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170: Is Your Car the Worst Invasion of Your Privacy? A New Report has Everyone Scared, We Explore Car Data Privacy, Comet Nishimura, Facebook Scams, and Kickstarter Innovations with Gwen Way | Air Date: 9/10/ - 9/16/23
What if your car knew more about you than you’d like it to? And what if this information was ending up in the hands of strangers? Join us as we dive into the contentious issue of data collection by car manufacturers with our guest co-host Marc Gregoire, and our dear friend Gwen Way shares her insights on the latest gadgets and gear. We also weigh in on how hackers might be your unexpected heroes and why older cars are gaining popularity among the privacy-conscious.
Fancy a journey from the highways to the cosmos? We shift gears and take you to the celestial world of comets; in particular, the newly discovered comet Nishimura. We will guide you on how to view this heavenly body, which has made its home near the Leo constellation. But that’s not it! We also tackle the growing menace of Facebook Messenger phishing scams that have business accounts in their crosshairs.
To round off, we venture into the intriguing universe of Kickstarter with Gwen Way, who introduces us to the ‘Ozlo Sleepbuds’ – a godsend for those seeking sweet slumber on Gadgets and Gear.
We also bring you the unique character of 'Wild Turkey, 12 year old Distillers Reserve' whiskey, a tantalizing blend of vanilla, rich caramel, and hints of spice. As we conclude, we ponder the place of technology in our lives and express our thanks to you, our faithful listeners. Be sure to join us next week for another enthralling exploration of today's tech scene and tomorrow's scientific landscape. Don’t miss it!
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This week on TechTime with Nathan Mumm®, Is Your Car the Worst Invasion of Your Privacy? A New Report has everyone scared and buying 10-year-old cars. Next, Did you get a message on Facebook Messenger for your business? Please don't click on it. We will explain why. Plus, The Technology Facebook and Google didn't dare release, and you can see a newly discovered comet before it vanishes for 400 years.
Join us on TechTime Radio with Nathan Mumm, the show that makes you go "Hummmm" Technology news of the week for September 10th - 16th, 2023
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- Is Your Car the Worst Invasion of Your Privacy? A New Report has everyone scared and now buying 10-year-old cars. - https://tinyurl.com/5dpmbfup
- How to see a newly discovered green comet this week, before it vanishes for 400 years. - https://tinyurl.com/4hetxv8m
- Facebook Messenger phishing wave that targets 100K business accounts per week. - https://tinyurl.com/3wcctuuk
- The Technology Facebook and Google Didn’t Dare Release. - https://tinyurl.com/27rydh7w
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Wild Turkey 101 12-Years | 101 Proof | $175.99
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Ozlo Sleepbuds®: The next-gen, streaming, sensing Sleepbuds®
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September 10, 1990 - Archie Search Engine, The first Internet Search Engine
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Marc Gregoire's review of this week's whiskey
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This week’s “Technology Fail” comes to us from the MGM Resort in Las Vegas as MGM Resorts shuts down as they are under a cyberattack
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Nathan talks about Apple's "Wonderlust" event, which was broadcasted today.
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Wild Turkey 101 12-Years | 101 Proof | $175.99
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Nathan Mumm:I am your host, nathan Mum. We've got Mr Mike Gorday who is out for today's show, so we have Mr Gregoire filling in for us. We're excited to have everybody. We welcome our radio audience of, of course, 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news Each week. Our show covers the weekly top technology subjects without a political agenda. We verify the facts and we do it with a sense of humor, in less than 60 minutes and, of course, with a little whiskey on the side. We are live streaming during our show on five of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, twitchtv X, facebook and LinkedIn. We encourage you to visit us online at techtimeradiocom and become a Patreon supporter at patreoncom.
Nathan Mumm:Forward slash techtimeradio. I'm Nathan Mum, your host, a technologist with 30 years of technology expertise working for Fortune 500 companies across the country. Our whiskey connoisseur, mark Gregoire, is filling in today. He is a senior executive with a 30-year record of establishing and implementing and refining cutting edge solutions to address business needs and optimize opportunities in the print business. He's a skilled whiskey drinker and is our go-to pick of the day experts. We are friends from different backgrounds, but bring the best technology show possible every week for our family, friends and fans to enjoy Mark. Welcome to the show.
Marc Gregoire:Thank you, I'm excited to be here. Sorry, mike couldn't make it, but after the whiskey you brought him last week, I think he decided not to show up.
Nathan Mumm:Oh, that was out of what it was. Go back to episode 169, and if you've ever wanted to have whiskey that tasted like a barbecue grill on fire in Greece, then you can listen to our reviews of that whiskey. That was some of the worst stuff we've had all year. All right, welcome everyone. Now let's start today's show. All right, today, on Tech Time with Nathan Mum, we're going to be talking about tons of stories that we have on the list. We are going to be talking about invasions into cars that just came on out. Missoula has a brand new nonprofit report regarding cars. We have Mark in here. That's going to be talking not only about one story, but two stories today that we're going to be talking about. So that should be exciting. Are you excited to do? We've got four stories on our main topic.
Marc Gregoire:Oh, I know A lot to talk about. We're going to have lots to talk about.
Nathan Mumm:We have Gwen Wade joining us on our gadgets and gear, so she's going to be talking about a new gadget that I think you guys are going to be very interested in learning about. Especially if you like to listen to something in the evening, if you go to bed and you kind of have like this ability to listen to music, this tool may be something that you're going to want to have taken care of. And then we're going to be talking about some of the new Apple releases. They had on our Nathan nugget. They had a release today of their big Wonder Lust show that they did. They put it on out there. That was their tagline, and they had millions of people tuning into this, telling about new products that they're going to sell. So I just can't believe it. It's like the JCPenney's catalog on steroids and we just are going to sit there and listen.
Marc Gregoire:No, no, the Sears catalog or the Sears catalog you did the Sears catalog.
Nathan Mumm:You didn't do the JCPenney's catalog.
Marc Gregoire:Sears was the big one for many, many years.
