TechTime with Nathan Mumm

223: Space Voting, Cyber Lawsuits, Mr. Beast & Amazon’s $5 Million Competition Show, and Scandalous Tech with Telegram Changing Privacy. Unraveling Today's Top Stories | Air Date: 9/22 - 9/28/24

Nathan Mumm Season 6 Episode 223

Have you ever wondered if you can actually vote from space? Join us on this episode of Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm as we unravel this intriguing query alongside the latest tech developments. Special guest Nick Espinoza, a cybersecurity guru, helps us navigate through the explosive 54-page lawsuit against YouTube sensation Mr. Beast. We also delve into the NFL's radical game day tech transformations and the scandalous decisions by Telegram that led to its ban on military devices in various countries. From the spread of the alarming necro-malware that's wreaking havoc on millions of Android gadgets to our standard segments like Mike's mesmerizing moment and the technology fail of the week, there’s plenty to discuss.

We shift gears to examine the darker side of reality TV, spotlighting the controversy surrounding Mr. Beast and Amazon’s $5 million competition show. Contestants have raised serious allegations, including a hostile work environment and sexism, drawing parallels to issues seen in other popular shows like "Survivor" and "Love is Blind." Our conversation doesn’t shy away from the ethical concerns around facial recognition technology either. We question whether platforms like TikTok are safer than the NFL when it comes to protecting user data. This chapter of our podcast isn't just about tech; it's a critical look at the cultural and ethical implications of the entertainment industry.

As we navigate through the murky waters of politics and technology, we dissect the US government's push to ban vehicle connectivity technologies from China and Russia. Potential risks like remote manipulation of autonomous vehicles and the capturing of sensitive data make for a gripping discussion. Meta’s decision to ban Russian state media further intensifies the dialogue on cybersecurity. With Necro malware infecting millions of Android devices, election security, and futuristic tech trends like DNA sniffers, we cover every angle. And don't miss our celebration of Cherry Jubilee Day with a delightful recipe tip! Tune in for an episode packed with insights, expert opinions, and a touch of culinary delight.

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Speaker 1:

Broadcasting across the nation, from the East Coast to the West, keeping you up to date on technology while enjoying a little whiskey on the side, with leading edge topics, along with special guests to navigate technology in a segmented, stylized radio program. The information that will make you go, hmm. Pull up a seat, raise a glass with our hosts as we spend the next hour talking about technology for the common person. Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm.

Speaker 2:

Welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. The show that makes you go technology news of the week. The show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subject streets ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 segments on subject speaks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mumm, your host and technologist, with over 30 years of technology expertise. Our cohost, mike Rodea, is in studio today. He's an award-winning author and human behavior expert. Now, of course, we're live streaming during our show on four of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, twitchtv, facebook and LinkedIn. We encourage you to visit us online at techtimeradiocom and become a Patreon supporter at patreoncom. Forward slash techtimeradio. We're friends from different backgrounds but bring the best technology show possible weekly for our family, friends and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have ODR producer at the control panel today. Welcome everyone. Let's start today's show.

Speaker 1:

Now on today's show.

Speaker 2:

All right Today on Tech Time with Nathan Mumm, buckle up as we dive into the latest technology news and stories. Here's what's coming up on the show today. We're diving into the drama as YouTube megastar Mr Beast faces a massive 45-page lawsuit. 54-page or 54-page Sorry, there's more pages than I expected 54-page lawsuit. We also explore how the NFL is revolutionizing game day technology with a technology overhaul.

Speaker 2:

Curious about privacy? We discuss Telegram's controversial move to share users' data with authorities. Plus, find out why Telegram is banned on military and government devices across many nations in the world. Now, today, we have some alarming news about the spread of the necro-alware infection that is taking millions of Android devices by storm. All of this and insights from our special guest, cybersecurity guru, Nick Espinoza. Before the show ends, we're going to answer this question for you. Can you vote from space? In addition, we have our standard features, including Mike's mesmerizing moment, the technology fail of the week and a possible Nathan nugget and, of course, our pick of the day Whiskey Tasting. Let's see if our selected whiskey pick gets zero, one or two thumbs up by the end of the show. But now it's time for the latest headlines in technology. Uh-oh, Odie's looking at me, shaking her head. What's up, Odie?

Speaker 3:

It looks like we're having technical difficulties, did you get.

Speaker 2:

Oh, there it is. Here are our top technology stories of the week. Oh, odie's computer monitor got unplugged there. All right, there you go. Glad that we can have a technician available here to help. All right, story number one Telegram available here to help you. All right, story number one Telegram will now provide some user data to authorities. This now shows how a platform can be careful about what they say. But when you use a free platform, you need to understand that your data and privacy is not necessarily always going to be free. We're going to take a look at some of the legal issues of, all of a sudden, a CEO's change of mind and he puts out a new terms of service and all that data is no longer there. Let's go to Corinne Westland for more on this story.

Speaker 4:

It seems that Telegram will now provide some user data to authorities changing the safe to post anything service. Telegram posted on Monday that the change to its terms of service and privacy policy should discourage criminals. Telegram posted on Monday that the change to its terms of service and privacy policy should discourage criminals. Telegram co-founder and CEO, pia Val Dura, has agreed to share user data in response to valid law enforcement requests. The messaging app Telegram said it will hand over users' IP addresses and phone numbers to authorities with search warrants or other valid legal requests. Back to you guys in the studio.

Speaker 3:

Gee. I wonder why that's happening All right, so he got arrested.

Speaker 2:

in France, right, so he got arrested in France.

