202: Digital Defenses and Ukraine Drone Dilemmas: Navigating Cybersecurity with Nick Espinosa. Tesla's Marketing is Gone, Elon Musk is Creating a TV Streaming Service on X, as Amazon Ends California Drone Deliveries | Air Date: 4/21 - 4/27/24

Cybersecurity wizard Nick Espinosa joins us this week on Tech Time Radio, and the knowledge he drops is nothing short of a digital fortress for your online safety. As we unravel the complex web of recent hacking methods and data breaches, Nick's expertise helps us empower you with strategies to fortify your cyber footprint. Amidst the tech tussle, we also dissect Tesla's polarizing marketing cuts and Elon Musk's staunch defense, questioning the long-term effects on Tesla's trajectory. Plus, we're stirring up the media pot with a candid look at the buzz and skepticism around a new smart TV app announcement by X—will it revolutionize your viewing experience or fizzle out as just another fleeting trend?

Fasten your seatbelts because we're taking flight with the potential and challenges of drone delivery systems. Amazon's ambitious airway adventures meet headwinds with FAA regulations and privacy controversies in California and Texas, igniting a debate on the future of doorstep deliveries. We also throwback to a Windows 98 moment with Bill Gates that proves tech blunders can be stepping stones to success, and we're raising our glasses to National Take a Chance Day, sharing tales of leaps of faith that landed in triumph. And yes, there's whiskey involved—our tasting notes on Wilderness Trail's Wheated Bourbon will have you savoring the flavor of seizing the day.

The future of tech isn't all about gadgets and gizmos; it's about how we adapt and stay alert. We close the show with a stark reminder of our vulnerability in the digital age, recounting a harrowing Bitcoin scam that echoes the importance of cyber vigilance. It's a heartfelt thank you to our listeners who've been on this journey with us—your engagement is the heartbeat of our show. So, here's to another week of navigating the twists and turns of the tech world, one sip and one click at a time. Remember, the conversation continues at techtimeradio.com, where technology savviness meets community.

Episode 202: Starts at :30

Episode 202:  Welcome fellow tech enthusiasts to the radio show, where we blend bits and bytes into a delightful digital cocktail with a little whiskey on the side! 

It's time for TechTime Radio, where we unravel the mysteries of technology, one byte at a time. Stay tuned! Join us weekly on TechTime Radio with Nathan Mumm, the show that makes you go "Humm" Technology news of the week for April 21st - April 27th, 2024

--- [Now on Today's Show]
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• X just announced a smart TV app that will most definitely happen, or will it?
• Probable cause documents filed against Tesla driver in fatal motorcycle accident
• Amazon ends California drone deliveries
• Documents on a North Korean server suggest that US studios may have unknowingly outsourced animation work.

 --- [Pick of the Day - Whiskey Tasting Reveal]
Wilderness Trail Wheated Bourbon | 111.1 Proof | $70

--- [Ask the Expert - Nick Espinosa]
Nick talks about four security concerns in the latest hacking news. US government data exposed after Space-Eyes data breach and much more.

--- [This Week in Technology]
April 20, 1998 - Plug and Pray
 
--- [Marc's Whiskey Mumble]
Marc Gregoire's review of this week's whiskey

--- [Technology Fail of the Week]
This week’s “Technology Fail” comes to us from Tesla Marketing Layoffs

--- [Mike's Mesmerizing Moment brought to us by StoriCoffee®]
Question: Why do we think technology can replace items like driving and other tasks?

--- [Nathan Nugget]
Kitboga, a popular "scam baiter," has a combined Twitch and YouTube following of more than a million subscribers.

--- [Pick of the Day Whiskey Review]
Wilderness Trail Wheated Bourbon | 111.1 Proof | $70
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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Broadcasting across the nation, from the East Coast to the West, keeping you up to date on technology while enjoying a little whiskey on the side, with leading edge topics, along with special guests to navigate technology in a segmented, stylized radio program. The information that will make you go, mmm. Pull up a seat, raise a glass with our hosts as we spend the next hour talking about technology for the common person. Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm.

Nathan Mumm: 0:31

Welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm, the show that makes you go technology news of the week. The show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mumm, your host and technologist, with over 30 years of technology expertise. Our co-host, mike Rodea, is in studio today. He's an award-winning author and a human behavior expert. Now we are live streaming during our show on five of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, twitchtv X, facebook and LinkedIn. We encourage you to visit us online at techtimeradiocom and become a Patreon supporter at patreoncom forward slash techtimeradio. We are friends from different backgrounds, but we bring the best technology show possible weekly for our family, friends and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have Odi, our producer, at the control panel today. Welcome everyone. Let's start today's show.

Speaker 1: 1:31

Now on today's show.

Nathan Mumm: 1:35

All right Today on Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. Cybersecurity guru Nick Espinosa will join us on the show today. He's going to share the insight in the latest hacking techniques, data breaches and how to protect yourself in this digital age. Then we're going to shift our gears to the electric car industry. Tesla, the trailblazer in electric vehicles, has made a surprising move. They decided to cut their marketing team as a sign of the trouble for the company to come. We analyze the numbers and discuss what this means for Tesla's future. And speaking of Tesla's CEO, elon Musk recently responded to a post on X defending the layoff decisions. Some say that he laid off staff could have done a better job with their ads. We'll break that down.

Nathan Mumm: 2:12

And X just announced this morning a smart TV app that will revolutionize your viewing experience. Will it live up to the hype? We'll discuss whether this app is a game changer or another tech fad. But wait, there's even more excitement. A staggering headline America lost a record $12.5 billion to internet crimes last year. Cyber criminals are running rampant. We're discussing how you can stay safe online.

Nathan Mumm: 2:39

You've probably heard of Kit Bogo, the famous scam baiter. Have you heard of him? No, oh, we're going to be talking about him in the Nathan Nuggets. We've got to get through all of our main stuff so I can talk a little bit about what we have going on there. So buckle up, dear listeners. It's time for Tech Time Radio, where we unravel the mysteries of technology one bite at a time. Of course we always have our mics mesmerizing moment. Our technology failed the week in a possible Nathan negative. We get through all of our items but the most important aspect we have our pick of the day whiskey tasting to see if our selected whiskey pick of the day gets zero, one or two thumbs up at the end of the show. Now it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology.

Speaker 1: 3:20

Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm: 3:24

Alright story number one hot off the press this morning. X announced a smart TV app. That will most definitely happen, or will it? Let's go to Corinne Westland for more information on this story.

Speaker 4: 3:39

X just announced a smart TV app for streaming video, or more accurately, that it claims it's building one, with absolutely no launch date mentioned. The appropriately named XTV wants to be your go-to companion for a high-quality, immersive entertainment experience on a larger screen. By high-quality entertainment X likely means that one Tucker Carlson video, where he's really impressed by grocery carts in Russia. That's not a joke. Carlson is featured prominently in the little teaser video. Ex-ceo and marketing arm for Elon Musk, linda Iaccarino, promises real-time content and wide availability, but other than that, details are nowhere. So it's also a mobile app that casts to a TV. I think Chromecast has been around for 10 years now. Is there another word for less than half-baked? Now back to you guys in the studio.