Nathan Mumm:My parents were a little cheaper, so I got the JCPenney's. It was like they only had like two or three pages for toys, whereas the Sears had like a lot of those pages. And there you go, all right. Well, in addition, of course, we have our technology fail of the week, which is going to be very interesting, and then our Nathan nugget we were just talking about. As always, though, we have our pick of the day whiskey tasting. You're in the commercials to see if our selected whiskey pick gets zero, one or two thumbs up at the end of the show. So sit back, raise the glass and welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mum. Now it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology. Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan Mumm:All right Story. Number one is your car, the worst invasion of your privacy. A new report has everyone scared and people are now buying 10 year old cars. The used car market. After this report came on it came on out late last week the used car market has already increased 15 percent. Now they don't know if it's necessarily because of this article, but when we go through this it may be because of this article. Let's go now to ABC News out of New York on this breaking story.
Speaker 5:A privacy nightmare. That's what a nonprofit group is saying about new cars and the data they're collecting on drivers.
Speaker 6:They know your driving habits, they know how fast you drive, they know how quickly you stop and how quickly you start, and the list goes on and on.
Speaker 5:Experts say the data could be used by insurance companies to determine premiums. It's information not hard to get. According to a new study released by the Mozilla Foundation, it found that cars scored the worst for privacy among a dozen apps and electronic devices studied. 19 of the 25 popular car brands say they can sell drivers' personal data and half acknowledge they'll share your information with the government or law enforcement if asked. Researchers say those fancy gadgets in newer cars like cameras, microphones and apps could all be collecting data on you, and the study found 84 percent of car companies share that information with other businesses. According to Mozilla, nissan's policy says it can collect sexual activity, health diagnosis data and genetic information for targeted marketing purposes. Nissan responding when we do collect or share personal data, we comply with all applicable laws and provide the utmost transparency.
Marc Gregoire:We're astounded when we saw that they could collect information on things like sexual activity and sex life, but could get no answers on how they actually might be doing that.
Speaker 5:So how can you protect yourself? Some car companies give you the option to opt out of data collection, but warn that may impact functionality. Experts say, with no federal laws in place to protect consumers, you need to do your homework.
Speaker 6:Consumers overall very little control at this point of what's being collected and therefore what's being sold.
Nathan Mumm:All right, wow, yeah, this is. I spent a lot of time doing the research on this. This is scary. You got 25 car brands so it was a little bit longer of a news article that we ran than I was going through, but there's so much to cover here, so 25 brands. The report is called Privacy, not Included Reports. You can just Google that anywhere on the internet Privacy, not Included. The car brands researched are terrible at privacy security settings.
Nathan Mumm:This opening sentence of the report says forget using any new car to have confirmed private conversations with anyone. You can just put all the data and information that you would not expect to have collected regarding your personal vehicle. So that's the very first line of their subjects that they start their report with. Let's talk about too much information. So All of them. Essentially, when you purchase a car, you now sign a user agreement and this user agreement allows them when you, when you go to purchase a car before you had to sign all the paperwork. You cannot purchase a car if you do not sign the user agreement. So if you're gonna, let's say you want to buy a new Tesla, you want to buy a New Chevy, you want to buy a new Ford I mean these are. This is Honda, this is the major Car corporations. It's not some podunks unique person, but these are all the major car manufacturers. The very first thing to do is you have to sign a user agreement before you purchase this.
Marc Gregoire:I'm almost speechless on this one, nathan. This is pretty impactful. So, especially the BS that they said in the news article how they comply to all the legal requirements. Yes, because they create this legal ease and they make you sign this probably 20 page document when you don't even have chance to read it to buy the car. They just scroll to then say sign here, correct, this is how you're gonna get your car. Or this is how you're gonna get your GPS signal, not realizing that you're waving away.
Nathan Mumm:So it's very interesting. Serious XM comes in a lot of these vehicles. Google Maps comes in a lot of these vehicles. Now if you ever remember the on-star you remember?
Speaker 5:the on-star navigation.
Nathan Mumm:So let's say you have an on-star in one of the new vehicles and you choose not to subscribe to the service. Well, if you have on-star in your vehicle, they can listen to anything that you do at any time that you're using the vehicle, because it's in that system itself. So they can decide. Somebody behind the on-star Backing can decide for entertainment purposes that they can just turn on and they could listen to any conversations Any of their systems are hooked up to. So you sign first of all this. No one is buying a car yet asking show me the privacy statements, right? I mean, there's a show me the car facts for use car there. Show me this. But no one really is paying any attention to that. And Tell us report comes on out 84% of these essentially sell your data. So this is kind of like the side hustle of each of these type of deals. Not only are you buying a vehicle, but it's not.
Marc Gregoire:If it's, when, then is what you're telling me?
Nathan Mumm:correct. 85 already share and sell your data. They've already complete 84% of all the people are all the vehicles that they evaluated in this 25 Collection of manufacturers that they did their event about. You got to go and read the document. The document's huge and when you read the document, it gets tons of information.
Marc Gregoire:But you explain the point where they said that if you don't sign this document or if you say you don't want your data sold, that things may not operate correctly. How are them in the back end sign your data going to stop functionality in your car?
Nathan Mumm:There's only one company that allows you to opt out, and that you'd be surprised at who that is. It's Tesla, okay, no, but when? Tesla? So everybody else you. So if I want to buy a new Chevy and it has these features, I don't have a chance to opt out. I can't choose not to sign it. If I want to buy the vehicle, I'm signing it. Tesla is the only one that opts out. But with their opt out, their warning says here's exactly what it says. Let me I have it right here Tesla's information that they have here. It says this is the option to remove data. If you no longer wish to us to collect vehicle data or under data from your Tesla vehicle, please contact us to deactivate connectivity. Please note certain advanced features, such as over-the-air updates, remote services and interactive with the mobile application, and in car features such as location search, internet radio, those commands and web browsing Functionalities that rely on this connectivity will no longer work.
Marc Gregoire:So so they're saying it's all or nothing is what it sounds like. That's what.
Nathan Mumm:Tesla's saying but they're the only company that allows you to even opt out. Every other company says that you need to give them the information that's available to them. Now the consent is very interesting because we actually look at the consent of what they're given. They're getting information like fuel efficiency. They're getting information of what you do, what you eat, when you stop. It can track you your GPS location built into the vehicle itself, registered to the owner. They can create a map of where you go so that they can then sell that to targeted audiences to get Information that you have now.
