use it just like you can now use it like, yeah, you can chat, chat, gpt it.

Nathan Mum:

I use this last night. Yeah, this is not a good, this is not okay. Keep on going, keep on going, okay, spoiler, sorry, spoiler. Here we go, keep on going like the on going. Whoa, whoa, whoa. How is it that you're talking? Smack about it. Sorry, sorry, spoiler. Here we go, keep on going.

Mike Gorday:

Like the version that exists as a tab on a social media platform, the Grok app can be used to generate images, summarize text and answer questions. This time with a controversial tone the AI assistance creator calls humorous and engaging. The app was first tested with a limited set of users in December. Just last year, right around the same time, x debuted a free tier of Grok that's available to everyone. Prior to that, you needed to pay at least $8 a month for X premium to have the privilege of using the AI. The limitations of that free access is 10 requests every 2 hours. 3 images analysis requests per day may also apply to the Grok app.

Mike Gorday:

You can use the app without signing in, or sign in with an Apple account, x account, google account or a plain old email. It's not clear whether an X premium subscription gets you added benefits in the Grok app in the same way it does X. Same way it does X. Grok has struggled with similar issues around accuracy and bizarre image generation choices as other AI assistants like Gemini and ChatGPT. The chatbot mainly stands out from its competitors because XAI pitched it as being able to answer spicy questions other AI assistants avoid, and the version of Grok AI model is open source, you'll have to see for yourself how spicy the grok app ultimately is, but at least you don't have to go to x to use it now.

Nathan Mum:

Okay, so wow see part of this. So this, this app has? No, they have. They have no guardrails at all on this no kidding, I was putting stuff in there, that is not that is not PG-13 on the radio type of deal and it was coming out with the items and then suggestion even of more spicier ideas to talk about.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, yeah, no kidding.

Nathan Mum:

Yeah, there you go.

Mike Gorday:

What kind of expectations do we have for somebody who has ripped and torn and doing the same thing, I guess, as Zuckerberg is thinking about doing now?

Nathan Mum:

So I guess now we're going to have this AI app that has some guardrails, which will probably be OpenAI which is funny, because I would not have thought that they would be the ones with guardrails and then they're going to have all these other apps, that kind of suck and so what they're going to do is they're going to take off the limits to again we kind of talked about this to increase their audience.

Mike Gorday:

This is that really interesting argument about what constitutes free speech and what doesn't, and I don't know I hate it. I think they're all Wow wow, wow, all right.

Nathan Mum:

Well, that ends our top technology stories of the week. Moving on Gwen Way is up with our gadgets and gear segment with a product that is part Optimus stories of the week. Moving on Gwen Wei is up with our gadgets and gear segment with a product that is part Optimus Prime and part relaxation. What is it? Gwen will share this on our next segment. You're listening to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. See you after the commercial break.

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Nathan Mum:

Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. Our weekly show covers the top technology subjects without any political agenda. We verify the facts and we do it with a sense of humor, in less than 60 minutes and, of course, a little whiskey on the side. Today, mark Gregoire, our whiskey god of sewer, is back and he has the first month tradition gone to come back to do what we are doing, standard wise for our taste today.

Speaker 5:

I was.

Nathan Mum:

Well, we were just trying to re-add the next February. You want to join us for? Didn't you like last week's? I mean, that was a lot of alcohol, right.

Mike Gorday:

I was fine. Okay, there you go. You drank more than I did.

Nathan Mum:

I did drink a lot. All right, with our first whiskey tasting complete, let's move on to our feed. Whoa whoa, whoa whoa.

Marc Gregoire:

Mark, what are we tasting? We're here drinking today, sagamore Spirits Double Oak Rye Whiskey. Now from Sagamore Spirits' website. What they say is, after aging their straight rye whiskey for four to five years in high-char New American oak barrels, the distillers transfer the aged whiskeys into toasted wave stave barrels for an additional 18 months. This increased service area of the low char, medium plus toast stays imparts double oaks, delightful caramel, toffee hazelnut and toasted coconut. Classic maryland style rye whiskey is reimagined through the innovative aging process and then proof with limestone filtered water from their spring house built in 1909. The final spirit is a shining example of old meeting new. So on the palate, they say, you get smooth caramel, rich toasted coconut, nutty flavor of hazelnut and pecan melded pecan, pecan pecan.

Marc Gregoire:

Melded perfectly with vanilla and caramel All right. Tomato tomato, Tomato tomato, All right Okay.

Nathan Mum:

Well, thank you so much Well. I already moved. Is this on your shelf at home?

Marc Gregoire:

Oh, I can't answer that I'll tell later.

Mike Gorday:

Why are you asking questions like that?

