199: Your "PRIVATE" browsing history will vanish from Google, AI Quirks, and China is looking into the Future with Flying Cars, and the CEO Rick Voight of Vivid-Pix joins the show. Why artificial intelligence makes stuff up. | Air Date: 4/1 - 4/7/24

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Episode 199:This week on TechTime with Nathan Mumm®, we bring you a whirlwind of headlines that'll leave your circuits buzzing. It seems Google has had a changed heart, or maybe it was the relentless class action lawsuit, but the search giant has finally bowed to pressure! Google has agreed to delete billions of Incognito mode data records. Yes, you heard it right. Your "PRIVATE" browsing history will vanish into the digital abyss. So, next time you're in Incognito mode, rest assured—your secrets are safe, or are they?

Join us weekly on TechTime Radio with Nathan Mumm, the show that makes you go "Humm" Technology news of the week for March 31st - April 6th 2024

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• Google agrees to delete billions of Incognito mode data records
• Why does AI Make Stuff Up?
• AI photos of "What it Might Have Been Like in the Future"
• European flying car technology sold to China

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Rossville Union Single Barrel Cask Strength Rye (Binny's Handpicked #159 2021 Selection) | 115 Proof | $65 / 750ml
 
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Today's Guest: Chief Executive Officer of Vivid-Pix, Rick Voight
 
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March 28, 1935 First Gyroscope Controlled Rocket Launch

Robert Goddard, considered the father of modern rocketry, successfully launches the first gyroscope controlled rocket.

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Marc Gregoire's review of this week's whiskey

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This week’s “Technology Fail” comes to us from AT&T has finally confirmed it has been impacted by a data breach affecting 73 million current and former customers.

--- [Mike's Mesmerizing Moment brought to us by StoriCoffee®]
Question: Do photos help us with our memory as we age?

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Truth Social: Trump's DJT stock plummets days after going public

--- [Pick of the Day Whiskey Review]
Rossville Union Single Barrel Cask Strength Rye (Binny's Handpicked #159 2021 Selection) | 115 Proof | $65 / 750ml 

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Broadcasting across the nation, from the East Coast to the West, keeping you up to date on technology while enjoying a little whiskey on the side, with leading edge topics, along with special guests to navigate technology in a segmented, stylized radio program. The information that will make you go mmmm. Pull up a seat, raise a glass with our hosts as we spend the next hour talking about technology for the common person. Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm.

Nathan Mumm: 0:31

Welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm. The show that makes you go technology news of the week. The show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mumm, your host and a technologist with over 30 years of technology expertise. It says I'm getting older and older and our co-host here, mike Gorday, is in the studio today. Mike's an award-winning author and human behavior expert. Now today we are live streaming our show on five of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, twitchtv X, facebook and LinkedIn. We encourage you to visit us online at techtimeradiocom and become a Patreon supporter at patreoncom. Forward slash techtimeradio. We are friends from different backgrounds, but we bring the best technology show possible weekly for our family, friends and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have ODR producer at the control panel today. Welcome everyone. Let's start today's show.

Speaker 1: 1:36

Now on today's show.

Nathan Mumm: 1:40

All right. Today on Tech Time with Nathan Moen, we bring you a whirlwind of headlines that leave your circuits buzzing. It seems Google has had a change of heart, or maybe it was the relentless class action lawsuit, but the search giant has finally bowed to the pressure. Google has agreed to delete billions of incognito mode data records. Yes, you heard it right here your private browsing history will now actually vanish into the digital abyss. So next time you're in incognito mode, rest assured your secrets are safe or are they? Are they?

Mike Gorday: 2:12

Well, we'll talk about that. We've talked about that before.