Speaker 2:

All of a sudden, he comes on out and he decides to make an announcement that the messaging app Telegram will now hand over IP address, phone numbers and login accounts to authorities who have a search warrant or other valid legal requests. While 99.9 percent of Telegram users have nothing to do with crime, the 0.1 percent involved with illicit activities create a bad image for the entire platform, putting the interests of our almost billion users at risk. Platform, putting the interests of our almost billion users at risk. Mr Durai said the announcement marks a significant reversal on the platform's Russian-born co-founder, who was detained by French authorities last month at an airport just north of Paris. Now, days later, prosecutors there charged him with enabling criminal activity on the platform. Allegations against him have included the spreading of child abuse images and trafficking of drugs. He's also charged with failing to comply with law enforcement. Now Mr Dura, who has denied the charges lashed out at authorities shortly after the arrest, saying that they are holding him responsible for crimes committed by third parties on a platform, was both surprising and misguided.

Speaker 2:

Critics say Telegram has become a hotbed of misinformation and, of course, child pornography, terror-related activity contents and the feature that allows groups to have 200,000 members. Now Meta's owned WhatsApp, by contrast, limits the size of groups to 1,000 people. Now, telegram was scrutinized last month for hosting far-right channels that contributed to violence in English cities. Earlier this week, ukraine banned the app on state-issued devices in a bid to minimize threats posed by Russia. The arrest of the 39-year-old chief executive has sparked debate about the future of the free speech protection on the Internet. Executive has sparked debate about the future of the free speech protection on the Internet. Telegram's marketing as a platform that would resist government demands attracted people that wanted to feel safe sharing their political views in places like Russia, belarus and the Middle East experts said.

Speaker 2:

Many now, though, are scrutinizing Telegram's announcement. Telegram is in a very unique procurement here, mike, so here's what they did they told all their users that their data would be there, available, secure, hidden from political agendas.

Speaker 2:

You can talk whatever you wanted as their marketing kind of speech. Now it is a free service, so terms of engagement and the terms for the contracts can change at any time. And then on Monday they essentially said that they're opening up everything in their database available for people to use to have legal searches done. So think of all those people that were on this platform that said stuff that they shouldn't have that now could be held liable.

Speaker 3:

I don't need to think about them.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

That's just part and parcel to all the irresponsible things that we see with these things.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So what have we said on the show a lot of times? If it's free, you need to watch. You should always watch what you're doing, because anything you do on the internet can be captured at any time, right, yeah, so you got to be careful. You cannot. If you're using a free service and they say it's going to be freeze and this is a political freedom you can talk whatever you want. You have to understand at any time if they change their terms of engagement on what you're using for their services. It's free. You can either opt out or you automatically opt in by using the services, and then you're held liable for what you say.

Speaker 3:

Well, we can make some assumptions that this change was based on not just activities that have occurred with the use of this service, but that they took it to the guy in charge and he's like I don't want any more of this heat, correct, right, yeah, and he's like I don't want any more of this heat, correct.

Speaker 2:

Right, yeah, I mean that's. I believe the CEO change is that France was going to hold him liable and they would continue to prosecute him, and throw him into jail and say this is what we have. And our laws in France are a little bit different than they may be in America. They may be in other countries, and so if you walk in this place, you're going to be arrested for what you've done.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, this is the same argument that we heard way back in the 80s, maybe the 90s, when they were talking about making bartenders responsible for-.

Speaker 2:

Drunk drivers Yep.

Speaker 3:

Not responsible, but-.

Speaker 2:

Liable.

Speaker 3:

Part liable for drunk driving? Yep, so we heard a lot of the same arguments back then.

Speaker 2:

So the biggest thing you should always know is, if you're using a free service, right Understand the reason it's free is because at any time they could sell your data, they could be compromised. Anything that you shouldn't say on the internet, don't put on the internet. Don't do that. I mean it's a very simple. It is the least secure place to put information, and Nick Espinosa will be talking about that later in the show today. Don't be putting your drama information on the internet keep your dirty laundry at home.

Speaker 2:

That's wrong all right, okay, speaking of, well, maybe not dirty laundry, but speaking of laundry.

Speaker 6:

Horrible segue.

Speaker 2:

Well, no have you ever thrown a yellow flag if you're at an nfl game that's not a yellow flag that's called laundry on the field. If you watch the Seahawks game with all the holding calls, they throw a gazillion yellow flags against you Well.

Speaker 6:

the NFL launches face scanning technology for fans and game day staff in Atlanta at Mercedes-Benz Stadium.

Speaker 2:

Oh boy Okay.

Speaker 6:

Which you have quite the opinion of Keep on reading about it.

Speaker 2:

Idea.

Speaker 6:

The NFL Security Division will pilot a facial authentication system for credentialed working staff and guests who elect to be scanned at six stadiums this season, part of a project that could eventually affect thousands of people in every market. The goal is to ultimately digitize the system by which workers, vendors, media and fans at games prove they are permitted in various parts of a venue at different times. There's a lot of holes in the system, said NFL security Kathy Lanier, who has been developing this project for two years. It's a system that's outdated and has a lot of vulnerabilities. It's easy to pass a fake credential off. It's difficult for security personnel to read a complex credential that's got 27 different codes on it end quote they're talking about the old system.

Speaker 2:

They're talking about the old system, okay.

Speaker 6:

They intend to replace a system of humans examining plastic credentials with a barcode, a user-submitted digital photo and software. This photo will be compared to an actual real-time analysis of the user's face by Wicket, a facial authentication platform partly backed by Browns owner Jimmy ND Haslam and has already been in use by the Cleveland Browns. But who owns this data? How it is secured and is giving access to an NFL security team? The best security practices?

Speaker 3:

Oh boy, Everybody duck and cover.

Speaker 2:

Here it comes All right. So Nick is backstage right now, probably doing this right now. He's like what the heck? Okay, so I used to work at an organization that oversaw an NFL team and a basketball team.

Speaker 2:

An NFL team and a basketball team and their technical staff. I'm not trying to be mean about this staff, but it was far what do I want to say? Far lower than what I would have at most IT private and even public organizations. So there's a scale of IT experts there's high end experts, there's mid-end experts, there's mid-level experts, there's a little bit below state-level experts, and then, at the bottom of some of these barrels, I would probably put the NFL team's IT staffs.