Marc Gregoire:

I'm just kind of curious. Okay, all right, well okay, Now this is from Serona Holding, who owns Sagamore Spirits. It's distilled in Indiana, which means it's MGP juice, but it's aged at Sagamore Spirits at their place in Maryland. It's a straight rye, four to five years. It is 96.6 proof. It's a blend of high and low rye, mash bills um, and its price is 64.

Nathan Mum:

Okay so it's a standard price, is it? Anything under 70 is kind of like standard price. Right, 70 to 50, is that standard?

Mike Gorday:

that sounds more like the the nathan, the nathan line of cheapness.

Nathan Mum:

Well, Well, so hang on. So I have 75 to like 50 is kind of like the Nathan Premier. And then you got the 50 to like 35. That's like the mid-level. And then you got the 35 under, which is the Nathan cheap level. Which is the Nathan. That's the one I share with my guests that come on over.

Marc Gregoire:

I give you the no Average price of whiskey for a person. It depends on what a person can afford and what they like. Okay, just like the best whiskey is the whiskey that's currently in your glass. Oh, there you go.

Nathan Mum:

All right.

Speaker 4:

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Marc Gregoire:

In addition, please comment. Let us know if there's a whiskey you want us to review.

Speaker 1:

What's new in our gadgets?

Marc Gregoire:

Oh, wow.

Nathan Mum:

Odie's Wow, all right, I'm done.

Marc Gregoire:

Heaven single weight, so drink responsibly. Bye.

Mike Gorday:

Thank you, Gwen. You just got the equivalent of a finger wave.

Nathan Mum:

Odie was like uh-oh, let's move on, All right. Well, with our first whiskey tasting completed, let's move on to our feature segment. Today we have Gwen Wei joining the show. She's an expert in cybersecurity during the day and a game board geek in the evening, as well as our producer of Tech Time Radio. But of course, we know her as our Gadgets and Gear gal. Let's get ready to start our Comcast video stream for our next segment, Gadgets and Gear.

Speaker 1:

What's new in our Gadgets and Gear.

Nathan Mum:

All right, Gwen. Welcome back to the show. Now for all the new listeners, tell us a little bit about yourself.

Gwen Way:

Certainly, I am a person who spent the last quarter of a century I'm just leaning into it now working in technology. Right now, my focus is in cybersecurity.

Nathan Mum:

Okay, cybersecurity, and you just got your company you worked for just got acquired. Is that correct?

Gwen Way:

Yep, we had a big merger. There's a lot of big announcements, so if anybody is so inclined, go take a look at what WatchGuard has been up to for the last week.

Nathan Mum:

All right. So she's saying she's now working for WatchGuard. That's good. You know what? I think? Watchguard is a company. We use them. We use their firewalls pretty extensively and I like their products, so I would trust their cybersecurity much better than FireEye or any of those other ones out there that say that they're great and they're not. So there you go, a little plug for your company there. All right, gwen, but let's talk a little bit about this gadget again. Now let me just tell you I uh, up front, I have ordered already one of these chairs and I'm on the fence between the second chair.

Nathan Mum:

So, uh, tell us what this is. What's cool about this? Cause this really got me excited and and to the point where I probably did way more research than I have in any gadgets and gear segment in the last couple of years.

Gwen Way:

I mean, this is a great one. This is one that everybody, no matter how geeky or how non-geeky you are, can enjoy. The name of the product is the Neutral spelled N-E-W-T-R-A-L Freedom X Multi-position chair. I love that you talked about the transformers earlier, because this chair genuinely transforms and you're able to sit in it multiple different ways. Don't know about the listeners, but as a kid, I used to sit backwards in my chair all the time and kind of lean forward and read a book. Well, this chair lets you do that with your laptop, so that's a good thing.

Nathan Mum:

All right, so this, so this is available on Kickstarter, right? So what is the name of this? Again, so everybody can get this on the radio.

Gwen Way:

It's neutral. Spelled N E W T R A L freedom X multi-position chair. It's actually from a company that has been around for quite a while. They do fairly standard gaming chairs as well, but this is a new offering that they're throwing up on Kickstarter.

Nathan Mum:

Okay, now tell us a little bit about what makes this chair special, besides kind of what you told about backwards. What else makes this chair special? How much is this unit, and are there more than one type of chair for this? About backwards what else makes this chair special? How much is this unit, and are there more than one type of chair?

Gwen Way:

for this? Certainly, certainly. So. The thing that makes this the most special is that you can actually change how your chair functions and how you sit in it. Rather than the normal arms that just lift up, these will actually fall out so that you can sit cross-legged in the chair. If you've got a dog or a cat who just really wants to be glued to your side, you can push one arm down and they can actually sit in that, or you can kind of lounge on it if you want. It's all kinds of positions, and I have a feeling that if you get this chair, you can find the one that's right for you.

