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221: California's Speed Tech Bill, Fusion Power Breakthroughs, and Gwen's Gadgets and Gear Review of FLARE. Plus, Discover How Powerful Lasers Could Revolutionize our Power Grids | Air Date: 9/8 - 9/14/24

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Curious about how California's new speed assistance technology bill could reshape driving? Tune in to this episode of TechTime Radio with Nathan Mumm, where we dissect the pros and cons of this controversial legislation. Safety advocates herald it as a lifesaver, while critics worry it could be a distraction. We also delve into the latest news stories, such as charges against white supremacist chat group leaders and the increasing trend of online news consumption, offering a nuanced perspective on each.

Get ready for an electrifying discussion on the future of energy as we explore the groundbreaking advancements in fusion power. Discover how powerful lasers and magnetic confinement could revolutionize our power grids by the mid-2030s. Plus, we take a quirky detour with a story about an airline's unusual plane rebalancing act and the rise of blunt out-of-office replies.

Our Gadgets and Gear expert, Gwen Way, introduces the Flare, the ultimate peer-to-peer messaging device for off-grid adventures. Meanwhile, whiskey connoisseur Mark Gregoire joins us for a taste test of Old Forrester 100 Proof single barrel compared to its standard shelf counterpart. Don't miss our nostalgic trip back to the iPod Nano launch, our celebration of National TV Dinner Day, and our regular segments like Mike's mesmerizing moment and the technology fail of the week. Join us for an hour of tech talk, insightful discussions, and a dash of whiskey culture.

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Broadcasting across the nation, from the East Coast to the West, keeping you up to date on technology while enjoying a little whiskey on the side, with leading-edge topics, along with special guests to navigate technology in a segmented, stylized radio program. The information that will make you go mmmm. Pull up a seat, raise a glass with our hosts as we spend the next hour talking about technology for the common person. Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm.

Nathan Mumm:

Welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm, the show that makes you go. Technology news of the week. The show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mumm, your host technologist with over 30 years of technology expertise. Our co-host, mike Roday, is in studio today. He's an award-winning author and a human behavior expert. Now, of course, we are live streaming during our show on four of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, twitchtv, facebook and LinkedIn. We encourage you to visit us online at techtimeradiocom and become a Patreon supporter at patreoncom forward slash techtimeradio. We are friends from different backgrounds, but we bring the best technology show possible weekly for our family, friends and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have ODR producer at the control panel today. Welcome everyone. Let's start the show.

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Now on today's show.

Nathan Mumm:

Today on Tech Time with Nathan Mumm, buckle up as we drive into the latest technology news and stories. Here's what we have coming up on the show today. We unravel the shocking charges against the leaders of a notorious white supremacist chat group. Peer into the seismic shift as online news consumption overtakes television and ponder whether powerful lasers could be the key to unlocking cheap fusion power. And ponder whether powerful lasers could be the key to unlocking cheap fusion power. We also explore the curious case of an airline force to rebalance planes due to heavy first-class seats and the rise of a brutal, honest out-of-office replies. Finally, we will debate whether your car should be warning you when you're speeding. In addition, we have our standard features, including Mike's mesmerizing moment technology fail of the week, a possible Nathan nugget and, of course, our pick of the day whiskey tasting. The CFR selected whiskey pick gets zero, one or two thumbs up at the end of the show. But now it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology.

Speaker 1:

Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm:

All right Story number one Should your car warn you that you're speeding? California lawmakers vote yes, but let's go to Corrine Westland for more on this story.

Speaker 4:

Safety advocates say speed assistance technology can reduce traffic deaths, but critics say California is moving too fast. When California State Senator Scott Weiner introduced a bill to limit speeding earlier this year, he expected some pushback. To understand the bill, it helps to know how speed assistance technology works. There's an active version, which can physically stop drivers from exceeding the speed limit, but there's also a passive version of speed assistance that only warns the driver when they're going too fast. The bill approved by the California legislature over the weekend would require all new cars sold in the state to warn drivers if they're going more than 10 miles per hour over the speed limit.

Nathan Mumm:

Back to you in the studio, so this is interesting it's called the Wiener Bill. Well, that's the name of the individual in California, that's correct. The bill has, though, some big backers, including the National Transportation Safety Board. Now, broad deployment of intelligent speed assistance would reduce the frequency of speeding and speed-relating crashes, saving lives and preventing injuries. The NTSB wrote in support of the California bill and we applaud you for pursuing this policy.

Nathan Mumm:

Critics of the California bill say it's too much, too soon. The technology is not perfect. Jay Bieber said in the interview. You're going to have a lot of false positives. It's easy for speed assistance technology to get confused, bieber said, especially between highways and nearby surface streets with vastly different speed limits. He thinks that it will be annoying and potential distraction for drivers. Unfortunately, your cars right now are all kinds of business going on to distract us. Beaver said I think this increasing distracted driving will cause worse problems.

Nathan Mumm:

The auto industry doesn't like the speed assistance bill either. Speed assistance systems rely on clear and visible speed limit signs placed at regular intervals to function properly, wrote the Alliance for Automation Innovation, an industry trade group that is actually opposing this bill. California, though, is a huge market for car makers, and Bailey Chapman says the state is trying to bully its way into setting policy for the whole country. We believe that the authority for regulators stands firmly within the federal government. She said All right, so let's talk about this. Listeners, what do you think? Text us back or leave a comment on our live stream, but, mike, I'll go to you. What do you think about this bill that California is looking to impose?

Mike Gorday:

I think California is overstepping its boundaries. Okay, and why would that be? Well, let me ask you a question Do you want your car to have a governor?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, this is just the passive way. Yeah, this is going to put up like a light. It's going to put up a light or some type of alert.

Mike Gorday:

This is the first version right this is the version that we're going to make you do, and then, when you keep not doing that, then we're going to pass a law that makes you do this version, which is the governor. Because I don't know. I don't know.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't know if you could actually do that, though Right Cause. Now, all of a sudden, you're taking the driving away and we just had an individual get a ticket to try to put his Tesla in cruise mode and not drive Right. So as soon as you start adding in the actual ability to cut down your speed limit, that's altering your driving abilities.