Speaker 2:

I'm just going to say unless this has changed and I know it hasn't because I still know some of the people at this area is an NFL team does not care about its IT security. They do not care at all about the IT security.

Speaker 3:

Well, we've learned on this program that this affects everybody all the time anywhere.

Speaker 2:

But this is what they're going to now have. You're going to give access to the NFL and then local teams access to the NFL and then local teams. You're going to give them access to credit cards that have billing information and where the credit card billing location is which is normally the house of the person You're giving them a picture of a person.

Speaker 2:

You're giving them access to their ticketing system so they know what tickets they purchase and what they don't purchase, and you're doing this just so that you can walk in and enjoy a sporting event. I would be flipping out. I just went to a baseball game by the Major League Baseball team in our area and I did not have to do any facial recognition.

Speaker 2:

I did put my scanned app up to a scan. The illness scanned it and I walked on in and I was like okay, that's okay. But they asked me for my face recognition.

Speaker 3:

I would turn away. Not to mention that facial recognition software, time and time again, fails, over and over again, especially when it comes to certain groups of people.

Speaker 2:

But Odie was excited about it, Whoa whoa whoa.

Speaker 6:

I wasn't excited about it, but personally there is an artist that I've seen multiple times that whenever they go on tour, tickets sell out very quickly and the idea of Is that Taylor Swift. No, it's Harry Styles.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 6:

One of the things that was happening was that people were buying resale tickets and then they would show up to the venue with the ticket and they would say that it was already used. Okay say that it was already used. Okay. So with this facial recognition thing, it would be nice to secure that nobody else can then pack the ticket and go go in for free. Essentially, that's the only nice thing about it you know that this is the problem.

Speaker 3:

This is the problem with this kind of stuff, because it's always a small group of people who are refusing to do what is what is necessary, and then a small group of people who are trying to exploit it. That makes everything bad for everybody else.

Speaker 2:

Right. So in Atlanta now they're all talking about how they could check out beer and you could just look at the face and you walk out. It should be quicker, so I got their ideas.

Speaker 6:

But even then the whole walkout thing, just walk out with your food. That's all a sham as well, it is.

Speaker 2:

It is, and I was at a baseball game and they had this Amazon service and as I walked out, Amazon go. Yeah. And so as I walked out, I said the lady said well, we got that taken care of. Because of the system, we can do everything. They had seven cameras. And I looked at her and I said so you mean, the people from India are going to watch and make sure that when I walk out of this they have it. And the ladies put her head down in shame and said yeah.

Speaker 6:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And so I walked out and I was just, yeah, Well. So I'm going to ask Nick this Do you think an NFL team or the NFL is a great place to have facial pictures with?

Speaker 3:

all of this information, I don't know, is facial. With all of this information, I don't know, is facial recognition really helpful? I'd rather have it on.

Speaker 2:

TikTok. I'll just say this right now I'd have it on TikTok, because at least everybody's concerned about TikTok and has their eyes on TikTok and it's going to be like. This is what I mean. I probably feel safer taking my picture and giving it to China on TikTok, knowing that at least there's some safeguards in there, than the NFL. What am I giving away? What did I click on to give my picture away? Some little thing that said here I go, I can use my likeness, I can do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 3:

I didn't pay any attention to it Okay, calm down, take a breath, not a good water, please, please.

Speaker 6:

I can't see that. I can't see it being it's three years from now.

Speaker 2:

I bet you no because There'll be a requirement. I think there'll be a requirement. No, no, listen.

Speaker 3:

You're kicking a hornet's nest off Hold on.

Speaker 6:

I used to work in retail and people would lose their minds over giving them their phone number.

Speaker 2:

Phone number yeah.

Speaker 6:

You know, imagine giving your face and they would always say, like I don't want people to track, you're already being tracked by the government. You got a phone, you're already being tracked. Yep, it's nothing new.

Speaker 3:

Okay, Breathe people.

Speaker 2:

Breathe my bad. Well, that gets even better with story number three. Huh, michael, what do you got here now, mr?

Speaker 3:

Corday. Oh, I don't know. Do any of you know Jimmy Donaldson?

Speaker 2:

No, who's Jimmy Donaldson?

Speaker 6:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

The YouTube's biggest influencer, Jimmy Donaldson, aka Mr Beast oh, Mr Beast.

Speaker 2:

Well, of course I know, Mr.

Speaker 3:

Beast Okay. He and Amazon's biggest reality star are now facing a 54-page lawsuit. Oh, okay, I don't know if you've heard of this.

Speaker 2:

It's a reality TV program that Amazon has been producing for Mr Beast yeah there's a big—we talked about it in one of our Tech Time stories saying that it was going to come on out that they did this big multi-year deal for this reality show. It's supposed to be the biggest reality show ever with the most money to win.

Speaker 3:

Yes, yes, and this is apparently another example of how these folks sort of overreach themselves. At any rate, five female contestants on the upcoming Prime Video show Beast Games.

Speaker 2:

Beast.

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Games Are launching legal action against his production company, Mr B-24, in Amazon in Los Angeles. Billed as the largest ever reality competition series, a thousand contestants are set to compete for a $5 million prize when the show airs or if it does.

Speaker 2:

The lawsuit has plunged the show into a crisis right now, so we'll see if it ever makes it past that. You know this is horrible because people come on these shows, and I know this for Game Show Etiquette because I used to watch Wheel of Fortune and Price is Right and went in and tried for Price is Right. Do you know that the contestants that do all this filming only get paid after the announcement of the winner itself? So if all these people went to win $5 million and this does not air, that means that contestant will not win the $5 million.

Speaker 3:

That's true, but they also need to be given basic stuff. Okay, I agree, okay.

Speaker 6:

Stuff. Okay, I agree.

Speaker 3:

Okay, so, among many redacted pages, the legal documents includes allegations that they were particularly and collectively suffered in an environment that was systematically fostering a culture of misogyny and sexism. They also have allegations of being overfed or underfed and overtired. Meals were provided sporadically and sparsely, which endangered the health and welfare of the contestants. I've actually been following this for a while, so I've heard this over and over again. Okay, now do you watch a bunch of Mr Beast?