Marc Gregoire:Toyota. So why are car so they're making so much money, probably on this Correct are so expensive?
Nathan Mumm:now. So most of these policies are two to three pages, yeah. But now let's say you wanted to buy a Toyota, You're gonna get 12 pages. You get 12 pages of legal ease on what they can deal with the information and they don't even meet the minimum security standards with encryption at rest for your car data. So Toyota has this big 12 page type of deal. The other ones there they're unknown on how much of the encryption of your data is at rest. So at rest meaning when I turn my car off it's no longer going and the hard drive is built into the vehicle itself. Does that mean the information on that hard drive Is it encrypted so that if someone came and stole it or got the information out of it they wouldn't be able to read it? A lot of the manufacturers have multiple hard drive flash drive setups that are available in there and they absolutely do not include that they have their data Encrypted at rest. So if I could put another flash drive into it?
Marc Gregoire:I can steal your stuff. So not only are they not Sorry, there's they're knowing what I'm eating that secret hamburger. Yeah they know whether, when you and I go in the car to drive somewhere, if we're smooching or not. Yeah. We can't stop them from selling our data because we can't buy the car. Then, on top of all that, they don't even protect the data in any way, shape or fashion. That is correct, that is correct, so it looks like, and there's no standard.
Nathan Mumm:There's no safety standards in the automobile industry because they haven't regulated for any of these standards at this time. So now you have all these companies that just came out on this report and Was Zula, a great report. Now they're all gonna go and fight legislation to probably Not get it, so that they have to pay penalties or that they have to have that data. So now this whole industry. So you can't buy a car.
Marc Gregoire:How is this not breaking many Privacy laws that we currently have in the West?
Nathan Mumm:well, because you opted in when you purchased the vehicle, to sign all your rights away With all your privacy while you use this vehicle itself.
Marc Gregoire:Read here type of legal Yep and right here, sign here. Well, you don't want to, so so. I'm gonna go well.
Nathan Mumm:I want to go to a car dealership and I want to. There's one, there's a question.
Marc Gregoire:There's a four links. You want to go?
Nathan Mumm:I'm gonna go? I yes, because I've read tons of this information. I want to go down to our local for dealership and I want to get really close to buying a vehicle and say, okay, I'm not signing the privacy. See what the salesperson does. Is he gonna go back there and actually call headquarters and say, hey, this guy isn't signed in the privacy? Is he gonna say, oh well, don't worry about it, we'll remove it? What is he gonna actually do if I'm trying to buy that vehicle?
Marc Gregoire:My guess is they can't remove it. I don't think they can he's? Gonna he's. They're either gonna be upfront with you and honest. Yeah or they're gonna be that sleazy salespeople that we make fun of and they're gonna lie, cheat and steal somehow to make you sign.
Nathan Mumm:Yep to have it taken care of, all right. Well, there you go, let's move on.
Marc Gregoire:So so just real quick before we move on, cuz I know we have short on time. But this I wonder if the two backlashes besides you make actually three backlashes. One is Possibly people can get so upset they're gonna try and make laws to regulate petitions. So the biggest thing something happens because privacy is getting out of control here. Yep. Number two you're gonna have people like us that are just gonna go back and go for our old cars.
Nathan Mumm:Yep, you know, yeah, a 10 year old vehicle. You know the ones that had soul in them.
Marc Gregoire:Yeah, and then number three is you're gonna have the hackers possibly coming in to help us. How do you, how can you hack the system to get your features but not send the data?
Nathan Mumm:so oh, since this report has been out. Yeah, we could talk lots about it on the dark web, but I've done some searches and let me just tell you, compared to a lot of other Breaches that are very tough to get into, the over-the-air Activations and some of these tools that they use is so primitive and so outdated in the car manufacturing area that Hackers are saying that this is like an easy pickings of information. But they're gonna have to target Specific people so they can actually get the information they need.
Marc Gregoire:Otherwise, just hackers may actually help. Just like and some of the, when Technology was first being introduced, you had people that were Making chips to make the car go faster. So you have the black market chips to actually put your motor.
Nathan Mumm:Yeah, yeah so or if you tie, if you let's listen to our episode of five weeks ago, you can talk about the Tesla hack and then then you can hack. Oh my god, you're up.
Marc Gregoire:Oh, yes, so you want to know how to see a newly discovered green comet this week before it vanishes? Well, tell me about it. All right, well, the meet the new comet Nishimura. It's a newly discovered green comet zipping by Earth, visible for the first time in more than 430 years. So last time it was seen was before Galileo even invented the telescope.
Nathan Mumm:Wow.
Marc Gregoire:So nobody nobody probably even seen saw it, because you need some kind of telescope or lens in order usually to see this particular Comet. Okay, so this is the first time prior that any human will be seen the comet. Now, the comet was discovered by an amateur Japanese astronomer and he first spotted it by taking a long exposure shot using digital cannons, digital camera and a telephoto lens. And this is amazing that he spotted it with all the automated telescopes and all the people studying the sky. That an amateur actually found this comet in this day and age is astounding. Now, do you even know what a comet is, besides a flying thing in the sky?
Nathan Mumm:Okay, a comet. It's like Haley's comet. That was back when I was growing up. We spent a lot of time looking at that.
Marc Gregoire:So you know another comet. But what is? What are comets? Is it like a?
Nathan Mumm:bunch of particles that are all trailing together, type of deal. Yeah, okay, I did okay in my science class. It's a little bit like Ikea.
Marc Gregoire:Okay, so when you put something together at Ikea, so in the beginning of time there was some leftover debris, just like Ikea, when you build something, you have leftover stuff and that stuff just floats around space all the time in a frozen chunk. When it comes by a sun, it melts and that's the trail that it leaves behind it. Once this it melts, the debris and the dust and the goo and the junk kind of trails that comet. Okay.
Marc Gregoire:So right now it's only visible in the northern hemisphere, so that's probably good for most of our listeners, except for the couple of you that are in the southern.
Nathan Mumm:In the Boston area. Yeah, no, the southern hemisphere, okay, southern hemisphere. So we're all bosses in the northern hemisphere. Okay, that's right, we're in the north, that's right.
