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227: Unraveling Tech Giant Issues with Intel and 23andMe. We Look at OpenAI's Bold Venture in Search. Our Famous Segment LETTERS is Back Sharing New Phishing Scams, and then the Impact of Android | Air Date: 11/3 - 11/9/24

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Get ready to explore the ever-evolving world of technology with TechTime Radio with Nathan Mumm. Discover the inner workings of tech giants like 23andMe and Intel as they navigate leadership changes and financial challenges. We'll unravel the fascinating dynamics at play with OpenAI's bold venture, aiming to rival Google with a new ChatGPT feature while integrating with Apple’s Siri. This week, we also shine a light on Netflix's content shake-up and the unsettling misuse of DocuSign's API in scams, providing listeners with essential tips to protect themselves.

The drama doesn’t stop there! We're diving into a world of email phishing scams, where we expose a sneaky attempt targeting Coinbase users. With Mark Gregoire as our whiskey tasting guide, we take a humorous yet informative sidestep into the world of Barrel Craft Spirits' single barrel bourbon. As we savor the taste, we also tackle the serious subject of data privacy, dissecting the precarious financial situation of Intel and the murmurs of a potential merger with AMD. These discussions underscore the pressing need for vigilance and data protection in our interconnected world.

Finally, we'll take you on a nostalgic journey through tech history, celebrating the impact of Android since its debut on November 5th, 2007. While touching on American football traditions, we critique the ongoing security vulnerabilities at DocuSign, questioning their response effectiveness. Amidst the tech insights and discussions, rest assured you'll enjoy our signature blend of wit and wisdom. Whether you're a tech aficionado or just love a good story, this episode promises to entertain and enlighten.

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Nathan Mumm:

Welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm the show that makes you go hmm. Technology news of the week the show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mumm, your host and technologist, with over 30 years of technology expertise. Our co-host, mike Rodea, is in studio today. He's an award-winning author and a human behavior expert.

Nathan Mumm:

Now we're live streaming you and our show on four of the most popular platforms, including YouTube and Twitch TV, facebook, linkedin and we have added X back again. So there you go Elon Musk and all of his craziness. We're giving him some money so you can see us on that. Now, if you like our show, we ask you to become a Patreon supporter at patreoncom forward slash tech time radio. We're friends from different backgrounds, but we bring the best technology show possible weekly for our family, friends and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have ODR producer at the control panel today. Welcome everyone. Let's start today's show.

Speaker 1:

Now on today's show.

Nathan Mumm:

Today on Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. Buckle up as we dive into the latest technology news and stories. Here's what we have coming up on the show today. Today we have a lineup of topics that are going to keep you hooked better than Peter Pan we got. The 23andMe is in trouble, and we explore the challenges they're currently facing. We explore the possibilities of a major shakeup in the tech industry involving AMD and Intel.

Nathan Mumm:

Openai has something up its sleeves that could change how we use AI, and a new feature for chat, gpt. Meanwhile, netflix is changing its content lineup, which may surprise you. We also look at DocuScience API being misused unexpectedly to actually cause scamming issues. And then, of course, we're going to talk a little bit about the Google launch. There's a special date and time today that we're going to be talking about on that Plus. If you have an iPhone 14, you're going to want to stay tuned because we have something that can save you money and fix your phone.

Nathan Mumm:

In our feature segment letters, we're going to dive into the most bizarre emails I received this week, from dubious scans to clever phishing attempts and outright mistruths disguised as legitimate emails. As we break them down and have a good laugh, we're learning how to spot these digital traps. In addition, we have our technology standard features, including Mike's mesmerizing moment, our technology fail of the week, a possible Nathan nugget and, of course, our pick of the day whiskey taste and to see if our selected whiskey pick gets zero, one or two thumbs up at the end of the show. But now it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology.

Speaker 1:

Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Openai is rolling out a web search feature for ChatGPT to take over the search market, and soon Apple users will be able to integrate OpenAI's ChatGPT into Siri. Let's go to Corrine Westland for more on this story.

Speaker 4:

OpenAI takes the fight to Google as ChatGPT search begins to roll out. The ChatGPT search lets users converse with its AI to find quick, relevant information for their query. The feature also displays a Sources button so users can fact check the AI or learn more about a subject. The idea is that you will replace using Google's main search page and instead start using ChatGPT's new search. Can someone replace Google? Sam Altman is trying to do something many companies have tried before and have failed. Back to you in the studio.

Nathan Mumm:

Tried before and have failed Back to you in the studio. All right, let's talk about Apple, all right. First off, it's reported that Apple isn't paying Sam Altman a dime, but rather giving exposure soon for Apple users, who are going to be able to integrate with OpenAI's ChatGPT in December when the iOS 18.2 rolls out, which should supercharge Siri and a few other features with Smart AI. Now ChatGPT has a new search engine function. Users are able to type something into the text box and click a little blue search button and then artificial intelligence will automatically search the web If you have questions. It will then highlight those questions, call and ask for more information, but also provide you the links of each of those items and where the sources are getting its information, so that you can then click on the links, pretty much like what Bing has done. Are you familiar with the chat GPT Bing search?

Mike Gorday:

Mike, yes, I occasionally use that?

Nathan Mumm:

Do you use it? Yes, and what do you think about it? You still have the search on the left and you kind of have the chat gpt window that opens on the right. You like that, or?

Mike Gorday:

uh, I'm not believing that I'm gonna say this, but I like using it better than google, because google sends me to a bunch of freaking ads and yeah, yeah, uh, when I query the, what is it called? The co-pilot?

Ody:

yep that's exactly when I query the co-pilot.

Mike Gorday:

It gives me the answer, although it is obnoxious in the way that it, like, asks follow-up questions. Yeah, like. Would you like more information? No, it's like how do you like playing that game? Would you like to know more about it, or something like that? I'm like I don't want to converse with you, I just want an answer to my question. You just okay, okay.

Speaker 4:

I get it.

Nathan Mumm:

Just answer the question.

Mike Gorday:

Answer the effing question.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, okay. Well, this is what AI is trying to do. They are trying to replace Google Search and you know what? If anybody's got a chance to do it, I think OpenAI has a shot. We're going to bring Mark back in for our Whiskey Mumble. He's played with it. He's not the biggest, I think, fan of that. We're going to ask him what he liked and didn't like about that also. All right, but now let's go on.

