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231: Australia To Ban Social Media For Kids Under 16, Then From Pokémon Adventures to Military Tech Nick Explores Your Holiday Security Concerns, and More On the Controversial "Beast Games" | Air Date: 12/1 - 12/7/24

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Can AI really replicate human personalities with 85% accuracy? Discover the latest advancements in artificial intelligence as we welcome cybersecurity expert Nick Espinosa to unravel this fascinating topic. From thought-provoking discussions on AI's potential to revolutionize our social interactions to playful speculations about Vladimir Putin’s AI-assisted appearances, this episode navigates the cutting edge of technology with a touch of humor. We also shine a light on the exciting yet controversial world of Mr. Beast's "Beast Games," delving into the swirling allegations and examining the YouTube sensation's response.

In a world-first move, Australia is banning social media for kids under 16, and we ponder the global implications of this bold decision. Our conversation extends to the intersection of augmented reality and military applications, with Pokémon Go as a surprising focal point. How does a game with 600 million players shape technology's future impact? We explore the vast potential of geospatial data collection, the benefits it brings, and the privacy concerns it raises. Plus, we take a trip down tech memory lane with the pivotal lawsuit involving Apple, Intel, and Microsoft over QuickTime technology.

Celebrate the festive season with us as we highlight some incredible tech finds, like the budget-friendly Asus Chromebook CX1, a practical alternative to pricier laptops. Whether you're a tech enthusiast or just looking for holiday shopping inspiration, we've got you covered. We also touch on Amazon's new Prime Premiere service, bringing the cinema experience home with complimentary perks. As we wrap up the episode, we express our heartfelt gratitude to our listeners and look forward to bringing more engaging tech conversations your way next week.

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Nathan Mumm:

Welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm the show that makes you go hmm. Technology news of the week the show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mumm, your host, and a technologist with over 30 years of technology expertise. Our co-host, mike Roday, is in studio today. He's an award-winning author and a human behavior expert. Now we're live streaming during our show on four of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, twitchtv, facebook and LinkedIn. We encourage you to visit us online at techtimeradiocom and become a Patreon supporter at patreoncom forward slash techtimeradio. We are friends from different backgrounds, but we bring the best technology show possible weekly for our family, friends and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have Odi, our producer, at the control panel today. Welcome everyone. Let's start today's show now on today's show all right.

Nathan Mumm:

today on tech time with nathan, mr beast is in the spotlight again, and this time he's defending his upcoming game show, beast games, against some serious allegations that we've talked about previously here. He claims the accusations have been blown way out of proportion, but what's the real story behind the scenes? And then TikTok and Meta are bracing for the fallout from Australia's new social media ban on children under the age of 16. So this is going to be very interesting. They got a whole ban going on. How will this impact the social media landscape across other nations? Australia is kind of the big leader in this idea, so we're going to see how this is making a ripple effect across other nations.

Nathan Mumm:

Next, our guest Nick Espinosa from Security Fanatics is back for some holiday cheer. And could a navigation app be held responsible for a user getting into an accident? We explore these questions and more. And finally, have you heard of the MacBook alternative that's 10 times cheaper? We got the scoop on that too. On our Nathan Nugget of the week. In addition, of course, we have our standard features, including Mike's mesmerizing moment, our technology fail of the week, a possible Nathan Nugget and, of course, our pick of the day whiskey tasting. The CFR selected whiskey pick gets zero, one or two thumbs up at the end of the show. Now, though, it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology.

Speaker 1:

Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, collectors are going to collect, but a company backed by Bitcoin is changing how investors view cryptocurrency. Let's go to Corrine Westland for more on this story.

Speaker 4:

Michael Saylor, executive chairman of MicroStrategy, is one of the greatest Bitcoin communicators of all time. His presentations are legendary because they lay out a clear case as to why Bitcoin is a capital asset in a class all its own. Microstrategy is a business intelligence firm founded in the 1990s. It survived the tech bubble of 2000 and continues to develop B2B analytics tools to this day, Even though it has an operational software business. The value of MSTR is mostly concentrated in its Bitcoin treasury. Is Bitcoin the holy grail of currency currency?

Nathan Mumm:

back to you guys in the studio all right, there's a lot to unpack here, mike, so let's take an overview of what micro strategy does and why it's our lead story. Okay, in 2013, ceo micro sailor uh was an avid person that said bitcoin would fail, but in 2020, he's become a Bitcoin believer and began adding it to MicroStrategy's treasure. He believes that including Bitcoin on the company's balance sheet will give it an advantage over long-term other companies' financial sheets, since Bitcoin tends to appreciate on long timescales and carries low cost and general business risk. After the announcement of this new strategy, investors began buying shares of MSTR for various reasons, but mainly they wanted to buy because of all the Bitcoin that the company owns in itself. By signing up, you receive a free newsletter, you get updates about Forbes and affiliate offerings, and you get MicroStrategy's investment on all of the Bitcoin they're accumulating.

Nathan Mumm:

Now. Microstrategy is considered the largest Bitcoin holder in the world at this time. The entire thesis of this goes by saying that they know that Bitcoin will appreciate by 25% per year on an average, and then the MicroStrategy's company's idea is to borrow money at a lower analyzed interest rate and then wait for the appreciation of Bitcoin to pop to make their money. So let's talk a little bit about this. This is a company, mike, that is investing on their ledger for their company and buying Bitcoin, and Bitcoin is skyrocketing right now. Predictions were that it would be at $100,000 by the end of the year and there is a possibility it could pop that before the last 60 days at the end of this month. Here, as we have things coming on, is it safe for a company to have a corporate balance that is based on cryptocurrency money? What is your thought on that?

Mike Gorday:

Why do you want to ask me about whether or not it's Well?

Nathan Mumm:

I mean, would you trust in a company that is banking all their money on a cryptocurrency?

Mike Gorday:

No, Okay, I wouldn't, but then again, I'm not a tech genius. Okay, perhaps there is something that I'm missing.

Nathan Mumm:

So the idea is to buy investments into this company and then you are not necessarily buying Bitcoin, but you're buying all their investments. Yeah well, you're buying that. They have all this Bitcoin and it's a part of their balance sheet for their stock symbol. That's going there. Have you ever heard of micro strategy?