Speaker 2:

videos.

Speaker 3:

I don't know him, I don't like him, I don't watch him, okay.

Speaker 6:

If I may interject, that has to do with the whole reality TV thing that they're being underpaid and undervalued for something that's making them a lot of money. Uh, the same people that the contestants that were on like love is blind and the bachelor are now coming together and actually suing the big companies.

Speaker 3:

I don't think they should sue. I think they should just stop making reality tv shows.

Speaker 6:

They're trash well, no, but they're entertaining, you know, but they should be. What about housewives? Oh my god, I don't like them, you know I think.

Speaker 3:

I think they are the. They are the picture of the worst human, human viewpoints that we can. I'm a reality show junkie.

Speaker 6:

I just don't like the survivor I love survivor those people have come together and they've decided to now make a new guideline of what is needed for those reality TV sets.

Speaker 2:

What happens in Survivor when you're out there and you don't have any rice and any food for like three days.

Speaker 3:

Somebody gives you food. Those people aren't going without food, naked and afraid. Those people aren't going around without some form of protection or medical care. It just is something that makes it look like they are, and then we want to believe it.

Speaker 2:

We want to be a part of that. Okay, all right. Well, what else is going on with this review, anyway?

Speaker 3:

one section where almost all these claims have been redacted from the public view. It says defendants created, permitted to exist and fostered a culture and pattern and practice of sexual harassment in the form of a hostile work environment. Back in August, the New York Times spoke to more than a dozen of the yet unreleased show's participant and reported there were several hospitalizations on the set, with one person telling the paper they had gone for over 20 hours without being fed. Contestants also alleged they had not received their medications on time. Uh, contestants also alleged they had not received their medications on time. Um and um other uh, your word a plethora of other things that have occurred here. Uh. So what's next here? While Mr Beast's fan base has continued growing, controversy is swirling once again. His next move could determine his long-term success. Uh, he's now facing these extra challenges as his fame rises and a lot of the Internet is eagerly awaiting to see what happens.

Speaker 2:

All right. So what do you think should happen?

Speaker 3:

I mean so I've watched a bunch of his videos. I don't know, because as I grow older and as I get more angry at what I see going on around me yeah, I don't see anybody. Anytime anybody starts talking about accountability, it's after the fact.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's never while they're doing it. So what if one of those contestants won the $5 million? Would they be a part of this lawsuit?

Speaker 3:

I don't know If they are participating in something in which there is a fair understanding that there should be things like medication available, food available, whatever the agreement was supposed to be. The production team has to provide certain basic rights.

Speaker 6:

But they're not. This is not the first time that he's come under fire.

Speaker 3:

No, this is not the first time that he's come under fire. No, this is not the first time he has come under fire. He's come under fire quite a few times and so have other. This is one of the problems with our unregulated YouTube verse. Yeah, we have all these people out there generating content, trying to get. They don't have the same FCC.

Speaker 2:

No, exactly that's the problem we have.

Speaker 3:

They're basically trying to get clout and they aren't respecting established rules on how to provide services, and these people are doing crazy things, even illegal things, trying to get people to watch their stuff. So I have a huge problem with these types of things being brought into the mainstream media and then capitalized on without some form of regulatory service helping out the people that are participating in these things.

Speaker 2:

All right Beast games. When it comes on out, are you going to watch it?

Speaker 3:

No, I don't watch any of these things Will you watch it, Odie?

Speaker 6:

No.

Speaker 2:

I probably will.

Speaker 6:

Well, you watch everything.

Speaker 2:

Just to see what it's like for a little bit. My biggest one right now is the Traitors on NBC.

Speaker 3:

I like that, but that's a bunch of reality stars that come back. You know I really obviously you have my opinion on reality shows. I have a very low opinion of them. They're a waste of your time, all right.

Speaker 2:

Well, that ends our top technology stories of the week. When we return, nick Espinosa from Security Fanatics will join us to discuss a ban on connected vehicle tech from China and Russia. Should we be worried? Stay tuned to find out. You're listening to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. See you after this commercial break.

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Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan. Our weekly show covers the top technology subjects without any political agenda. We verify the facts and we do it with a sense of humor, in less than 60 minutes and, of course, a little whiskey on the side. Today, Mark Gregoire, our whiskey connoisseur, is back in the studio. Oh boy, oh boy.

Speaker 3:

I just have one question, mark, why? What did I do to you? What are we?

Speaker 2:

tasting today.

Speaker 8:

Today. My German isn't too good, but I will try. It is Koenig Kirschweiser.

Speaker 2:

That is what it is.

Speaker 8:

It's a cherry brandy Now from Koenig's website. They said this is a blend of sweet and tart cherries, which is the perfect combination for making this classic dry fruit brandy known as Kirschweiser, traditionally used in Swiss cheese fondue. It is a wonderful addition to a variety of sweet and savory recipes. Now, as we mentioned, this is from the Koenig Distillery. They are located in Caldwell, idaho, so this is locally made in the US. This is a fruit brandy or an eau de vie. It's non-aged stated because it's not really aged at all. As you can tell by looking at it. It is 84 proof. The mash bill is made from cherries, water and yeast Pretty simple, and it's $26.

Speaker 3:

It tastes like $26. Oh wow.

Speaker 2:

We've only had one other thing on this show that tastes this bad, and that's Canadian mist.

Speaker 3:

There was one that was worse than Canadian mist. I don't remember what it was. Oh, there was one. I totally blocked it.

Speaker 8:

So it sounds like you're not going to agree with my mumbles a little bit and my empty glass.

Speaker 2:

I already have how could you drink this stuff?

Speaker 8:

This is one of the fastest. I've finished something.

Speaker 2:

You know what you may have two more glasses for me, early. This is one of the fastest.

Speaker 8:

I've finished something, you know what.