Mike Gorday:

I don't know if that's going to ever. I think this is a pretext by California to start institutionalizing more and more harsher rules. I I'm California is kind of known for over-regulating just about everything, so you know, it's not a surprise that this is coming out of California.

Nathan Mumm:

Now, let's just say, you now get warning lights on your car and vehicles.

Mike Gorday:

I don't need any extra warning lights. I already ignore the ones I already get. Do you already ignore the ones?

Nathan Mumm:

So if you have, like it says, low tire pressure, I got that on the way here I had to stop and look at my tire, did you? Was your tire, okay, yeah, it's fine. The sensors, the sensor busted, all right so you get.

Mike Gorday:

So then you have to go in the less schwab or whatever car dealership and pay 200.

Nathan Mumm:

You pay attention to your fasten seat belt sign. Uh no, it might automatically.

Mike Gorday:

I'm bad at wearing a seat belt right, I'm bad. Here's a. Here's a tyree kill have something in common yeah, here's a human, here's a human behavior thing. Okay, uh, you, you don't hear it anymore, do you? I very rarely, do you actually hear, because that you know, that thing goes off every like 15, 20 minutes right like every 30 seconds so we have my green car.

Nathan Mumm:

It doesn't stop until I actually put on a seat belt. So I actually have to seat belt myself and you can do like we used to do in the old days and just seat belt it behind you.

Mike Gorday:

Oh, just put so I actually have to seatbelt myself and you can do like we used to do in the old days and just seatbelt it behind you.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, just put no, I actually put it on so, but. But it only takes me a minute or two to get there one of the problems?

Mike Gorday:

one of the problems is desensitization is that, uh, when you are constantly bombarded with all these messages, you start ignoring them. Your, your attention literally blinds them out. Okay, so you don't like that.

Nathan Mumm:

I'm actually really after I read the bill, which I spent some time doing today. I actually am pretty for it, just on the warning aspects, because he originally came on out and he was going to try to pass a more active way of doing that and he changed it to be passive. That's what I'm saying. I don't know. I don't mind the passive I guess I'd be okay with passive I just don't think they're going to go active because now, all of a sudden, you're making your car.

Mike Gorday:

This is a pretext.

Nathan Mumm:

This is a pretext.

Mike Gorday:

This is what happens if I'm my car is driving really slow and I get pulled over by a cop and I say it's regulated, then they're going to be okay with that. I have no idea. I don't know how that even factors into this conversation.

Nathan Mumm:

The worst case scenario is, if they ever did get fully active, then it's going to slow you down.

Mike Gorday:

Well, california is going to become a wasteland. Everybody leaves California, like they're already doing.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, we want to hear your comments. If you think this is a good idea, go online to techtimeradiocom and post a comment on our episode or in our live stream and we'll see what you guys think about. We'll read some of those on the air too, if we get those during our show today. Now we're going to go to story number two, od. What do you got information for us about?

Gwen Way:

so in a recent survey. Online overtakes tv of news habits okay, explain that to me um, so online has, for the first time, overtaken television.

Gwen Way:

In an annual survey, uh of the uk's news habits, research by the broadcast regulator, offcom reveals 71 of the population said they used online services for news, versus 70 of who watched tv news bulletins. Over the the last year, online sources grew from 68% to 71%, while social media also saw a rise from 47% to 52%. For people aged between 16 and 24, the number saying they use social media for news was 82%. The most commonly mentioned online news sources were Facebook, youtube and Instagram. The survey, however, does not measure the usage of specific sites. The BBC 1.2 billion visits and CNN 710 million visits are two of the largest news websites worldwide. Both saw significant increases in traffic over the last year. The source that saw the biggest increase is YouTube 19% of those surveys say that they use it for news, and in 2023, it was just 7%. However, traditional newspapers saw a big decline shocker, with even those over 55 saying they read a print newspaper dropping from 38% to 32% in just a year.

Mike Gorday:

I'm actually rather surprised that that number hasn't happened sooner, hasn't been sooner.

Nathan Mumm:

So where do you get your information?

Mike Gorday:

From my computer. I look online while I'm supposed to be working. I'll check the news out, okay, I don't watch tv. So I mean I use my television for streaming services so I don't get ads, unless it's youtube, which I hate.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay but uh. So when's the last time you've watched local news? Years, and years, yeah, I I just turned it on and watched an episode Was it last weekend? And I was like, wow, I have not watched local news in quite some time. I get most of my information. I got CNN I mean, I kind of try to do the balance area I got CNN, msnbc and then I go to Fox news so that I have three different areas to see the story.

Mike Gorday:

And it's great because all three newscasts have all three different stories about the same thing, so I then I can kind of pick and choose which one I want to do from which one you want to believe in. Yeah, that's exactly what I got going the truth will set you free.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, all right. Well, let's go to story number three.

Gwen Way:

Thank you, odia, you don't watch any television I don't, you know, I grew up, uh, with my dad always hating the weather guy.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, that, that's my experience so he hated the weather guy he really hated the way everybody hates the weather guy is the only guy that can be wrong every single day and still come back.

Gwen Way:

Yeah that's what he would. He would literally watch, stand in front of the tv, listen to his report and then be like let's see tomorrow, and then it's completely wrong. That was his favorite. That's what I remember about okay that's cool.

Nathan Mumm:

Um, my kids may remember the same thing, so I did kind of the same yeah I don't know what that is about.

Gwen Way:

Dads with the news that's a dad thing.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, because you're supposed to be accurately reporting stuff. So if you're a news weather person or you come out with a say well, there's a possibility of rain or could be sun breaks and their highs can be 30 degrees we don't need you to educate us on how

Gwen Way:

to do a weather report there I usually get my news from google or tiktok, depending on what is like if it's a, for example, whenever there's a natural disaster and there's people on the ground, who are the civilians, documenting what happened to their homes yeah it's up on TikTok. That's how I'm getting my news. Okay, so that.

Nathan Mumm:

That was the Ukrainian war and Russian war was really interesting on TikTok and on the social media platforms with reels like Facebook too, because they'd have people post up.