Mike Gorday:

Well, I'm pretty sure that as time goes on, it will start throwing up more stupid stuff. I don't know.

Nathan Mumm:

I think it's going to be pretty good because you're paying for it, right? So people are paying to use their service so that you get their money. Uh well, you don't.

Mike Gorday:

But if you're using bing to use it, bing and microsoft have paid to use the service and incorporate it so yeah, but as soon as, as soon as somebody figures out how to monetize advertisements, it's going to start doing that instead and then it responds to you and says, yeah, it's going to say, hey, this is where you can find this information.

Nathan Mumm:

Go to toilet paper. Go to.

Mike Gorday:

Amazoncom, and here you can buy all kinds of toilet paper.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, let's see what Odie has for story number two.

Ody:

Netflix is delisting all but four of its interactive titles by December 1st. The streaming service kicked off its foray into interactive titles in 2017, and there was a time when Netflix was putting out a new interactive special every few months or so, but it's been over a year since the last one dropped in 2023. It's a pity because the most recent title, choose Love, finally delivered on the dating sim potential of these interactives. However, come december, choose love will be removed from the platform, along with my other favorite interactive titles like barbie, epic road trip, you versus wild out cold, the best of the bear girls themed interactives and escape the undertaker, which surprised me and how interested it made me in the wwe lore.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, is this a choose your adventure thing? These are like Netflix movies.

Ody:

Have you done that on Netflix at?

Mike Gorday:

all. No, I don't have a Netflix.

Ody:

No, this was way back when. This has been going on since 2017.

Mike Gorday:

So these are like interactive stories. I have never heard of this before.

Ody:

Really.

Mike Gorday:

No.

Nathan Mumm:

It was kind of a big deal. So they have a whole studio. Netflix came on out with the choose your own adventure. You watch a scene and then it kind of gives you two options with the remote and you hit up or down and you can choose between different items. So seriously yeah yeah, it's like it's doing a whole interactive uh how does I know about this?

Mike Gorday:

because you're like the king of choose your adventure crap oh, I do like those oh, I love choose your own adventures. He's the king of choose your own. Choose your Own Adventure.

Nathan Mumm:

I got the very first Choose your Own Adventures when I was a little kid.

Mike Gorday:

Don't start.

Ody:

So if you ever wanted to help Barbie achieve her dreams, or if you'd like to get a slightly amnesiac Bear Grylls out of the wilderness. You should load up on these titles sooner rather than later. The only four titles that will remain are Black Mirror, bandersnatch, unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. Kimmy vs the Reverend, ranvir vs the Wild with Bear Grylls and you vs Wild.

Mike Gorday:

Oh see, barbie doesn't need any help.

Ody:

This doesn't mean that Netflix is doing away entirely with interactive titles tied to their existing franchises. Netflix has an official visual novel app called Netflix Stories, in the line of episode and choices stories you play, and it's exclusively built around their shows.

Mike Gorday:

I feel like this would be really too much of a pain in the neck to sit there and be clicking. Some of them are kind of fun.

Ody:

When Black Mirror was really big I did the Black Mirror Bandersnatch and I enjoyed that a little bit.

Nathan Mumm:

There was like three or four that I did and I enjoyed all of them.

Ody:

Did you do the Bear Grylls one I did not do the Bear Grylls one.

Nathan Mumm:

I did the cartoon. There was a cartoon one that I did.

Ody:

Jurassic Park.

Speaker 1:

No, there was another cartoon with a fox. There was some type of fox.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, with a fox you're trying to escape With.

Ody:

Netflix. Yeah, with Netflix.

Nathan Mumm:

That interactive one in there and I think it didn't do too well, so they removed it, it was kind of cartoonish. And then I did the other what is it? The rom-com one, the original one that came on out. I forget the name of it, but I did two of them and I thought they were pretty good I feel like that's more of like a VR thing, though that shouldn't be something that a studio focuses on.

Ody:

I don't want you, don't think so. No.

Mike Gorday:

No, no See, that takes the whole. That's a game. That takes everything away from the reason why you watch a movie. You watch a movie so you don't have to do anything. You just watch the movie and veg out, edge out. You know you don't watch it, so you can go oh, click, click, let's do this, and well?

Ody:

okay, let's make them. Let's make barbie go over here instead over there see, I disagree with that because if I could put myself into like the star wars universe and then have my own choose adventure that way, I'd love to do that but I don't want to have you.

Nathan Mumm:

Have you played? Have you played the new outlaw star wars outlaw?

Ody:

no, but I want to specifically play a star wars game you know I want.

Mike Gorday:

Why do we want it? Why do we want a video movie game?

Ody:

exactly. I don't think, I don't think netflix did it the correct.

Nathan Mumm:

So then you can choose. If you shoot it first, I could be like console first man.

Mike Gorday:

Do I choose there's no doubt first, or do I wait till you question on on that? On shot first, all right okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, so are you a big netflix subscriber od not, lately okay?

Ody:

what have you been watching? I've been watching a lot of prime lately. Okay, well, so are you a big Netflix subscriber-ody.

Nathan Mumm:

Not lately. Okay, what have you been watching? I've been watching a lot of Prime lately.

Ody:

You know what I've been watching, what the only thing that Netflix got me back on was because they have Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Okay.

Mike Gorday:

Because I was watching SVU.

Ody:

And I had to change the aura. Okay, all right okay, all right.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, Mr Aura guy, you ready?

Ody:

Oh.

Nathan Mumm:

Aura. Yeah, there you go, story number three. Well, maybe not Aura, but let's talk about, I guess, dna.

Mike Gorday:

Well, let's talk about 23andMe, shall we Okay?

Nathan Mumm:

let's talk about this company. Oh wow, now you remember. James, on our show way before 23andMe had a security breach, said that he was scared about people having our DNA out.

Ody:

This is like the one thing that I paid attention to. You did right.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, so James was like James called it and you couldn't even interact with it.

Mike Gorday:

See there you go, exactly.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, tell us a little bit more about this.

Mike Gorday:

Well, 23andme is fighting for survival. Three years ago, the DNA testing firm was a massive success and had a share price higher than Apple. Yep. But those heady days of millions of people rushing to send in saliva samples in return for detailed reports about their ancestry, family connections and genetic makeup. Its share price has plummeted and this week it narrowly avoided being delisted from the stock market.