Mike Gorday: 4:28

Wow, corrine is going off on Wow, I don't know about this.

Nathan Mumm: 4:33

Look at Mark over here. He's got like two thumbs up. He's like Corrine's, my buddy. Well, okay, so here's what we got. X announced XTV.

Mike Gorday: 4:41

XTV. This sounds like something that doesn't show up on your motel building.

Nathan Mumm: 4:45

That's right, XTV. So you know, only in the Elon Musk world can you wake up one morning, decide to put out a tweet saying that you are now going to create an app for television. Have no developers, maybe working on it, have nothing else in there, but you know what? This will be the next game winner. Let's just see how well X has done over the past year or so, and we're going to talk about the awesome Twitter replacement of Brand X that still works so well. How many people know the difference between X and Twitter?

Mike Gorday: 5:12

I don't know, but everybody keeps saying X formerly known as well. That's like Prince formerly. What do you mean? Change his name? Yeah, the artist formerly known as Prince.

Nathan Mumm: 5:22

Yeah, so they still have a brand.

Mike Gorday: 5:23

Yes, so they still have a brand recognition.

Nathan Mumm: 5:25

That was really strong with Twitter and they changed it, but that went really well.

Mike Gorday: 5:28

Yeah, but see that didn't belong to Musk.

Nathan Mumm: 5:31

Yeah, well, the whole thing is going to be powered by AI. So X did create a chatbot, Grok. It's like Ask Jeeves, and I'm trying to be as nice as I can on the.

Speaker 5: 5:40

AI bot. It is horrible.

Nathan Mumm: 5:41

Ask Jeeves. Yeah, but it's non-woke. So I guess essentially non-woke means that we really don't even have a database. We just kind of respond to you with basic questions. So that was released. Now he did promise to release a payments and banking platform last year, so we're still waiting for that to come around, but I'm sure that's in the works, maybe before the TV app, maybe after the TV app. Or let's check about their brand new job platform that they were going to have a job platform that would make it really easy for you to submit jobs on the X platform. So essentially, in two years, musk has created everything that he thinks about. When he wakes up the next morning, makes an announcement about it, has his token, executives make announcements about it, and now we got XTV in their loom.

Mike Gorday: 6:29

This is Elon having a pitch meeting with himself.

Nathan Mumm: 6:32

Is he in a pitch meeting? That YouTube type of start yeah.

Mike Gorday: 6:36

That's just like when we sit around and you come up with all these weird half-baked business ideas.

Nathan Mumm: 6:42

But at least I don't come on and announce them as a new platform.

Mike Gorday: 6:46

No, that's because you don't own a Twitter, so if I own Twitter.

Nathan Mumm: 6:50

You're saying that I come up with this thing. Maybe I don't know, you know what's really nice about this? It actually makes me want to watch real TV again. Why?

Nathan Mumm: 6:57

At least companies coming on out with this type of stuff, Because I now find I have a TiVo unit. You know, this is the old DVR unit that you would record commercials and you could fast forward through it like a two minute button and everything. It is easier for me now to record stuff on live TV, watch it again on my TiVo unit and it's like almost probably 10 to 15 minutes quicker than if I do a streaming service where I have to go through the two minutes of ads. Two minutes of ads, two minutes of ads.

Mike Gorday: 7:25

Streaming has become old TV.

Nathan Mumm: 7:29

When streaming first came out, we didn't have to do this thing Like a 45-minute show now takes an hour and 10 minutes on streaming.

Mike Gorday: 7:36

Depending on the ad. Sometimes they have these 90-minute ads that show up in the middle of your YouTube video.

Nathan Mumm: 7:41

Well, for all those that are really excited out there, don't you fret. I'm sure XTV is going to be the next release of the near future, maybe possibly smart TV app that will essentially let you watch items that you could probably already watch on your PC or your phone, but now you can watch them on TV.

Mike Gorday: 7:58

So is Grok going to be the AI power behind this?

Nathan Mumm: 8:01

That's pretty sad.

Mike Gorday: 8:03

Grok is from Stranger in a Strange Land. That's pretty sad. Grok is from A Stranger in a Strange Land.

Nathan Mumm: 8:05

That's a book, yeah so the AI is probably the worst AI of all the AIs that I use. I don't use it. I literally, if I need to post something on Twitter, I'll just go use.

Mike Gorday: 8:17

ChatGPT or use Twitter all the time.

Nathan Mumm: 8:19

So there you go, all right. Well, I'm so excited for this announcement, yeah sounds like it Story number two, mike.

Mike Gorday: 8:26

Well, I don't think it was that long ago that I was talking about this thing that we're going to talk about, okay, electric cars having an autopilot. Yeah, we talked about this. And what did I say about two? Maybe a month ago, two months ago?

Nathan Mumm: 8:45

He said one of these days, somebody's just going to just put in autopilot and not even drive. Yep, okay Well guess what?

Mike Gorday: 8:51

What? Something happened right here in our neighborhood Okay, not that far from actually where we both live, that's correct, yep when somebody in a Tesla car put on autopilot, decided he was going to play things on his phone and ended up hitting somebody and killing them. What Explain more Well probable cause documents were filed against the driver of a Tesla self-driving vehicle that hit and killed a motorcyclist in a collision on the afternoon of Friday, april the 19th. The collision occurred on State Route 522, which is not too far away from us here in the station.

Mike Gorday: 9:33

The driver was reportedly headed home from lunch and had the Tesla on autopilot while looking at his phone when the Tesla lurched forward into the back of 28-year-old Jeffrey Neeson's motorcycle, pinning him underneath the car. He was then pronounced deceased at the scene. Police questioned the driver at the scene and conducted field sobriety testing after the driver stated that he had consumed one alcoholic beverage earlier that day, but he was found not to be impaired. He was then placed under arrest for vehicular homicide based on his admitted inattention to driving while the car was moving. Wow.

Nathan Mumm: 10:11

So you put his Tesla in, but Tesla doesn't say you're supposed to put a car in.

Mike Gorday: 10:18

This is where we have this conflict, so it doesn't. Do you read the warning labels on things?

Nathan Mumm: 10:25

Do I read the warnings? Sometimes very fewly, yeah, very rarely, very, very rarely.

Mike Gorday: 10:29

This is the same thing as the warning label on a pack of cigarettes or something. Okay, it says they have to by law. Say, okay, you've got to pay attention.

Nathan Mumm: 10:39

Okay.

Mike Gorday: 10:40

But that doesn't happen. I mean, it's so hard to keep drivers paying attention when they don't have autopilot, and as soon as you give them autopilot, that's just a recipe for disaster. So what do you think?

Nathan Mumm: 10:53

is going to happen. I mean so he killed a guy because he just didn't want to drive his car.