Nathan Mumm: 2:14

Yeah, we're going to talk about that again today. A new question is being asked why does artificial intelligence make stuff up? Picture a seven-year-old caught red-handed with cookie crumbs on their face, spinning tales about the invisible cookie monster. Well, ai isn't much different. It can create stories, fabricate facts and weave intricate narratives into information that we believe is real. But fear not, we're digging into what has to be done to make this change. Then, have you ever wondered what life might be like if your hoverboards were real? Or what if you zipped around in flying cars? China is looking into the future with flying cars, specifically that transform. Now, nothing is better. If you're going to have a car that moves into a flying vehicle, nothing's better than having a little bit of a transformer with it at the same time, right?

Mike Gorday: 3:01

I don't think it's the same thing you're thinking of.

Nathan Mumm: 3:03

Well, it's not quite. No, that's correct.

Nathan Mumm: 3:05

Okay and we have our guests that will show us how to save those memories of pictures, slides and Polaroids, as we have our guest, the CEO of Vivid Picks, joining the show today. In addition, of course, we have our standard features, including Mike's mesmerizing moment, the technology fail of the week, a possible Nathan Nugget and, of course, our pick of the day whiskey tasting to see if our selected whiskey pick of the day gets zero, one or two thumbs up by the end of the show. Now, though, it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology.

Speaker 1: 3:36

Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm: 3:40

All right. Story number one Google agrees to delete billions of incognito mode data records. The tech giant will have to wipe private browsing data after a class action lawsuit. Let's go to David Larson with more on the story.

Speaker 2: 3:54

Google has promised to delete billions of browsing activity records in its incognito mode after a class action lawsuit was filed in a California federal court. After a class-action lawsuit was filed in a California federal court, google tracks and collects consumer browsing history and other web activity data, no matter what safeguards consumers undertake to protect their data privacy. Indeed, even when Google users launch a web browser with private browsing mode activated, as Google recommends to users wishing to browse the web privately, google nevertheless tracks the user's browsing data and other identifying information. How safe is incognito mode on the Chrome browser? Mike and Nathan, I am sure you will cover this again for all the listeners Back to you in the studio.

Nathan Mumm: 4:41

All right, incognito mode.

Mike Gorday: 4:42

Incognito means from your boss.

Nathan Mumm: 4:46

Yeah, that means that essentially it doesn't save your history of what you're browsing, but it doesn't mean it doesn't track it. It just doesn't save it in your browser. So essentially, if you're doing something like watch the NCAA tournaments and you don't want anybody to know about it, you do it in incognito mode, so that way when you close the browser.

Mike Gorday: 5:03

This happens every year, every year at this time, at this time.

Nathan Mumm: 5:06

Yeah, that's exactly correct. But under the settlement, google said now it will delete billions of data records and also provide greater transparency of the data it collects, letting users know that what data is collected each time incognito mode is launched. So, essentially, they're going to come up with a warning window. You're going to launch incognito. I Essentially they're going to come up with a warning window. You're going to launch incognito. I've already seen this. It comes on up and says we're going to track this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this.

Mike Gorday: 5:29

Hit OK to proceed If you choose not to. Really, they're not doing anything but putting a warning label.

Nathan Mumm: 5:34

That's all they're doing. That's awesome.

Nathan Mumm: 5:49

So they announced the big launch of incognito mode. That was supposed to have private browsing, but essentially it's been displaying information. People still can have cookie information that they gather from it. Where you go all the information? And Google has done this for the last five years, when they essentially released this as a brand new added feature. Now every browser adapted the same type of deal where they have privacy mode or private mode. There are a couple of browsers that actually don't track the information that's there, but Google did never, said- that we know of.

Nathan Mumm: 6:06

Yeah, but Google never said that they weren't going to track it, and of course, they are. The plaintiff asked for $5 billion in damages, but the settlement holds no payment from Google. Individual users, though, can instead pursue damages by filing complaints against Google in the United States courts. Fifty people have already pursued this process. Are you on that process? No, because I already know. They already showed me. So not only does Google capture your data, but Comcast, who I use for my internet provider

Mike Gorday: 6:33

they know what I do too.

Nathan Mumm: 6:34

So Comcast is collecting my data because I'm using their pipe, and then Google collects my data because I'm using their browser to do it. Again, we've said this. Do not do anything on your computer or the internet you don't want someone to know about, because everything is tracked.