Speaker 2:

You may have two more glasses for me, okay.

Speaker 3:

Well, to be upfront about it, I'm not a big brandy person. Anyway, I don't like brandy. Okay, and this one doesn't really change my opinion. If you cook with it, fine, you're cooking sherrys, cooking brandies, that makes sense.

Speaker 2:

Probably in a cheese fondue. I'd like this.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm not a drinker.

Speaker 2:

This is going to be tough to get through, all of this.

Speaker 8:

I'm not going to Okay, all right.

Speaker 2:

I guess this has to do.

Speaker 8:

That's okay, Mark.

Speaker 2:

We did not run out of whiskey. We have tons more whiskey. So it has to do something with the day today.

Speaker 8:

Is that why it's here? Ding, ding, ding ding. Nathan's getting smart. When it's non-whiskey, it's usually related to the day. All right Especially if it's on my shelf, there you go. Fondue day.

Speaker 6:

You just got to get through it, Mike.

Speaker 2:

That's fine, With our first whiskey nope, With our first brandy tasting completed. Let's move on to our feature segment Today, our technology expert, Nick Es Windy City Networks, which was later acquired in 2015. He then created Security Fanatics, where he is the chief security fanatic. We welcome Nick to the Comcast video stream to start our next segment.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to the segment we call Ask the Experts with our Tech Time Radio expert, Nick Espinoza.

Speaker 2:

All right, nick Hi.

Speaker 1:

Nick.

Speaker 2:

I'm glad you're not tasting this brandy.

Speaker 5:

Oh, wow. So for the record, that is pronounced Kunich. Kunich, that's how you pronounce it in German. Okay, it's Kunich.

Speaker 2:

What about the longer word?

Speaker 5:

okay, cunic, all right so I I didn't catch that one because I don't know what the word is, but that's how you pronounce the first word yeah you don't want to.

Speaker 2:

You don't need to pronounce much on this. Let me just tell you there has to be some special day for this, because this stuff is nasty. All right, nick. Well, how are you doing? Thank you for joining our show again. How have you been?

Speaker 5:

Just living the hack and dream. Living the hack and dream, there's so much now.

Speaker 2:

I remember when we first started this show for almost five years ago and hacking was out there for information Two or three pages. You can find the information. It wasn't any mainstream stories. Now you can just go to bleeping computers, I mean you can find it everywhere. But we have you on to help us distinguish what's real, what's not real and what's going on. So we got a lot to cover today. Let's get started. The US proposed a ban on connected vehicle tech from China and Russia. Explain what's this all about, nick.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, and actually I think this one makes a good amount of sense and essentially what the government said in their statement, and I'll quote real quick. The proposed rule focuses on hardware and software integrated into vehicle connectivity systems and software integrated into automated driving systems. These are the critical systems that, through specific hardware and software, allow for external connectivity and autonomous driving capabilities in connected vehicles. Now, basically what they're talking about here is Russia and China could potentially capture sensitive data like GPS locations and also remotely manipulate cars on American roads. Think about it this way of mine before the pandemic that's how far back this goes from about two miles away on a test track hijacked a Jeep Grand Cherokee and was able to slam on the brakes and essentially make it do things that the Jeep and the driver of the Jeep Grand Cherokee essentially didn't want it to do.

Speaker 5:

Cars are so interconnected and as we come up with autonomous driving systems look at Tesla and their wondrous perfect never had a problem automated vehicle system Imagine a foreign country being able to hack into that, like the president's limo, for example, and have it drive off a bridge.

Speaker 5:

So this is actually a really good thing, I think overarchingly and it really basically dovetails with what is known originally as the McCain Act, which said there are specific technologies in China and from other foreign countries that are not allowed to be integrated into US government systems, but this is going nationwide. Imagine every Tesla being able to be hijacked and then blow every red light you know in the country, causing mass chaos. So that's what we're talking about here. I think this is obviously a really good thing and, essentially, the import and sale of vehicles with this autonomous uh, you know, the systems would essentially be prohibited, uh, you know, with technology from russia and china, uh, so I think that is a really good thing that was in a movie too, I don't know it's called uh, leave the world behind I wasn't, I've never, never seen it, never seen it, it has a.

Speaker 3:

It has a scene where all these Teslas are just speeding down the highway and crashing.

Speaker 5:

Oh, I did see that. Yeah, there's like this whole big backup of crashed Teslas.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, would you? I wouldn't buy a Tesla to begin with, and I wouldn't buy a Cybertruck if ever my life depended upon it, nor would I. Yeah, okay, so is there going to be some type of regulation? Do you think Nick is going to come on out that? Says that you pass this amount and then you don't do this amount and this. These cars are good, but these cars are not, and yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5:

So I think what's going to happen is essentially what they're going to do is tack on to the McCain bill for this and essentially say we're going to carve out a specific subset of this. Now, interestingly enough, if you want to talk about bipartisanship in the US government, when it's come to security, or rather cybersecurity in this case, it's usually been pretty bipartisan. At the end of the Trump administration almost unanimously because you know there's a couple of cranks that are always going to hold out right in Congress but almost unanimously they voted for an IoT security bill to protect the government, and so this is kind of low hanging fruit, and both Republicans and Democrats are pretty much on board with stuff like this, so I totally see this passing.

Speaker 2:

Okay, perfect, all right, that's good. It's nice to see that our government can sometimes work together. All right.

Speaker 3:

Next we're going to talk about meta banning.

Speaker 2:

Russian state media outlet RT over foreign interference activity. Explain what the story is about. Now, Meta is deciding to police their own content. What is this about?

Speaker 5:

Yeah, so full disclosure here, and I have to admit this to the audience. I've actually appeared on RT while it was still on the air in the United States. Okay, and for the record, I was young and needed the money. But here's what it is. And, for the record, I never got paid by RT. That was a hundred percent a joke. But uh, but um. Jesse, jesse Ventura, jesse the body, jesse brain brain. Ventura used to have a show and I was a quasi regular on that show talking about cybersecurity things. Never, for the record, berated the government. But here we are and hey, the dude was in Predator, so I had to do it. So here's what's going on with this. Just wanted to be fully transparent.