Nathan Mumm:

I've never heard of them, yeah, so this is the only thing about them so this is like they are like the trendy, trendy company right now to invest in and see, that's what you just said is why I would have a problem okay, trendy. You don't like the trendy trend?

Mike Gorday:

remember nfts uh, yeah, we talked about nfts when they came out. We played, we talked about NFTs when they came out. We played around with NFTs when they came out, and then we ultimately decided that NFTs weren't going to be as big of a thing.

Nathan Mumm:

Yep, yep.

Speaker 6:

And what happened.

Mike Gorday:

Well, NFTs are still there, but they're just not at the same level of people using them. They're nowhere near.

Nathan Mumm:

That is correct, right? Yep, that's correct.

Mike Gorday:

All right, let's then again, bitcoin has been around for a while it has been around for a while.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Now let's move on to story number two oh, this is my favorite, okay, uh.

Mike Gorday:

tiktok and meta brace for an australian social media ban fallout. Children under 16 were being barred from the popular social media site. The law threatens to upend the business model of some of the world's most valuable companies as they face a global backlash against problems blamed on their services. Australia's controversial new law barring under-16s from social media is one of the toughest crackdowns yet on platforms including Facebook and TikTok, as governments worldwide grasp for ways to protect children from harmful content. The blanket ban, which was passed late Thursday night, establishes some of the most stringent Internet usage restrictions outside of China and other non-democratic regimes that could provide impetus to other governments to act. From Florida and Texas to France and the UK, authorities have attempted or are considering raising social media age limits or tightening content oversight. Lurking behind this debate and driving the change are the dark corners of social media that continue to extract a tragic soul, like this 16-year-old with a social media account filled with videos about hopelessness and death who stepped in front of a train in Bayport, new York, or the 15-year-old Australian schoolgirl or hang yourself from a tree at home in February 2022 after suffering years of social bullying. While Australia's ban is wildly popular with voters 77% support the move, according to a survey. It has unleashed a maelstrom of criticism from big tech. Of course, major operators include Meta Platforms Inc. Say the rules are ineffective or flawed, while X, owned by self-styled free speech absolutist Elon Musk, question whether the ban is lawful. That's a twist, heralding a possible court challenge. Under the new law, which will take effect in around 12 months, digital platforms including Snapchat, instagram and X, will be responsible for enforcing the age limit, with penalties of as much as $32 million for breaches. However, it is still unclear how the platforms will verify ages, with the government already ruling out the use of official documents such as passports, due to privacy. Kids who find a way past verification controls won't be fined, or will their parents. The law also threatens to upend the business model of some of the world's most valuable companies, as they face a global backlash against the problem based blamed on their services, such as increasing mental health issues, online scams, lower academic performance and grooming. A successful ban would deprive them of a key user group millions of teenagers who are coveted by advertisers and who the companies want to lock in to age. The statement Metis said, while it will respect the law, it was concerned about the process which rushed the legislation through, while failing to properly consider the evidence. What industry already does to ensure age-appropriate experience in the voices of young people already does to ensure age-appropriate experience in the voices of young people. One of the biggest weaknesses of a ban on young people is that it doesn't curb the production of harmful content.

Mike Gorday:

Lisa Given, a professor of information sciences at RMIT University in Melbourne, says that platform owners should focus on disabling negative algorithms which can overwhelm social media users with content whether they like it or not. At the same time, there should be more investment in digital literacy for children and parents. She said that this legislation is really ill-conceived. It's a simple proposed fix for something that's actually really complicated. And where did the 16 come from? It was like it was just pulled out of the air, perhaps inevitably.

Mike Gorday:

Almost all the largest social media companies, including TikTok, sex and Meta, which owns Facebook and Instagram, expressed concerns about the law in submissions to a truncated inquiry before the bill passed. Tiktok, which is owned by China's ByteDance Limited, said the legislation was rushed and unworkable and riddled with unanswered questions and unresolved concerns. Snapchat owner Snap Inc said previous international attempts at broad and mandatory age verification has failed. X said it has serious concerns to the lawfulness of the bill. Of course, france has a renewed push to keep under-15s off of social media. Politico reported that this week the UK Secretary of State for Science and Technology, peter Kyle Kyle, has been in contact with the Australian government to learn more about his ban and his reasoning. Kyle said he's not ruling out a ban in the future, but any measures must be found in evidence. We've talked about this before Yep.

Marc Gregoire:

Yeah.

Mike Gorday:

Now it's becoming a reality, all right.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, there we go, there you go. So do you think that there should be a ban on 16 and under?

Mike Gorday:

I don't know if that's going to help, but this is obviously a response to the continued problems that social media continues to put out there. We have children suffering. Well, have uh, children suffer not well, not just children, I think I, I think most people suffer. We have children suffering from problems surrounding this thing, and these companies are not doing enough to take care of it, because they're the future.

Marc Gregoire:

Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

All right.

Mike Gorday:

All about the money.

Nathan Mumm:

It's about the money. We'll see what happens to the social media because, as they continue to have these spread across, I think it's going to be interesting to see the other countries take into an effect that they want to put in a 16 and ban, and then, essentially, you're creating two different markets for social media. Right, you're going to have a market that's the teenage market and you're going to have a market that's the adult market. So maybe there are different apps, maybe there are different platforms.

Mike Gorday:

Well, it yeah, it, but it the. The main problem is how do you figure out if the person that's using your services?

Nathan Mumm:

is the right age.

Mike Gorday:

The right age yeah, yeah and that's always going to be the problem. Person that's using your services is the right age. The right age, yeah, yeah, and that's always going to be the problem and that's always how teenagers find ways around it. That's it. It has a built in failure mechanism. That I don't know. That a ban is going to make any difference. It's going to make any difference, okay.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, let's move on to story number three. Mr Beast says game show allegations are blown way out of proportion. Mr Beast has claimed he has footage showing the allegations that his reality show was same, shamelessly exploited and contestants are blowing everything out of proportion. The YouTuber's real name, of course, is Jimmy Donaldson. Mr Pillow said something like that didn't he?