Mike Gorday: 10:56

Well, I think he's going to be, you know, summarily taken care of legally. Okay, I wouldn't be surprised if he turns right around and tries to sue Tesla. Okay, I don't think anything's going to happen until we see more of these and then the government agencies are going to get involved and start cracking down on some of this stuff and, you know, they may end up barring any more of this nonsense from being on the road.

Nathan Mumm: 11:26

But we learned this when we had Phil on the show, the self-driving vehicles. You've got to be careful. They don't work in the snow right because they can't see the lines.

Mike Gorday: 11:38

Yeah, there's a plethora of. There's a whole bunch of problems with the technology that is powering these things.

Nathan Mumm: 11:49

It's supposed to be assistant driving, though it doesn't say it's fully AI-driven, it's like AI-assisted right. So if you're taking a trip across America and you've got a bunch of open road, ahead of you, it's going to be able to steer.

Mike Gorday: 12:00

If you're in the middle of Nevada, this would probably be okay to use, except there's no charging station, so you wouldn't be in the middle of Nevada doing this. So that's just the way it goes, okay. All right, well, let's move on to one of my other predictions.

Nathan Mumm: 12:13

Okay, You're happy about this too. Story number three Odie, do you have ready to go?

Odi: 12:17

Yeah, I do. Okay, amazon is ending its prime air drone delivery service in California.

Nathan Mumm: 12:23

Oh, no In.

Odi: 12:24

Texas, which it's been around for what? Two years now.

Nathan Mumm: 12:28

Yeah, about two or three years We've talked about it.

Mike Gorday: 12:30

Yeah, yeah, it hasn't been that long.

Odi: 12:31

Yeah, so it's confirmed that it's ending its prime air drone delivery operations in Lockford, california, okay, which is home to about 3,500 people, which is the company's second US drone delivery site after College Station, texas.

Mike Gorday: 12:47

Okay.

Odi: 12:52

The Amazon is not offering details about why they're doing this. Okay, but they're only saying quote. We'll offer all current employees opportunities at other sites and will continue to serve customers in lockford with other delivery methods. We want to thank the community for all their support and feedback over the past few years end quote is it because these drones just can't deliver too much?

Nathan Mumm: 13:11

I mean, it's a very limited subset of what if I ordered like two hard drives and I think there's probably a lot of logistic problems that go along with this.

Mike Gorday: 13:20

but you know, I have this view that there are people in their backyard with shotguns and they're just shooting them down, they're just shooting them down In California, sure, shotguns, and they're just shooting them.

Odi: 13:28

They're just shooting them out of the sky, california, sure. Well, it doesn't really the.

Nathan Mumm: 13:30

The article doesn't say why, because amazon's not saying why, but, well, it's got a, you got airspace, so the faa has to be a problem.

Odi: 13:40

Right, it is a problem okay also with the fact that they're offering same day delivery. I just don't think it's, you don't need it.

Nathan Mumm: 13:47

You don't need it, I mean it is amazing, it I mean it is amazing. Now I'll order something Saturday morning and it comes Saturday afternoon to my house. Yeah, depending on what it is, I literally now sometimes will pay $2 or $3 more to get that item delivered the same day, and if I don't get it the same day I actually feel disappointed. Two-day now doesn't seem acceptable to me in prime well, I don't know.

Mike Gorday: 14:06

I have my track record with amazon deliveries are are like 60 40 okay 60, they get it there when they say they're in 40 of the time. I don't get it for like three weeks, oh really yeah, okay, yeah because, you know, when I moved into my new apartment, yeah, I had to order all my furniture and and I was doing a lot of that through Amazon- and.

Speaker 5: 14:28

I would get a notification oh sorry, this isn't going to be delivered today.

Mike Gorday: 14:33

We don't know when it's going to be delivered.

Odi: 14:35

It's probably going to be delivered in like two weeks, oh wow, what are you ordering off of Amazon that it takes so long?

Mike Gorday: 14:41

See, that's another thing I ordered one of them was a bookshelf that I ordered. Another thing was, oh, a bed frame.

Nathan Mumm: 14:51

Why did you just go to Ikea?

Mike Gorday: 14:53

I got a Because he's not a single bachelor. I don't have a truck to haul stuff around in, so I just get stuff delivered and then I build it in my little tiny apartment room.

Odi: 15:05

But yeah, so they've been running into expansion issues with other states because of all the regulations of surrounding drones. This does not affect the pharmacy meds that they're delivering in, uh is that phoenix area or something like that? No, it's texas. And texas.

Nathan Mumm: 15:21

Okay, so they can still, so you can still get your meds and pills and college and all your uppers and downers deliver.

Mike Gorday: 15:27

I feel like that's even more dangerous than I don't know. You know, when you say stuff like that and we talk about this stuff, there's always something in the back of my head that's like laughing.

Nathan Mumm: 15:37

Is it?

Mike Gorday: 15:38

Yeah, because that's a little crazy, Because you know you have a drone that's delivering your medications, right, right, yeah, that's like anybody can intercept that. Well, that's kind of interesting.

Odi: 15:53

Well, yeah, but.

Mike Gorday: 15:54

Hopefully you're not ordering.

Nathan Mumm: 15:55

Like people are running people are running around.

Mike Gorday: 15:57

I've seen the 420 companies down there.

Nathan Mumm: 15:59

Yeah, I don't know.

Mike Gorday: 16:00

That's just the way my brain works. You know, I'm thinking that they shoot them down and go get drugs and sell them to me.

Odi: 16:05

This is a fail on Amazon's part in my eyes.

Nathan Mumm: 16:07

Yeah, this was a big thing they did, but now they'll just steal your internet with the sidewalk option underneath each of their devices.

Mike Gorday: 16:13

Yeah, you got to be careful of that. Yeah, I was told that Xfinity has a sidewalk. Yeah, you told us that that was good too. Yeah, everybody's doing that.

Nathan Mumm: 16:20

All right, we're ready to. Server suggests US studios may have unknowingly sourced animation work in North Korea.

Speaker 9: 16:34

Let's go to David Larson for more on this story. North Korean illustrators and graphic designers appear to have helped produce work for US animation studios unbeknownst to those companies, suggesting that unreleased episodes of a few popular American cartoons could include work from one of the most closed-off economies in the world. The revelation comes from a trove of documents recently discovered by US researchers inside a computer server housed in North Korea. It's unclear how the files ended up in this tightly controlled portion of the Internet, since the US has imposed strict sanctions prohibiting American companies from doing business with the nuclear-armed regime. In addition to drawings for an upcoming season of the Amazon Prime video show Invincible, the files also contain sketches and videos that resemble work for Iyanu, child of Wonder, a superhero series slated to air on max. This sounds like someone was either outsourcing to the wrong company, or could this have been known?

Mike Gorday: 17:41

wow, he really posed a head scratch there you go is.