Nathan Mum:

So so there were yeah, yeah, I absolutely so the side part. So I'm a weird guy, cause I actually like sleep sitting yes, you are, so I, so I sleep sitting up. So I'm looking at this like this can be like multifunction. It looks like your bed. This could be like your lounging chair. I was looking at this being like, ah, this is so awesome. There's like a deals on the side, and my big concern is I'm a little bit of a heavier guy and so I checked it out and I know that when we were talking about this for the show, I was worried that if I started to open up and these transformer arms on the left and right and made this kind of into the couch format, that I would break it. So what is the weight requirements that they have for a chair like this?

Gwen Way:

They have tested this chair up to 330 pounds.

Nathan Mum:

Okay, so 300 plus pounds, yep, so I mean, so you're good, I'm good, I'm right on that, I'm right on that.

Marc Gregoire:

Right on the cusp. You can't just fold the cusp, you can't just fold it out, and we can't sit together though uh well exactly only one at a time for right

Nathan Mum:

now, but if I buy two of them, so tell us what type of? There's two different type of selections here, gwen. What are the two different options that you get on the transformer chair?

Gwen Way:

so your two options are a vegan leather so pleather and a stain-resistant fabric. Right now there's still some super early bird of the vegan leather available.

Nathan Mum:

How much are those going for?

Gwen Way:

You can get those for $199, which is phenomenal.

Nathan Mum:

That's a steal of a deal. Most gaming chairs are like $300, the decent ones.

Gwen Way:

Exactly exactly. Most gaming chairs are like 300 bucks, the decent ones, exactly exactly uh. Unfortunately, all the super early birds for the fabric are done. But oh nice, well done, because, yeah, at this point, with the actual uh fabric chair, you would end up paying 259, which is still a steal.

Nathan Mum:

Still a good price. It's still a good price. I got in just lucky enough last night, just in time, so I was ready to go before they changed it on over. All right, so now, where's this company located? Because that's always a question, right? What I'm really happy about is this is like a legit company. Where are they located at, and tell us a little bit more about the company backing this?

Gwen Way:

They are located out of Massachusetts, gore, maine. Like I said earlier, neutral has been on the net selling chairs for quite some time. You can actually go to their website and order some of their older chairs, which are just kind of the standard gaming chairs. You can also order a couple of other things, like a desk that you can lock onto the gaming chair's arm so that you can work on your laptop pretty much wherever you can roll the chair.

Nathan Mum:

Okay, all right, All right. Now the biggest question. I said I got one I'm so excited about this.

Mike Gorday:

I don't think anybody's surprised by that.

Nathan Mum:

Well, did you get one yet, mike? No, you need to get the pleather one, but I never knew.

Mike Gorday:

What does that mean? The vegan leather that's a nice way. Why do I need?

Nathan Mum:

to get the pleather one? Well, because you need to have the. This is the chair.

Mike Gorday:

Is that what you're saying. Wow, I didn't say that.

Nathan Mum:

I just said that you need to make sure you get a chair here. So, gwen, did you get one? That's the question.

Gwen Way:

No, I did not get one, I got two.

Nathan Mum:

Oh, did you get two of the fabrics? Yep, oh, maybe you were the last person. One for each of us. There you go.

Gwen Way:

That's possible. It it's either you or me, Nathan.

Nathan Mum:

There you go. We got the last of that. We smashed those up there you go. Well, I see how you guys roll.

Marc Gregoire:

You take the last of them and then you talk about it on the radio after Well that way, more people then finance it, so that we make it even better.

Nathan Mum:

Yeah.

Mike Gorday:

Nathan is the reason Kickstarter is still going, because he buys everything. So I did.

Nathan Mum:

You remember the Lou, the Lou L-O-O-I that you had about. I just got mine in the mail, so I'm excited to open this up.

Marc Gregoire:

I have not opened this up. Is that one where you finally get a friend? No, I haven't.

Mike Gorday:

That's a little desktop one that runs around. Yeah, that's a little desktop that goes back and forth, and then it smiles and it gives you a mini-me.

Nathan Mum:

I have the Luma. L seems to be the name for robots, so I got the Luma in my office here too, so you know I enjoy it.

Mike Gorday:

Do you do anything with it? Yeah, or do you just sit on the charging station looking sad?

Nathan Mum:

No, no, no, I walk around with it and I shake hands, and then it does like fireworks and it'll follow me around, and then I'll ignore it for a while. And then I'll ignore it for a while and then I kick it in the head and then it starts yelping at me, just like every other pet I have Never mind.