Mike Gorday:

Of course, this is a company that holds the most sensitive data imaginable about its customers, raising troubling questions about what may happen to its huge and extremely valuable database of individual human DNA. 23andme says it remains committed to protecting customer data and consistently focused on maintaining the privacy of our customers, except for when they get hacked and China steals everything. But how did what was once the most talked about tech firms get into a position where it has to answer questions about its very survival With famous customers, including Snoop Dogg, oprah, eva Longoria and Warren Buffett? Some people discovered that their parents were not who they were Shame, shame and that they had a genetic predisposition to serious health conditions. Its share prices rocketed to $321 per share back in the day. Yeah, fast forward three years and that price slumped to just under $5.

Nathan Mumm:

Just think if you actually bought it when it was like $162.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, you know Okay, what do you do?

Mike Gorday:

The problems at 23 and me are reflected in the turmoil in its leadership. The board resigned in the summer and only the CEO and co-founder, Ann Wojcicki, sister of the late YouTube bot, Susan Wojcicki and ex-wife of Google co-founder Sergey Brin hey, how about that? They're all connected Remains from the original lineup. 23andme co-founder and CEO has publicly shared that she intends to take the company private and is not open to considering third-party takeover proposals. What happens to the DNA, though? Oh yeah, that's kind of the big part, right? Yeah, Companies rising and falling is nothing new, especially in tech, but 23andMe is different. It's worrying because of the sensitivity of the data, and we've talked about this on at least three other occasions on the show.

Mike Gorday:

Not just for the individuals who have used the firm. If you gave your data to 23andMe, you also have the genetic data of your parents, your siblings, your children and even distant kin who did not consent. Yeah, that's an interesting thing too right.

Nathan Mumm:

So let's say I had my uncle decided to go and do 23andMe, so now the whole mum genetic line out there to an extent is now available. I don't want that to be out there.

Mike Gorday:

Well, they would be able to identify your parents, but only half of your children, unless your wife threw in with it. Yeah Right, yeah, 23andme terms of service and privacy statement would remain in place unless and until customers are presented with and agree to new terms and statements. There are also legal protections which apply in the UK under its version of the data protection law, gdpr. Whether the firm goes bust or changes hands, even so, all companies can be hacked, and 23andMe was hacked about a year ago.

Nathan Mumm:

About a year ago this time yep.

Mike Gorday:

Ultimately, a much more robust approach is needed if they want to keep their most personal information safe. I don't know how many times we say that on this show. We should change the show motto to keep your information safe. Yeah, keep your information safe.

Nathan Mumm:

Don't put it out there on the internet.

Mike Gorday:

Invest in paper.

Nathan Mumm:

There, you go.

Mike Gorday:

The terms and conditions of these companies are typically incredibly inclusive. When you give out your personal data to them, you allow them to do pretty much anything they want with it, but if bankruptcy happens, the buyout of assets would not hold the same legal protections which we talked about at length.

Nathan Mumm:

We have, and James talked about that at length too, right.

Mike Gorday:

Yep. So the question is whether or not the us government should step in and save this private company, and that question has many people rethinking that the na-based companies in the private sector.

Nathan Mumm:

So I mean that kind of is interesting, right. Let's say 23andme does go um private and let's say they're struggling for money and they have a whole bunch of finance people that decide to come from outside the United States say China.

Mike Gorday:

Let's say Well, China's not going to buy it. They already hacked it. Well, that's okay.

Nathan Mumm:

But other companies that are looking at it. All of a sudden now we're into a big problem where that information has gotten out. The original agreements that everybody signed on haven't been kept to place, and there you go.

Mike Gorday:

There you go. Haven't been kept to place and there you go, there you go. The only thing that is maybe positive is that there's so much information out. I don't know if anybody knows what to do with it. That is true, that is true.

Nathan Mumm:

There's a whole bunch of individuals in the hacking community. All they're trying to do is consolidate all the databases that are out there so that they can actually have a tree of information, because there's so many data breaches, with so much information out there, there's almost now too much to have information regarding one person.

Mike Gorday:

We've pretty much learned on this show that if you have any presence at all anywhere on the internet, your information has probably been hacked somewhere along the lines and it's not because of your fault. It's because of other places like, well, your hospital yeah, I mean, that's the worst thing.

Nathan Mumm:

You can't do anything about your hospital.

Mike Gorday:

Was it kaiser that got?

Nathan Mumm:

hacked. Yeah, so did. Uh. Uh, what was the other one?

Mike Gorday:

regents got hacked also yeah, yeah, so you know all right are you interested in this?

Nathan Mumm:

this is the next data yeah tons, so let's. Let's talk about story number four.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, we all know that. We all know that, as a result of this show, I want to live in a cabin.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, come on, technology is great, it just needs to be protected it's.

Mike Gorday:

It's great when you turn it off have you have?

Nathan Mumm:

you have you heard of a company called intel? Yeah, so intel used to be the biggest company.

Nathan Mumm:

It used to be like the biggest company in the United States for coprocessors, processors. Everything was Intel Pentium, intel, pentium 2, intel i5s, i3s. Well, guess what? What AMD is looking to buy Intel? It's on the table. Experts say, when thinking about AMD and Intel is exactly what they are fierce rivals. However, the US government is encouraging Intel to consider a merger with a rival such as AMD to counteract the intense financial trouble the company has been in over the past several months. Intel just released its earning for the third quarter of the year, where the company revealed that it had lost $16.6 billion. That's a third quarter. This isn't for the whole year. This is the third quarter. It lost $16.6 billion. Year over year, intel's net profits margins have dropped by more than 6,000%. That's not a typo. Intel is bleeding money and, according to the report, the US government sees Chipmaker as too important to go under another one of these companies that are struggling.

Mike Gorday:

We have 23andMe, and now we?

Nathan Mumm:

have.

Mike Gorday:

Intel, but they're suggesting that AMD buys it.

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, because AMD is financially responsible. They didn't go on out. They've always been number two, or sometimes even number. They're now number three chip processor, but they didn't have huge debts, they didn't have huge loans. What's and what's interesting about this is the united states government gives tons of grant money to intel, but intel has spent too much money. And there's this poor company that was a nobody three years ago, called nvidia, that just made graphics cards.