Nathan Mumm: 17:43

It was this known about this? So essentially that. So I love this guy. Okay, so the Nick Roy, a Boston-based cyber sleuth who regularly scans the North Korean internet as a hobby, found this North Korean website that outside visitors didn't need a password to access, and he unlocked all these animation sketches and shared them with the center of a Washington-based think tank. The documents were a series of Chinese instructions that have been translated into Korean. They call for making adjustments to the size and styles of the animations. Among the documents there's tons of sheets written in English with specifications for animation work. So the question comes here did North Korea just steal these animation files from these studios and they just have them as a base there, or is it that these actually studios? Maybe you're outsourcing these studios to somebody else that's outside of the country has then hired companies within North Korea to do the animation? That's kind of it's unknown, and I did as much research as I could find about this.

Nathan Mumm: 18:48

It's unknown how they got there, but clearly they got there and they weren't just stolen American documents because they have translation sets. They have heights in information that they want the graphics to be changed on and there's change and altered graphics within itself.

Mike Gorday: 19:05

So could this be North Korean artists that are doing this all?

Nathan Mumm: 19:16

Well, that's what it sounds like.

Mike Gorday: 19:18

Or is it possibly a North Korean company that has, you know, done some sort of wonky business?

Nathan Mumm: 19:25

I don't think so the way that it actually got found out and the information that's available that I could find out doesn't really look like North Korea actually hacked into it. It looks like this was maybe somebody using a company in the Philippines or somebody using another outsourced, maybe even India.

Nathan Mumm: 19:43

And then India has a connection into North Korea for some overload work and they decided to send it that way and then these North Koreans were doing a whole bunch of animation stuff for another company that then redid it for our American companies to have in place.

Mike Gorday: 20:00

Yeah, I feel like this is pretty complicated.

Nathan Mumm: 20:02

So it's pretty complicated Pretty complicated but normal business.

Mike Gorday: 20:06

You think so. This feels like the normal complications that you have with all these businesses running around trying to find cheaper labor and whatnot.

Nathan Mumm: 20:17

Yeah, they got this North Korean animation studio house that says sure, we can do that additional work that you need overloaded for, just send it to us, sure.

Marc Gregoire: 20:26

There you go, Okay well.

Nathan Mumm: 20:29

There's lots of questions.

Mike Gorday: 20:30

We'll see if the next, maybe they can help the next Disney animation story. Who knows, Maybe they can write it actually Okay.

Nathan Mumm: 20:38

Well, All right. That ends our top technology stories of the week. When we return, we have Nick Espinosa from Security Fanatics. He's going to join us to discuss something that is more dangerous than TikTok. More dangerous than TikTok, Uh-oh. I mean we all know that Nick loves TikTok so much, right?

Mike Gorday: 20:54

You know, out of everybody here, I think you're the only one that likes TikTok.

Nathan Mumm: 20:59

I do like TikTok. Odie likes.

Odi: 21:01

TikTok too. That's right, Odie likes TikTok. Respect on my name, sir.

Mike Gorday: 21:07

That has nothing to do with your name.

Nathan Mumm: 21:09

You know who I don't like is Facebook. Yeah, we already know about your Facebook.

Mike Gorday: 21:14

You're the Facebook guy and Mark is obviously the Elon Musk guy. There you go.

Nathan Mumm: 21:19

All right. Well, you're listening to Tech Time Radio. Make sure you join us to find out what's more dangerous than TikTok after this commercial break.

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Nathan Mumm: 22:32

Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm, where our weekly show covers the top technology subjects without any political agenda. We verify the facts and we do it with a sense of humor, in less than 60 minutes and, of course, with a little whiskey on our side. Today, Mark Gregoire, our whiskey connoisseur, is in the studio. Mark, what have you chosen for us today?

Marc Gregoire: 22:48

Today we brought in Wilderness Trail, Single Barrel Family Reserve Calf Strength Wheated Bourbon Okay, wow, that's a big name.

Marc Gregoire: 22:57

That is a big name. Okay, now, from Wilderness Trail's website they say Wilderness Trail offers single-barrel picks for retailers, bars or other groups to select an entire barrel and offer them for sale. This bottling is made with Wilderness Trail's Weeded Bourbon Mash Bill recipe, which is one of the highest ratios of wheat used in a bourbon made in Kentucky. It showcases the elegance of a classic weeded bourbon with maple syrup on the nose, butter cake on the palate and fresh baked bread on the finish. As is the nature of such bottlings, expect variations to occur among the barrels. Now, as we mentioned, this is from Wilderness Trail Distillery, whose distillery is in Danville, kentucky. It is straight bourbon. This one is age four years, eight months. It is 111.1 proof. That mash bill they're talking about was 64% corn, 20% wheat, 12% malted barley, and this goes for about $70. Wow.

Nathan Mumm: 23:56

Yeah, I'm liking this.

Marc Gregoire: 23:57

I about $70.

Nathan Mumm: 23:58

Wow, yeah, I'm liking this. I'm actually really, really liking this. I'm liking it too. It's got a nice complement for the sweetened it's got a very light bite, but then the bite continues to go. I know all those whiskey connoisseurs.

Mike Gorday: 24:09

It's got a very small alcohol burn there you go.

Nathan Mumm: 24:14

The feedback has been the whiskey people that listen to me when I say there's a bite. I'm totally wrong with that, so I'm just going to keep on telling about how much bite it has, that's because you have no palate.

Marc Gregoire: 24:27

So, gentlemen, is this whiskey smooth for you? Yeah, it's smooth for me, is it smooth for you no, okay.

Nathan Mumm: 24:32

No, then it's not, of course, not Okay. You know what? This is really good. I'd probably pay $70 for a bottle. I doubt it, maybe $50.

Marc Gregoire: 24:38

Yeah, okay, now please don't forget to like and subscribe. In addition, please comment and let us know if you have a whiskey you would like us to review.

Nathan Mumm: 24:45

All right. Well, with our first whiskey tasting completed, let's move on to our feature segment. Today we are talking to the technology expert that joins our show normally once a month, every probably five or six weeks Nick Espinosa. Nick's an expert in cybersecurity network infrastructure. He has consulted with clients ranging from small business to the Fortune 100 level. In 1998, at the age of 19, nick founded Windy City Networks, which was later acquired in 2015. And then he created Security Fanatics, where he is the chief security fanatic. Let's welcome Nick to the Comcast video stream to start our next segment.

Speaker 1: 25:20

Welcome to the segment we call Ask the Experts With our tech time radio expert, Nick Espinoza.

Nick Espinosa: 25:29

All right, Nick how are you doing? I'm good, I'm good and, for the record, I don't know why you're hating on North Korean programmers and animators. They're amazing. They are my password manager. My password manager is from North Korea and I might have been hacked like eight times, but it is so easy to use. I love those guys.

Mike Gorday: 25:47

I wasn't hating on anybody.

Nathan Mumm: 25:49

I wasn't either. What I was just finding I found it interesting is this guy was just kind of skimming around and finds all this work that's available.

Mike Gorday: 25:55

I think it's more interesting that he hangs out on their servers as a hobby.

Nathan Mumm: 26:00

To go and see what North Korea has.

Mike Gorday: 26:02

I think that's a more interesting story.