Marc Gregoire:Yeah, so you just get up early in the morning. Look on the eastern horizon very low. You probably will need a telescope to see it. Best time to see it was actually this morning, but tomorrow won't be too bad either. Look towards the my favorite constellation, which is Leo, and you should get a decent view of that. Now you won't see the bright green because this far and probably the telescopes that amateurs have it'll just be this blur of white, all right, you only see the green and the high resolution photos that they're distributing.
Nathan Mumm:Those are pretty cool to watch. And it was founded by a young individual, isn't that correct?
Marc Gregoire:Yep, japanese, japanese individual, japanese amateur that's discovered with his camera and telephoto lens.
Nathan Mumm:That's fantastic. All right, we're moving on to story number three here. All right, facebook is trying to get the word out, so you do not fail for the Facebook Messenger phishing targets that are hitting over a hundred thousand businesses accounts per week. All right, we're going to go to Emily on our CNBC report regarding this concern for small businesses.
Speaker 7:Talk to us about these apps, what happened and how people can protect themselves. Thanks so much for having me, emily, and appreciate the opportunity to talk about this report. Today we released some research into 400 malicious mobile applications. They were designed to steal Facebook login information. We also know that these scammers constantly adapt to detection by app stores, by researchers. We felt it was important for people to have tips that they can use both to keep themselves safer on our platform and also to stay safe across the internet, so that they know what to look for if someone's trying to target them with an application like this.
Nathan Mumm:All right, so this is kind of interesting.
Marc Gregoire:Explain that a little bit more.
Nathan Mumm:So Facebook came out today saying that they are actually on a campaign to educate individuals, to make sure that, essentially, what they are looking to do is no longer click on Facebook Messenger solicitation. So Facebook Messenger is again. It's like the chat feature within Facebook. Businesses are getting tons of these alerts that are saying you have a copyrighted image that you decided to post. You have something that is illegal that you've posted. We're going to take your account down. You need to contact us because we have concerns regarding the copyrighted material that you put as your business Right Comes across Facebook Messenger as looking like a legitimate Facebook information. They have links there that actually go back to the Facebook terms and condition policies, so if you click on it, it's the right link to go to the information.
Marc Gregoire:All the links, except for the link to bring you to where you need to talk to somebody.
Nathan Mumm:Yeah, it says yes, it says we would like you to issue a complaint into an arbitration council. We want you to log in with your Facebook username and your login password. And when you log in with your Facebook username and your login password, you're giving it to these individuals and then what they're doing is they're immediately going into your accounts and they're disabling items which are essentially sent in your accounts, not available for you to get back into it. So it's a delayed process because it's an arbitration. Now they respond to you within two to three hours saying we're taking a look at your information coming through the Facebook Messenger app again. So very legitimate looking, very legitimate links. But the key to this whole thing and Facebook is trying to get out there- is.
Nathan Mumm:Facebook is the slowest customer service company in the world. So, first off, they're not proactive in anything they do, so that takes them anywhere between two to three weeks to respond to a standard service request. They're absolutely not on top of things, unlike other companies where they're instantly taking care of it. So they're not going to be the one to send you an information.
Marc Gregoire:Right, I understand, even if you do get taken down on Facebook or banned or put on temporary suspension, they just do it. They don't even really notify them.
Nathan Mumm:Correct. They're not going to get into an arbitration area where you're going to make the decision of that they're going to actually just do it immediately and then have that issue be resolved at a later time, and then what you do is you have to contact them and they just put you off, saying it's not going to work.
Marc Gregoire:So Facebook is actually going out trying to educate people.
Nathan Mumm:They are, they are.
Marc Gregoire:They're actually trying to do a good thing here. Well they're trying to say where's the other side of the Well, it's interesting.
Nathan Mumm:This is a compromise that's going on out Essentially downloads a ZIP document into your browser and it actually creates a document called documentzip. It sends the stolen information to the attackers via Telegram or Discord bot on the API. So essentially, what's happening is you get this attachment after you sign in and you give your password. They then respond to you within two hours. They give you this zip file that you need to do to open up to fill a document, and you're kind of thinking that it's legit, because a lot of the time that it took wasn't instantaneously. It's a little bit delayed. What happens is, once you actually download the documentzip, it actually goes through all of your internet browser, all of your cookies, and what it does is it copies all your passwords that you stave on your internet and sends it out to the individuals themselves.
Nathan Mumm:So essentially, what happens is you need to make sure you're not using any of your browser's passwords, saving any of those browsers, because it's taking those documents, sending it out to a third-party Discord server, getting that information and allowing companies to essentially get compromised. So this worked on an individual for a major major corporation, a lending company across the United States, that his personal computer was compromised and he actually clicked on these links and what happened is his business lost key information. So very legitimate out there, very looking like it's coming from Facebook, but Facebook is warning you do not respond to any of that information.
Marc Gregoire:This seems a little bit. I mean, you do or we do a letter segment every so often. I know when we first started that about two years ago it was a lot of fun and funny, but lately they seem to be getting fairly serious and very much, much harder to detect.
Nathan Mumm:They are, and they're making more and more logic with some of the AI stuff that's out there. They can now have an AI bot create a much better grammatical sentence. They can have some information in there, and so they're now including instead of it all being fake, they're including 90% of it being kind of truthful and then they're getting you on that 10%. That is not the truthful aspect of that. To have what's going on.
Marc Gregoire:So they're not coming from the Prince of Nairobi anymore.
Nathan Mumm:They're not. They're not. Those are long gone. All right, let's go to story number four.
Marc Gregoire:Well, I don't know much time we have, but I have a little story to tell you, so sit back and relax a little bit, okay? So a few years ago, 2017, at Facebook's headquarters, an engineer, Tomer LeVond, sat in a conference room with a smartphone sitting on the brim of his baseball cap, tied together and anchored in place with different rubber bands. Absurd looking hat reminds me of the old beer cans that people have on the side. Yep.