Mike Gorday:

I'm just thinking it's kind of interesting that they want to start a monopoly. Well, here's the problem.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, NVIDIA actually now owns the processing market Because of all ChatGPT and all these other new services they're using GPUs. Bitcoin mining machines use GPUs. Everybody decided to not use the processor to build their new technology, but decided to use graphic processing units instead. And Intel, what's that? Because they're better and they're faster, and so Intel never kind of clicked up into that area and said, okay, well, the graphics cards be the graphics cards. We're still going to be doing the coprocessor and Intel is in major trouble.

Mike Gorday:

In other words, yeah, but I just think it's ironic that the US government would be like oh yeah, let your competitor buy you and then they'll own the whole part of the share of the market. Well, I think they're trying to compete against.

Nathan Mumm:

NVIDIA. Nvidia is so big now that AMD is the third with Intel. It would maybe be. Then you have NVIDIA and Intel.

Mike Gorday:

Amd is one, I actually think Intel in the next two to three years could disappear to keep NVIDIA from monopolizing the market. Yeah, I think that's trying to do that All right.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, that ends our top technology stories of the week. Moving on, we have our letter segment up next with a phishing attempt not on a boat, but on email to try to trick you into sharing your data hard-earned money. You're going to want to tune in to protect yourself and others. You're listening to Tech Platinum partner, one of only two in the entire Northwest.

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Nathan Mumm:

All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. Our weekly show covers the top technology subjects Without any political agenda. We verify the facts, we do it in a sense of humor Less than 60 minutes and, of course, with a little whiskey on the side. Today, mark Gregoire, our whiskey connoisseur, is back in the studio 400 Mark. Well, hello, gentlemen.

Marc Gregoire:

What have you chosen for?

Nathan Mumm:

us today.

Marc Gregoire:

Today is Barrel Craft Spirits single barrel cast strength. It's their private barrel Z5S9. Okay Now from barrels owner Joe Beatrice. He says this bourbon from this bottle is one individual barrel, selected for its distinctive characteristics, bottled at cast strength. Each barrel yields between 120 and 190 bottles. Experience the flavor of a true single barrel bottled bourbon.

Nathan Mumm:

That's a tongue twister, there A bottom bourbon A bottle bourbon, bottle bourbon, bottle, bourbon, bottle bourbon.

Marc Gregoire:

Now it's from Barrel Craft Spirits. The distillation is not their own. They source that from Indiana Distillery which is assumed to be MGP. It's straight bourbon. It's almost nine years old. It's 110.64 proof. Mash bill is undisclosed and the price is around $80. $.

Nathan Mumm:

Mash bill is undisclosed and the price is around $80. $80. $80. Oh boy, okay Now. Last week's was fantastic. Last week was fantastic.

Mike Gorday:

Don't compare it to last week's, sir.

Nathan Mumm:

I still have last week's kind of on my mind, because the bottle stayed here a little bit and then maybe it had a little bit after the show and a little bit longer. So I'm not really liking this. This has got a bitter taste.

Mike Gorday:

Well, take a break. Go slug some Canadian mist. Okay, and then come back, and that'll be great.

Marc Gregoire:

Oh, it'll be good then. Okay, yeah, try reselling your palate, because this is a sweet balm. Okay, we'll talk about that later, it's sweet and peppery. Okay, all right.

Nathan Mumm:

I'm glad you're back. Well, thank you, I missed you last week.

Mike Gorday:

All right, we talked a lot of crap about you while you were there.

Marc Gregoire:

I listened to the show. Well, actually, nathan talked a lot of crap, All right.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, with our first whiskey tasting completed, let's move on to our feature segment. Today, we're bringing back the funny yet informative reading of emails that I received during the week. These include scam, phishing emails and all-out mistruths, disguises, legitimate emails and a segment we call Letters Letters we get letters, we get back back, back those letters, all letters.

Marc Gregoire:

We get letters, and the letters all have songs.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, we should start off with the Odie's first Odie. What do you have in front of you?

Ody:

I have something from Coinbase saying you're obligated to set up Coinbase self-custodial wallet by January 1st of 2025.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, these are coming on out really aggressively. Now, what email address was that sent from?

Ody:

It was sent from info at BelmontPeanutscom what I want some peanuts, so let's.

Nathan Mumm:

So let's talk about that. So well, okay. So I get an email like that. What's your first thinking on this?

Ody:

don't click it. It says to learn more about coinbase wallet, you can click here okay and then, at the end of it, you have received this email from belmont peanuts. If you would like to unsubscribe, click here so it's interesting isn it? So it's not from Coinbase.

Nathan Mumm:

So it's not from Coinbase and their unsubscribe note that they have, because they actually sent it out through legitimate service. They sent it out through SurveyMonkey, which they can do. So it actually came and it looks very formatted correctly. It looks like it was pretty much there. I do have a Coinbase account, so Coinbase actually sent out information that you do need to update your account before. So they had all the right information, made it through a legitimate service.

Ody:

But if you click on that link, you're going to go to a completely different site other than Coinbase, and you're going to be in trouble. Also another thing to note when looking at the image itself, there's no errors. It has that scarcity mindset of the secure high-value assets in big, bold letters. So it really does try to trick you.

Nathan Mumm:

It does. So be careful. End-of-the-year stuff is coming on out, right, so you're going to get end-of-the-year taxes. You're going to get tons of end-of-the-year stuff. All right, let's go now. Mark, do you have one there? You have a very interesting one. I do, and this is going to be coming up on our technology fails so I don't want to give too much away.

Marc Gregoire:

but here you go, let's talk about this. I'm going to lead it a little bit then. So this your DocuSign application for your business line of credit from SNH Consultants. Okay, and Sean Harbour wrote you. Ceo wrote you.

Nathan Mumm:

He is from the loan company.

Marc Gregoire:

And pretty much it just says did you receive the DocuSign? We need your bank statements. Please finish the application. Start your application. There's a little button there and there's even a little video about a testimonial from somebody from Hemet, california.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, sean, right there on the little video.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, a little video on that and everything. Okay. So guess what happens when you click on the link? So I printed out the page that you have next.