Nathan Mumm: 26:04

They probably don't have very much. Well, maybe they have security. I don't know how good their security is Okay, nick.

Nick Espinosa: 26:09

how good is their?

Nathan Mumm: 26:09

cybersecurity, are they pretty good on security there.

Nick Espinosa: 26:12

Yeah well, the six people in North Korea that actually have access to the Internet, you know, I mean it's a pretty small footprint to defend, but they are very good at hacking and they have run many different scams on South Korea and their other neighbors, basically stealing things, breaking into things, and their their cyber army, if you will, doesn't go usually for espionage, they go to steal money because, quite frankly, they got to feed their people. So it's a. It's a. North Korea is a very interesting case. It's a cottage industry.

Nathan Mumm: 26:41

That's what it is. All right, OK, now on April 15th, the Rootkit ransomware gang said it was planning to launch a cyber attack on DJI for supplying drones to Ukraine. With the conflict with Russia, with the conflict with Russia, what happened to these drones? And tell us what's going on regarding security cyber attacks in the Russia-Ukraine war?

Nick Espinosa: 27:03

Yeah, well, you got to love political hackers here, because, quite frankly, that's what it is, and I quote from their statement the day before they hit DJI, and I quote in our relentless pursuit of justice and digital warfare, we have set our sights on DJI, a Chinese technology company known for its unmanned aerial vehicles and drones. Our mission is clear to disrupt DJI's operations, as they have supplied drones to Ukraine for use in the ongoing conflict against Russia. The skies will tremble as we unleash our cyber arsenal on this complicit entity. Prepare for the storm DJI On this complicit entity. Prepare for the storm DJI.

Nick Espinosa: 27:36

And, sure enough, the next day, on April 16th, they basically said it took 10, 15 minutes to get in and they stole a whole bunch of stuff, a treasure trove of data, and so if you've got a DJI drone, heads up to you because they've got your order IDs, dates, times, your name, tracking numbers, pricing, your drone specs, contact information, payment methods, all that kind of stuff. So this is just another shot, you know, across the bow in the Ukraine-Russia conflict, where you've got essentially these politically motivated hackers in the dark web looking, you know, to support one group or the other. It's the same reason why we saw Klopp, which was based out of Russia, essentially fracture and become two different entities, as one supported Ukraine, the other obviously run by Russia. So this is just par for the course right now, and we know that basically, russia and their supporting cyber anything essentially continue to hit and disrupt operations in Ukraine and, quite frankly, the Ukraine cyber army is taking it to them as well. So this is just another chapter in the ongoing three-day war that is Vladimir Putin's ego.

Nathan Mumm: 28:38

Now I will tell you this Hackers are the only people I can trust nowadays. When they say they're going to hack something or they're going to do something unlike my Comcast support person that's going to come on out on a Tuesday and comes out on a Wednesday, unlike my Amazon delivery packages when hackers say they're going to do something, or if they got AT&T's data or they got this, they normally are telling the truth.

Mike Gorday: 28:57

They are like so high up. You appreciate their authenticity.

Nathan Mumm: 29:01

I do At least when they say they're going to do something, they follow through, not that that's a great thing.

Mike Gorday: 29:05

Well, we are. Yeah, they also have a good customer service.

Nick Espinosa: 29:12

They do that's so bad, they really do. It's better than Microsoft. Like, I'm sorry you're having a problem running your terror campaign, sir. How can we help, you know? But yeah, it's absolutely terrifying how good they are, because it's money, I mean, they make a ton of money off of us and it's a horrible ripoff.

Nathan Mumm: 29:25

All right, speaking about Microsoft, let's move on to our US government. All right, here we go. Since the US government data was exposed after Space Eyes data breach, what does the Miami-based firm do and why is it such a major concern?

Nick Espinosa: 29:41

Yeah, so this is a huge thing because they do geospatial intelligence, you know, for various entities, and the biggest concern here is, like you said, the sensitivity of who they work for. And we're talking, at least on the US side the Department of Justice, homeland Security, various branches of the US Armed Forces so think military on that one, including the actual National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, or NGA, as well. Not too many people have heard of that, but that's kind of important because obviously satellite and signal intelligence is critical to the defense of the United States as well as intelligence. And so the group that hit them is essentially Intel broker and they've been all over breachach Forum hitting a whole bunch. They hit Acuity, which was another federal contractor a while ago, but they said that it was pretty easy to access the SpaceEye systems, and Intel Broker also said they took highly sensitive documentation from these various groups, including SpaceEyes, and by virtue of that we're talking about all of that information.

Nick Espinosa: 30:40

But the media is also reporting things like full names, phone numbers, company names, job descriptions, location data on several different government officials, and so that could potentially lead to things like assassination attempts or extortion, like all these different kinds of things. So it is a complete and utter mess, and so Space Eyes obviously a beyond critical contractor, which is also the reason why the military is really spinning up things like the maturity model for cybersecurity or CMMC, because, quite frankly, they're really sick and tired of having these groups and foreign intelligence agencies eat their contractors lunch. So here we are, not good.

Mike Gorday: 31:16

What can we do?

Nick Espinosa: 31:19

Well these are the.

Nathan Mumm: 31:20

What can we do?

Nick Espinosa: 31:21

I do believe there's whiskey somewhere.

Mike Gorday: 31:24

That's my solution.

Nathan Mumm: 31:27

Essentially space sizes, who takes care of in monitoring the trajectory of all of the satellites that was was getting from all the information, so they kind of know when a satellite moves over here, whether it's a defense satellite or communication satellite.

Nick Espinosa: 31:42

Yeah, they're on the tracking side of this and they're feeding this telemetry and intelligence pretty much straight to all of the entities that I just mentioned in the federal government that are making sure that you know Chinese spy balloons or, in this case, satellites. You know, we know where they are and what they're doing, so we can adjust intelligence accordingly.

Nathan Mumm: 32:01

All right, Well, here we go. We teased this at the beginning. Nick has something scarier than TikTok, and we all know that Nick is not a big TikTok fan at all right, not so much. He can't stand them. Their security is horrible. Bytedance is not on his Christmas gifting companies that he gives a gift to. But Nick, what is now scarier than TikTok?

Nick Espinosa: 32:25

Well, and to be fair, if I was going to give a gift to TikTok's parent headquarters, it'd be a flaming bag of dog poop on their doorstep. Just FYI, Merry Christmas guys.

Mike Gorday: 32:36

That's low tech, nick. That's so low tech. That's right, old school sometimes his best school what are you gonna do?

Nick Espinosa: 32:41

I'm telling you anyway so today we're actually talking about timu timu you may have heard of timu yeah, they're all over the super bowl.

Nick Espinosa: 32:49

They were like on every commercial and that's how they, that's how they got really honestly to prominence. They got these flashy commercials everybody knows them dirt cheap stuff. But here the thing because it looks like they're going to be on the next chopping block in Congress to be banned, because right now, as you know, they voted overwhelmingly bipartisan and when do you see that for TikTok? So here's what happened In a letter to President Biden about a week ago or so, senator Tom Cotton he's a Republican from Arkansas basically reiterated some of the concerns about Timu.