Marc Gregoire:And he just sat there because he had a big presentation to do but nobody knew what it was about and what he could do is remarkable. So a handful of men in the room were laughing and speaking and being excited and he just kind of going back and forth, looking at each one of them and just smiling, not saying anything but recording them, and then they decided to go and start the demo. As it started, he turned around without blinking, looked at one or the other gentleman and the little Cyclops eye on the smartphone said Zach Howard, zach Howard. Okay. And the gentleman looked up and said yes, that's me. And then he started looking at every single person in the room and then he wasn't, he was, did not know these people, and it started calling out everybody's name. Okay.
Marc Gregoire:And one of the other engineers in there said just looking at this and watching it, it felt very creepy, felt like something out of dystopian movie, and so pretty much what they had developed at the time at Facebook and, as we'll learn soon, google also at the time was facial recognition, and both these companies, these large tech companies, decided not to release the technology as is or was at that time, because too many ramifications I mean we had Facebook, had already done that for some tagging of photos, you know, just to help people with their photos and their binders, and with that they had a class action lawsuit.
Marc Gregoire:They lost a $650 million lawsuit and so the technology was kind of stifled. Now here we are, years later, and you have Clearview AI, which you have talked about, and PIMEIs, which you've also talked about on this show, which have pushed the boundaries of what the public thought was possible with releasing. Releasing face search engines Even these are semi-benign when you drop your picture in there, it does a search throughout the web and it can pull up your different social media, reveal your name. You can even find risky photos, scare photos of you, you know, and I've done searches for you on that before.
Nathan Mumm:Oh yeah, have you sent me down in the Miami outfits? Oh no, I just wish. Yeah, that's right, okay.
Marc Gregoire:But you know these startups had done what the technology giants hadn't they released the technology on a public platform and it's really not a technical, technical Decision to be made.
Nathan Mumm:Okay, it's really an ethical, an ethical one. So do you think Google and Facebook are gonna then release out if they had this information for the last four or five years and they've been kind of sitting on it because we're all too scared as a Nation, maybe on some of the stuff that's gonna happen Do you think they're gonna release it?
Marc Gregoire:Yes, okay, with with, I think it's gonna come out. You know, nobody ever wants to be left behind, so they sat on it while they had it, but if other people start releasing it and AI is coming forward, I think you're gonna see this being released. Okay, that's gonna be an interesting deal because some of these scanners.
Nathan Mumm:I mean they're getting pretty good now. They can scan people and track them and follow them and they now have these Augmented reality glasses that are coming on out, and we're gonna be talking about augmented reality in the new a. Switch to that is secret information got released right for that. So they're not gonna have the new switch to this can have an augmented camera built in.
Marc Gregoire:What sat on this is this is like all technology. The good that this could have done for those blind and many other applications, is tremendous to help further humanity, and Yet what always happens is it gets used for nefarious affairs. That's that's a shame. That's a shame.
Nathan Mumm:All right. Well, we're gonna head out now. We've had a little bit of an extended Deal since we don't have mics mesmerizing moment we decided to do four good stories. There was a lot of great stories out there, so we're gonna head out to a commercial break. When we come on back, we're gonna have Gwen way joining us on our gadgets and gear segments. So you absolutely do not want to miss out on this. You're listening to tech time with Nathan mum. See you out to this commercial break.
Nathan Mumm:Hello listeners, we're excited here at tech time radio, aren't we, mike? Oh, no, we have an announcement to make. We are so excited to be a part of the new launch of italk radio live, the internet 24 by 7 streaming service. You will still be able to listen to us live here at Kixie 880, nkk and WN all of our affiliate stations but you'll be able to listen to us at 8 am Monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday and Friday. Now we look forward to this new opportunity to provide you tech time radio every weekday. And, again, you can always catch us online at tech time radio comm. Welcome back to tech time with Nathan mum, our weekly technology show talking about current technology and a simple fat without Simple facts without having to geek out, brought to you by myself, nathan, mum and micro day. We just had our first whiskey tasting. You're in the break now mark what are we sipping in our Show today?
Marc Gregoire:we have a special one today. If anybody out there, you astute listeners and viewers. If you are a whiskey connoisseur, make sure to stay, for marks mumbles on this one. But for right now we are drinking while turkey 101 12 years well, viewers well viewers.
Marc Gregoire:So from the back of the box which we have the beautiful box here. I'll be taking the bottle out a little bit later and we'll display both of them, but I wanted everybody to see the box first. It says born from the father and son distilling genius of Jimmy and Eddie Russell. Okay, while turkey, 12 year old distillers reserve is a Kentucky straight bourbon of the highest character. This special release has been carefully selected from the distillers favorite reserve. Brailed at a lower proof and slowly mature to create a bourbon is exceptional Quality with notes of vanilla, rich caramel, hints of spice and a long chocolate orange finish. While turkey, 12 year is a showcase of the world-renowned craftsmanship of Jimmy and Eddie Russell and brilliantly reveals the bold and distinctive character of wild turkey bourbon. So this is released from a course compari group which owns while turkey distillery in Lawrenceburg, kentucky. It's a straight bourbon, 12 years, 101 proof. Most of that you could tell by the title anyways.
Marc Gregoire:Yeah it's 75 corn, 13 percent rye, 12 barley, and it's roughly depending. It's only sold overseas. We'll be talking about that later. It's roughly $70, depending upon exchange rate at the time. Secondary market in the US is a hundred and seventy five dollars currently, or a 700 milliliter bottle.
Nathan Mumm:Wow, this is, you know. It's really smooth, though really smooth. No bite. I get no bite at it.
Marc Gregoire:So us whiskey connoisseurs hate when somebody says smooth, that usually means crappy whiskey, really no.
Nathan Mumm:I like a smooth taste.
Marc Gregoire:It's just say, you know okay.
Nathan Mumm:It's a very what we want to be a very earthy.
Marc Gregoire:Is it an earthy taste?
Nathan Mumm:What do you want me to say?
Marc Gregoire:You can say it's very well balanced oh balanced, okay, okay, all right.
Nathan Mumm:Well, with our first whiskey tasting complete, let's move on to our future segment. Today we have Gwen way joining the show. She's an expert in cybersecurity during the day and a game board geek in the evenings. Producer of tech time, radio and our gadgets and gear gal. Let's get ready to start our Comcast video stream to start our next segment. What's new in our gadgets and gear.