Mike Gorday: 6:48

Well, they told me something I didn't know the other day when I was in their Xfinity store is that Xfinity has their own sidewalk feature.

Nathan Mumm: 6:55

Oh, they do. Yes, I did not know that, so they have one just like the Amazon. That's what they said. Oh, I bet you they do. I should look into that a little bit more. So essentially, you're sharing the internet out to your neighbor.

Mike Gorday: 7:04

Yeah, because I've been having all these spikes in my data usage and have been going over my data plan. Oh, and so they were like yeah, this is really weird. Look at this, look at this. Did you turn off your sidewalk? I'm like I didn't know I had sidewalk on Xfinity, so did they reimburse?

Nathan Mumm: 7:21

you, or did you still have to pay the bill? Oh, I fixed it. Okay, there you go, all right. Well, a Google spokesman said in a statement we are pleased to settle this lawsuit, which we always believed was meritless. We never associate data with users when they use incognito mode Liars. We are happy to delete old technical data that was never associated with an individual and was never used in any form of personalization. So do you use incognito mode, mike?

Mike Gorday: 7:44

No, I don't bother.

Nathan Mumm: 7:46

Neither do I.

Mike Gorday: 7:46

I mean, I'm not really on there doing anything I shouldn't be doing, and there's nobody around to check on me.

Nathan Mumm: 7:51

anyway, so there you go, that makes sense, all right. Story number two Are you excited about this one?

Mike Gorday: 7:57

Oh, I'm always excited about dashing AI.

Mike Gorday: 8:00

Okay, let's see what we got going on next year. You know we've talked about how AI makes up stuff. It will give false information quite a bit. The question is, is there anything that's being done about it? Okay, so there's an important distinction between using AI to generate content and answering questions, one of the problems that we've had seen in the past. Less than two years ago, cognitive and computer scientist Douglas Hofstadter demonstrated how easy it was to make AI hallucinate. I don't know why they use that term. When he asked a nonsensical question in OpenAI's chat, gpt3, replied the Golden Gate Bridge was transported for the second time across Egypt in October of 2016.

Marc Gregoire: 8:48

Hmm.

Nathan Mumm: 8:50

Now, that doesn't sound like that really happened. No, no.

Mike Gorday: 8:54

But we've seen this happen over and over again, yep. So chat GPT 3.5.

Nathan Mumm: 9:00

Yeah.

Mike Gorday: 9:01

Which powers the free version of chat GPT.

Nathan Mumm: 9:03

That's like their low end, that's like the low hanging fruit one. Yeah, okay.

Mike Gorday: 9:07

Now that tells you there is no record or historical event indicating that the Golden Bridge, which is located in San Francisco, california, usa, was ever transported across Egypt. So somebody fixed that. Okay, it's a good example of how quickly these AI models evolve, but for all improvements on this front, you still need to be on guard. Okay, it's a good example of how quickly these AI models evolve, but for all improvements on this front, you still need to be on guard. See, this is where I start having these big issues. Yeah, is because humans interact with this and they're going to be getting false information somewhere. Okay, ai chatbots continue to and I don't like the term hallucinate, because that implies something a little different than lying. So AI chatbots continue to provide false information and present material that isn't real, even if the errors are less glaringly obvious. Okay, chatbots confidently deliver this information as fact, which has already generated plenty of challenges for tech companies and headlines for media outlets. This is kind of like psychopaths do.

Mike Gorday: 10:11

Okay, taking a more nuanced view, hallucinations are actually both a feature and a bug, and there's an important distinction between using an AI model as a content generator and tapping into it to answer questions. Using an AI model as a content generator and tapping into it to answer questions. It's a good reminder that generative AI is still very much a work in progress, even as companies like Google and Adobe showcase tools that can generate games and music to demonstrate where the technology is headed. This article asks what an AI hallucination is and their definition is. The generative AI model hallucinates when it delivers false or misleading information. Again, I have a lot of problems with this because it implies more going on. A hallucination is not what's going on here.