Speaker 5:

Meta is actually banning RT, as you mentioned, but they're also banning others Rossiya, segonya and some other Russian state media outlets from their platforms and Meta's platforms obviously TikTok, facebook, instagram threads, whatsapp, all that kind of stuff and basically they're saying that these outlets are using deceptive tactics to carry out covert influence operations online.

Speaker 5:

In other words, water is wet, the sky is blue and today ends in Y.

Speaker 5:

So this is long overdue and this ban, which obviously Putin and the Kremlin aren't a fan of, so naturally we should be fans of it.

Speaker 5:

This is a huge escalation in terms of the world's largest social media platform that is essentially against Russian state media, and this is after years, years of just limited steps, blocking outlets, all this kind of stuff. This blanket ban is way overdue and prior to the ban, for the record, rt here in the United States, or I should say globally, had more than 7.2 million followers on Facebook and more than 1 million followers on Instagram, and RT is still running, even though essentially under the First Amendment and this is interesting after the invasion of Ukraine, the United States government did not outlaw RT, but the private corporations that distribute content, such as ABC, nbc, rt, et cetera, et cetera, chose to drop them, and so they effectively ended the operations across the United States. Remember, if they didn't, rt would still be on the air here because we have a First Amendment that protects them. And so here we are. I think this is a great move again, because Facebook, quite frankly, is the largest purveyor of disinformation on the planet. And so here we go, so we'll see what happens.

Speaker 2:

All right. Well, you know what? We don't get any easier. We're going to go right into an Android malware issue that has affected 11 million devices. Uh all because of the google play store.

Speaker 5:

Explain what's going on with this right now yeah, so the infection we're talking about is necro, as in necromancer, necronomicon, whatever whatever you want at necro. Now this has honestly been around for a while, but it's making news again because, like all effective malicious software, it got a huge upgrade and deployment. Now, essentially what Necro does and heads up Android users although, to be fair, iphone users, you've got your own issues with infections as well, so listen up as well. Necro basically installs several different what we call payloads into your device and then activates various malicious things. So, for example, it will load adware, both visible and invisible, into your phone. It can execute remote commands to make your phone download things or make your phone do things that you don't want it to do, such as sideload or install other applications, send data out all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 5:

It also has built-in tools that are specifically designed to facilitate subscription fraud, so it can sign you up for things, potentially, that you don't want, therefore dinging your account because you might have Google Wallet or Apple Pay or Samsung Pay or any one of the online payment services and it also has mechanisms that use infected devices as proxies to route malicious traffic.

Speaker 5:

So you think you're going to Googlecom wherever you're going and it's actually taking you somewhere else that might look like where you're supposed to go, but then have the ability to steal more of your information, and it's been seen in the wild already. So where it was first caught was on two different apps in the Google Play Store, which is Wuda Camera by a company called BenQ company called BenQ. This is a photo editing and beautification tool that has over 10 million downloads, and another one called Max Browser by a company called WA or W-A Message Recover W-A-M-R and that right. There should be a flag for anybody, but apparently not for a million people, because they downloaded it basically until Google Play removed it, but that doesn't take it off from the device.

Speaker 2:

Once you load it on the device, it's got the executables on there, even if you uninstall it. That application the other applications that load it on the back end are already loaded in there.

Speaker 3:

Well, what happens if I were like that one guy who just downloaded all those things and now it's on my phone?

Speaker 2:

So if your phone gets infected, the only thing you can do is you can restart over on your phone and you have to reload all your apps Now what's nice? About this is, if you do have a Google account, it'll save what applications you had on there, so as long as you knew what application it was, you could remove it first. Then you restart your phone and come all back over brand new, and then it'll probably be running 10 times quicker, and then you don't have it. That's the only way to do it.

Speaker 5:

That's. The other issue, though, too, is because Necro sideloads no-transcript with these kinds of things, and so, in order for it to maintain persistence, it has to load multiple other things. So even if you delete the Wuda camera or the Mac's browser, it still has a lot of stuff on the computer excuse me, on your phone that may simply just be reinstalled again. Our default recommendation and it sucks is to reinstall from scratch. That's also why every brand new phone I get is a total pain in the butt to set up, because I never restore from backups. I always restore fresh, and I look at it as a way of like look, I've got 30 apps, whatever on my phone. Do I use all 30? No, let's get rid of 10. Right, so it's a good cleaning process, but it is time consuming.

Speaker 2:

That's why it takes me a while to buy a new phone. Yeah, so. I'll keep my iPhone that I have for six, seven years, so that by the time I have to do it again. I did it.

Speaker 5:

It's like a weekend, it's like a weekend.

Speaker 3:

You got to do the same thing when you get a new computer.

Speaker 2:

It sucks too right. You get a new Windows computer. You don't have any of your applications, you have none of your shortcuts there and you have to do the same exact thing.

Speaker 3:

I don't know. I kind of, I kind of weird out when I get a brand new computer.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, yeah, fresh, oh really, yeah, all right. Well, nick, we talked about this on our last show and we need to talk about it. We had viewers clamming to see when you're going to be on again to talk about it. We have an election coming up here in the coming weeks.

Speaker 5:

We do.

Speaker 2:

Indeed, we would like to talk a little bit about election fraud, not election fraud. Security devices, voting machines, communication devices depending on which side of the spectrum you are here, left or right. There's all this media out there that voting machines are rigged to. These things are being compromised and Russia is helping this person and not helping this person. Let's break this down and talk about what is happening for our election, what is safe and what is not.