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Released a teaser for Beast Games on Monday, announced that it would be released next month. In September, amazon and Mr Beast were named in a US lawsuit which made a number of claims on how participants were treated on set. The Amazon series promised to be the biggest live game show in the world, with 1,000 people competing in a series of elimination challenges for $5 million cash prize. Now he hasn't formally came on out and said what they're going to do regarding the allegations, but he says that there's tons of behind the scenes droppings when the show does not know what's going on and it has been absolutely blown out of proportions with these claims. You just can't release anything nowadays because if he did, it would spoil the games. So he says that because of their games coming on out, the reality show that after that, they'll take care of the claims yeah sure, why not show before, cares if it spoils, well, well I I

Mike Gorday:

have a real big problem with okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, so keep going. You don't like? Mr Beast Survivor does this, I mean Big Brother does this, all this reality TV.

Mike Gorday:

I don't like any of these. Okay, I've followed this particular story. It just seems to pop up quite a bit. There you go, okay, so you know I'm not a real big fan of of these young people whose brains aren't even fully developed making millions and millions of dollars and then defending themselves when they're irresponsible all right.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, he says that we will see what happens. Um, after the show comes on out and all these other allegations. So we're going to see what happens. So the show comes on out and all these other allegations, so we're going to see what happens.

Mike Gorday:

So they came on it. Everything is fake when it comes to television.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, we have scripted TV. Reality TV is kind of scripted right.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah. But if he's saying that he's got all this stuff behind the scenes and he's going to put it out there, is he going to put it out there carte blanche? Or is he going to put it out there carte blanche or is he going to edit whatever he wants people to do?

Nathan Mumm:

that's the problem, I'm sure since this big lawsuit, we'll see what happens. All right, story number four streaming services are crumbling. This is something I talked about the beginning of the year on our prediction yeah, we've already talked about crackle, one of the original cord cutting service, just officially shut down all services.

Nathan Mumm:

we can only get a few movies still with the original content, like comedians in cars getting coffee for the next few days or hours. In 2006, sony Pictures Entertainment acquired Grouper for $65 million, recognizing the potential of online video distribution. A year later, grouper was rebranded as Crackle, shifting its focus to become a multi-platform video entertainment network studio. Under Sony's leadership, crackle established itself as a free, ad-supported streaming service offering a library of movies and TV shows. This was a novel concept at the time, as most online video platforms were primarily user-generated content. Crackle made itself different by providing access to Hollywood productions, but putting in commercials. What they didn't know is that all the other streaming services that people paid for would soon follow service and put commercials in their streaming services also.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, so it's going to be the death knell for all these streaming services.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, Crackle joins the ranks of popcorn flicks and red box, which also have closed this year. Redbox was around for 22 years as our video rental boxes at convenience stores. Well, that ends our top technology stories of the week. When we return, Nick Espinosa from Security Fanatics will join us to discuss some scary technology items you should consider over the holidays. Should you be worried? Yes, you should. You're listening to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. We'll be back after this commercial break.

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Nathan Mumm:

Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. Our weekly show covers the top technology subjects without any political agenda. We verify the facts and we do it with a sense of humor, in less than 60 minutes and, of course, with a little whiskey on the side. Today, mark Gregoire, our whiskey connoisseur, is back in studio. So what have you chosen for us today?

Marc Gregoire:

Today, we have Old Overholt Cast Strength 10-Year Rye. Okay, Now from Jim Bean's website introducing Old Overholt Extra Age Cast Strength Rye, an ultra-premium rye whiskey for connoisseurs and collectors, Aged and curated from the top warehouse locations and bottled unfiltered at cast strength. This unique spirit offers an old, overhauled signature spice in a more robust expression Black pepper, cinnamon and baking spices, Also with cherries, green peppercorns, sweet caramel and vanilla. The finish is long lingering rye, spice and vanilla. Now this is from Jim Beam, their distillery in Claremont, Kentucky. The straight rye, 10 years, 121 proof. The mash bill is undisclosed and it goes for $100. Okay.

Mike Gorday:

That's not going to be on Nathan's shelf.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, hang on now. Hang on now. I have, I got Weller's. I got some high stuff out there.

Marc Gregoire:

It's got a huge cork.

Nathan Mumm:

It does have, it does got a big cork. So you know what?

Marc Gregoire:

I didn't know size mattered.

Mike Gorday:

Size does matter. I thought it was just cork.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, you know what, the bigger the cork, the better I guess. Yeah, that's exactly correct.

Marc Gregoire:

All right, what did you guys think of your tasting?

Nathan Mumm:

You know what, during the commercial break, I didn't see we have these, we have these, we have like I like the taste, but it had the rye burn triggers a coffee all right, did you like our little uh?

Nathan Mumm:

did you see our, our shot glasses today? They're very festive. You see that it's got a little snowman on there. You know what it's got everything that we only had two of these, so we had to give uh uh, poor mark his his standard deal. But there you go. I think that it's a smooth taste. There's not a huge bite. Again, I'm kind of the anti-bite guy, right. So if you want to get me something that I really like it and it has a big bite, then then then I'm having problems with this. I kind of like it.

Marc Gregoire:

Is that?

Nathan Mumm:

okay, just a little noble.

Mike Gorday:

Are you ever going to learn them about the bite? What's that? No, are you going to learn about the bite?

Nathan Mumm:

Learn about the bite, all right, okay, well, you know what. We'll have to see more. I can't wait for our mumbles today.

Marc Gregoire:

All right Now don't forget to like and subscribe. In addition, please comment Let us go.

Nathan Mumm:

With our first whiskey tasting completed, let's move on to our feature segment. Today, Our technology expert, Nick Espinosa, is joining the show. Nick's an expert in cybersecurity network infrastructure. He's consulted with clients ranging from small business to the Fortune 100 level. In 1998, at the age of 19, Nick founded Windy City Networks, which was later acquired in 2015. He then created Security Fanatics, where he's the chief security fanatic. We welcome Nick to the Comcast video stream to start our next segment. Did you go out to any of the stores shopping deals?

Nick Espinosa :

Oh no, I stay in my bunker on Black Friday. Absolutely not. We're good to go and and I don't need to get a reduced tv that wasn't actually reduced in price but reduced in features.

Nathan Mumm:

Right. Only one hdmi port instead of two. That's right okay well now. We got lots of things to talk about, nick. I appreciate you, uh, being on our show each and every month. Let's talk about a couple things here. Let let's talk about AI Now. Ai is coming on out the community Place personalities in less time than it takes to watch a movie. So this is getting very intense and some attention was brought to it this week. Give us an update on some of this information regarding the AI.