Mike Gorday:

Sometimes they stayed up on Facebook. It's sort of a bad news. Bad news that people are getting their news from Facebook.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, yeah, it's never really positive, is it?

Gwen Way:

No, it's.

Nathan Mumm:

I've never seen anybody on Facebook say I'm really excited about this news information. I said it's always like I hate this person.

Mike Gorday:

I hate this person Zoom scrolling.

Nathan Mumm:

That's right. All right, let's go to story number three. We're going to talk about fusion.

Mike Gorday:

Ok, OK, the question is could powerful lasers unlock cheap fusion power Now? Back in the 80s the US conducted secret nuclear weapons research in the Nevada desert.

Nathan Mumm:

I'm sure you know that I've read lots of stuff that's been released. I hope most people know that Cheyenne Mountain if you ever watched Stargate was kind of taken off of the same Cheyenne Mountain.

Mike Gorday:

You just can't not put some reference to a science fiction show.

Nathan Mumm:

I can't. That's exactly right. That's right. I can continue on, sorry.

Mike Gorday:

Among the experiments was an effort to see if we could generate nuclear fusion, which is the reaction which powers the sun, and put it into a controlled setting. The experiments were classified, but it was widely known among physicists that the results were promising. The los alamos lab was originally set up in 1943 as a top secret site which that's in new mexico, by the way, not nevada, uh top top secret site to develop the first nuclear weapons. Located near Santa Fe, it is now a US government research and development facility. If fusion can be harnessed, it promises abundant electricity that is generated without producing a ton of CO2. Those tests back in the 80s led the US government building the National Ignition Facility in California, a project to see if nuclear fuel pellets could be ignited using a powerful laser. After more than a decade of work, in late 2022, researchers at NIF made a breakthrough which we reported on. Scientists conducted the first controlled fusion experiment to produce more energy from the reaction than that supplied by the lasers which sparked it. That's the main, that's the main focus here.

Nathan Mumm:

Is it the lasers have to be less than the energy that the amount?

Mike Gorday:

of energy it takes to create the reaction is less than the the energy produced by the reaction. There are two main approaches Smashing a fuel pellet with lasers falls under the category of inertial confinement fusion, and the other way, which is known as magnetic confinement fusion, uses powerful magnets to trap a burning cloud of atoms, which is called plasma. Both approachments have daunting engineering challenges to overcome. In particular, how do you extract the heat generated during fusion so you can do something useful with it, like drive a turbine to make electricity? Those in the fusion industry don't deny the engineering challenges, but they feel they can be overcome.

Mike Gorday:

A company called Eximer plans to use a waterfall of molten salt flowing around the fusion reaction to absorb the heat. The founders are confident that they can fire the lasers and replace the fuel capsules one every couple of seconds, while keeping that flow going. But how quickly can they make such the system work? Eximer plans to experiment with the lasers for two years before building a target chamber where they can then target the fuel pellets. The final stage would be the working reactor, which they hope would be plugged into the grid in the mid 2030s. So we got something to look forward to in the next decade.

Nathan Mumm:

We had another story that didn't make our top stories, about a young individual that actually made some plasma. Stories about a young individual that actually made some plasma. So I mean this whole experiment right now in the technology world of trying to create fusion power, to try to have plasma, to create more electricity or more power of electricity.

Mike Gorday:

This would be a way to generate an abundance of electricity without all the side effects that we do now, which you know. Obviously, what we don't really talk about these days is how we get our electricity right. We get it through nuclear fission and in some cases we get it through a more traditional means, by burning coal yeah but uh, you know, that's what it, that's what it is, that's what it is, all right, and maybe that kid needs to go to NIF. Well, in California, he better get, he better not.

Nathan Mumm:

What he's going to go to MIT probably.

Mike Gorday:

Well, he's going to get pulled over for speeding.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, he made All right, another Tyreek Hill joke. All right, another Tyreek Hill joke, all right. Story number four we have a follow up story that we talked about a few weeks ago ahead of the mainstream media, on a follow up of breaking news from Nick Espinosa, the white supremacist group of Terragram, and they accused the group of encouraging hate crimes and murders. Federal prosecutors on Monday announced charges against two people for the alleged involvement in this Telegram group, which was used to spread hateful content and stir up a race war. Dallas Humber, 34, of Elk Grove, california, and Matthew Allison, 37, of Boise, idaho, are charged with 15 count of indictment for soliciting hate crimes, soliciting the murder of federal officers and officials, conspiring to provide material support for terrorists. The Department of Justice announced in a press release this week, according to the incident, humber and Allison were leaders of the Terragram Collective, a transnational terrorist group that operated on Telegram.

Nathan Mumm:

So we talked about that pretty exclusively. Nick was all over that story and now it comes on out that arrests have been made regarding the Terragram Collective on Telegram's platform, with two of the main individuals leading this effort here in the United States. There you go. Does that surprise you? No, no, it doesn't surprise me either, but it does make me upset, you know, because we always point fingers at maybe other people are doing it, and then, of course, when you point your finger, my mom, you saw we say that when you point your finger forward, you got three fingers pointing back at you. What are you talking?

Mike Gorday:

about.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, the the pterogram, we didn't know that it was coming from the United States. We thought it could have been actually individuals that were overseas. There were kind of the leader of this group, and now that was. Well, that ends our top technology stories of the week. Moving on, gwenway is up with our gadgets and gear segment, with a product that keeps you connected on and off the grid. What is it? Well, gwen will share this information in our next segment. You're listening to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. See you after the commercial break.

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Nathan Mumm:

Our weekly show covers the top technology subjects without any political agenda. We verify the facts and we do it with a sense of humor, in less than 60 minutes and, of course, with a little whiskey on the side. Today, mark Gregoire, our whiskey connoisseur, is in the studio and now we have a taste test set up of two different whiskeys, so you're going to have to explain what we got going on here. This is more alcohol than normal, but I'm not complaining, it'll be fun.

Marc Gregoire:

So our main one up on your board today is we're drinking Old Forrester 100 Proof. But this is a single barrel selection and almost to the date. A year ago we did the one on the table, which is Old Forrester 100 Proof, which is their standard bottle on the shelf. So today we're focusing on the single bottle and then, when we do Mark's mumbles, we'll talk a little bit more about the differences between the two bottles and see what your reaction there is Now.