Nathan Mumm: 11:01

This is just providing false information. I guess this is now the official term for when.

Mike Gorday: 11:06

AI makes a mistake? They don't want to call it lying. This is a misapplication of psychological terms and this is like the standard now for AI.

Nathan Mumm: 11:15

This is what they call. Anything that's incorrect it's not that it was they had the wrong data or they had the wrong library.

Mike Gorday: 11:21

They need to stop because that implies other things going on, because when you hallucinate, you yourself are experiencing an unreal situation. Okay, I don't think that really applies to this. Okay, frequently cited example comes from February 2023, when the Google Bard chatbot, now called Gemini was asked about.

Nathan Mumm: 11:45

Yeah, they had to rename it because they were so bad with BARD and they had so many issues. This specific issue here got national press.

Mike Gorday: 11:51

Oh, when it was asked about NASA's.

Nathan Mumm: 11:53

James.

Mike Gorday: 11:53

Webb Space Telescope.

Nathan Mumm: 11:55

Yeah.

Mike Gorday: 11:57

Yeah, it incorrectly said that the telescope took the first pictures of an exoplanet outside of our solar system, which was not correct.

Nathan Mumm: 12:08

That wasn't a part of their demo. That's what they asked during their launch demo. Google had not done their research on what they were looking for and, just off the cuff, they decided to do that.

Mike Gorday: 12:18

I have major problems with people rolling out these things and letting the public work through the bugs.

Nathan Mumm: 12:25

Okay, that's how video game companies do it, isn't it?

Mike Gorday: 12:29

I have a problem with that too. Okay, all right, so let's unpack this for a little bit. For example, an AI model that can generate text and was trained on. Wikipedia's purpose is to generate text that looks and sounds like the post we already see on the platform. In other words, the model is trained to generate data that is statistically indistinguishable from the training data or that has the same type of generic characteristics. There's no requirement for that to be true. Can you prevent these falsehoods I'm not going to say hallucinations Okay, can you? I don't think so. No, they cannot be stopped. Okay, but their advice is to manage them Is to hire people.

Mike Gorday: 13:17

One way is to ensure the training data is of high quality and adequate breadth and the model is tested at various checkpoints. Okay, so they're saying that wherever the chatbot is drawing its information from it better be good information?

Nathan Mumm: 13:30

Or they want to put in some legislation to have people make sure that it works. This is so dumb.

Mike Gorday: 13:37

So you're worried about losing jobs.

Nathan Mumm: 13:38

You can have more jobs to make sure that the AI stuff that they do is correct.

Mike Gorday: 13:41

Okay, all right, the AI stuff that they do is correct. Okay, all right, let's turn that piece of schmutz into something useful. Okay, ai's chat GPT-4 can browse the internet if it doesn't know the answer to a query and will cite where the information came from. Yep. Microsoft also can search the web for relevant content to inform its responses. Copilot also includes links to websites where users can verify responses. Okay, but as human beings we don't do that.

Nathan Mumm: 14:15

Well, I don't know, I do.

Mike Gorday: 14:16

So when I use Copilot Most people don't Most people-.

Nathan Mumm: 14:19

I do click on it and say, okay, is this Our brains are heuristically geared.

Mike Gorday: 14:27

Unless we have some reason to check out the sources, we're not going to the normal dude that's sitting there and he wants to query something like does my incognito mode keep my information safe? And it goes. Yeah, sure, no problem, it's designed that way, Right? He's not going to go and check the sources for that.

Marc Gregoire: 14:49

He's going to be like yeah that's great.

Speaker 2: 14:51

See, I knew it. I hope, I hope.

Mike Gorday: 14:53

And then when the law enforcement comes along for doing something dumb like what.