Speaker 5:

Sure, sure. So I think, first it it's important to understand that. You know, while we do have a space laser problem, we've got that well under control. You know Israel's playing nice with that. No, to be perfectly honest, this is something that is kind of near and dear to my heart, because I have, in past elections, consulted on election integrity, all these kinds of things as well, and I think it's important to understand that almost any system has a vulnerability, but a vulnerability does not mean a hack has occurred or malfeasance has occurred. So, nathan, I can teach you how to rob a bank. That doesn't mean you rob the bank, right?

Speaker 5:

I can leave my doors unlocked in my car overnight outside, that doesn't mean somebody opened a door and stole my radio, and I think it's important to understand that and that is essentially lost in the fray. And so, when we were talking about voting machines, it's also important to note that voting machines have two critical things for security that help to ensure that they are secure. One, they are essentially never plugged into the internet themselves, and the hacking that you see when Equifax gets breached or Marriott or whoever it's over the internet, which means you need physical access to a voting machine to really tamper with it, which means a lot of manpower would be required. The Russians would have plane loads of people coming over here to tamper with voting machines, and that simply is very difficult because voting machines, for the most part, are stored in places that have physical security, such as county or district buildings that have locks on doors, cameras, all this kind of stuff. In other words, if you're going to hack an election electronically, it is incredibly difficult to do, even if you, let's say, were able to break into the voting machine vendor itself. And let's say, were able to break into the voting machine vendor itself and, let's say, poison an update that got out to various machines as well. A lot of the voting machines are not updated with regular frequency and so, by virtue of that, those updates that could potentially be poisoned and again, there's zero evidence that any of those updates were poisoned also wouldn't hit the fleet. On top of it, what you would be looking at is strategically targeted attacks against specific locations.

Speaker 5:

So think about it this way If, all of a sudden, you know, like I don't know the state of California voted 90-10 Trump, or Mississippi voted 90-10 Harris, that would be a huge red flag, right, Because we know like, traditionally and statistically okay, there are going to be more Democrats in California, there are going to be more Republicans in Mississippi. Pick your state right and so anomalies are very easy to spot. And when you're looking at election integrity from and again, this isn't political, this is just simply fact. I don't care what you believe. You know you could love or hate Trump or Harris, I don't care.

Speaker 5:

But if you look at the aftermath of the 2020 election, again, forgetting the rhetoric, forgetting all of that, they had multiple recounts, multiple certifications and even one political side, which was the Republicans on that side brought in some group called the Cyber Ninjas, which were hired by them, meaning this was not an independent audit in any way and they couldn't find any problems and they had every reason to find issues to basically support the literal political party that hired them. And so, as we are looking at this, we have not really seen any voter fraud. I know I'm going to get hate mail over this because every time I talk about this on my own podcast and show it's hate mail this is important, because there isn't right, I mean.

Speaker 2:

So what-?

Speaker 3:

This is mostly because of how people process information and broadcast information, but there isn't it. Right Information so, but there is, it'd be so difficult.

Speaker 2:

You'd have to hack into that one little polling middle school and hack into each of those machines there and that would take hours on hours to do. It's and it's just impossible impossible.

Speaker 5:

But to Mike's point, the biggest problem that we potentially have is what Facebook just addressed. What I just talked about is voter manipulation through disinformation, whether it's deep fakes, whether it's a fake article where somebody is on the fence Maybe I'll vote for Trump, maybe I'll vote for Harris, you know whatever and they hear news that is demonstrably false, that pushes them one way or the other. We saw specific targeting disinformation in multiple now multiple presidential elections that were targeting, let's say, swing states and other areas where the voting population could go one way or the other, potentially swinging a state for one of the candidates. That's the biggest issue because confirmation bias kicks in.

Speaker 5:

We have an issue with what's called the liar's dividend.

Speaker 5:

So perfect example the Lieutenant Governor of North Carolina that's running for governor.

Speaker 5:

He seems to be a lot in the news for saying some pretty terrible things like 10 years ago and he is right now claiming some multi-million dollar artificial intelligence attack deep fake on him. That is planting evidence everywhere. The liar's dividend states that because we, the population, understand that this is potential, you know, has the potential to be true the liar in this case gets the benefit of the doubt that maybe it is, and people right now in North Carolina, for example, could be seeing this and saying, well, yeah, I've heard of deep fakes, I've heard of artificial intelligence. So clearly Mark Robinson, lieutenant Governor, governor running is probably right and therefore I'm still going to vote for him when maybe they wouldn't. And so this is a huge problem that we have, more so than any voting booth or voting machine issue that that we could potentially see and again, you know, just in an advisory role and in a consulting role in previous elections for election integrity. I have yet to see that, and I'm a professional hacker, you know. So this is really near and dear to my heart.

Speaker 2:

All right, so you should be safe. That is what we're telling you here on Tech Time Radio Technology. Whether it comes out that you voted this way or that way, the technology that we're using is as safe as it could ever be in today's standards. All right, nick. Thank you so much for coming on the show. It's always a pleasure. How can people find out more about you and get in touch with you off of Tech Time Radio?

Speaker 5:

Yeah, well, outside of watching RT internationally, I kid you can like share. Follow me Facebook Twitter at Nick AESP YouTube as well. Come say hi, I love hanging out.

Speaker 2:

All right, thank you so much. Bye nick. Bye nick. See you in a month. Well, that ends our ask. The expert with nick espinoza. Now up we have mike's mesmerizing moment. Welcome to mike's mesmerizing moment. What does mike have to say today? All right, here's our mesmerizing moment. After face scanning becomes the norm in society, what will be next?

Speaker 3:

We talked about this last night. I don't know why you like me to answer these questions.

Speaker 2:

This is funny because you gave us some crazy ideas. What do you think is going to be next after face scanning?

Speaker 3:

We can just look to our media centers to find out what people are thinking about, like Gattaca. You remember that movie where you had to basically prick your finger to get into this place because they scan your DNA. You know, I think we'll see some olfactory things come out that supposedly detect your unique scent. Okay, we also have those DNA sniffers that some folks are using in law enforcement. Okay, those are the next things you think after we all put our faces out there.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we're going to keep coming up with these swell ways of overcoming security issues that supposedly exist or not.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. All right, well, we're going to take our last commercial break here. When we return, we have this Week in Technology. See you after this. Hey, mike, yeah, what's up? Hey, so you know what. We need people to start liking our social media page, if you like our show, if you really like us we could use your support on Patreoncom, or is it Patreon?