Nick Espinosa: 33:19

I mean, they have basically a twofold issue here that the senator brought up in his letter. First things first, that Timu is an app that is a quote pipeline of dumped counterfeit and slave labor products from China end quote and that is essentially talking about the Uyghur slave labor. The Uyghurs are obviously the most surveilled people on the planet, under tight control, pretty much designated as terrorists and slave labor by the Chinese government. It's a total humanitarian crisis and they're making a lot of these products that we Americans and the rest of the world are buying. The other side of this is that Teemu is a quote gathering massive quantities of data, quantities of Americans' personal data, and obviously, that makes it more dangerous than potentially TikTok and for the record, tiktok also, I'm sorry, timu also has the ability to access everything on your phone, quote unquote according to the senator, and like TikTok, it's been reverse engineered and sure enough, it's evading permissions, like if you have that iPhone and you're looking at the privacy you know privacy settings in the app store and on your phone.

Nick Espinosa: 34:18

These apps are attempting to evade this. They're also avoiding responsibility for slave labor, because we actually have an act here called the Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act, but it essentially means that anything that they're producing should be looked at. But because Timu's products tend to be under $800 in value, oftentimes US Customs is not looking at them or scrutinizing them in that way, so they're getting around this. On top of it, timu's parent company, pinduoduo, basically was kicked out of Google's Play Store with their other apps because they were literally containing malware in their apps. And so here we are. It's absolutely nuts, not to mention the fact Pinduoduo also said that they made $400 million of income from the Chinese government directly in 2023. So you can do the math on that. I mean, this is a complete mess and everybody's using it and at this point, I don't think many people care, but here I am ringing the bell again.

Nathan Mumm: 35:15

All right, last but not least, let's go through here.

Mike Gorday: 35:18

You don't have a comment about that.

Nathan Mumm: 35:21

No, I didn't really like their Super Bowl ads, so I'm kind of glad that they're struggling a little bit.

Mike Gorday: 35:26

I thought you might add them to your favorite list. No, I don't buy anything. I have not bought anything off them at all, so they can suffer Me neither.

Nick Espinosa: 35:43

Last on the docketcket. What's happening with world check, a screening database used for the quote know your customer, yeah, yeah, this was absolutely crazy too. I mean you want to talk about governmental data breaches. It's absolutely nuts. But basically attackers calling themselves ghost r said that they stole over 5 million about 5.3 million records from world checks screening database back in March and they're threatening to publish this data Now.

Nick Espinosa: 35:59

As you mentioned, know your Customer or KYC, essentially allows customers or companies excuse me to determine if prospective customers are high risk or potential criminals, such as people with links to money laundering or under government sanctions and all of that. So you don't want to do business with the warlord. A. Know your customer service is one of those things, and WorldCheck is one of the biggest.

Nick Espinosa: 36:20

Now, a portion of the stolen data that was seen by publications essentially and this was stolen by a third party that was using WorldCheck, not WorldCheck directly contained records on thousands of people, and this is again just the sample of thousands of people, which means it's a huge data set. But we're talking about government officials, current and former diplomats, private companies, who leaders are considered politically exposed people. You know, think people like that are at higher risk for involvement in corruption or bribery at the governmental level, not to mention people that are potentially linked to organized crime, terrorism, all this kind of stuff. So this is a huge, huge list of essentially who's who of of of you know Panama paper, but but for bad people.

Nathan Mumm: 37:03

It's the who's who that you get when you graduate. You remember you. You pay that 20 bucks to be on the who's who's list and you get it. This is so you want to know all the drug dealers. You can just get your list of drug dealers your your money launderers.

Mike Gorday: 37:15

You know, you know too many things about this stuff, dude.

Nathan Mumm: 37:18

What's that? I just know what Nick tells me. I don't know any of that All right.

Nick Espinosa: 37:23

We're going to find Nathan on the list I promise, I mean I'd be interested. I would like to see where.

Mike Gorday: 37:28

I come up. I'd like to see where I come up on that list.

Nathan Mumm: 37:32

All right the show. How can people contact uh you? How can they get connected with you outside of our show?

Nick Espinosa: 37:39

yeah, yeah. So, uh, obviously, feel free to connect to me on like linkedin or facebook or twitter I'm not using the other word because, honestly, hey, you can get xtv buddy, it's just gonna come on out, just just you wait it is what it is, but yeah, so feel free to feel free to connect to me at nick aesp or nick espinoza, wherever I am, come say hi, I love hanging out.

Nathan Mumm: 37:59

All right. Thank you so much for being on the show.

Nick Espinosa: 38:01

Bye Nick.

Nathan Mumm: 38:01

Thanks guys, All right Well that ends our Ask the Expert with Nick Espinoza. Up next we have this Week in Technology.

Speaker 9: 38:17

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Speaker 1: 38:49

And now let's look back at this week in technology.

Nathan Mumm: 38:55

All right, we go back to April 20th 1998. You ever remember the phrase plug and pray? Yes, all right, we go back to April 20th 1998. You ever remember the phrase plug and pray? Yes, All right. Well, during the Comdex spring of 98 and Windows World shows in Chicago, a public demonstration of the soon-to-be-released Windows 98 goes awry when Bill Gates' assistant causes the operating system to crash after plugging in a scanner, instead of showing the plug-and-play capabilities that they were trying to demonstrate, a blue screen of death is visible by the entire audience, which immediately erupts in laughter. After several seconds, bill Gates famously responded that must be why we're not shipping Windows 98 yet. Ironically, though, the assistant, chris Caposella, moved up the executive ranks at Microsoft to executive vice president and chief marketing officer. This is an example of failing forward.

Nathan Mumm: 39:48

Is that the Peter principle.

Mike Gorday: 39:49

Kind of Kind of is yeah right?

Nathan Mumm: 39:51

Well, that was this Week in Technology. If you ever wanted to watch some Tech Time history, with over 200 weekly broadcasts spanning four plus years, we have our video, podcast and blog information. You can always visit us at techtimeradiocom, See all the updates on our whiskey that Mr Gregoire puts on there and watch our older shows. We're going to take a commercial break, but when we return we have the Mark Mumble Whiskey Review. See you after this.

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Speaker 1: 40:50

The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's Whiskey Mumble.

Marc Gregoire: 40:59

All right, so excited about April 23rd.

Nathan Mumm: 41:06

I may know what this is today? All right, I have not looked at this, it was in my Elon Musk thing. Today is National Take a Chance Day, is that correct? What this is today? All right, I have not looked at this, it was in my Elon Musk thing, all right, today is National Take a Chance Day, is that correct?

Speaker 6: 41:15

If you change your mind, take a chance on the first day.

Nathan Mumm: 41:19

Is that what it is?

Mike Gorday: 41:20

Oh.

Nathan Mumm: 41:20

I got it.

Odi: 41:22

Take a chance on me.