Mike Gorday: 15:01

I said it was protected. Will we ever get to a point where AI doesn't have these problems? Probably not. Okay, researchers are still working to mitigate them, which is better training data, improved algorithms and fact-checking mechanisms In the short term. The technology companies behind generative AI tools have added disclaimers about these problems. Human oversight is another one which you were talking about a minute ago, but it may also come down to government policies to ensure guardrails are in place. So, yes, I think we need that stuff.

Nathan Mumm: 15:37

Okay.

Mike Gorday: 15:37

Or we just shouldn't be using this right now.

Nathan Mumm: 15:40

All right.

Mike Gorday: 15:40

But you know, progress is progress.

Nathan Mumm: 15:42

All right, let's go to story number three here. All right, odie, you know progress is progress. All right, let's go to story number three here. All right, odie, you had something on last night's production show that you would like to talk about. Let's talk about this.

Ody: 15:51

Yeah, as you know, anyone living with an incurable illness faces the agony of fearing that they will miss out on future precious moments with their family. Yep family. But, for example, from attending a child's wedding to taking a special holiday.

Ody: 16:11

10 people living with secondary breast cancer have been given a glimpse into the future that they may not get to see. Photographer Julian Edelstein took photographs of these 10 people and used AI to make up the Gallery of Hope at London's Saatchi Gallery. So essentially, all these 10 people got to choose a moment that they may not see in the future and, combined with the photographer and AI, they got to see an image of what that could look like that special event could look like.

Ody: 16:37

So we have a woman celebrating her 60th birthday as a dancer while her husband is in the crowd. Her 60th birthday as a dancer while her husband is in the crowd. We have another mother who is celebrating the graduation of her youngest son with her two other kids as well. Another one in a wedding. Just a nice, cute way that AI is for the good Mike, Okay.

Nathan Mumm: 17:00

For the good. For the good Of creating a different reality, creating a different reality and creating a different reality.

Mike Gorday: 17:05

Creating a different reality and creating a Creating a different reality. That's a key concept right there. Okay, maybe not creating a different reality, but, okay, this is applying fantasy to something that Okay, well, maybe not fantasy, but also Can generate hope right.

Ody: 17:19

I mean it can give you peace. You know, these people have been given months to live, sometimes years if they're lucky. They'd like to know that in the future, this is what that would look like.

Mike Gorday: 17:33

It's for the person that's suffering. Right yeah, it's for the person that's suffering. I don't have a problem with that.

Ody: 17:38

I think it's nice, I think it's cute and I hope that it'll be something that more people can do in the future.

Mike Gorday: 17:46

Just think of that. I don't know if it's really that effective.

Nathan Mumm: 17:50

Well, these people seem to have quite a bit of a— that's 10 people.

Mike Gorday: 17:54

They just did it for 10 people. You have to really do a really concise study of a lot of people to see if this has any real negative effects.

Ody: 18:04

I mean sure, but you know one of the women described that it was as much as as beautiful as the image was. It was also very overwhelming to see that, because you know she might not see that, because she knew she wasn't going to be there Right.

Mike Gorday: 18:20

So that right there is considerable extra stress that she may or may not have needed.

Ody: 18:26

Right, Okay, I mean, you could see it like that. But you could also see it in the way of like okay, this is a great way.

Mike Gorday: 18:32

Yeah, in the meantime, this woman is going to be generating hope off of people's disease so that she can make money. Well, I think that's the idea To fund her AI-driven Whoa whoa, whoa, pessimist, hold on.

Ody: 18:47

Have you seen those images of people where they take black and white photographs and use AI to put them in color. Yeah, how is that bad.

Marc Gregoire: 18:55

Those are pretty good.

Mike Gorday: 18:56

I'm not really talking about colorizing old black and white movies. You know what we're going to be talking about how to. I'm talking about using something to put a fantasy together for somebody to give them hope.

Ody: 19:14

That's kind of like make a wish. It's not to give them hope, though. It's just you know.

Mike Gorday: 19:18

What is it for then?

Ody: 19:20

It's just a little piece of satisfaction.