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And now let's look back at this week in technology.

Speaker 2:

All right, we're going to September 23rd 2008. The first Android was introduced with the T-Mobile G1. Google and T-Mobile introduced the T-Mobile G1, the HTC Dream the world's first Android-based smartphone, released for $179 with a two-year contract to T-Mobile. The Dream was the first commercially released device developed on the Google OS. Today, android is the most popular smart phone platform based on raw sales. That was this week in technology. If you ever wanted to watch some Tech Time history, with over 200 weekly broadcasts spanning four plus years of video podcasts and blog information, visit us at techtimeradiocom to watch our older shows. Now we're going to move right into the Mark's Mumble.

Speaker 1:

The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's Whiskey Mumble.

Speaker 8:

And for September 24th.

Speaker 6:

Cherry's Jubilee Sounds great.

Speaker 4:

Bring the young vandal here. Cherry's Jubilee.

Speaker 2:

Okay, what was that from Cherry's Jubilee?

Speaker 3:

I don't know what was it that?

Speaker 8:

was from a movie.

Speaker 3:

Okay, what's the name of the movie? The Holdovers? The Holdovers.

Speaker 8:

I don't think I've ever seen her. I don't think I've ever watched that movie.

Speaker 3:

Okay, what's the name of the movie? The Holdovers, the Holdovers. I don't think I've ever seen her. I don't think I've ever watched that movie, neither have I oh recent movie.

Speaker 8:

I believe that was last year.

Speaker 2:

Okay, was it a good movie? Yeah, it was pretty good, all right, tell us what we got on the mumbles here.

Speaker 8:

There must be some tie-in to this. Well, jubilee.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, is that what today is? That's what today is Cherry Jubilee.

Speaker 8:

Cherry Day, cherry Jubilee Day. Oh, okay, so today celebrates a very unique dessert that deserves more love. Oh, cherry Jubilee is a dish that involves cherries and liqueur, usually a brandy or the courvois. Courvois, sir, courvois sir. Which we were drinking today. So cherries are simply poached in a sugary syrup and served with a warm brandy, which is set on fire for a dramatic presentation, and it is served. Cherry Jubilee was first served at one of the Jubilee celebrations of Queen Victoria, and the popularity for the dessert skyrocketed during her reign.

Speaker 3:

Everything skyrocketed because Victoria liked it. That's right, she liked it, everybody did right.

Speaker 8:

She liked it. Everybody did it, everybody did it. Okay Now Kirschwasser also known as Kirsch which I prefer is usually drunk neat is traditionally served in a very small glass and is taken as an aperitif. And is taken as an aperitif. It is believed to have originated in the black forest regions of Germany in the 1600s, by local farmers and craftsmen who were looking for ways to protect cherries from going stale over the course of the winter. In German, the phrase Kirschwascher literally translates to cherry water. Now, for me, this spirit is delightful to sip on occasionally, and can be added to cocktails to make it more interesting. My favorite way to enjoy this spirit, though, is in Cherry Jubilee, with a little ice cream on the side.

Speaker 2:

Maybe the Cherry Jubilee would be okay, and it's easy to make at home.

Speaker 8:

Now one quick tip if you do make this dessert, okay, don't use frozen cherries. Why is that? Use fresh cherries, it turns out better.

Speaker 2:

Is that because there's all?

Speaker 3:

the water in the frozen cherries, because everything he said is something I will never do, and also, don't burn your place down, yeah. I don't need that happening again. All right, okay.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know what? Now I think we need to move directly into the Nathan Nugget.

Speaker 1:

This is your.

Speaker 2:

Nugget of the Week. All right, we, the Nathan Nugget. This is your Nugget of the Week. All right, we tease this. Do you know, on the Boeing Starliner, astronauts are expected to enjoy Election Day with their votes? Do you know that NASA in 1997 passed a legislative bill that if you're in the Texas area, you're allowed to get a special Texas election code and vote? So that means our astronauts up in space that were stranded on the space station will still get their chance to vote without rigged voting machines, as Nick just talked about. All right, let's now move into our pick of the day.

Speaker 1:

And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings. Let's see what bubbles to the top.

Speaker 8:

We're drinking a Cherry Brandy. Kunig Kirschweiser, kirschweiser 84 approved $26. Basically, it's like we said Cherry Brandy.

Speaker 2:

Kirschweiser.

Speaker 8:

What you Okay.

Speaker 2:

All right, Mike. What are you getting over to here? Do you get a thumbs up or a thumbs?

Speaker 3:

down. No, no, bad Thumbs down.

Speaker 2:

Thumbs down yeah 82 thumbs downs.

Speaker 3:

Oh wow, I don't like it. No, I don't like it at all. It doesn't hit my palate.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to put a thumbs down too.

Speaker 3:

It's been a while since you've had two Put it in chairs on fire. I don't know if I'll do anything other than that. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I was looking for whiskey and I got no whiskey. I'm going to have to get one down at the after show event to make sure I get the whiskey.

Speaker 3:

No offense to all the you know brandy lovers out there. That's just not my thing.

Speaker 2:

Just think if our show was, we tasted brandy instead of whiskey.

Speaker 8:

You'd be more cultured, I'd be more cultured, I'd be more cultured, I'd be buttermilk.

Speaker 2:

But you know what? We want to thank everybody for listening to our show listeners. We want to hear from you. Visit techtimeradiocom and click on Be A Caller, so you can talk about all of your technology needs. Join us next week on the show where bytes collide, circuits sing and geeks reign supreme. I'm your host, nathan Mumm, signing off with a Binary Week. See you next week Later. Bye-bye, bye-bye.

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