Nathan Mumm:All right, gwen, welcome to the show today. How is your company dealing with this Facebook messenger scam? That's the first question I have off oh first question is love your hair.
Marc Gregoire:It's different, thank you.
Gwen Way:Yeah.
Marc Gregoire:Okay.
Nathan Mumm:Gwen has different hair colors, like every every time she's on, so I mean we don't just be it. Okay, all right, so tell us, how are you guys doing with the Facebook messenger scam? Have you guys seen that yet, gwen?
Gwen Way:We've seen it a couple of times. The biggest thing that we've told people is, just like you said, facebook does not move this quickly and they are not going to reach out to you via messenger.
Nathan Mumm:Isn't that the? Is that the saddest thing to say? That's what I tell people. First off, facebook is a free service. They're never going to return your call within like two to three weeks. No, don't, don't get excited about it. They're like, oh well, we thought they were actually really concerned about us. Like yeah, no, okay.
Gwen Way:The other thing that we suggest is actually go to the Facebook help page. If you get one of these messages and think it might be real, it's not, but if you go to the help page, they'll actually give you proof that it's not, so everybody will believe you there you go.
Nathan Mumm:That makes that makes sense, that makes complete. It's all right? Well, we're gonna get on to our gadgets and gear here now. It's very interesting because we talked about this subject, so my wife is listening and and she's, I think, gonna be, very, very interested in this device itself. So tell us a little bit about what you found on Kickstarter. Tell us all about the product. And then I got some questions on this sure, sure.
Gwen Way:So this is actually something that I am personally interested in, as is my husband. We recently moved out of Seattle proper and suddenly things got much quieter and we can't sleep because it's too quiet it's too quiet.
Nathan Mumm:That's I butt up against a freeway. I kind of have the same thing. I like that white noise a little bit. So okay, I hear you, I hear you exactly.
Gwen Way:So what I found on Kickstarter is something called Oslo sleep buds, and it's oh, oh Zlo, and Basically, what they are are smart earplugs, if you will. So, rather than just putting the the normal earplugs in and Hearing nothing, what these can do is, when paired with an app on your phone or tablet, they can actually counter any noise that does come up. So it's it's giving you your. It's giving you sound waves that actually block sound, or it can play, you know, a Fan, rain, the ocean, whatever makes you calm down.
Marc Gregoire:Okay, espn.
Gwen Way:It can. Actually it can play any podcast that you listen to. I don't know, maybe tech time.
Nathan Mumm:Okay, of course not maybe that's for sure.
Speaker 9:That's absolutely your subscribing to that.
Marc Gregoire:I like to sleep. Oh, I don't want to say that no, that keeps you awake.
Nathan Mumm:That's, that's the problem. Okay, all right, so tell us how many. How many different Air buds or different sleeping devices have you looked into before looking into this product? Because my wife has the traditional Headphones. She kind of sticks them in her ears, she sleeps with them in the middle of the night, I think I swear she listens to like Harry Potter books all night long and then and then she goes to sleep. And how have you kind of evaluated this towards other units?
Gwen Way:So I've actually used a couple of different things to. I use earbuds kind of like what I've got in right now. I have tried just the plain earplugs that block everything. But then you have trouble waking up in the morning and at this point I just Play something quietly on my iPad. My husband kind of deals with it at this point, but this would allow us to each play whatever we want to, or even play nothing, and just block the sound out. Get enough sleep. And also I know you're gonna ask this in a minute, but it does have an alarm feature.
Nathan Mumm:It has an alarm feature. Now, this is kind of a that's nice. So this is kind of yeah, this is what I guess every and I don't listen to. So I fall asleep just myself watching this stuff and I have my earbuds in and then my wife will kick me or nudge me and say, hey, wake up. And I just put my earbuds away.
Nathan Mumm:But yeah a lot of that earbuds that you have. Like, if you have yourself a iPhone setup, you're gonna have to have your phone available to you now. Does this built-in Process require that you have your phone hooked into this, or how does this alarm work with these earbuds?
Gwen Way:It does work through an app. It can be on your phone, it can be on a tablet, whatever you want to work with, so it does actually communicate with that. Once it's set up, though, you put the earbuds in, and Whenever you decide that you're ready to wake up, it will play a tone that only you can hear.
Marc Gregoire:I oh, so it plays. It doesn't vibrate, it's a tone.
Gwen Way:It vibrates, it plays a tone. You actually have a couple of different ways that you can set it up to wake you up so that it's what you prefer. But it's quiet, it's only to you, so it's not going to disturb your partner or anybody else. It would even work in a plane and you wouldn't disturb the person sitting next to you.
Marc Gregoire:That's great, because I wear this little wristband and I don't really track anything, except I use it as an alarm to wake me up in the morning. So it doesn't wake and see, my wife keeps her watch on because she has to always keep track.
Nathan Mumm:Now, does it have analytics so it knows when you're waking up, when you're not waking up? Does it have in the app?
Gwen Way:Yeah, it's in the app. It tracks your sleep, so the actual earpiece knows when you fall asleep and it tracks you know, okay, he's moving more than normal or hey, she's talking in her sleep. Something must be up. And then it actually compiles all of that in the application and you can take a look at it, see what sounds work better to help you fall asleep more quickly and sleep more deeply, or see what you need to do to kind of shake things up.
Nathan Mumm:All right, so this is located. Where's this company located at again?
Gwen Way:They are out of Boston Massachusetts.
Nathan Mumm:Okay, and what was their goal was? It was like 30,000 type of deal.
Gwen Way:They're over 1.1 million at this point, so they've definitely got it.
Nathan Mumm:1.1 million people have backed this.
Gwen Way:Exactly so. You have to look at it.
Nathan Mumm:They've made a product for Bose. This company actually made a product for Bose I don't know, so I was doing a little bit of research of this because my wife was kind of interested in this type of deal. So they made a product for Bose. This is like their Generation 2 product. But they decided to not partner with Bose and go out on their own company and their selves. Some of the people were asking, hey, can I trade my old Bose speakers in? And the poor guy said no, you can't. This is a brand new device that we're coming on out with.