Mike Gorday: 41:23

You spent a lot of time on ChatGPT for that. No, no, no, no, no. What what?

Nathan Mumm: 41:27

No because it said in the Elon Musk article that why not just wake up one morning and take a chance? And they said today was National Chance Day.

Marc Gregoire: 41:33

There you go. Okay, love it and love the ABBA there. I like that, that's good, that's great. Thank you, odie.

Mike Gorday: 41:40

So what this day is about? What, pardon, I said welcome to the 70s.

Nathan Mumm: 41:45

Hell. I have the 70s. That's got some great country music.

Marc Gregoire: 41:48

How about never goes out of?

Nathan Mumm: 41:49

style. That wasn't country.

Marc Gregoire: 41:50

That's right. So today is about sticking your neck out and going for it, mike, okay, you've heard it said the biggest risk is not taking one. Still taking chances just don't come naturally for many people. If you fall in that category of risk averse, today you may find some inspiration to finally take that leap and go for your dreams you have been hesitant to pursue.

Odi: 42:12

You hearing that, mike? Oh wow.

Mike Gorday: 42:13

Maybe I should find something to take a chance at.

Nathan Mumm: 42:17

I don't know, that sounds good. Okay, all right.

Marc Gregoire: 42:20

All right, okay, quit tech time. Move to the islands. I'm not sure that works.

Nathan Mumm: 42:25

Retire you do that in like a second. That's my goal in life is to retire, and hang out, just beach bum, the rest of my life. Would you sleep on the beach as well as?

Mike Gorday: 42:37

Or would you want to have a little shack ass?

Odi: 42:39

No.

Mike Gorday: 42:39

I want a little shack, oh, you want to do van life or anything like that. No, I just you know.

Nathan Mumm: 42:45

Just a little shack with a hammock, a little shack with a hammock would be awesome.

Mike Gorday: 42:49

Okay, there you go. All right, it's a beach bum, Our friend Greg McNabb.

Marc Gregoire: 42:52

he retired, but he became like a ski bunny.

Nathan Mumm: 42:54

Yeah, he does Now. He just mixes his hands into everything.

Mike Gorday: 42:59

Did he take a chance on that? Yeah he probably did.

Nathan Mumm: 43:02

There you go.

Marc Gregoire: 43:03

All right, let's talk about Wilderness Trail. Okay, so co-founders Shane Baker and Pat Heist in the late 90s were in a rock band together called Fulcrum and quickly realized they needed to chase another dream. So they took a chance. In 2006, their journey began with a passion for creating whiskey, so in 2020, wilderness Trail also partnered with Wave Digital Assets, an SEC-registered investment advisory firm, to launch a whiskey barrel fund that may tokenize its shares in the future. They took a chance on that and they have sourced up to 2,700 barrels from the distillery since that data launch to capture value appreciation associated with that aging Kentucky whiskey.

Mike Gorday: 43:46

Mark, do you come up with that wording all by yourself?

Marc Gregoire: 43:50

Yeah, he's right, there's a little chat.

Nathan Mumm: 43:53

GPT.

Mike Gorday: 43:54

No, that was you know I'm like thinking Mark has a better command of his little stylings than Nathan, who uses chat GPT to come up with this one. Well, that's all right.

Marc Gregoire: 44:05

Okay, now, this particular whiskey we're drinking is a classic weeded bourbon. Particular whiskey we're drinking is a classic weeded bourbon. Now, I am surprised it's only four years, eight months, as it tastes more mature and refined. For my palate, this is an easy drinker, a delicious couch pour. For me, this is almost a dessert bourbon, except it has a nice fruit and wood notes. That helps round it out. And I brought this in because I'm thinking Nathan and Mike Sweet Tooth will be liking this drink.

Nathan Mumm: 44:30

Oh, I'm loving this.

Marc Gregoire: 44:32

Mike just really loves something, so I brought in the sweetest one I could find.

Mike Gorday: 44:36

I'm really enjoying this yeah, this is a really nice tasting, sweet finish. It's got a?

Marc Gregoire: 44:45

yeah, yeah, it's good, you like those weeders. It's smooth, it is, it's smooth.

Nathan Mumm: 44:50

Not very much bite. There you go. All right, mark, and how much does this cost?

Marc Gregoire: 44:55

$75.

Nathan Mumm: 44:55

$70. $70. Okay, what's the after or secondary Mark?

Marc Gregoire: 44:58

There's no secondary on this one.

Nathan Mumm: 44:59

Okay, all right. Well, thanks for that. Mumble Whiskey and technology what a great pairing, also known as Reese's Peanut Butter.

Mike Gorday: 45:09

Puffs. See, that's what I'm saying. What's that? Mark doesn't use ChatGPT. He comes up with better stuff. Well, okay. That wasn't ChatGPT they didn't do that, all right, that was just pure Nathan there. Yeah, that's just pure Nathan.

Nathan Mumm: 45:20

Let's prepare for our Technology Fail of the Week, brought to you by Elite Executive Services. We are out of time. Congratulations, congratulations. You're a failure.

Speaker 9: 45:30

Oh.

Marc Gregoire: 45:32

I failed. Did I yes, did I yes, did I.

Nathan Mumm: 45:38

Yes.

Nathan Mumm: 45:39

All right, well, our technology fail goes to kind of more of a technology mogul we're going to be talking about. Just think of you if you decided that you got a brand new job two months ago and working in advertising at Tesla. Well, if that was you and one of the other 39 people, essentially you were just laid off. Advertising is out at Tesla. Just months after it started, tesla has eliminated 40 marketing and advertising staff. The move is part of the ongoing job cuts announced by CEO Elon Musk. Last week. The company cut its entire US growth content team. In its recent round of layoffs, the team included that group of 40. Tesla still has a small group, though, of marketing employees based in Europe, but Elon Musk responded to a post on X that said that the laid-off staff could have done a better job with their ads. Quote-unquote the ads were too generic. Could have been any car, musk wrote in response.

Mike Gorday: 46:29

I think Musk just needs to do everything himself. I think so.

Nathan Mumm: 46:33

Because he obviously knows how it works, how to marketing. Well, what you do is you just get on Twitter and you announce you're doing something, and then everybody picks it up as news and you got a brand new TV company. All right, many impacted Tesla workers were notified within hours of the internal email that their roles had been eliminated. The layoff notice continued late into the week and then on Friday this is the best part Recruiters this is always interesting.

Nathan Mumm: 46:56

Recruiters go and they always tell you you know, this is really tough, we're really sorry this happened to you, because I've been fired before, so you know it's really sorry this happened to you. I don't know what's going on. And then, all of a sudden, on Friday, all of those recruiters were laid off also. All right. Well, what is going to happen to the most historic electric car company? Will it survive without any traditional advertising? Instead of relying on the word of mouth and posts from Elon Musk, he promotes his company's products to his 101.5 million followers on X, formerly known as Twitter. All right, well, there you go. That is our technology fail of the week.