Nathan Mumm: 19:22

I thought it was very good. All right, let's move on to story number four. All right, okay. European flying car technology sold to China. Powered by a BMW engine and normal fuel, the air car flew for 35 minutes between two airports in 2021, using runways to take off and land. Let's go to Corinne Westland for more on the story.

Speaker 8: 19:44

It took just over two minutes to transform from a car into an aircraft. This transformer-like flying car technology from Aircar Aircraft has been sold to China. China is designing vehicles to be used within a specific geographical region of its country. Hebei Jiangxin Flying Car Technology Company, headquartered in Kangzhou, has purchased exclusive rights to manufacture air car aircraft, and the firm has built its own airport and flight school for this type of air travel. Having led the way in developing the EV revolution, china is now actively developing flying transport solutions. So does that make you go home?

Nathan Mumm: 20:21

Home All right. Last month, a firm called Autoflight carried out a test flight of a passenger-carrying drone between the cities of Shenzhen and Zhuhai. The journey, which took three hours by car, was completed in 20 minutes, it said, although the aircraft contained no passengers. Now the UK government has said flying taxis could become a regular feature of the skies by 2028. But Aircar does not take off and land land vertically, and it does require a runway. Now, klein Vision declined to say how much it had sold the technology for, but air car was issued with the Certificate of Airworthiness by the Slavic Transportation Authority in 2022 and featured a video published by YouTuber MrBeast earlier this year.

Nathan Mumm: 21:05

There are still considerable hurdles for this form of transportation in the term of infrastructure, regulation and the public acceptance of the technology itself. This brave new world of personal transportation is acting as a great lever, said aviation consultant Stephen Wright. Similar concerns once applied to the electric cars, in which China has become a global market leader. Global attempts to regulate the sector, though, has left everyone scrambling to come up with a whole new sets of questions that need to be asked in respect to the West's histories, that we can sometimes move slowly over here and that we aren't as tempted into trying to figure out new technologies. Similar concerns once applied to the electric cars, in which China has become the global market leader. Now. Mr Wright said that well, prototypes like the air car were great fun. The reality was likely to end up being more mundane, with the queues and baggage checks and what's and what's nots that happen at your local airport.

Mike Gorday: 22:00

So that kind of does make sense if you're going to start doing this and have your car take off.

Nathan Mumm: 22:04

It's probably going to be a check-in check-out process.

Mike Gorday: 22:06

Yeah, it's going to be like a smaller grade airport, right.

Nathan Mumm: 22:09

Yeah, I have one in my town.

Mike Gorday: 22:12

Why wouldn't they do that with just Cessnas? If they're going to be air taxis, why don't they do that with just regular airplanes? Because, they're probably cheaper to make.

Nathan Mumm: 22:20

It's probably not as cool as this transforming car, though.

Mike Gorday: 22:24

Right, I'm pretty sure cool factor is not a huge thing for economics, economics, economy.

Nathan Mumm: 22:29

Economy. You have to do that.

Mike Gorday: 22:32

I can't even speak today, man, all right. Well, that's all right.

Nathan Mumm: 22:35

You got the Nathan Mummism, all right, there you go. Well, that ends our top technology stories of the week. Up next we have our guest Rick Voigt, who has spent his career helping people take, make and share pictures, and his clients have been excited with, essentially, the ability to take a picture itself that's blurry, maybe out of focus, and actually refocus it in and then create a narrative story with the picture itself to save on a digital era process so you can look at it later. All right, well, we're going to head out of this commercial break at 88 miles per hour into the next segment, so see you after this commercial break.

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Nathan Mumm: 24:18

Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan. Our weekly show covers the top technology subjects without a political agenda. We verify the facts and we do it with a sense of humor, in less than 60 minutes and, of course, with a little whiskey on the side. Today, mark Gregoire, our whiskey connoisseur, is back in studio, so Mike and I can ask questions about the whiskey and see what our special taste is. I know that this is some limited, unique bottle. So, mark, what have you chosen for us today?