Nick Espinosa :

Yeah, yeah, so you're 100% right, and apparently basically a two-hour interview is essentially enough to accurately capture your values, preferences, all this kind of stuff. Now, this is research that's coming out of both Google and Google's DeepMind, and Stanford University, and that Stanford team that's leading the charge here recruited 1,000 people, and they tried to make it as diverse as possible. They varied by age, gender, race, religion, education and political ideology as well. They vary by age, gender, race, religion, education and political ideology as well, and so, with those interviews with basically with these people, they then created kind of AI replicas of these individuals, and so, by virtue of that, they then tested these AI counterparts or duplicates of you to see how well they mimicked the human right. So they participated in a whole bunch of different personality tests, social surveys, logic games, et cetera, et cetera, and then they did this twice. So they did it once, and then, a couple of weeks apart, they then did it again, and the interesting part is they found that the AIs were 85% similar to the humans. And so there you go At some point, these things will just be dating for us as well, but the humans. And so there you go, at some point, these things will just be Dayton for us as well.

Nick Espinosa :

But interestingly enough it's not 100%. Don't build the bunkers just yet. Obviously there's a couple of issues with this. The caveats would be this would be amazing to essentially build really accurate, deep fakes to people because it would answer or respond essentially as you. But that said, the evaluation method that they use was pretty basic. They use general social surveys, so it talks about demographics, happiness, behaviors and all of that. But obviously that uniqueness that we would have, let's say, in a split decision, an emergency, all that kind of stuff, it can't really capture that just yet, but it would be good enough to answer emails in my voice or maybe even hop on a zoom meeting, you know, or give a national address or something like that. Uh, having my mannerisms, having my execution and essentially relaying my beliefs, or at least 85 of them, so pretty interesting all right, so there goes under.

Nathan Mumm:

our terrifying 85 is terrifying 85, it's yeah, yeah, so that part of me is going no, this is really cool.

Mike Gorday:

I wonder if I could like do this for all my meetings.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, you can just think about working, right, you just need a.

Mike Gorday:

Zoom. Do my classes for me.

Nathan Mumm:

That's all right. You can just sit back and then you can play.

Mike Gorday:

Play video games until it says something stupid.

Nick Espinosa :

Yeah, grinder, that's what grinder is doing.

Nick Espinosa :

You know the, the gay dating app yeah they basically have a virtual wingman right so it learns all about you. And then your ai talks to your prospective partner's ai and they just hammer it out and it's supposed to flag like if I'm a serial killer, my ai is going to know that and tell other ais I'm a serial killer. Now I won't get dates. And again, at some point the ai is just going to be dating for us and when the robot comes home I'll ask it how it went.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, I'll have my AI contact your AI. That's right, they'll have a whole conversation.

Nathan Mumm:

They'll do meeting notes and then you'll just have action items that your AI can take from there. I think I just swallowed a pill.

Mike Gorday:

Did you Like red or blue? Red or blue?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, okay Now, nick, you kind of served up the volleyball spike here next. So, speaking about AI replacing voices and images, let's talk about Russian's president, vladimir Putin, who appeared to be AI in his latest address to the nation. So this has got the conspiracy guys on one side saying this was absolutely an AI fake. You have other people that are saying, well, you know what? He's had some health issues, so he's doing something. It's very interesting because his tell seems to be moving of his hands. Tell us a little bit more about what's going on with this.

Nick Espinosa :

Yes, yeah, so he has what everybody calls famously restless hands and, for the record, this is one of the reasons why I both enjoy whiskey and scotch, because I watch a lot of Putin videos thanks to the Ukraine war, all this kind of stuff, and he usually does have hand movements and all of that. But he just recently gave an address about a week or so ago to Russia and obviously the world in regards to Russia, launching what is called an IRBM. Basically, it's a short-range ICBM or intercontinental ballistic missile. This is an intermediate-range ballistic missile. These are like world-ending missiles. So it's not good and obviously it wasn't nuclear.

Nick Espinosa :

But he appears to be an AI recreation and if you watch that video, it's about eight minutes long or so.

Nick Espinosa :

It's really interesting because his hands remain basically crossed and completely still when usually he's all over the map, and so you know there were jokes online, as you mentioned, that his hands were super glued and all of that, because it's just very unusual for him. He also doesn't really move around in the video that much. He's pretty stoic and still as he's sitting there talking, and still as he's sitting there talking, it would be pretty easy for somebody to or rather an artificial intelligence, to basically mimic him in that sense. In the same way, you can make an AI look like me, but it's probably not going to be as animated as I would be. And, for the record, there is a belief in the intelligence community that he does suffer from Parkinson's disease. That's obviously a neurological disorder that affects mobility and can create, you know, movement disorders, all that kind of stuff. So maybe he's just having a really bad week, and so ai putin took over and uh, here we are.

Nathan Mumm:

As long as they don't attach it to skynet, I think we'll be okay, but it was an interesting video to watch it was so it can get your personality, but it can't get your expression of your personality yes, well, that's what they were kind of saying if this was the ai fake or a deep fake with uh putin, because his hands weren't moving, his expressions weren't like he normally does.

Mike Gorday:

That's an expression of your personality. Yep, that's probably. That's in the the, not 85 percent of the items that are there.

Nick Espinosa :

That's right right, well, and everybody's different. I mean, I, I use my hands right when I talk, I express, I'm an extrovert, you know, and if I'm here sitting like this and guys, it's been great to see you, and let's talk about AI, putins and all of that, I'm going to start sounding and seeming kind of a little weird. And I'm not on a beach, I don't know.

Nathan Mumm:

You know what, Nick? I have taken a bunch of your YouTube videos and different postings that you've gotten and I do like to mess with some AI stuff. So the next show that we have in here, I'm going to have quotes from you with an AI generated. Maybe we should do a little test to see if you can tell the difference between an?

Mike Gorday:

ai I'm thinking. I'm thinking, if you defake people, you don't tell them, you're faking oh, you don't do that, okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, it's okay, all right, well, okay, well, what's that?

Nick Espinosa :

I was gonna say on the plus side, my attorney get now gets a recording of this, of this radio show okay, okay.

Nathan Mumm:

well, there you go, there you go, there go, so that works out pretty good, all right.

Mike Gorday:

And they got AI too. They got AI too.

Nick Espinosa :

That's right they do.

Nathan Mumm:

Let's talk about video games, right, a popular app that goes around, and it's been around for oh, quite a long time now, because I remember when all the craze came on out, I signed up and played Pokemon.