Nathan Mumm:So they have expertise making this already a Generation 1 version. So this is their Generation 2 version, nice.
Marc Gregoire:Now, gwen, I got a question for us side sleepers, so that's all these are my problems. You know, late at night I have my headset saying I kind of fall asleep by accident. But then when I turn on my side, you know I wake up.
Gwen Way:It either falls out or it pushes further in and it's uncomfortable either way. This is actually made to take that into account. It's actually got a flat profile externally and it's got kind of an umbrella shaped tip, so it goes in blocks everything on the inside without leaving major things on the outside that are going to bother you when you wake up. There's also a little loop in there so you can just reach in and pull it out easily. You don't have to worry about it getting lodged. It works for side sleepers too.
Nathan Mumm:And it protects your ears from spiders crawling in them at night.
Gwen Way:Definitely the number one concern.
Nathan Mumm:Yeah, that's a big concern for some people. Let me just tell you, there's like a big concern with spiders crawling in people's ears. So you get this. It covers your ear, it keeps you safe at night too. All right there you go All right. Well, gwen, we are really excited about it. Where can we find us again on Kickstarter? What is the name of this?
Gwen Way:again, Go to Kickstarter. They are the Oslo Sleepbuds O-Z-L-O. They're the first thing that comes up when you enter that in. And, yeah, I highly recommend this one for sure.
Nathan Mumm:All right, we thank you so much for being a part of our show. Gwen, thank you so much, and we always look forward to every second Tuesday of the month because she is a vital part of what makes this show great each week. All right, that ends our segment. Gads is in Gear Up. Next we have this Week in Technology, so now would be a great time to enjoy a little whiskey on the side. We'll see you after this break.
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Nathan Mumm:Alright, we're going back to September 10th 1990. Archie search engine, the first internet search engine. Now let's talk about this. The first internet search is not the internet web search engine, so there's two differences. This is a search engine that was collecting information on the internet.
Nathan Mumm:The first internet search engine, archie, was launched. It was used to index FTP archives to make finding files easier. Created by Alan M Tagg, a postgraduate student of McGill University in Montreal, canada. However, as a technology for the worldwide web was not invented until years later, this was the first web search engine in the aspect that it took information that was posted on FTP sites, collected all the information and let people then search for those articles and information. The name derives from the word archive with the V and, contrary to popular belief, this was not associated with the Archie comics. Despite this, though, other search technologies were created at the beginning of the internet, called Jughead and Veronica, that were named after the characters of the comics themselves. The earliest version of Archie would be simply searching a list of public, anonymous files on FTP sites. So let's kind of explain what FTP is. Ftp still exists today.
Marc Gregoire:People use it all the time. I just used it yesterday, you just used it yesterday.
Nathan Mumm:Essentially, what it does is when you have a computer on the internet one location and a computer at another internet location. This is like dragging a file in your explorer over from one folder to another folder, but instead of going in it from folder to folder on a computer, you're doing it from an FTP address, which is an IP address, and you're dragging it on over to another FTP site, which is another computer on a different part of the network that has a address itself also. So this is kind of like cutting pasting information from one computer on the internet to another computer on the internet. It's been around, for FTP's existence goes all the way back to 1965, when they actually had FTP sites where you could copy information back and forth with the United States Secret Services and government entities that were in place. So there you go.
Marc Gregoire:I got one question before we sign off on this. Okay, did you ever use Archie?
Nathan Mumm:Did I ever use Archie? I don't think I did. I don't think I did. Did you use?
Marc Gregoire:Archie, yeah, it makes me feel old. Did you use it? I am older than you.
Nathan Mumm:I did use Usenet groups, and Usenet groups used a lot of searching algorithms of FTP files that were posted, so I probably used a version that somebody edited with a little bit of a graphic interface, for that, I'm sure, is what I did. So, all right. Well, that was this week in technology. If you ever wanted to see some Tech Time history, with over two years of video podcast blog information, you can visit us at techtimeradiocom and watch our other shows. We're going to head out here and when we return we have our Mark's Whiskey Mumble Whiskey Review and our technology fail the week. We'll see after the break.
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Marc Gregoire:Well, it's great to be in studio for this. I love being in here.
Nathan Mumm:You know what? I'm drinking a much quicker of your whiskey. You're taking a lot longer.
Marc Gregoire:I'm savoring it. Is there savoring it? More importantly, before we get to the whiskey, what's today? What are we celebrating today?
Nathan Mumm:Oh, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know your list. I have looked to find your list of where you get your crazy stuff. What crazy day is today?
Marc Gregoire:Oh, today is National. Ants on a Log Day.
Nathan Mumm:Ants on a Log Day.
Marc Gregoire:Yep celebrating the protein pack snack that everybody loves, first named in the 1950s. Do you remember Celery coated with peanut butter topped with raisins? Wow, and it's on the log. I didn't like it because I didn't like raisins.
Nathan Mumm:I'm not a raisin guy at all.
Marc Gregoire:I don't eat peanut butter still to this day. Okay, but half the kids always had a snack.
Nathan Mumm:So this snack now has an official day, yeah.
Marc Gregoire:Wow.
Nathan Mumm:I don't mind celery. As a matter of fact, I kind of like celery.
Marc Gregoire:I like celery.
Nathan Mumm:I'm not a big celery, though with I like it with cream cheese. I don't know if that's really though the blue cheese.
Marc Gregoire:Oh yeah, I don't know if that's really the Chicken wings on the side.
Nathan Mumm:The use of it because you're supposed to celery is like a no calorie type of deal and when you put your calories in there, but all right, let's talk about the whiskey.
Marc Gregoire:Let's do that, because those that have stuck around and listened to this are gonna get a special treat today. Okay, so, since today is the 12th of September, I brought something that's 12 years old. Oh, okay. So I brought in Wild Turkey 12 year, which is back finally, sorda. Okay, so let's talk about that. It was first released in the 80s in the US and the Japan market and it slowly transitioned to Japan, only, sadly, in 2012, production was discontinued. So after a 10 year hiatus, hi-.
Nathan Mumm:Hiatus. Thank you, that's all right. I'm here to correct all the English words that need to be corrected.