Marc Gregoire:

From the back of the bottle it does say, merely 150 years ago, their great-great-grandfather, george Gavin Brown. He was the first to seal his bourbon in a glass bottle, ensuring consistency and exceptional quality. He felt so strongly in his convictions that he signed his name to it. Today I'm proud to add my signature as proof of our commitment to the Old Forrester legacy lives on. That's from Campbell P Brown. Now Old Forrester says it's handpicked from a select barrels. Old Forrester 100 proof is rich, complex bourbon that brings flavors of ripe apple and other sweet fruit, baking spices like clove and nutmeg and toasted oak, while finishing sweet and light with hints of oak and apple that linger a little bit. Now this is from the Brown Foreman, it's an Old Forrester distillery from Kentucky. It's straight bourbon. It's not age-stated but it's said to be at least four years old 100 proof, as we know. And the mash bill is 72% corn, 18% rye and 10% barley, and for the standard shelf offering that is $30. Single barrels usually go for about 50 bucks. Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Did you try the old For?

Mike Gorday:

forester, to compare the two.

Nathan Mumm:

I tried both of them, but did you? Did you notice a difference between the two?

Mike Gorday:

yeah, yeah, I thought this one right here, so the white label is a little sweeter than the black label is that what you're getting?

Nathan Mumm:

I got the black label was a little bit, uh, softer on my palate than the white label.

Marc Gregoire:

I thought was a little bit more of a kick that I got, so there you go all right, we'll see we'll do some more drinking and then we'll talk about it later during the mumbles that sounds.

Nathan Mumm:

That sounds perfect. That's what we like to do. Well, mark, we always enjoy you. Well, thank you bringing in the whiskey. Thank you for completing our first whiskey taste. Now, moving on to the segment. Today we have Gwen Way joining the show. She's an expert in cybersecurity during the day and a game board geek in the evenings, as well as the producer of Tech Time Radio and our Gadgets in Gear gal.

Speaker 1:

Let's get ready to start our Comcast video stream and our next segment.

Nathan Mumm:

What's new in our Gadgets, in Gear. All right, here we go. Gadgets here. Quinn, I'm gonna have to put this in here. Just, we're gonna talk about the sony's all-new ps5 pro. That just got announced late last night and this morning, and so there's a couple facts I want to make sure we get out there. Do you, do you have a playstation, or are you an x gal? What do you play?

Gwen Way:

I have a PlayStation, but I am still playing on a PlayStation 4.

Nathan Mumm:

PlayStation 4,.

Gwen Way:

okay, it's about time to upgrade.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't know if you're going to want to upgrade, though, to the $700 PS5 Pro, though it does come with upgraded graphics that look great. So they've taken the graphics and they do a whole bunch of upscaling. They also now support 8k, as if you have an 8k, who has an 8k television at home? That's gaming, no, not not standard people. I don't know of anybody. I got a 4k one, but I don't know if I go out and buy an 8k television just to game. But if you did, guess what, you're going to want to make sure you get your pre-orders ready, and you're going to want to be up at the crack of dawn on september 26, because that's when pre-orders go on sale, available on sony's website now.

Nathan Mumm:

The ps5 pro is all about making bigger tv games happier and experiences souped up. Gpu, which is the graphic processor, promises to be a fluid 4k and 60 frames per second, and with the upgrade ability, to move all the way into the 8k range. Now sony says it has 40 to 50 games that will get a patch that will be launched in november for existing games to get the better graphics. But here's the kicker it does not come with a ultra blu-ray disc drive. You would have to purchase the one that's available right now for the PS5. You have to purchase an additional unit to have physical discs play on the unit. It is all online, playstation online account download of the games. They're trying, of course, to get rid of physical discs being used, so that that is some breaking news and we wanted to talk about a kind of a little bit gadgets and gearish to do there. Are you going to be buying a playstation 5, mike?

Mike Gorday:

no, I don't. I had the original playstation. That's where I stopped.

Nathan Mumm:

Then did you move over to xbox and after that, yeah, okay, all right. Well, playstation is not a playstation 6. That is probably two to three years rumored away, but this unit probably will sell when Grand Theft Auto comes on out. And then it has the enhanced graphics capability and everybody is going to want to have those high-definition graphics when you're cruising around stealing stuff in the fictional cities that you have in Grand Theft Auto. And so there you go.

Gwen Way:

I mean, that's going to be beautiful to look at, but personally I'm looking forward to the fact that this new release will probably make the regular PS5 a little less expensive.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, there you go. You can go buy yourself a disc version brand new, probably with some upgraded graphics in there too, gwen, and pay half the price of when it hit the shelves. But it's always interesting this, right before the holidays you're going to be seeing these things go on eBay for probably $1,500 to $2,000 to have the rich kids under Christmas tree special, when the executives didn't decide to wake up early in the morning and get on the advanced list. All right, well, let's go. And first off, gwen, can you introduce yourself to any new listeners? Tell us a little bit about yourself and what you do in your standard daily activities.

Gwen Way:

Well, of course, for anybody who's new, I'm Gwen. I have been working in tech for a quarter of a century, which is just the way I'm going to go with it going forward, and my focus right now is in cybersecurity, which is fun and exciting and, at the same time, the least exciting thing ever.

Nathan Mumm:

There you go. It's kind of excited and not exciting. The last time I talked with you you're working on a big proof of concept. Did that proof of concept go good, or did it go bad? Or how'd that proof of concept go?

Nathan Mumm:

It went really really well actually Okay good, good, good good good, all right, no fire eye here. If you need to deal with anybody, reach out to Gwen and she'll actually help you instead of steer you the wrong direction, all right? Well, gwen, let's talk about now this gadget and gear. What do we have for the listeners today?