Marc Gregoire:

That gave me trouble. Do you put little clothes? I do.

Mike Gorday:

I don't know if we want to get any deeper in the secret life of Nathan, but thanks.

Nathan Mum:

All right, gwen, thank you so much for coming on the show. I can't wait to see what you have now. Next week's show you're going to have to tune into because we got CES and there is so much gadget stuff there that we're going to be talking about. There are some crazy things. They got animated robots that sit in your purse. They have this. We're going to be talking about the best of the best and the weirdest, so we're going to do the best of the best first and then the weirdest.

Gwen Way:

I kind of think the weirdest is actually more intriguing now that I'm getting into, so you're going to definitely want to make sure you turn into that tell oh, I will be here tell everybody, uh, where they can learn more information about you if they wanted to connect with you and talk with you directly certainly the easiest and quickest way to connect with me is to hop on to either facebook and join the Tech Timers Facebook group.

Mike Gorday:

There you go.

Gwen Way:

Or just go to techtimeradiocom.

Nathan Mum:

There you go. That works out perfectly. That's the best place. That's the best place. I agree too. It really is. Gwen, thank you so much for coming on the show. It's always a pleasure to have you with your new gadgets. Bye, gwen, thank you so much. Bye, thank you so much. All right, we want to thank Gwen for being a part of the show and I can't wait forward to next month's gadget. But that ends our gadgets and gear segment up. Next we have, of course, mike's mesmerizing moment. Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment. What does Mike have to say today? All right, mr Gordy, speaking about clocks in your segment that you did earlier, this has me really thinking. Why are clocks and ticking noises of clocks considered soothing to?

Mike Gorday:

people what. What do you mean?

Nathan Mum:

soothing. Well, it's known that clocks are used to help relax people. The metrodome sound of the tick-tock tick-tock helps relax people, so I'm just why is clocks considered soothing to people?

Mike Gorday:

Well, I think it depends on the type of clock Okay, because if you're talking about, like, the 60-minute stopwatch, it's like tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. That's usually associated more with anxiety and stuff like that. But if you're talking about the swinging arm of the old grandfather clock that probably not too many people know about these days, that can be considered soothing because there's a phenomenon that happens where it's called entrainment Okay, phenomenon that happens where it's called entrainment Okay, where our brain brain waves synchronize with the metronomics sound of the, the ticks. So if it's a slow ticking phenomenon but clock like a swing arm clock, it could slow your brain waves down so that you're actually calmer.

Nathan Mum:

Okay. Yeah, I'm not talking about a digital clock, right? So, like our digital clock up there, that's not going to give you anything but clocks in.

Mike Gorday:

America are mostly associated with anxiety nowadays.

Nathan Mum:

Are they really.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, yeah. I mean, we're always, we're very time-oriented and everything has to be fast and everything has to be. You have to be on time and you're always rushing and there's always like this, fighting as the clock. So clocks in general are associated more with anxiety.

Nathan Mum:

Than soothing. Okay, yeah, okay. Well, there you go. All right, mike, thanks for that mesmerizing moment. Up next we have this Week in Technology, so now would be a great time to enjoy a little whiskey on the side, as we're going to be doing so. During the break, you're listening to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm. See you in a few minutes, hey, mike. Yeah, what's up?

Mike Gorday:

Hey, so you know what like our show if you really like us, we could use your support on Patreoncom. I think it's Patreon. If you really like us, you can like us on. Patreoncom. I butcher the English language.

Nathan Mum:

You know you butcher the English language all the time it's. Patreoncom. Patreoncom.

Mike Gorday:

If you really like our show, you can subscribe to Patreoncom and help us out and you can visit us on that Facebook platform.

Nathan Mum:

You know, the one that Zuckerberg owns, the one that we always bag on. Yeah, we're on Facebook too. Yeah, like us on Facebook. Do you know what our Facebook page is? Tech Time Radio.

Mike Gorday:

At Tech.

Nathan Mum:

Time Radio. You know what.

Mike Gorday:

There's a trend here. It seems to be that there's a trend, and that's Tech Time Radio, or you can even Instagram with us and that's at Tech Time Radio.

Nathan Mum:

That's at Tech Time Radio. Or you can find us on TikTok and it's Tech Time Radio. It's at Tech Time Radio.

Mike Gorday:

Like and subscribe to our social media Like us today we need you to like us. Like us and subscribe.

Nathan Mum:

That's it. That's it. It's that simple.

Speaker 1:

And and now let's look back at this week in technology.