Marc Gregoire:

Yeah, I read that one. That's why I know what's going on.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, so it's a fake link in itself, but what's happening right now are tons of people are getting into DocuSign and what they've done is they actually use the API we're going to be talking about on. Our technology fail and these are coming on out from DocuSign. If you look at that, that looks like it comes from DocuSign, so it looks like it's legitimate and all the information is there. They actually are using DocuSign's API to send it out. When you click on the document itself, it actually opens up and it looked just like a DocuSign document. But when you actually look at the back end of where it was going, it wasn't going to DocuSign. It was going to their one-off site that was available there with ZEDZZJAB blah blah, blah, blah.

Nathan Mumm:

Yep, so it was a hidden site, but right now DocuSign and we're going to be talking about it on our fail has been breached with their API. So do not click on DocuSign documents that are coming to you unless you verify that those are legitimate. So if someone sends you a DocuSign and you're not expecting it, please pick up the phone and call the person to confirm, because they have been breached with their API.

Marc Gregoire:

Yeah, don't email them back on the same email string.

Nathan Mumm:

Do not email them back on the same email string. Do not email them back on the same email string and do not click on the document. That looks like it came from DocuSign.

Mike Gorday:

Just get rid of your email altogether. All right, well.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't think you want to do that either. All right, Mr Gorday, what do we have up next for you?

Mike Gorday:

I have something here to Nathan for a payment receipt from Diane Babbles, oh, okay. Or Babeless, or Babeless Babels, okay. But the email address is KelseyDamien at gmailcom.

Nathan Mumm:

What? How's Kelsey being? How is Kelsey and Diane? Maybe they call her Diane as a different name, who knows?

Mike Gorday:

Okay, bad form, dearnathanmom at Hotmailcom. So they don't even know your full name, they don't even personalize your name.

Nathan Mumm:

They just auto-populate you. They're just going to use the email address.

Mike Gorday:

Email address. Could you please provide more details about the payment receipt you eed? They forgot an N.

Marc Gregoire:

That you need, so it's you eed.

Mike Gorday:

For example. So it sounds real, just like I'm typing yeah, yeah, for example, are you looking for a template, information on how to create one? No, o. Or something else specific Need to cancel or modify your. I assume that this that I have in my second hand is the attachment.

Nathan Mumm:

That is the PDF, yeah.

Mike Gorday:

And this is from PayPal. Paypal is an invoice. That is the PDF, yep. And this is from PayPal. It's an invoice.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay.

Mike Gorday:

Dear PayPal customer, we noticed an unauthorized transaction from your PayPal account. Shame, shame. Okay, this transaction was not made by you. Kindly call us for cancellation of this order, otherwise your $789.99 USD will be charged.

Nathan Mumm:

And it has a help number on there. Look at that.

Mike Gorday:

Yes, bitcoin crypto was the, I guess, so how much Bitcoin?

Nathan Mumm:

did it say I actually purchased for $700?

Mike Gorday:

0.0867. So that's not even right.

Nathan Mumm:

So if that was the case 0.08, so 0.1, right now Bitcoin's up to $70,000. So if you was the case that 0.08, so 0.1, right now Bitcoin is up to $70,000. So if you actually did the math here, I actually kind of want to say no, I'm okay with this purchase because I got it at a heck of a deal.

Mike Gorday:

If I actually purchased that. That's a pretty good deal. Yeah, that's a great deal.

Nathan Mumm:

So I want to call them up and say, yes, please charge my account for that. Can you tell me where my Bitcoin is? Okay, bitcoin is Okay. Did you call the helpline? I did call the help number and it was already been disconnected. So they're probably using a voiceover IP service that has already been canceled.

Mike Gorday:

Check your emails from. You're from emails.

Nathan Mumm:

Don't click on the links right. And don't click on the links and don't respond to something.

Mike Gorday:

if you get something from DocuSign that says you need to get it taken, care of, don't respond care of, like I said, get rid of your email altogether.

Nathan Mumm:

No, no, no, Mr Gourdet.

Mike Gorday:

Email needs to be in every day. Your boss doesn't need you to email them back about when you're taking the day off. Okay, all right.

Nathan Mumm:

Here's what we got Now. Last but not least, hi Nathan, we're conducting a study focused on development process and software applications and we're inviting you, as a key decision maker and influencer, to participate in a 90-minute focus group discussion. The session will explore the types of software being developed across organizations, gain insight, development strategies, challenges. We're specifically looking to engage technology professionals from companies with over 250 employees. As a thank you, you meet this, participating will receive a $590 incentive for your time and insight.

Mike Gorday:

So, first of all, I don't work for a company, you're going to pay $590?.

Nathan Mumm:

So $590 for my time and effort to sit and participate in a 90-minute focus group Wow, so that is literally 90 minutes. So that's an hour and a half, that's an hour and a half, so that's like $300 an hour. They're willing to pay me. That's a pretty good deal.

Mike Gorday:

You're worth it, Okay, well, thank you, Mark very much. Don't do that.

Nathan Mumm:

Now, this is a company I've never heard of. It's called Zentro. This is a senior research analyst. They have a phone number with extension. I called the 617-936-0153 number and I 936-0153 number and I tried the extension number and Zentral does not answer. So it goes to an Indian call center that answers and say hello, how can I help you?

Mike Gorday:

And did you say, hey, I want my 590 bucks.

Nathan Mumm:

So I said this and they said oh, let me transfer you. And so he puts me on hold. And all of a sudden, I swear it's the same guy, I'm sure he just transferred me to himself and me on hold. And all of a sudden, I swear it's the same guy, I'm sure he just transferred me to himself. And then he's like oh yes, we are interested in this. I just have to do a pre-application survey before we can know if you're eligible for the survey. Now, there are companies that do this, and I have done this, so that doesn't mean that this idea is necessarily a scam. What I've never been paid, though, is 590 for 90 minutes. Normally you get 75 bucks.

Ody:

You get maybe a $50 gift card. Well, yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

So I haven't been paid this amount. So I played along as I like to do, and they started asking me questions and they started getting really specific, like, okay, tell me about this, who do you bank with, who do you use for? And they started going on this huge tangent. I said, well, what does this have to do with software development processes? Well, our software is really important for cross-group collaboration. We work with finances, we work with this, we work with this. So they were trying to say that this company Good line yeah, it was. Actually. If you're not paying attention to it, I think you could get sucked into it. So you got to be careful. This was too good to be true. Now there are places that pay for you to go and attend events. I know, mark, you were just at like a conference that just did that, right?

Marc Gregoire:

You mean, I wasn't hunting illegal whiskeys? No, you weren't.