Gwen Way:

Well, speaking of steering people in the right direction, I found a really cool gadget on Kickstarter called the Flare F-L-A-R-E.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Gwen Way:

The Flare is basically an off-grid locator which is great for concerts and festivals and hiking and all kinds of fun things like that, making sure that people can stay in communication even when they don't have cell signal or Wi-Fi.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, okay, so even when they don't have Wi-Fi? So you're telling me that this device works. So if I'm in the middle of which is so funny the middle of the mountains in the Pacific Northwest, and so far I've lost all cellular connectivity, I would still be able to get a hold of somebody and be able to communicate with them with this device.

Gwen Way:

As long as they are also using a similar device. Basically, it's using shortwave radio waves as opposed to the cellular signal. It also is using GPS, so one of the cool things about it is that not only do you have a compass so you can find where you are and where you need to go, it will actually show you where the other users of these devices are.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, so is there a limit to how many users you can get on this? You can get one or two or four or six or eight. Four is the total.

Gwen Way:

right now they're talking about trying to expand it, but right now four is where they're at.

Nathan Mumm:

That's pretty good. You know, we go to big family events. Having four subgroups go on out there makes sense, so that's what we have. All right, where can we find out where this is located about and tell us how many units have been backed? If it hasn't been backed, where can we find out more information about this unit itself?

Gwen Way:

Of course. So, as always, kickstartercom Well, not always we're going to get into some that are just generally available as we get closer to Christmas. In this case, kickstartercom. Just search Flare F-L-A-R-E. Right now they've got 39 backers. They are fully funded at about $8,900 of $7,500. And you still have three weeks, so you have until October 2nd to decide whether you want to get one or not. My recommendation right now is you can get a two pack for $199, which would give you and one other person the chance to communicate with each other.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, so let's talk about these units. How long are they charged for? How long does it take to charge? Because if I'm going to be out and, let's say, I'm at a geek fest and I can't get ahold of my party and I need to meet up with everybody and tell them where to go, how long is this battery going to last?

Gwen Way:

It actually lasts 22 hours, okay, which gives you a pretty much the entire day. Uh, you, it will take a couple of hours to actually recharge, but again, after 22 hours I I think you're probably going to be in a tent or back home or in a hotel room and again these items.

Nathan Mumm:

You're not going to have them on the whole time like your cell phone. You're probably going to turn them on only when you're going off grid into those locations. Okay, all right, now how does this messaging system work? Explain that to me, because that's the most intriguing aspect of this whole thing for me anyways, because if I want to text somebody and I can't get cell phone coverage, that is the most annoying thing that happens when you get those bars that don't work and you're like I just texted you, where are you at? Where are you at? How does that work?

Gwen Way:

It really, really is. So it's actually a peer-to-peer messaging as opposed to going up through the cellular. You use your Flare device and your Flare app and you're able to actually text back and forth. Okay, it's not.

Nathan Mumm:

So it's not on the device itself. You have to have a cell phone that you'd be connected to that. Is that correct? Exactly that is correct okay, so you got to just make sure you have enough battery charge for your iphone. If you got 22 hours on this device, you're gonna have to bring a spare.

Mike Gorday:

That changes things. Yeah, you got to bring an extra battery pack. My iphone lasts like an hour, does it?

Gwen Way:

it all depends on how much chatting you actually want to do. Um, it's great for short messages like hey, you know we're at the ferris wheel, come meet me. Or hey, I'm over at you know the sea stage.

Gwen Way:

Or I've gone up this mountain and I'm next to the waterfall okay yeah, see, I think it's perfect for that in the festival kind of way yep you go out the whole day instead of having what is called a totem. Uh, you now have this. It's a lot easier to find because often more often than not you don't have cellular service in a festival and at the end of the day, while you're sleeping, that's when you charge the device exactly 100.

Nathan Mumm:

So I think this is actually at concerts and festivals like you go to, like burning man, right. So this would be like the ultimate device at like a burning man type festival not even like burning man, just something you know that's out.

Gwen Way:

But burning man's out in the middle of nowhere, that's right so it's out in the middle of nowhere.

Nathan Mumm:

Anyways, you don't get cellular coverage when you come there, so everybody that's there always wants to meet up and complaining if they can still speak and haven't had too much of Burning man.

Mike Gorday:

There was a time way back when, where we didn't have all these good gadgets and things and nobody cared.

Nathan Mumm:

You just met up at a place. You just said we're going to meet up over here at sundown, or do you remember the?

Gwen Way:

walkie talkies Everybody check your walkie talkies. That's what people do nowadays.

Mike Gorday:

Shortwave radios, well, but this is a little bit better than shortwave radios, because this actually uses shortwave radio. Well, it does. This is a band.

Nathan Mumm:

It uses a shortwave radio band to work with your phone itself. All right, gwen. Where can people find this again? Give us a reminder.

Gwen Way:

Kickstartercom Just search for Flair and it will pop right up. You do have three weeks, but honestly, I'd jump on this as quickly as possible.

Nathan Mumm:

Are you getting one? That's the question I always ask now, are you getting one?

Gwen Way:

Actually we are getting two. My husband's aunt is a huge hiker. She goes up and hikes the mountains of Portlandland at least twice a week. So we're going to get her too, so that she can give one to a friend and make sure that she's always in touch I gotta make sure my loved one is not listening, because she will want to grab one of these you already got one.

Nathan Mumm:

I haven't ordered one yet, so we'll see if this comes in in the christmas surprise. That's, that's right. All right, gwen. Well, it's always a pleasure to have you on the show. It's always great when you have a new gadget. I think next month's gadget. We're going to be in October, right? So we got like a little Halloween events coming on up here, then we have like Thanksgiving and then we got our big Christmas deal to get in there. So I did order 10 of your last gadget. So nobody knows what it was on the last gadget. Go back to go and watch.

Nathan Mumm:

Go watch the episode and, Gwen, we'll tell you all about the gadget that was available. There was a little device that I'm giving away for Christmas. There you go, all right, thank you so much for joining the show. I look forward to seeing you next week. Gwen it, I look forward to seeing you next week.

Gwen Way:

Gwen, it's always a pleasure. Lovely, thank you. Bye.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, that ends our segment gadgets and gear. With Gwen Wayne Now up we have.

Speaker 9:

Mike's mesmerizing moment.