Marc Gregoire:

Go.

Nathan Mumm:

That's right. Pokemon Go, the popular app, allows people to fight, collect figures and even compete in battles. It sounds like a safe, friendly game for kids and, of course, us larger kids playing this, so I'm sure there's no problems with this application, but yet I am seeing news that there are some concerns. What do we have going on here, nick?

Nick Espinosa :

Yeah, so, to your point, it's been out since 2016. It has about 600 million players and basically we were all training, essentially, that model Now, I didn't play it, but I have friends that played it and so, essentially, niantic, who is the developer of this, and man, this is like 6D chess that they were playing with this. It's actually impressive and terrifying at the same time. So, as they were basically putting you out there in the world to go catch these Pokemon, using augmented reality, you'd hold up your phone and it would obviously take a picture of one of these things in a park or whatever it was, they were actually using all of this data to build a large geospatial model known as a visual positioning system, or VPS. Unlike a GPS that uses dots on a map, visual systems basically take images of locations to start building and mapping those things out. So let's say, for example and this is true that they wanted, let's say, more shots of Central Park in New York. What they would do is they would drop like a rare Pokemon or a rare something that you'd want to get alert everybody in the area that this thing's around, and then everybody would rush and they'd get pictures of like Central Park or whatever it was, and so, by virtue of that, they can build these systems. And so now they're taking all that data and they're selling this as essentially a service you know, for everything, and it has some practical uses for the record, so it can be used for indoor navigation, because they have complete details of, like, a shopping mall or an airport or museum, where then you can integrate that and, as you're walking around, it knows the layout of the land. You obviously can use it for augmented reality. You know through your phone, for directions and all that kind of stuff, because it understands basically where everything is already. You know marketing, accessibility aids as well for visually impaired people, virtual tours.

Nick Espinosa :

But the thing is, though, this thing has a ton of military applications as well. First one would be urban combat, urban pacification, right, I mean precise tracking in an urban environment. If you're fighting, let's say, an insurgency, basically you you're going to understand or rather the soldiers understand, through augmented reality, where they can go. They're going to get a layout of the buildings you know before they even get to the area so they can see. And so if, let's say, something is obstructed or you're going into night vision mode, essentially you've got a much better and more accurate overlay than traditional night vision. Or let's say there's smoke everywhere due to bombing or whatever it is, not to mention unmanned aerial vehicles have much more accurate targeting as a result of this. You know? I mean, I know we're able to like, shoot missiles through windows and stuff, but this just ramps it up to 11 search and rescue operations yeah, go ahead.

Mike Gorday:

This is exactly like learning the map on a pvp video.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right, right, so when you play like a call of duty game or you memorize I'm back I'm really old quake 2. You'd memorize all the maps where the certain locations were. You know where the courtyard was, where the corners you could grapple, so you'd be safe. So it's like memorizing these maps and having those available. You're right, mike.

Nick Espinosa :

Yeah right, right. Well, the training, and that's one of the benefits, the training and rehearsal. You're slapping on VR goggles and you're walking through a virtual city under virtual combat simulation. When you get to the real thing, you're that much more trained, that much more hardened. You know, and so, by virtue of that, the concern here is, you know one, it's probably one of the most unique and massive data mining systems we've ever seen, because it's not just taking this for advertising, like a Facebook would. We can actually train practical examples of this, both inside and outside of the military. So I mean, the applications are almost limitless, providing it's visual.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah.

Nick Espinosa :

I'm glad.

Mike Gorday:

I'm old.

Nathan Mumm:

Santa Claus is coming to town and he can just put on his virtual goggles and know exactly where to put those presents underneath the tree.

Nick Espinosa :

No, no, Santa's going to use a UAV. Santa will just target your house and launch the presents at it.

Nathan Mumm:

There you go with a drone that will drop it and then pick it back up.

Mike Gorday:

I see how you keep going to this real kind of safe-y. Yeah, the nice thing, right? Everybody likes Santa.

Speaker 6:

Claus, Everybody likes Santa Claus, all right, okay, well.

Nathan Mumm:

Wow, wow, wow. All right, Nick, I appreciate you for coming on the show. It's always a pleasure to talk with you. Please tell our listeners how they can connect with you outside of our show.

Nick Espinosa :

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can find me on LinkedIn.

Nathan Mumm:

Blue Sky, I'm of our show yeah, yeah, you can find me on. Uh, you know linkedin.

Mike Gorday:

Uh, you know, blue sky I'm now on blue sky yeah, we're gotten the blue sky too.

Nathan Mumm:

Everybody's on blue sky yeah, they just need to get streaming services to work there, so I can stop my streaming to x and I can move it right into blue sky. I hear it. I hear it yeah, it's coming.

Nick Espinosa :

It's coming, I'm sure it is. But uh, but yeah, I'm on blue sky now, nick a esp. Same with formerly twitter, x, etc, etc. Linkedin. Come say, hi, I'm on Blue Sky now, nick AESP.

Nathan Mumm:

Same with formerly Twitter X, et cetera, et cetera, linkedin. Come say hi, I'm on YouTube as well. Okay, all right. Well, that ends our Ask the Expert with Nick Espinosa.

Nick Espinosa :

Up next we have Mike's mesmerizing moment.

Nathan Mumm:

Thank you, nick for being a part of our show.

Nick Espinosa :

Thanks guys.

Nathan Mumm:

Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment. What does mike have to say today? All right, mike, I'm going to reference your main lead story here. Yeah, do we even need social media anymore? Maybe you should ask me if we ever need. Okay, well, do we ever? Did we ever need social media?

Mike Gorday:

I think social media is a prime example of how a concept is fostered to the general public and, due to how human beings are irresponsible with everything, they just turn it into a very nasty Okay, so I no, I don't think. I don't think we need it. I think it should go away. You think it should go away? Yeah, this this, this thing, this, these things have caused more problems than a lot of other things in our past.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, all right. That's why I thought you'd say that All right. Why did you ask Well, you know, that's out there.

Mike Gorday:

You just wanted to have that mesmerizing moment. Maybe I should talk about Santa Claus.

Nathan Mumm:

Do you like Santa Claus too?