Marc Gregoire:Wow when somebody's worse than Nathan. Oh my God, I'm gonna get razzed by my wife tonight.
Marc Gregoire:All right, but it's very exciting to have this whiskey back. Okay, so the downside it's only been released back into the markets of Japan, south Korea and Australia. As far as I know, I was lucky enough to get a bottle from a friend that had visited South Korea. Shout out to Justin, he's a pilot in the US armed forces. Fantastic. Now, what a whiskey this is Okay. The only negative I have is you have to go overseas for this American bourbon. The nose is rich and powerful, with caramel, vanilla, cherry, oak spice. As you sip the sweet nectar, I get chocolate and oak together and that just makes this wonderful combination. Finally, that mouth feel is lush and velvety. If you do get your hands on one of these bottles, make a note that the neck pore is very muted, so when you first open it, very muted so-so it needs time after being opened to become the bourbon it's meant to be.
Nathan Mumm:Okay.
Marc Gregoire:So I opened this, was disappointed, let it sit for about three weeks, came back to it and it was like oh my goodness.
Nathan Mumm:Now it's. This is fantastic, this is great stuff. All right, you know Nathan's better than pairing whiskey and technology, kind of like pairing woody and buzz light ear from Toy Story.
Marc Gregoire:Oh, I'll take that one. That's a good combo. That says pretty good, you know Toy.
Nathan Mumm:Story 5's coming on out. They're gonna remake another one, so who knows what goes on here Technology fail. All right, let's move to our technology. Fail the week. We are out of time. Congratulations, you're a failure. Oh, I failed. Did I yes, Did I yes Did. I yes, hey, have you ever gone to Vegas? Yeah, okay, have you ever been at the MGM?
Marc Gregoire:Hotel I have.
Nathan Mumm:All right. Well, if you're checking into the MGM Hotel currently, right now, the MGM Resort website is currently unavailable and if you go to their site he said we apologize for the inconvenience. You can call our hotel at a reservation. You can get ahold of us for our attraction at Ticketmastercom and if you wanna see the Golden Knights or something, please give us a call at axblabablacom or visit us at 866-7617-1111.
Marc Gregoire:So MGM is down. Anybody under 40 is not gonna be making reservations if they have to call.
Nathan Mumm:So MGM is shut down because of a cyber attack. This is not the first time, though, MGM has been taken care of. They have. Actually, this is their second time where they have been completely shut down. Another incident happened in 2019 where their cloud services was breached and the hacker stole more than 10 million customers records. But the best part about this right now is you never know where you may go with your room keys, because guests are reporting that room keys don't always work for their rooms, but it may work for somebody else's rooms down the hall. So if you're in the MGM type of deal and you got your card key with you, just start visiting all your friends and neighbors and see which doors can open up If you're also looking to Make sure to always wear a towel if you're at the MGM.
Nathan Mumm:If you're looking to make any reservations, you can go and talk to their concierge desk and their concierge desk will tell you that they can't help you and you need to call a 1-800 number. Mgm restaurants and services to the fail. There we go. All right, don't go visiting your MGM rewards app either, because that's no longer working and those points may not be accumulated during your visits. All right, let's now move on to our Nathan Nugget. This is your Nugget of the Week.
Nathan Mumm:All right, we got the Apple Wunderlust event that was broadcast today. If you want an Apple Watch Series 9, you can go and get a new one. That will be available with the new series request now available. Those prices will be at 3.99. You've got a double tap gestures which are being added to the phone so you can answer them. The iPhone 15 is coming on out and guess what it has?
Nathan Mumm:It only has USB-C so the lightning charges are thrown away, no longer gonna be taken care of. Essentially, the industry is not happy with Apple because they're not increasing any of their prices or keeping their consumer prices down at the standard rates they currently have for their new products. So who's?
Marc Gregoire:not happy with this.
Nathan Mumm:Well, the industries are not happy, but the consumers should be happy. With a smile.
Marc Gregoire:They're happy they can get new technology. I'm happy because I have to buy one for my older daughter there you go.
Nathan Mumm:So there you go, have it taken care of All right now let's move to our pick of the day.
Speaker 2:And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings. Let's see what bubbles to the top.
Marc Gregoire:All right After last week the Bockel. I wanted to bring in a nice one for you. I was hoping Mike was gonna be here. So sorry, we miss you, Mike. I brought in Wild Turkey 101, 12 years. This is fantastic.
Nathan Mumm:It is an overseas release only Thumbs up All the way. I'm a big thumbs up, Odie. What did you think?
Speaker 6:You know I haven't had a whiskey in a really long time.
Nathan Mumm:I'm glad that I finally jumped in for this one. It was worth it. I really liked it. It was worth it.
Speaker 5:The taste was good. You know I don't understand the smooth thing, but it was smooth for me. What's so bad about that?
Nathan Mumm:Yeah, I don't know either. I was very smooth. I thought it was easy to drink and I liked that.
Marc Gregoire:I'll explain that the downside is smooth off the On the iron when we go to our post-production event.
Nathan Mumm:Okay, there we go, as we go on, as we recap each of our shows.
Speaker 7:But did you give it a thumbs up? Oh my gosh, what was your gift?
Nathan Mumm:So three thumbs up all the way around.
Marc Gregoire:Oh, my goodness Three thumbs up you couldn't tell by my Mark's mumble the way I described it. I was still a lot Sweet nectar and still the idea of fish oil. Ants on the log are still killing me.
Nathan Mumm:I'm still trying to figure out how that's an actual day itself. That's interesting. Oh, I want to thank all of our listeners that joined our program today. You want to venture over to techtimeradiocom and always click on the upper right-hand corner to be a caller for our talk back recording system. You can ask us any technology question and I'll talk about it on the air. So if you want to get your free technical support, forget going to Facebook. Come here and decide to go there and ask a talk back From all of us at Techtime. It was an honor to be the host of today's show.
Marc Gregoire:And thank you for inviting me back here to co -host with Mike out. Always, always, we always go long, the two of us. Thank you for the whiskey, though, mark, you're welcome.
Nathan Mumm:Now, as we leave you this week, remember the science of tomorrow starts with the technology of today. That you're supposed to say bye-bye oh bye-bye. There you go. See you everybody next week.