Nathan Mumm:

Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment. What does Mike have to say today? All right, Mike, here's a question why do people not comply with regulations? There's a bunch of stuff going on in the news.

Nathan Mumm:

And yeah, you got, you got people that are getting pulled over, thrown into the grounds Talking about your Tyree. Yeah, my guys, the cops are throwing them around and oh my word. But clearly in this instance, both parties maybe have something to do a little bit to the aggregated of the issue to escalate. But why are people not complying with regulations? The cops could arrested him a certain way and they didn't do that. He could have maybe responded a little bit simpler than he did, but why do we not, as people, comply with regulations?

Mike Gorday:

Well, uh, the short answer is entitlement. We feel like we should the rice. The rules shouldn't apply to us, Right? Is that what it is? Well, yeah, why do you speed? Um, uh, cause I like to go faster than you want to get where you want to go as quick as possible and you think that getting where you want to go is more important than following the speed limit? That's, that's a form of entitlement, okay, All right.

Mike Gorday:

We all do it. Yeah, uh, in some way, shape or form, in every group there is a group of rule breakers, automatically, and there's always going to be a group of rule makers, and they're going to be pitted against each other and the rule makers are going to constantly make more rules so that the rule breakers can break more rules, and until there's a revolution, and then you establish a new group of rule makers and then you have a new group of rule breakers.

Nathan Mumm:

So is this always going to happen? This is just. This is human.

Mike Gorday:

This is the way we are as humans. We just don't believe that everything should apply to us, the way that people say that America is founded on that, that principle Right yeah, the revolution.

Nathan Mumm:

We left England and we said we want want to.

Mike Gorday:

We, we don't want you telling us what to do anymore. F you, we're going to put, we're going to put all this tea in the Harbor and then we're going to kick you out of the country and we're going to make it our own and that's what we did, okay, I guess it's just and then. And then we turned right around and started telling everybody how to live in America.

Nathan Mumm:

That's right, and America is the Native Americans, then we try to tell them what to do, right?

Mike Gorday:

We tell everybody what to do, all right, okay Well, but so does everybody else.

Nathan Mumm:

I mean, we're not unique in that All people just essentially don't comply with regulations, because we all and the particular video you watched.

Mike Gorday:

He was not exactly playing very complacent. Yeah, no, we watched. This was not exactly playing very complacent. Yeah, no, he was, we watched. He was aggravating the situation quite, didn't he use the term? Don't you know who I am?

Nathan Mumm:

I do believe that was happening in the video that we would solve to recal that that is a significant, that is a significant entitlement.

Mike Gorday:

Right there, do you know who I am? Yeah, there you go all right.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, thank you, mike, for the mesmerizing moment. Up next we we have this Week in Technology, so now would be a great time to enjoy a little whiskey on the side, as we're going to be doing so during the break. You're listening to Tech Time Radio. I have now two shots of whiskey to get through. I hope I will be better for the next segment with my words, because this whiskey is strong. Whiskey is strong. It's only going to get worse. All right, see you in a few minutes. Hey, mike, yo, what's up? Hey, so you know what we need people to start liking our social media page.

Mike Gorday:

If you like our show, if you really like us, we could use your support on Patreoncom. Is it Patreon? I think it's Patreon. Okay, patreon, if you really like us, you can like us in.

Nathan Mumm:

Patreoncom I I butcher the english language. You know you butcher the english. Okay, so it's all the time patreoncom, if you really like.

Mike Gorday:

if you really like our show, you can subscribe to patreoncom and help us out all right, and you can visit us on that facebook platform.

Nathan Mumm:

You know the one that zuckerberg owns, the one that we always bag on. Yeah, you can. We're on facebook too. Yeah, like us on facebook. You know what our facebook page is Tech Time Radio At Tech Time Radio. You know what? There's a trend here.

Mike Gorday:

It seems to be that there's a trend and that's Tech Time Radio, or you can even Instagram with us and that's at Tech Time Radio.

Nathan Mumm:

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Mike Gorday:

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Nathan Mumm:

That's it, that's it, that's that simple.

Speaker 1:

And now let's look back at this week in technology.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, we're going to the Wayback Machine for September 7th 2005. The iPod Nano was introduced. Apple introduces the iPod Nano, effectively replacing the iPod Mini. The move surprised many in the industry, as the iPod Mini was extremely popular. However, the use of flash storage instead of a hard drive allowed for a much smaller form factor, increased reliability and a better battery life. These improvements provide extremely popular with consumers, as 1 million units were sold in the first 17 days. The pioneering use of flash storage in a consumer electronic device paved the way for its use and many future Apple product designs, such as the iPhone, ipad and the flash storage based MacBooks. Yeah, Now.

Mike Gorday:

Now, if I want to use any of that stuff, I have to have a subscription. Well, yeah, well, that's true.

Nathan Mumm:

Now the Apple music. Let's talk about the iPod. Modded iPods are the hottest thing in the market right now. You can go to Etsy, ebay and find these things. The iPod mini modded silver iPod can now come with orange, blacklit taptic sensors and you can flash with different mods to have your screens look differently. The iPod Classic has now extended battery life. You can have a modded version that added Bluetooth, extended battery life and enjoy up to 80 hours of continuous playback. You can even use both wired and Bluetooth headphone speakers. So now all the rage is for the youngins to have these new modded iPods. Now we should go to our fashionista and see if she has.

Gwen Way:

I am not a fashionista. Well, do you have one of?

Nathan Mumm:

these new iPod modded devices? No, no, okay, would you want one for Christmas?

Mike Gorday:

Yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

Along with a turntable.

Mike Gorday:

I don't know what the turntable is An 8-track. No, it's not 8-track.

Gwen Way:

Yeah, 8-track, no, it's cassette players. Oh, but 8-track was the better one.

Nathan Mumm:

Walkmans are big too.

Mike Gorday:

Everything retro is Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, there you go. Heard it from the fashionista herself. That was this Week in Technology. Have you ever wanted to watch some Tech Time? History Just gave you a one-finger salute, uh-oh. With over 200 weekly broadcasts spanning five-plus years of video, podcasts and blog information, you can visit us at techtimeradiocom to watch our older shows. We're going to take a commercial break. When we return we have the Mark Whiskey Mobile Review and who knows what day, is connecting people with coffee.