Mike Gorday:

Well humbug.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, thank you, mike, for that mesmerizing moment. Up next we have this Week in Technology, so that would be a great time to enjoy a little whiskey on the side, as we're going to be doing so during the break. You're listening to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumsey in a few minutes. Hey, mike.

Mike Gorday:

Yo, what's up. Hey, so you know what we. We could use your support on Patreoncom. Is it Patreon? I think it's Patreon. Okay, patreon, if you really like us, you can like us in.

Nathan Mumm:

Patreoncom. I butcher the English language. You know, you butcher the English language all the time. It's Patreoncom.

Mike Gorday:

Patreoncom. If you really like our show, you can subscribe to Patreoncom and help us out and you can visit us on that Facebook platform.

Nathan Mumm:

You know, the one that Zuckerberg owns.

Mike Gorday:

The one that we always bag on.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, we're on Facebook too. Yeah, like us on Facebook. Do you know what our Facebook page is? Tech Time Radio. At Tech Time Radio, you know what? There's a trend here.

Mike Gorday:

It seems to be that there's a trend and that's Tech Time Radio, or you can even Instagram with us.

Nathan Mumm:

And that's at Tech Time Radio. That's at Tech Time Radio. Or you can find us on TikTok and it's Tech Time Radio. It's at Tech Time Radio.

Mike Gorday:

Like and subscribe to our social media Like us today, we need you to like us. Like us and subscribe.

Nathan Mumm:

That's it. That's it, it's that simple and now let's look back at this week in technology.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, we're going back to december 6, 1994. Apple sues over quick time. Now apple sues the san francisco canon company, alleging that they helped intel and microsoft steal code developed under contract for quick time for windows. Apple released the first QuickTime for the Macintosh in December of 1991, and they then contracted a company called the San Francisco Canon Company to port QuickTime to Windows in 1992. Oh, guess what happens? In 1993, intel hired though the same San Francisco Canon Company to help them optimize their own video technology, and in 1993, intel and Microsoft combined their efforts to improve video in Windows itself, releasing a version that was significantly improved and roughly matched the quality of QuickTime. Apple discovered the code developed by the San Francisco Canon company for QuickTime was also present in the improved version of the video for Windows, and sued the San Francisco Canon Company in 1994. In 1995, apple expanded the lawsuit to include Intel and Microsoft, claiming that the companies knowingly used the San Francisco Canon Company to help them steal the QuickTime code. It was later revealed that Apple was threatening Microsoft with a multi-billion dollar lawsuit. That was famously settled by Steve Jobs and Bill Gates in 1997. The sentiment is now believed to have helped Apple survive long enough to transform themselves in the 2000s, ushering in the mobile device revolution and the new world of technology.

Nathan Mumm:

That was this week in technology. If you ever wanted to watch some tech Time history, with over 230 weekly broadcasts spanning five plus years of video, podcasts and blog information, you can visit techtimeradiocom to watch our older shows. We're going to take a commercial break. When we return, we have Mark's mumble whiskey review. See you after this break.

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Speaker 1:

The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's Whiskey Mumble.

Marc Gregoire:

Bam bam. All right, gentlemen.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, what do we got for our Whiskey Mumble?

Marc Gregoire:

Well, before we get to that, today is December 3rd. What are we celebrating today?

Nathan Mumm:

There's got to be some type of holiday, but it's not cake, because cake was last time.

Marc Gregoire:

That's correct, but it's something a lot of people do eat on Thanksgiving.

Nathan Mumm:

Pumpkin pie. Is it Turkey Day?

Marc Gregoire:

No, but it's something a lot of people do eat on Thanksgiving Pumpkin pie. Is it turkey day?

Nathan Mumm:

No, Is it mashed potato day?

Marc Gregoire:

No, getting a little closer there.

Nathan Mumm:

Green beans and onions oh, green bean casserole day oh I love green bean casserole with a little bit of onions oh, french onions on top of that.

Mike Gorday:

Oh, you're getting a little way too excited about that Green bean casserole is enjoyed by many Not me, what All over America for its few ingredients. You sounded like totally all for it. Yeah, you don't like green bean casserole, Dave.

Marc Gregoire:

Oh no, I despise it. What Now? It's made by a few ingredients.

Nathan Mumm:

Hang on a second how can you despise green bean casserole?

Marc Gregoire:

It is made by cream of mushroom soup. Okay, which is horrendous.

Nathan Mumm:

That's fantastic by Campbell's.

Marc Gregoire:

Green beans, oh yeah, which could be delicious, but most people use canned.

Nathan Mumm:

No, no, no, you can still use fresh. My wife uses fresh.

Marc Gregoire:

And those weird French fried onions.

Mike Gorday:

Oh yeah, In some areas of the country this is called funeral casserole, Funeral casserole. Yeah, because they bring it for funerals all the time, oh okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, I maybe need to become a funeral crasher then, because I like green bean casseroles.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, you have to probably have to leave Washington, okay.

Marc Gregoire:

Now, this recipe was a game changer on the American food scene that its inventor, dorcas Lillian Bates Riley, is featured in the National Inventors Hall of Fame alongside the likes of Steve Jobs and Walt Disney. Oh, wow, okay, those are good people. I like that.

Mike Gorday:

Just because her name is Dorcas.

Marc Gregoire:

Now a creative pairing idea for you, nathan is old, overhauled spice and herbal flavors which would complement the earthy sweetness of the green bean casserole.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay.

Marc Gregoire:

So this is the perfect one to match with it Okay. So when you go and enjoy, your green bean casserole there you go.

Mike Gorday:

There you go, december 3rd. You're going to be crashing all those funerals with some Old Overholt.

Nathan Mumm:

I may have to just put that in my calendar, as December 3rd is a national holiday for the Green Pole Caster.

Marc Gregoire:

So let's talk about Old Overholt. This is said to be America's oldest continually maintained brand of whiskey since 1810.

Nathan Mumm:

And we've had other versions of this, not this bottle, but we've had.

Marc Gregoire:

We had the old Overhold 114, which is 114 proof.

Nathan Mumm:

And how did? Did I give that a thumbs up, do you remember? Oh, I don't remember that was a long.

Marc Gregoire:

That was years ago. That was years ago. We'll have to look that up.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay.