Nathan Mum:

All right, we're going back to January 17th 1984. The Supreme Court ruling on home VCR recordings comes out. The US Supreme Court. What is Gregoire doing over the corner?

Mike Gorday:

He's like trying to get out of the picture frame.

Nathan Mum:

Is he trying to get out of the screen? He's leaning up against the wall, yeah he's experiencing studio, studio wall foam okay, the supreme court rules five to four.

Nathan Mum:

The private use home vcrs, the tape tv programs for later viewing, does not violate federal copyright laws. This ruling opens the floodgate for vcr sales, changing the landscape of tv watching forever. Now we wouldn't have, uh, digital video recorders. The DVR system would not be in place if this ruling would have happened. Right, because the idea of a digital video recording device is that you record something to watch it later. Now in the ruling, making individual copies of complete television shows for purpose of time shifting, which means you'd watch it later, does not constitute copyright infringement but can instead be defended as fair use. The court also ruled that the manufacturers of home video recording device, such as the time, betamax and other vcrs referred to as vtrs in the case, cannot be liable for contributing to this infringement. The case was a boon to the home video market. It created an illegal safe harbor for this technology to record.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, except with the FBI warning that you had to have all the time $50,000, fine.

Nathan Mum:

I would just remember so my early marriage, my poor wife. We would have to tape Star Trek, the Next Generation, and every once in a while you would have that power outage that would go on and then all of a sudden your VCR was no longer programmed, because these were not easy recording machines. And I remember every once in a while coming on home and we would not have gotten that episode and you couldn't just stream, you couldn't find it online.

Mike Gorday:

You'd have to wait for a whole. Today's technology is awesome.

Nathan Mum:

I know You'd have to wait for the whole rerun of that episode and then record everything until that rerun came back up to get that the days before the internet were brutal.

Mike Gorday:

I know I don't know how he survived.

Nathan Mum:

Oh my gosh, that's right horrible that was this week in technology. Have you ever wanted to watch some tech time history, with over 220 plus weekly broadcasts spanning now on your six, a video, podcast and blog information? You can visit us at techtimeradiocom to watch our older shows. We're going to take a commercial break. When we return, we have Mark's mobile whiskey reveal. See you after the break.

Speaker 7:

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Speaker 1:

The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's Whiskey Mumble.

Nathan Mum:

You've got to admit, that is a cool intro.

Marc Gregoire:

I love it. I love it, I sing every time.

Mike Gorday:

He's all relaxed now because he was hugging the wall. Mark doesn't deal with clocks, he deals with foam. He cuddles foam.

Nathan Mum:

Just because you went and looked at the Grok AI type of deal.

Mike Gorday:

I didn't look at it. You were the one that spent how long Tell us about our whiskey? I didn't look at it.

Nathan Mum:

You were the one that spent how long, never mind, tell us about our whiskey.

Marc Gregoire:

How about January 14th? We've been dropping hints throughout the show today about what today is.

Speaker 5:

Okay, what is today?

Marc Gregoire:

Gwen dropped a little bit and I continued it.

Mike Gorday:

What was that? Why is that little doggy barking on the phone?

Nathan Mum:

Was that a dog barking it?

Mike Gorday:

was.

Nathan Mum:

What was that dog for?

Marc Gregoire:

It is National Dress Up your Pet Day. What was that? Was that a dog?

Nathan Mum:

barking. It was, what was that dog? For it is national meme day, national dress up your pet day. Oh, so my robots are just in, you know what, I'm gonna take my, my, my buddy robot right here, pat, and I'm gonna dress it up there you go, celebrated by dress.

Marc Gregoire:

celebrate today by dressing up your furry family member in comfortable pet clothing. Maybe even get matching outfits.

Mike Gorday:

Oh, you know I come from a very southern background where dressing means a whole different thing. Okay, All right.

Nathan Mum:

Does it mean like food? Is that what you mean?

Mike Gorday:

Yeah To have food with your dog Apple in the mouth, kind of thing.

Marc Gregoire:

All right, now who's the devil I mean angel responsible for this holiday? Okay, national Dress Up your Pet Day was started in 2009 by celebrity pets, lifestyle expert and animal behaviorist Colleen Page. Oh, okay, there you go.

Nathan Mum:

I don't have a clue who Colleen Page is, but okay, thank you very much.

Mike Gorday:

Give one of those dog whisperer people on them shows. Is it On them? Tv flicks oh TV.

Nathan Mum:

Can I record it on my VCR? Probably Okay, all right.