Speaker 2:

Story Coffee is a small batch specialty coffee company that uses technology to connect people to each product resource, which allows farmers to unlock their economic freedom. Try our Medium Roast Founder Series coffee, which is an exotic bourbon variety that is smooth, fresh and elegant. At storycoffeecom, that's S-T-O-r-i coffeecom. Today, you can get your first bag free when you subscribe at story coffeecom with code tech time, that's s-t-o-r-i coffeecom the segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's Whiskey Mumble.

Marc Gregoire:

So excited to be here September 10th, alright.

Nathan Mumm:

What is September 10th For a?

Marc Gregoire:

national day. Today is a national day. Okay, what is it? It is national TV dinner day.

Speaker 4:

I like to sit down dinner and if you, when you can't cook it, swanson and chili.

Speaker 9:

Oh, yes, oh, I can remember, oh, I remember this.

Marc Gregoire:

Swanson is.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, I remember Swanson.

Mike Gorday:

What's the other one, hungry man, hungry man.

Marc Gregoire:

Hungry man dinner. Yes, so this day is to let yourself enjoy a complete meal without having to cook.

Nathan Mumm:

That's better than those mashed potatoes and the corn or peas, whatever vegetables you got.

Mike Gorday:

That's a great segment, okay, I don't know we had to put it in the oven.

Marc Gregoire:

First TV dinner was the Thanksgiving meal of turkey peas, cornbread dressing and sweet potatoes. All right, there you go. Yeah, it was the company Swanson Sons that developed TV dinners in 1953.

Nathan Mumm:

Now the question for everybody is is do you prefer the old tv dinner or the home-cooked meal? You know there's nothing better than having that toast. Are you asking me as a?

Mike Gorday:

single person or are you asking me as, uh, as a human being? As a human being oh no, see, it was a human being I have to go with the home-cooked meal, but as a single person, absolutely, the tv dinner.

Marc Gregoire:

Tv dinner, man, my favorite tv dinner is what? Salisbury steak? Oh okay, but I just asked my wife what we're having tonight and she said we're having Salisbury steak and she's home cooking it tonight. So I think I prefer that over the.

Nathan Mumm:

TV dinner. You better say that, oh yeah.

Marc Gregoire:

You're obligated, so now as we discuss TV dinners versus cooked dinners, Today we have a small competition between the standard shelf offering versus a single barrel whiskey of the same juice. Okay, To refresh everyone, a standard shelf bottle of a major brand is a blend of many, many, many different barrels of the exact same bourbon and mash bill, which usually smooths out the taste and maintains consistency of the flavor. A single barrel is just that the whiskey from only one barrel, with a similar profile to the standard offering, but somehow unique. However, this usually brings with it the flavors that come from that special or that single barrel uniqueness. Single barrels are priced a bit more due to this and have a unique profile within the realm of the standard flavor profile. The question is is it worth the upcharge? Now I say that depends, of course, on various factors. It usually goes back to the individual preference the person who picked out the single barrel, their preference and palate, and then you, the one drinking it, your preference and palate, All right, that's interesting.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, I do know that, for those that are listening to the radio, we are going to be heading out here in just a second to go to a live coverage of the Tacoma Rainier. So you're going to be leaving us for that live show, but do feel free to watch the conclusion of our show at tech time radiocom. So for all those moving on over there, best of luck to the tacoma rainiers. For everybody else, we're going to, of course, continue on with our show. Our live stream on youtube, twitchtv and facebook is all available to go for people to have there. All right, well, let's, let's talk a little bit here. More about the whiskey. We're tasting the two that we have here, mark, we are. So the one is the $30 bottle.

Marc Gregoire:

The black label is a single barrel. I bought that one, the cheaper one, right? No, no, the black label is the label, not the cap.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, yes, the black label is yours. They're both mine. Oh, they're both yours. Did you give me the other one?

Marc Gregoire:

They're both here. Did you give me the other one? Yes, oh, okay.

Nathan Mumm:

That was one that you stole from me from one of the shows from last year, so the black label is a pick from the Ballard Cut, of course, in Ballard Washington. All right.

Marc Gregoire:

And then the other one is the white label is standard off the shelf of the same Old Forrester, 100 proof. Okay, now I find them a little bit different. They're both delicious, so there's not a huge difference. Sometimes, on single barrels, you'll find a huge difference, sometimes much, much worse, sometimes much, much better. These are pretty close. I do find the mouthfeel and the viscosity of the Ballard Cut single barrel is more rich and fulfilling. It also seems to have more of a breadth of flavors, while the White Label, in my my point, is a little sweeter, a little bit more single note okay, but very, very close and both delicious. All right, mark, thanks for that mumble. What about you guys? Are we gonna save that for the end?

Nathan Mumm:

I'm gonna save that all right. I'm gonna save that for all right. I already know what I'm gonna give it if I stole the bottle from you. You should probably know that I'm gonna probably you. You stole that bottle, not this bottle. Yeah, I know, I may steal that one too, okay, well, you know what? Now, nothing pairs well or as well as whiskey and technology, just like security and breaches. No, you did that last week.

Mike Gorday:

I know you can't be repeating this. Security and breaches. Okay, well, like baseball in the Tacoma Rainiers, I saw that last week. I know you can't be repeating this. Come on Security and breaches.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, well, like baseball in the Tacoma Rainiers. No, there we go. That's no, no.

Mike Gorday:

Jelly and donuts. I like jelly and donuts. Copy and paste.

Marc Gregoire:

I thought you were going to go like elections and presidential debates.

Gwen Way:

I want to hear the technology fail. Are we going to hear our technology fail? We?

Mike Gorday:

need to do some more matches, because he's he's got, he's got to learn better. Ok, here we go.

Nathan Mumm:

We are out of time. Congratulations, you're a failure.

Speaker 4:

Oh, I failed.