Marc Gregoire:

I'll look that up at the next commercial break. After World War II, americans turned to clear spirits and Old Overholt soon found itself as the only nationally distributed straight rye whiskey on the market for many years. Old Overholt Cast Strength 10-Year Rye, also sometimes referred to as Old Overholt Extra Age Rye, is the first Cast Strength released from the brands since the 1940s. As a show of recognition for that release, beam released it at the same proof point as it was in the 1940s. Okay Now, my guess, writing this earlier, was that this dram was not for Mike or even possibly Nathan.

Nathan Mumm:

Really that?

Marc Gregoire:

was kind of my early guess. Really, it's a spicy thing. It doesn't have a big kick though it has a strong rye spice to it.

Nathan Mumm:

It has a strong spice, but it doesn't have a huge kick. That goes ooh, but it does. I mean it's still burning in my throat right now. So I mean it's still burning there.

Mike Gorday:

Now, I like a burn. I like a burn. I just don't like that hard. I've thoroughly enjoyed this one. Are you sure you always talk about how the burn doesn't do you good?

Nathan Mumm:

well, well, if I keep on burping up the, the burn later in the day, then that's probably not a good idea.

Mike Gorday:

I'm not sure that's how I think. If you're burping up, burn later in the day, that's not the whiskey.

Marc Gregoire:

Okay, all right, I might have to get some uh, tagamatt or whatever that is okay, as I mentioned, I've been enjoying this a lot, as in fact, i've've been enjoying it so much I almost finished this bottle before I realized it hadn't been on the show yet. Oh wow, so I had to stop drinking it recently. It's robust in that beautiful rye baking spice with a splash of sweetness Makes me want to say mmm.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, okay, all right. Well, thank you so much there. You know what Whiskey and technology are such a great pairing, just like Scrooge and the good old Bah Humbug. For the holiday movies. There's a good pairing. There's a good pairing. That was just for you. How do you think of that pairing? Bah, humbug there you go yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, okay, all right. Now let's prepare for our technology fail of the week, brought to you by Elite Executive Services technology experts to help you out of a technology fail. We are out of time. Congratulations, you're a failure.

Marc Gregoire:

Oh, I failed. Did I yes, did I yes, did I.

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, all right, I'm going to have both of you guys kind of chime in on this. Can a navigation app be held responsible if a user gets into an accident?

Mike Gorday:

I think we talked about this before.

Nathan Mumm:

We have, but there's a new thing that just happened. There's the question that's being asked in India After three men died when their car veered off an unfinished bridge and fell into a riverbed. The three men were on their way to a wedding when the accident took place. Police are still investigating the accident, which took place on Sunday, but they believe that Google Maps led the group to take the route that ended in their.

Marc Gregoire:

I mean, it's not funny that they passed away, but that's the exact scene from the office, yeah.

Mike Gorday:

They drove into a lake.

Marc Gregoire:

Right right off a bridge that would have been out.

Nathan Mumm:

That is true, as part of the bridge had reportedly collapsed earlier this year because of floods, and while locals knew this and avoided the bridge, the three men were not aware of this and were outside the area. There was no barricades or signboards indicating the bridge was unfinished. Okay, that's a problem. Well, there you go. Authorities have named four engineers from the state's road department and an unnamed official from Google Maps in the police complaint on charges of homicide. So Google Maps is now listed as a homicide attack for these individuals. A spokesman from Google said that it was cooperating with the investigation individuals. A spokesman from Google said that it was cooperating with the investigation. The tragic accident was a highlight into India's poor road infrastructure and sparked a debate on whether navigation apps like Google Maps share responsibilities for such accidents. Some blame the app for not providing accurate information, while others urge that it's just a larger failure on the part of the government for not porting off the place. That was no longer a bridge.

Marc Gregoire:

I'm in the latter part.

Nathan Mumm:

You're in the latter part there, okay. Google Maps is the most popular navigation app in India and has become synonymous with GPS systems and satellite-based radio navigation systems. Lawyers are divided on whether GPS apps can be held legally responsible for road accidents, but say drivers should keep all eyes on the road, as map services are not as accurate as the road you are driving on.

Marc Gregoire:

I mean let's take a step back, because we all remember the Thompson maps that we used to have in our cars. I mean, those didn't have live data and if you ran into a problem you just had to watch where you're going.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, you would actually maybe look ahead of the road and see where you're driving.

Mike Gorday:

The difference here is that it wasn't a moment-by-moment update. You're not looking at that. I understand where you're coming from, but when you look at a map like the old maps- yeah, remember the old Thomas maps. You were committing to memory something that you were going to rely on for reference. Uh and? But with google maps, we? We don't rely on them for reference, we rely on them for accuracy, which that's but, that is a problem.

Nathan Mumm:

I mean you gotta be. This whole thing is, as a driver of a vehicle, you have to know what's going on in the road ahead of you. I don't know how. I mean this is very sad, but then I almost chuckle in some aspects. So you're not paying any attention to the road that you're driving on.

Mike Gorday:

If you're going over a bridge, isn't there going to be an issue with that? Well, hold on, hold on. The government didn't put signs out that the bridge was not finished so clearly. That's a. That's a. That's. The huge problem here is that there was no actual road signs that say, hey, this bridge is out, don't go this way.

Nick Espinosa :

There's that, but also what time of day was it?

Nathan Mumm:

oh, I didn't say because, oh, you're trying to say like at night yeah, at night you can't really see that well unless you've got your high beams on okay you know, okay, you know, I didn't think of that. I was thinking it was like high noon and they're driving out to some wedding on that type of deal.

Mike Gorday:

But, odie, that's a good point of view, this is a very complicated issue. I think there is some responsibility for Google to make sure that it's keeping up to date.

Nathan Mumm:

It's a free map, though I disagree. I think it's keeping up to date. It's a free map, though I disagree, but at the same time, how is Google going to know that a bridge got washed out?

Mike Gorday:

Well, how does Google Maps know that there's a cop coming up in like four minutes?

Nathan Mumm:

Because they use Waves data. People report that.

Mike Gorday:

They're using so that data should be available for a bridge going out. But then again, like I said, this is a complicated issue. It's obvious that the government is mostly responsible for this problem, because they didn't stop people from driving, they didn't put signs up.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay. Well, there you go, All right. Well, that was our technology fail of the week. We're going to head out now to our last commercial break. When we return, we have a possible. Of course we do, a nathan nugget and, of course, our pick of the day. So sit back, raise a glass. You're listening to tech time radio with nathan mum how to see a man about a dog.