Marc Gregoire:

All right, let's talk about Maryland. Okay, now Maryland has a rich whiskey history, particularly as a hub for rye whiskey, known for its smoother and slightly sweet profile compared to the spicier style of Pennsylvania. Now, prohibition devastated the industry, but in recent years Maryland has experienced revival, with craft distilleries such as Sagamore Spirit reintroducing Maryland-style rye and experimenting with new blends. Now this resurgence, supported by modern legislation, has positioned Maryland as a key player in the craft whiskey movement, blending tradition and innovation. All right, now I really enjoy Sagamore Spirit Rise. I love the cast strength in their single barrels. For this double oak it's like dressing up your pet Unnecessary and takes away from the natural charm. Oh, this whiskey is not for my palate. As soon as I leave here today I'll be giving this bottle away. Really, I am not a fan of almost any double oak whiskey as it often overpowers the original character with excessive woodiness masking the balance and complexity of the spirit. Curious if anyone here even gives this a thumbs up.

Mike Gorday:

I'm kind of on the fence right now I like the second and third taste so far.

Marc Gregoire:

And here's the proof for me. I didn't even pour myself any today.

Mike Gorday:

Oh, you didn't even pour it Clean glass.

Nathan Mum:

So it is kind of it does have a different taste and it doesn't have a big bite, which I mean I don't like a big bite, but then it kind of sticks. The finish just doesn't go away either. It's like lingering and still lingering and still lingering.

Marc Gregoire:

So this one, I'm not going to say this is I wouldn't I'm not a thumbs down, thumbs up like you guys, but I wouldn't necessarily give this a thumbs down, but it's not a thumbs up for me. It's a good whiskey, if you like that type of flavor profile Like. This bottle is going to Whiskey Chris after it.

Mike Gorday:

He loves this bottle, that's too bad, because I kind of like it too.

Marc Gregoire:

Well, you can go buy it at the store for $64.

Nathan Mum:

$64,. There you go. Well, whiskey and technology are great pairings, just like headlights and windshield wipers, both needed and required for a vehicle, and if one is not working, it is illegal, just like our next segment.

Marc Gregoire:

I was hoping you were going to use seatbelt.

Mike Gorday:

All right, no, no.

Nathan Mum:

He has, he like reaches. Let's prepare for our technology fail of the week. We are out of time. Congratulations, you're a failure.

Speaker 5:

Oh, I failed. Did I yes, did I yes, did I.

Nathan Mum:

Yes, alright. Well, this kind of goes back to some old 80s uh comedy flicks. When we kind of think about this, we're gonna be talking about a failure that comes to us from a software company the most of the public school districts use now. Power school hack exposed students, teachers data from k through 12 districts, making it easy to change an F into an A War games All right. Education software giant PowerSchool has confirmed it has suffered a cybersecurity incident. We call those hacks that allowed a threat actor to steal the personal information of students and teachers from the school districts that use PowerSchool SIS platform, which is over 60 million students that use this and over 180 customers worldwide. This is 18,000.

Nathan Mum:

Or 18,000, sorry, 18,000 customers worldwide, so this is in the 70% of all school districts. Use this software. All right Now. Powerschool is a cloud-based software solution provider for the K through 12 school districts. It uses its platform to help with enrollment, communication, attendance, staff management, learning systems, analytics, finance and, of course, to help keep those grades on track. And this is cybersecurity incident notification sent to customers Tuesday afternoon. Powerschool says they first became aware of the breach on December 28th 2024, after the PowerSchool SIS customer information was stolen through its PowerSource customer platform. Now PowerSchool SIS is a student again information to manage all the enrollment and items that run your everyday school.

Nathan Mum:

After the investigation of the incident, it was determined that threat actor gained access to the portal using compromised credentials and stole data using an export data manager customer support tool. So in this tool they have an export data. The person got credentials from somebody, so they probably did a phishing attempt, which we talk about all the time to do that, then got the login logged in and they just went into school after school after school and just started exporting the data. Should have been caught. Something like that has to trigger in any software cloud system that you have. Should have triggered an alert by the time you do two or three exports.

Nathan Mum:

Microsoft is so good with this. If you start using their Office 365 suite and you start exporting email, you start deleting a bunch of email, you start doing anything kind of fishy, it will send alerts to the admin saying, hey, you got an issue going on. But now PowerSource contains that the maintenance access tool that allows the access for engineers wasn't really the issue, but it was the credentials. Using this tool, the attacker exported again all the information into a CSV file, which is like an Excel file, which was then stolen.

Marc Gregoire:

Did the company come out and say nothing important was taken. Well, yeah, we're going to get there.