Nathan Mumm:

Were you hunting? Did you find an illegal whiskey? I did not. Okay, all right, so I guess you weren't hunting illegal whiskey.

Mike Gorday:

I was not. I went the other day. That has whiskey from the Prohibition area. Wow, do you really? Yeah?

Nathan Mumm:

Where was that at? I'll tell you after the break. Okay, all right. Okay, so the big thing here is $590. Too expensive to be paying someone that to actually participate in a survey. Don't get caught with a scam. If it's too good to be true, then it is All right. Well, guess what that ends our segment letters. Now we have Mike's mesmerizing moment. Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment. What does Mike have to say today? All right, here's my question for you, mike Should companies that go out of business still honor privacy regarding their content?

Mike Gorday:

You know, I feel like we've talked about this before we have, we have.

Nathan Mumm:

This is kind of a repeat question, but it's a good time to bring this back up again.

Mike Gorday:

Well, we all know that I have a lot of problems with this kind of stuff. So should they still honor their privacy? Yes, they should. If somebody, if say, a company that's similar to something that sounds maybe like 22andYou goes out of business and they have your DNA and somebody comes in and buys that, they should not be able to buy your DNA. They should not Without getting some sort of I guess consent from you, Because that's a very sneaky way of that's basically a behind the run hack. Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

So we had a speaker come on in here from Tiki. We had a guest speaker back in a couple years ago and they were a company that was going to try to have you sign up for their services and they were going to pay you for you to share your information online. And you were going to pay you for you to share your information online and you were going to get a check back from them. So this company did a bunch of information in gathering and they were a startup idea. The owner, I think, and the founder were honest on what they were trying to do, but they ended up running out of business.

Mike Gorday:

Now they have this huge data of information they collected from these people Should they be able to sell that I think they should not be able to sell that.

Marc Gregoire:

Hang on a second on that one, because people sold their data to them with the understanding that that would be shared, right?

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, but they were going to get paid back. Oh, they haven't been paid yet and none of the people have been paid. They all shared their information, filled out profiles for this information. None of them have been paid and then they decide to go out of business and sell that to somebody else that comes on in for assets.

Mike Gorday:

In an industry in which your information is the stock in trade, I think anything that can protect that would be something worthwhile. I don't think companies should be able to like 23andMe. I don't think, if they get a buyout, that you would be able to have access to that data. But that's just me.

Marc Gregoire:

Okay, well, that part I fully agree with. The other one with yours, is a little bit more. It's just like another company coming by assets. They still have to honor the original contract. So you can sell the data, assuming that you fulfill the contract of paying those people.

Nathan Mumm:

Now the new company comes on in and they don't have the same process. They're not trying to give you a paycheck, I mean just like when you buy a company.

Marc Gregoire:

You take on not just their assets, but you take on their current vendor contracts and other contracts that you still are obligated to, but all they have to do is do some publication of a TOS or something and change the terms of service.

Nathan Mumm:

Yes. So it's interesting now because a lot of the startup companies down in the California Silicon area are going out of business. Other companies are coming on in. They've had a lot of assets, a lot of time and sweat equity for these startups to deal and they're changing the information that they're buying. They're not necessarily using what the original owner intended for data collection and now they're collecting that as a part of their data Cabin in the woods.

Mike Gorday:

I'm saying I'm just saying cabin in the woods, okay, well, there you go All right.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, thank you for that mesmerizing moment, mike. Up next we have this Week in Technology, so now would be a great time to enjoy that little whiskey on the side, as we're going to be doing so. During the break, you're listening to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm. See you in a few minutes. Hey, mike, yo, what's up? Hey, so you know what. We need people to start liking our social media page If you really like us we could use your support on Patreoncom.

Mike Gorday:

Is it Patreon? I think it's Patreon. Okay, Patreon. If you really like us, you can like us in. Patreoncom.

Nathan Mumm:

I butcher the English language, you know you butcher the English language all the time. It's Patreoncom, patreoncom.

Mike Gorday:

If you really like our show, you can subscribe to Patreoncom and help us out and you can visit us on that Facebook platform.

Nathan Mumm:

You know, the one that Zuckerberg owns, the one that we always bag on. Yeah, we're on Facebook too. Yeah, like us on Facebook. Do you know what our Facebook page is? Tech Time Radio. At Tech Time Radio, you know what? There's a trend here.

Mike Gorday:

It seems to be that there's a trend and that's Tech Time Radio, or you can even Instagram with us.

Nathan Mumm:

And that's at Tech Time Radio. That's at Tech Time Radio. Or you can find us on TikTok, and it's Tech Time Radio. It's at Tech Time Radio.

Mike Gorday:

Like and subscribe to our social media Like us today, we need you to like us. Like us and subscribe.

Nathan Mumm:

That's it. That's it. It's that simple. And now let's look back at this week in technology. All right, we're going on our way back machine to November 5th 2007. Google introduces the Android platform. It's a mobile operating system for cell phones based on a modified version of the Linux operating system. The first Android-based phone would ship September 2008, almost a year later, as the T-Mobile G1, the HTC Dream. Now let's talk about Android. Do you know that Android holds 70.89% of the global smartphone market? Well, iphone, ios only holds 28.37%.

Mike Gorday:

No kidding.

Nathan Mumm:

Do you know that 3 billion Android phones are being used right now around the world?

Mike Gorday:

How interesting.

Nathan Mumm:

So Android is by far a dominant global leader. We were just over in Japan. I saw maybe one iPhone to every 10 to 20 Android phones that were there.

Mike Gorday:

Samsung was just all over in Japan. I would go to Japan to count iPhones. Well, I did.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, yeah, isn't that something you look at?

Mike Gorday:

to make sure you. No, I don't look at it. I know I have a preference and I know why I have that preference.

Nathan Mumm:

You like Android right?

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, apparently I'm with the 70.89% of the population, the global population.

Nathan Mumm:

So is Mark. I think Mark is too. Mark is too yeah.

Ody:

Odie, are you an Android person too?

Nathan Mumm:

I will never have an.

Ody:

Android.

Mike Gorday:

I do have to complain, though, because there are some things about my iPhone that works better than my Android Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Well, that was this Week in Technology. If you ever wanted to watch some Tech Time history, with over 220-plus weekly broadcasts, spending four-plus years in video, podcasts, blog information you can visit us at techtimeradiocom to watch our older shows. Or take a look, of course, at our whiskey ratings. For all of our whiskey. We're going to take a commercial break. When we return, we have the Mark Mumble Whiskey Review. See you after the break.