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This is your nugget of the week.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. So I was stuck with her. I had like five nuggets in the week and I ended up picking this one because it's the holidays, so this is kind of like a deal for you, do you? Do you like the Mac book? What if I could get you a unit that looks like a Mac book and it's 10 times cheaper? Would that interest you, mike? Oh, a little bit of this, I think. All right. Asus Chromebook is available for just $158, and it has nothing to do with a Mac, but other than this look, so it looks like a Mac?

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, it does so. If you go to techtimeradiocom right now and you look on the nugget, you can see a picture of it. This is like an old version of a MacBook that they have into a Chromebook. Now, finding a budget laptop doesn't have to compromise the quality when you find a good Chromebook and desktop doesn't have to compromise the quality when you find a good Chromebook and there's available on the market one right now for the holiday season that's on sale.

Nathan Mumm:

It's the Asus CX1. It's a rather stylish, affordable option that allows you to do everyday tasks Well. It may not be like the older generation MacBooks, which it's not. It does offer some good features and an astonishing low price during the black Friday sales of 109 bucks, but it's still moved up right now to 158 bucks and still is a great deal. Now it's powered by the Intel Celeron N 4500 processor for smooth processing. It's a U S military grade stability, so it means you can like huck this against the wall and it'll still work. Um, that's what I want to want well. Well, you know what? As you know, I can see your technology challenges and if you get frustrated, this will still probably work after a couple throws.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, this is. It's lightweight and ultra portable at just 3.24 pounds. The cx1 model is a 14 inch full hd display with resolution of 1920 by 1080 pixels, and the screen delivers sharp images and bright colors. The laptop also boosts a lightweight design at just 3.24 pounds. It's also easy to carry around and it features 180-degree lay-flat hinge that allows for flexible viewing angles for easier collaboration during group projects or presentations. There you go, wow, okay. The connectivity option also promises to be successful with two usb 3.2 generation, one typec ports, two usb type a ports, an sd card reader, a 3.5 millimeter headphone jack. Battery life is crucial. This lasts up to 12 hours on a single charge. When how?

Mike Gorday:

much memory is in this um.

Nathan Mumm:

So it's based on the sd card reader memory that you can put in there and it also has the 64 gig that comes built into the unit itself, so it's all remember. It's flash memory, kind of like your phone, because it doesn't have a hard drive.

Marc Gregoire:

It's a chromebook yeah, make sure to stress that to the users it is not a laptop it is not like a macbook, I'm sorry it's well it's a chromebook.

Nathan Mumm:

So it's a chromebook, but if you are, you cruising the internet it's like a.

Marc Gregoire:

It's like a big.

Nathan Mumm:

You're not watching crackle anymore because that's not available, but if you're watching netflix, it'll do just fine for that right. Well, I can't be playing video games on this well oh, can you, or can you not? Have you taken a look at what Steam has options for Chromebook? I have no idea Okay well so you can play games Can.

Mike Gorday:

I.

Marc Gregoire:

It's a big tablet, can I?

Mike Gorday:

do my presentation on a Chromebook? Yeah, you can.

Nathan Mumm:

So if you've got an all cloud-based Office 365, you pull up your presentation in PowerPoint and it's ready to go.

Marc Gregoire:

Well, you'd use the cloud-based apps. I may have to reconsider that.

Mike Gorday:

Something I can do all my work on and throw at people that makes a perfect gift for Mr Bah Humbug over here.

Marc Gregoire:

Bah.

Nathan Mumm:

Humbug. All right. Well, that was our Nathan Nugget of the day. Can't wait for our next Nathan Nugget, because I had like three or four kickstarter things that I was working on also. All right. And have you guys heard of this? Uh, new prime service that's available that allows you to go to crackle. Uh, no, no, crackles no longer available. But it's a new prime service that allows you to go and see free movie theaters. This is just coming on out right now. It's called prime premiere from amazon. So I'm going to kind of go into my what I was going to do next time is this another level of prime members?

Nathan Mumm:

no, no, no, this already comes with your existing prime membership. It allows you to go see upcoming movies in the theaters and you don't have to pay for anything. The tickets are free and, on top of it, guess what it comes with? It comes with popcorn and a drink for free. So so, as a Prime member, you're going to get the opportunity to go see Prime movies.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, so Amazon is fixing to take out all the AMC movie theater apps.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, if you could go to a movie theater. Here's what you get All guests will enjoy a small popcorn, a small soda or water. At the theater of your Prime tickets, you can bring one guest. It costs absolutely nothing. All you have to do is be a prime member. This is like going to be huge.

Mike Gorday:

Do you get to watch whatever movie?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, no, no, no you have to watch the prime movies. So these are the movies that are also going to be sold on price. So you know Netflix has exclusive movies that come on out. Yeah, these are just for Netflix.

Mike Gorday:

Low budget Amazon Prime movies.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, but some of the Prime movies have been pretty good lately. Did you like Fallout? Oh yeah, the TV show.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, that's a Prime deal, yeah but that's not a movie, that's a series.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, what if you could go see the Lord of the Rings, the Power of the Rings, in the movie theater? Nope, no, okay, I would be all over that. Here's what we have coming up On April 26th we have Challengers, and on August 23rd of next year already, they have Blink Twice. There you go. All right, it sounds like our music is playing so we need to head out to our pick of the day.

Marc Gregoire:

We are drinking. Old Overholt Cast Strength Tenar Rye. It is 121 proof. $100. $100.

Nathan Mumm:

I'm going to give it a thumbs up. What are you going to give it here, Mr Gorday?

Mike Gorday:

I'm going to give it a thumbs up.

Marc Gregoire:

You're going to give it a thumbs up also. I thought I was going to get two thumbs down this week. No, no, no, well I was going to get two thumbs down this week.

Mike Gorday:

No, no, no. Well, as you know, I'm getting a little bit more Of a palate.

Nathan Mumm:

A rye palate.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, so the rye burn was not, or the spice was just enough to not be bad, oh just enough not to be bad.

Nathan Mumm:

I thought it was really good and at the price point. I may not have it on my shelf, but the best thing about it is I can come over and see it Good, because I'm bringing it back to mine, even though it's got a big cork. All right. We want to thank all of our listeners for listening to our show today. We want to see you next week and remember the science of tomorrow starts with the technology of today.

Mike Gorday:

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