Nathan Mum:

Powerschool has confirmed that the stolen data primarily contains content details such as name and addresses, so it's not a big deal, you don't have to worry about it. However, some districts said that it also included social security numbers, personal identifiable information, medical information and, of course, the grades. So it depends on how much you use it. So I guess if you use it to its full extent, you're probably in more jeopardy than if you just use it as an ancillary product. In response to the incident, the company engaged with a third party cybersecurity experts, including CloudStrike, which is not FireEye, so that's okay to investigate and mitigate the incident, and an unusual, transparent FAQ allowed accessible information to customers to know what was going on. Powerschool, though, has confirmed that this is not what they considered a ransomware attack, which is true because they just stole the credentials, but they did pay a ransom to prevent the data from being released. When asked how much was paid to the threat actors, the comment given the situation and sensitivity of the investigation, we are unable to provide information on certain specifics. Quote unquote the company said they received a video showing that the data was deleted. Oh my gosh. Okay, here you go. Do you know how simple it is to have two databases. You copy one to one machine and you videotape it, and then you copy one to a USB drive and you have it as another one. Pretty freaking simple.

Nathan Mum:

But they say that they have a video that shows all the data was deleted. There's never 100% guarantee that it was, but they believe all of this will no longer be available and they are monitoring the dark web to determine if the data has been leaked in the future. All right, so what does no good? So, as soon as that data comes back up on the dark web, what are you going to say? Unless they have an escrow, the only thing I could think of is they have an escrow over months that they pay out additional money that is released in an escrow fund on the dark web that, based upon certain areas of you didn't have the data. You didn't have the data, which is probably what they negotiated, but still, that that's just until certain things need to be taken care of. Run out power. School says its operations remain unaffected and services continue as usual, despite the breach.

Marc Gregoire:

So did they change their password? I hope they did, I hope they wrote it on.

Mike Gorday:

They wrote it on a piece of paper. It's a keyboard password.

Nathan Mum:

One, two, three, all right. Well, we're going to go and head out to our last commercial break. When we return, we have the Nathan nugget of the week.

Mike Gorday:

And, of course, our pick of the day back. Raise the glass. You're listening to tech time radio with nathan mum. How to see a man about a dog. It combines darkly comic short stories, powerful poems and pulp fiction prose to create a heartbreaking and hilarious journey readers will not soon forget. Read how to see a man about a dog. Collected writings for free with kindle unlimited ebook available. Onle print copies available on Amazon, the Bookpository and more.

Nathan Mum:

This is your Nugget of the Week. All right, welcome back to our Nugget Now 10 technologies that disappeared in 2024. Will you miss them? As the saying goes, nothing lasts forever. All right, so we're going to go through this list. You're going to tell me, everybody here around the table, if you're happy that we no longer have these services, or are you sad? Are you good riddance, even that you didn't need these? We'll start with number one, icq, the original messaging app. It was popular in the late 90s, found memories of this before AOL instant messenger. Days before any of the messenger services that are available, I had an ICQ number. It was essentially a name and a number that was associated with your ICQ. Are you sad that ICQ is gone?

Marc Gregoire:

I don't care. You don't care. All right, I thought they were gone before.

Nathan Mum:

Okay, all right, nody you probably.

Marc Gregoire:

What the hell is that?

Nathan Mum:

All right AMD Link, used by streamers to send video from their graphic cards to their smartphones, being discontinued because there are other third-party options that are available. Amd Link had no idea this even existed. Excited this is gone, or can care less.

Marc Gregoire:

No, I don't care.

Nathan Mum:

I don't care Care less, care, less, care, less, all right. Number three Twitch Watch Party, a feature that allowed you to watch Amazon Prime videos with your friends. Now that, since we are post-pandemic lockdown, they are no longer doing any updates and this will be removed. Yeah, I don't care. You don't care.

Speaker 4:

I kind of care.

Nathan Mum:

Yeah, I kind of I don't know why you're going to get rid of this feature if you already have it programmed in your software.

Marc Gregoire:

We struggle enough with connections and being in each other's lives. Yeah, and that was a little benefit. Yeah, it was a benefit.

Mike Gorday:

I tried watching a movie on this when we were in the pandemic and there was a time differential, so what I was viewing was a few minutes or seconds behind what they were viewing and it was somebody who was talking a lot about the movie so she basically was spoiling the show.

Nathan Mum:

Oh, that was a great special effect. Oh, there it is.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, this sucks.

Marc Gregoire:

Technology gets better, so that was the infancy.

Mike Gorday:

That's the idea, right, you should.

Nathan Mum:

HoloLens. This is the Microsoft product. There's a lot of these Microsoft products. The AR headset we talked about a big splash. It was the virtual reality set. Way too expensive, way too niche product. Are you excited or could care less? Hololens.

Marc Gregoire:

I don't care, I don't care.