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Mike Gorday:

S-T-O-R-I-Coffeecom, the segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's Whiskey Mumble hey.

Marc Gregoire:

Mumble. All right, gentlemen, november 5th. I did a little twist. We all know it's Election Day. It was a little too obvious.

Mike Gorday:

So what else is today?

Nathan Mumm:

Don't leave your house because it's Election Day, november 5th. Is it like some patriotic day? You can't be logical. Wow, is it a patriotic day? You can't be logical.

Mike Gorday:

Is it a patriotic?

Ody:

day, it's kind of close. I feel like that's a very American thing.

Mike Gorday:

Is that pretty good? No you're wrong. What is it?

Ody:

It's National Football Day, american Football Day.

Nathan Mumm:

We should have some NFL music Did you watch that game last? Night.

Mike Gorday:

No, because it's copyrighted.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh man, tampa, Bay, oh, they should have gone for two.

Ody:

Anyway.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, okay.

Marc Gregoire:

Continue on. So American Football Day celebrates the USA's most popular sport and reminds us all that it's mid-season and we should probably check our fantasy teams. Yes, we should. Yeah, all 10 of them. Our fantasy teams? Yes, we should. Yeah, all ten of them. Now, as football has turned into america's national sport, bourbon is america's national spirit. Okay, today's bourbon we are discussing this from barrel craft spirits, founded by joe batrice. He's a former marketing and technology entrepreneur and entrepreneur entrepreneur, thank you.

Marc Gregoire:

Joe founded his first company, blue dingo digital, in the 1990s to help companies use the internet to establish brand and grow their products. Now, in 2013, he launched barrel craft spirits. Joe batrice is sort of like you and I, nathan what's that? He analyzes every small detail, oh, oh, okay. Now he studies hundreds of label variations to learn why consumers will pay $20 more if a label is on the lower third of the bottle. Really, yes, okay, even the name Barrel came from weeks of debating various monikers, including Blue Dingo, which is similar to Blue Zebra, which you were a part of in your past.

Nathan Mumm:

I do remember that.

Marc Gregoire:

Before he landed on barrel. In the end, patrice believed the name would explain exactly what was in the bottle Whiskey straight from the barrel. Now for my palate, this bourbon leads with sweetness. I get white sugar, honey, a bit of caramel, and then at the end it rounds out with a little wood to balance it out. Honey, a bit of caramel, and then at the end it rounds out with a little wood to balance it out. For me it's a nice sipper, not overly complex, quite delicious, especially after a meal.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, all right, maybe the meal part maybe is important because it's.

Marc Gregoire:

You got a good point, so I've had it a few times already. It's, like I said, overly sweet for me, but every time it's been after food. This is the first time I've had it as the first drink of the day, before food, and I get a little bit more of the spice of the wood. Mike mentioned pepper. I could see that in it and a little bitterness. But you add a little food or get your palate accommodated. A little bit Sweetness, all right, okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, Mark, thanks for that mumble. As always, whiskey and technology are a great pairing, just like election season and overload of political commercials.

Marc Gregoire:

That was a good one.

Nathan Mumm:

There you go All right, let's prepare for our Technology Fail of the Week by Elite Executive Services. We are out of time. Congratulations, you're a failure.

Speaker 4:

Oh, I failed. Did I yes, did I yes Did.

Speaker 7:

I, yes, did I.

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, all right. Well, this week's failure comes to us online from a software company called DocuSign. Third actors are abusing DocuSign's envelope API, which is essentially the code to interact with DocuSign, to create a mass disruptive fake invoices that appear genuine, impersonating well-known brands like Norton and PayPal. Using the legitimate services, the attackers bypass email security protections as they come from an actual DocuSign domain, docusignnet. The goal is to have these targets e-sign the signatures, which then can be used to authorize payments independent from the company's billing departments. Docusign is an electronic signage signature platform that enables digital signing, sending and managing documents. The Envelope API is core to a component of DocuSign's e-signature REST API allowing developers to create, send and manage document containers that define the signing process. The API is meant to help customers automate and send documents that need signing, track their status and retrieve them when signed. If user e-signs this document, the attacker can then use the signed document to request payment from the organization outside of DocuSign or send the signed document through DocuSign to the financial department for payments. Other attempts have included different invoices with different items, usually following the same pattern of getting signatures for invoices and then authorizing payment into the attacker's bank account.

Nathan Mumm:

Here's what DocuSign says as a public comment. We are aware of the report and take them very seriously. While, in the interest of security, we don't disclose specifics that could alert bad actors to our prevention tactics, docusign has a number of technical systems and teams in place to help prevent misuse of our service. We'll continuously monitor several layers of our system to identify behaviors as they are associated with fraud and illegal activities, so they can quickly investigate and act to stop suspicious behavior. All right, wow. So what that's saying is yes, we know this happened. No, we're not going to admit that. It happened down to the global press. We're going to monitor it. Hopefully you don't get scammed and if you do and we're lucky enough to notice that it's your fault, maybe we can take care of it, that's exactly what it's saying.

Marc Gregoire:

They're just telling me by line. They don't know how to fix it, yet they do not.

Nathan Mumm:

That's exactly what this means is yes, you're right. Yes, somebody has breached us. Yes, we know that something's going on here that's illegal. We don't know what the fix is, we don't know what the cause is, we don't know how to take next actions, but we're going to continuously monitor several layers of our systems to identify behaviors that are associated with fraud and illegal activity.

Marc Gregoire:

Yeah, I hope your listeners are paying attention to this segment and maybe even replay it a few times, because this is pretty significant. This breach yes, more so than a lot of the other ones that we hear about that have global implications, but nothing that much happens. This one comes across as a legitimate DocuSign envelope and the scam ratio of this becomes very high.

Nathan Mumm:

Snail mail, so snail mail.

Mike Gorday:

Cabin in the woods and mailman delivering you.

Nathan Mumm:

Do you have a big shotgun on your cabin in the woods to keep everybody off?

Marc Gregoire:

You have your shotgun.

Mike Gorday:

And my notebook with all the passwords that I don't ever use anymore because I got rid of all my technology.