Nathan Mumm: 47:41

We're going to head now into our Mike's Mesmerizing Moment, brought to us by Story Coffee. This is Mike's Mesmerizing Moment presented by Story Coffee. Visit storycoffeecom. All right, mike, let's talk about technology replacing items like driving.

Mike Gorday: 48:04

What other tasks do you think or what do you think is going to happen soon regarding where we think technology can replace us? You know the whole thing behind technology is to do that. It's supposed to make our lives easier.

Nathan Mumm: 48:16

Yeah, we're going to get a cell phone that would allow us to escape work. Who needs to drive?

Mike Gorday: 48:20

Right, if you can have the car, do it for you. Okay, you know who needs to. Yeah, you got a personal computer with you all day long.

Nathan Mumm: 48:28

Yeah, you know, I was in school and I was told I would never ever have access to a calculator. That teacher said that you better learn math because you're never going to be able to just have a calculator in your back pocket.

Mike Gorday: 48:39

That's why you're a technologist. I don't have one, I have two of those.

Nathan Mumm: 48:46

That's why you're a technologist, because you remember those things.

Mike Gorday: 48:50

I do. I was like looking at them know, I don't know, I don't know what we're. We're trying to do everything we can with technology, to do everything we can envision right, we're trying to develop. Okay, Even time travel. We're trying to develop these concepts for time travel. We're trying to develop not aging right. We're trying to figure that out. We're trying to do all these things with technology that I don't.

Speaker 5: 49:22

Makes our life easier.

Mike Gorday: 49:23

I think it's just anything you can think of that will help your life be better. Or, quote unquote help your life be easier, because we want that, we want stuff to be done for us, we, you know, I don't know.

Nathan Mumm: 49:37

So so, as humans, by default we want to be the laziest things possible.

Mike Gorday: 49:41

Yeah, I often say that that the movie Wally portrays the American, the, the human dynamic quite well, because if you watch that movie, you see what we could become in our dependency on technology that does everything for us. And this recent case that prompted this question is the same thing. You're driving home on the freeway in a car, you know. You're driving home on the freeway in a car that has autopilot technology and you think, well, crap, I'll just get on my cell phone and start scrolling through X.

Mike Gorday: 50:22

Yeah, taking a look at what's I'm sure Elon was all right with that.

Nathan Mumm: 50:26

Well, until now.

Mike Gorday: 50:28

Well, I don't know. We'll see if it comes and bites Tesla, but I'm sure it's going to hurt. It's the interaction. It's that quote from Ian Malcolm in Jurassic Park Life finds a way. No no, no. You do all these things because you could, but you don't ask if you should.

Marc Gregoire: 50:51

Okay, that's a good quote too.

Nathan Mumm: 50:54

All right, now let's get ready for our Nathan Nugget. This is your Nugget of the Week, all right. I had somebody this last week come and visit me that sent over $10,000 in Bitcoin to scammers. Now, this person that came to us was very distraught. Now, this person that came to us was very distraught. Essentially, she said that she had a three-man team that was helping her save money because Russia and other governments were trying to steal her money. Now, supposedly, she had access to a representative of her bank. She had access to a US marshal and a technical expert all at the same time. All at the same time.

Speaker 5: 51:27

It's just amazing.

Nathan Mumm: 51:29

That's a lot of attention For her personal bank, and so what they would do is they would call her up, and when one person's on the line and they'd ask her a bunch of questions and she'd get flustered, then another one would call them up, and now this was the US Marshal. Blah, blah, blah.

Mike Gorday: 51:41

Yeah, they're using-.

Speaker 5: 51:42

And another one.

Nathan Mumm: 51:42

So she's just getting scrambled and scrambled and so she ends up going to a redemption place to buy Bitcoin and then gives her access to the Bitcoin password. They steal all the money from her. There's nothing they can do. You know that $12.5 billion in the internet crimes last year happened specifically like targets like this.

Mike Gorday: 52:05

Yeah, that's why I like the Beekeeper movie.

Nathan Mumm: 52:06

The Beekeeper movie is a good movie. If you want to watch about cyber criminal games, Beekeeper was a very good movie. If you want to watch about cyber criminal games, Beekeeper was a very good movie. I saw it. It makes it kind of look a little Hollywood stylized.

Mike Gorday: 52:17

It's pretty Hollywood style, but I think that's a good way of dealing with this.

Nathan Mumm: 52:21

So have you heard of the comedian YouTuber called Kit Boga? No, I don't know this guy. Okay, so he is a popular scam baiter who hides behind characters and wastes the scammer's time when they call up. Now I have people call me up and sometimes I keep these people on for 10, 20 minutes. Have I got other stuff that I do?

Mike Gorday: 52:37

I do that too, I have been known to just mess with somebody, and I did it once for three days with somebody who was texting and emailing me Yep, yep and trying to get money out of me, and I kept them on the line for three days.

Nathan Mumm: 52:53

You know what His idea is, that he thinks that that's a good idea because that can help not have them essentially going out and hit other people that may actually fall for the scams. Now he's got a whole CIA agent outfit. He talks in an elderly woman's voice named Edna. He's all over YouTube and Twitch. You can go and take care of him and he is funny as can be. He actually, then, is very technical on the back end and he's actually gotten into their system. Sometimes, when they share and try to access his system, and he'll actually end up deleting photos, finding out information from them. So, not a lot of people that I would say that are really good at this, but I would say Kit Boga. He's also known on Twitch as Kit. You should take a look at him. Watch him for a bit. That's my Nathan nugget, because I think it's a pretty cool time to.

Mike Gorday: 53:43

Wow, you have a lot of information on this guy that you wanted to talk about. He's really good, he's really good.

Nathan Mumm: 53:48

So just watch him and you're going to love him. All right, now let's move to our pick of the day.

Speaker 1: 53:56

Whiskey tasty. And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings. Let's see what bubbles to the top.

Marc Gregoire: 54:02

All right. What do we have here? What you are sipping on today is Wilderness Trail single barrel family reserve cast strength weeded bourbon. It is a straight bourbon. Four years eight months, 111.1 proof $70.

Nathan Mumm: 54:14

All right, thumbs up or thumbs down, oh.

Mike Gorday: 54:17

I give it a thumbs up. Yeah, absolutely, it's excellent Thumbs up.

Nathan Mumm: 54:20

What about?

Marc Gregoire: 54:20

you, mark. Oh yeah, this is thumbs up for me too. This is a delicious sweet bourbon.

Nathan Mumm: 54:25

What shelf is it on at your house? The bottom, it's a bottom shelf. Yeah, that's not even one of your top shelf ones.

Mike Gorday: 54:31

No.

Nathan Mumm: 54:31

Oh wow, this would be a top shelf in my house.

Mike Gorday: 54:34

Well, yeah, that's because your top shelf equals his bottom shelf. That's about right, okay.

Nathan Mumm: 54:40

Well, we want to say to everybody thank you for joining our show. We would love to see you back here next week. Remember, like and subscribe. And the science of tomorrow starts with the technology of today.

Speaker 1: 54:48

See you next week.

Speaker 1: 54:51

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