Nathan Mum:

Don't care, don't care, all right, once promising to take over MS Paint into the third dimension, I wrote an article we talked about this even celebrating its arrival. It is now no longer available and you still have just the standard MS Paint. Darn it. Are you sad about that? Yeah, I don't care, you don't care.

Marc Gregoire:

I'm glad it's gone. Okay, I'm glad it's gone. I started opening it up in 3D Paint and so, finally, I put my default back to Paint.

Nathan Mum:

I like Paint better than 3D, yeah, ms Paint, just leave it real basic. If I need to use a real basic editor. For some graphics, MS Paint works.

Mike Gorday:

Is it because they tried to make you use it? Yeah, that's the issue. See, they don't get it.

Nathan Mum:

Well, no, because it had other features and it had other things and you just just wanted to do like he said, just a, b and c, all right, and 3d refused it, all right. Android on windows. Windows subsystem for android enabled windows 11 devices to run android devices that are no longer there. I don't care, doesn't matter.

Marc Gregoire:

Okay, all right this is how. This is how the microsoft.

Nathan Mum:

The microsoft's pretty good if they get rid of this stuff. If you guys don't care anymore, wordpad, the classic text editing app that sat between notepad and word, is no longer available. Does that make a difference for you guys?

Mike Gorday:

yeah, I care, this greatly saddens me and you know I feel like I need to go home and take a bath with with lavender candles okay, I'll look a mic that it doesn't matter.

Marc Gregoire:

Wordpad actually is a big classic at yeah, but Notepad does a great job, and if you want some more features, get Notepad plus, plus plus. Okay, all right.

Nathan Mum:

Chromecast. After 100 million units sold, the TV streaming device is now discontinued. No, according to Google, smart TVs are now the norm and Chromecast replacement is no longer needed to have your TV streaming experience. Sad or not sad, I don't care. I'm sad because I got eight of these devices. What do I do with these devices laying around the house?

Mike Gorday:

You're going to pack them in a box, like you do everything else that you own.

Nathan Mum:

And then bring it out 20 years from now.

Mike Gorday:

If anybody wants nostalgic stuff, they just need to come to your place and they can view. It's like a museum out there of ancient tech.

Nathan Mum:

I'm working on a 386 computer because I have to reload Windows 98.

Mike Gorday:

right now I'm working on a 386. All right.

Nathan Mum:

VPN by Google.

Speaker 5:

This was the VPN service that we talked about.

Nathan Mum:

Nobody cares. This is where you can use a VPN for Google, but Google gets all the information that you get, nobody cares, all right. Dvd physical media products. Nobody cares, All right. Dvd physical media products. The Apple USB Super Drive is no longer being produced After 16 years of production. Apple's calling it quits on DVDs and CD drives.

Mike Gorday:

How are you going to just skip over DVDs?

Nathan Mum:

Well, dvds are still being done. It's the USB, apple Super Drive, dvd and physical media products. As with the USB Super Drive, I care about that one a lot Okay.

Marc Gregoire:

I don't have an Apple product, so I don't either. I was going to say Mike, you and I are Windows guys.

Nathan Mum:

All right, well, I'm sure glad you guys didn't care about most of the stuff that went.

Marc Gregoire:

They're all gone. Is that all 10?

Nathan Mum:

That is all 10. All right, now let's move on to our pick of the day whiskey tasting.

Speaker 1:

And and. Now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings. Let's see what bubbles to the top.

Marc Gregoire:

We are drinking Sagamore Spirits Double Rye Oak. It is distilled in Indiana but aged in Maryland. It is a straight rye four to five years, 96.6 proof and $64.

Nathan Mum:

I'm actually going to give it a thumbs down why it's just not that great.

Marc Gregoire:

So I had predicted Nathan thumbs down, because a little everything gets too woody and too tan for him, he gives a thumbs down. Mike tends to like the oak bombs, so I'm thinking it's a thumbs up for Mike.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, aside from the initial rye burn, from the initial taste, it was good, all right.

Nathan Mum:

Well, there you go. You're getting pretty good at that prediction, and Chris will enjoy this.

Marc Gregoire:

He's looking forward to it, all right.

Nathan Mum:

Okay, well, you know what we're really excited about being on the show today. We want to thank all of our listeners for joining the program. Listeners, you want to hear us? Check us out at techtimeradiocom on the Be A Caller, ask Us A Technology question. In our TalkBack system, you can always stay connected by going to our website and signing up for our social media groups and you can talk to Gwen From all of us at TechTime Radio. It was an honor to be on the show today with you, as, remember each and every day, the science of tomorrow starts with the technology of today. See you next week Later. Bye-bye.

Speaker 1:

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