Marc Gregoire:

Did I yes, did I yes, did I yes. All right.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, this week's failure comes to us from Swiss. The Swiss is the International Airlines SWISS. The airline has been forced to rebalance plane because first class seats are too heavy. The desire to fly in style weighs heavily on most of us, but for some first class flyers it weighs even heavier. Swiss International Airlines is having to make alterations to some of the aircraft because of their new first class seats, due to be installed as a much needed revamp, are provided to be a lot heavier than expected.

Nathan Mumm:

The new jumbo seats on the Airbus A330S, which includes six foot walls, a locking door for each suite, are seated at the front of the plane, making the aircraft nose too heavy. Swiss will have to fit a massive balancing plate at the back of the plane to recenter the balance of the aircraft. The new seat is called the Swiss Sense. We're announcing 2023 for the debut of the winter 2025-2026 airline season. The airline has promised a full made-in-Switzerland experience with up to 37 square foot suites in first class, with sliding doors and walls shielding passengers from their fellow mortals. In a statement, swiss said that they intend to have this industry trend on all of their business class seats get heavier to provide more privacy. Now it's interesting because, as they continue to upgrade the first class, they continue to downgrade the standard class, which is causing even more difficulty because they are lighter seats in the back now than what were previously used. All right, we're going to head out to our last.

Mike Gorday:

What's the fail here? Because you really went off on this last night before you read the actual.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, so the fail is is I've been on an aircraft once before and they said that we had to rearrange seats because of a balancing issue.

Mike Gorday:

And it was another Airbus and I was coming back from Europe europe, uh, amsterdam as a matter of fact, and you were, you were all upset because they had to rebalance the plane.

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, yeah, so so what do you buy? A plane, shouldn't you know? Shouldn't you understand about balancing issues clearly here? Swiss is now having to add in something, because they didn't plan for the additional weight that was available there yeah, they're really.

Gwen Way:

They're really investing in the classism right here I don't know why you consider it that I've told you that's not how it works you did tell us to me last night that you had a friend that has to balance this under the impression that there is a bunch of shoulds that should be going on. Yeah that's just too much we all know that.

Nathan Mumm:

Why do you have to balance? You should engineer a plane to be balance neutral, so that when you put stuff in there you don't have to balance this.

Mike Gorday:

That's what's going on here. With this thing, they added all this junk to the nose section of the plane. That's a balancing plane. It's a big, huge.

Nathan Mumm:

it's a big. I looked at it a sphere thing that goes up and down, depending on like the middle of the thing, all the way down, and it's like 25 feet. It's like a sheet metal 25 feet sphere thing that they move back and I'm not sure how, why, you're having such an issue with this. I just I, I am I am, it's obvious.

Mike Gorday:

It's obvious that design a plane that can handle this, the Swiss are really into classism and they're going to make the the front of the plane a lot heavier, so they have to make All right Now now you got me on a rant.

Speaker 2:

That's right. That's what I'm here for, oh boy.

Speaker 1:

This is your nugget of the week. All right, here's my last thing.

Nathan Mumm:

I'm going to be in trouble. Out of office replies say the blunt truth is a new trend for people going on vacation. Now this is what happened. I recently emailed an old friend. We haven't talked for a while. I look forward to catching up. And I got his message. It said I'm out of the office having more fun than communicating with you. I will likely forget to email you back. What the heck is that? Now that?

Nathan Mumm:

was that personal email yes, yes, no, no, no, no. This is his work email, work email. So these out of office messages, forget the polite promises to respond after the vacation over. This is what people are doing. Barry Ritz, the 62-year-old chairman and chief investment officer for New York wealth management firm, said that he put his out of office to say he was peacefully contemplating the world from a remote lake in Maine. His note did not end there. It says during this time, I will be out of the office, not checking emails, avoiding text, ignoring Slack, letting calls go to voicemail, off the grid and generally unreachable. As such, my autoresponder is as well autoresponding.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, why do you find that to be a problematic?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, here's another.

Gwen Way:

He finds it unprofessional.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah Well, the first one is more unprofessional. The second one is more unprofessional. Well, still that one was. The second one is just saying, hey, I'm not going to be a startup in Seattle. Are you jealous, Nathan?

Speaker 4:

Is that what it comes down to 33-year-old of a startup in Seattle.

Nathan Mumm:

Him and his wife are expecting their first baby any day now. His out-of-office message says that he won't respond to emails during to eight week paternity leave. There's nothing so important that it needs to take precedence over my new little one. You're right.

Mike Gorday:

Ok, you find that to be a problem.

Nathan Mumm:

No, no no, but why the heck are you going to put that on your out of office? He says he will not be checking a pile of emails and he'll be very delayed upon return.

Mike Gorday:

I feel like I should go and set mine too.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't want to talk to you ever. Well, if this is another out of office, if this is urgent, take a deep breath, because very few things really are that. You shouldn't be putting these on your out-of-office emails. You're supposed to be professional. I read this book called be our guest from the disney institute and the one thing it says you should always be very professional in your email, in your correspondence outside to anybody else that would do business.

Mike Gorday:

You know, in essence, I agree. I agree that you probably shouldn't be condescending about your out-of-office texts or, you know, telling people while telling somebody that, hey, I'm going to be gone and won't be able to do anything, that's setting some expectations.

Speaker 2:

Sure, I'm okay with that.

Mike Gorday:

But telling people I don't care about your email. That's a little different.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't like this new trend. Two thumbs down for this new trend.

Mike Gorday:

Well, you know, luckily for us, we don't have that much more time to worry about it.

Nathan Mumm:

That's right, let's go to our whiskey.

Marc Gregoire:

Let's get back to whiskey. Old Forrester 100 proof. You guys are tasting the single barrel and you are comparing it to the standard shelf offering.

Nathan Mumm:

Let me just tell you, I can tell you, for the standard shelf offering thumbs up, for the Forrester, thumbs up, both are thumbs up.

Marc Gregoire:

They're both great. The standard shelf is 30. The other one's 50. Which one are you going? I'm going with both, thumbs up.

Mike Gorday:

I'll have to go with both too. Both too, I like the flavor profile. The black label is a lot different than the white label, but they're both good.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Well, everybody, thank you for joining the show. We can't wait to be part of your show next week. Remember I'm your host, Nathan Mumm, have a great binary week.

Speaker 1:

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