Marc Gregoire:

You would get the mailman that stores all the mail in his basement.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, you'd get that guy. All right, we're going to head out. Newman. Actually, you know what?

Nathan Mumm:

We're not going to go to our next commercial break, we're going to go right to our Nathan nugget.

Speaker 1:

This is your.

Nathan Mumm:

Nugget of the Week. All right, let's talk about this. This is good. Some iPhone 14 plus phones have camera issues, but Apple says that they will fix them for free.

Mike Gorday:

I'm a thrifty guy, that's because you're not.

Nathan Mumm:

Android. Well, okay, there you go, android guy, but let's talk about this. Apple will actually fix these issues.

Marc Gregoire:

There's a company stepping up.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah. So instead of saying, oh, this is a problem, they said, yeah, this was a problem. You spent $1,500 to $2,000 on this phone. We're going to take care of it. Here's Apple's specific definition of the affected phones according to their service program page. According to their service program page, Apple has determined that the rear camera on a very small percentage of the iPhone 14 Plus devices may exhibit no preview. Affected devices were manufactured between April 10, 2023 to April 28, 2024. If your iPhone Plus is affected iPhone 14 Plus and you enter your serial number on our program page to see if yours is, Apple says that it will use when you say ours you mean Apple's?

Nathan Mumm:

Apple's? So their page, sorry. So you enter your serial number on the program page to see if your phones is one of the phones that is there. Apple says that it will authorize service providers to fix your camera for free. If you've already paid to have your camera repaired, apple says to reach out to them and they will also get you a refund. Eligible phones will be covered by this program for three years after they were originally sold. Apple occasionally launches these type of service programs to offer repairs for its products, like one to fix receivers on iPhone 12 and the 12 Pro phones and to fix AirPod Pros that make crackling or static sounds. Now you know what you got to give credit to Apple.

Speaker 8:

They had a manufacturing error.

Nathan Mumm:

They were absolutely able to identify it. I love it when they actually then know it's probably some chip.

Speaker 8:

Well, this is like a recall.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, so April 10th to april 28, 2024, so about a year they know that this chip probably had a faulty problem and instead of having to have this no preview and you know what the no preview is important, but probably people have lived without it and probably didn't think that it was even available for them. On that, but if it has an issue now you can go and get it fixed for free plus, it's cheaper than getting sued.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, it is probably cheaper to get in soon. All right, there you go. Now you know what, though let's move to our pick of the day and now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings.

Speaker 1:

Let's see what bubbles to the top.

Marc Gregoire:

What is bubbling today in our glasses is Barrel Craft Spirits single barrel cast strength. It's a private barrel, z5s9. It is distilled from MGP straight bourbon, almost nine years old, 110.64 proof, $80.

Nathan Mumm:

$80. All right, thumbs up or thumbs down. What do you think, mike?

Mike Gorday:

Oh, I'm going to give it a thumbs up. I really like it.

Nathan Mumm:

You're going to give it a thumbs up.

Mike Gorday:

It's got the combination of pepper and sweetness for me.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, you know what?

Marc Gregoire:

I'm going to give it.

Nathan Mumm:

Try one more sip, try one more sip, try one more sip.

Mike Gorday:

Try one more sip. Try one more sip. You know you're going to give it a thumbs up, because you can't compare it to last week's whiskey. This is $80, though, right.

Marc Gregoire:

Oh, he's going to pull a cheap card, which is a pretty good deal in the bourbon world now.

Mike Gorday:

Is that a pretty good?

Nathan Mumm:

deal.

Ody:

It's got a cork top. It does have a cork top.

Nathan Mumm:

Odie knows what I like. It's the cork top. You know what, Mark? I'm actually going to put a thumbs down.

Marc Gregoire:

All right.

Nathan Mumm:

And maybe if I had food with it I didn't. So if I had food with it, maybe that would change my mind. Or maybe you know what this may be a really good smoking whiskey, a little cigar whiskey that you have when you're smoking a cigar and then you have a little whiskey.

Marc Gregoire:

I don't smoke but I Smoked bourbons are heavy and wood and overly sweet.

Ody:

I could see that fitting. Can you give me the stats one more time about this whiskey For you? Yes, okay, thank you.

Marc Gregoire:

Barrel Craft Spirits distilled in Indiana from MGP Straight bourbon almost nine years. It is 110.64 proof, match bill is undisclosed and it is $80 for this bottle. All right, I'm going to say no.

Mike Gorday:

And Nathan gave it a thumbs up.

Nathan Mumm:

No, I gave it a thumbs down, all right Before we end our show, as we play out, let's talk a little bit.

Ody:

X.

Nathan Mumm:

You know I pulled up an article reading this X was supposed to be a bank by now. You remember Elon Musk said he wanted to turn Twitter into the town square and everything app. He failed to do both. So far as we're seeing, a year later, he's essentially bought uh twitter and within a year, he said this turned it into a.

Nathan Mumm:

He's just turned it into a elon platform for himself to do stuff with well, you know, what's interesting is that people are fact checking on some of the stuff that he posts online. He is less than 3% correct when he posts stuff online.

Speaker 8:

Is this surprising?

Nathan Mumm:

Most of that is fake news.

Marc Gregoire:

Yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

Can you believe that?

Marc Gregoire:

But this is supposed to be the platform.

Mike Gorday:

Having his own bots checked him. I don't believe that at all, because I believe everything Elon says when he took it over.

Marc Gregoire:

Why do you think he got rid of all those departments that do all the checking, so that I guess he could post whatever he wanted. I just can't believe that X Today is nowhere near what Twitter was before.

Mike Gorday:

But there's no other platform. I saw an article about it. It's not even a social media anymore. I know.

Ody:

Threads is there, but it's not the same caliber of Twitter.

Nathan Mumm:

It's not, it's just kind of hanging there, it's crap. Well, what do you think of Studio 400? You liking it, mark? Yeah, this is fun, this is fun.

Marc Gregoire:

I love our background. You like our background?

Nathan Mumm:

You feel spaces Alright? Well, we want to thank everybody. It was an honor to have our show today. You make us a successful show, so we can't wait forward to seeing you next week. Where circuits collides, sing and geeks reign supreme.

Speaker 1:

I'm your host, Nathan.

Nathan Mumm:

Mumm, see you at the Binary Wink. Bye-bye.

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Nathan Mumm

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