Marc Gregoire: 24:45

Thank you, Nathan and Mike. It is a mouthful we are drinking today. Rossville Union Single Barrel Cast Strength Rye. It is Binnie's hand-picked number 159, 2021 selection.

Nathan Mumm: 24:58

Wow, okay, whew, whew.

Marc Gregoire: 25:01

Now from Rossville Union's website. They talk about this and they say the famous 95% rye mash bill, aged seven years, in a barrel from Kelvin Cooperage. Robust and delicious herbaceous rye spices up front on the nose as dried citrus, bartlett pear, roasted almonds, vanilla, custard and toasted oak settle right behind On the palate, chewy pear candy and caramel, chocolate covered orange, sweet cinnamon and some tea leaves. The finish is long and pleasant, with caramel and the tea eventually outlasting the other flavors. Dense and delicious. This is a rye lover's rye. Wow. Now this is from Ross and Squibb, which is MGP. It's from the Rossville Distillery, which is now the Ross and Squibb Distillery in Lawrenceburg, indiana. It's a straight rye seven years, 115 proof. It is 95% rye, 5% malted barley and at the time when this was purchased it was $65.

Nathan Mumm: 26:01

All right, how much is it on the—? How much can you purchase it now for, though?

Marc Gregoire: 26:05

It's not really a secondary market type whiskey.

Nathan Mumm: 26:08

Okay, it's got a strong bite man.

Marc Gregoire: 26:10

It attacks you. It's a big rye.

Nathan Mumm: 26:12

Yeah, it attacks you right out of the get-go it does not hold anything back. It's like boom, but it doesn't have a bad aftertaste, though the aftertaste dissipated pretty well, pretty well, you agree.

Marc Gregoire: 26:24

Sure.

Mike Gorday: 26:25

Now your listeners in the.

Marc Gregoire: 26:25

Midwest will know Benny's. It is kind of like our total wines out here in the West. It is throughout Illinois and even though they don't have this particular number, 159, anymore, they have continued to do picks of Rossville Union so you can get their latest pick there, perfect, all right.

Nathan Mumm: 26:42

Well, mark, I'm excited to hear what our special day is of the day a little bit later on the show. So you're going to want to make sure you save that for your good one today.

Nathan Mumm: 26:49

Here were Mark's mumbles. After our segments we have coming up here, but now, with our first whiskey tasting complete, let's move on to our feature segment of our technology insider. Today we have Rick Voigt joining us. Previously, Rick worked at Kodak where, through various sales and marketing roles, he completed his tenure as the vice president and national sales manager. Now at Hewitt Packard HP, Rick helped create the retail publishing solutions division. He is the CEO of Vivid Picks, his company and vents and harnesses technology, making it simple for individuals and organizations to relive their memories of shared stories. Let's welcome Rick to the Comcast video stream and start our next segment.

Speaker 1: 27:31

Welcome to Technology Insider. We get the information directly from the source.

Nathan Mumm: 27:37

All right, Rick, welcome to the show today. Thank you so much for joining us.

Rick Voight: 27:41

Nathan, Mike, thanks for having me.

Nathan Mumm: 27:43

Yeah, it's not a problem. I'm excited to have you on and talk about your project. So let's talk a little bit about Last month. I think it was the last day, or maybe it was the 30th. I don't know if it was the 30th or the 31st, but it was National Backup Day. Was it the 30th or the 31st, rick? Which day was it?

Rick Voight: 27:59

The 31st.

Nathan Mumm: 28:01

Okay, alright, so this is essentially a day where it's important to back up those items that you need. You should make sure you back up your computer of any data, because when your hard drive crashes and you don't have any data backed up, that's when your profanity-laced insults to the computer happen at a large rate.

Mike Gorday: 28:19

Really, I do that every day. Oh, you do that every day as a matter of course, okay.

Nathan Mumm: 28:23

All right. Well, Rick, explain what your product is and how you created it.

Rick Voight: 28:30

Well, thank you again for having me on. And photos are a prompt to a memory, so we like to say don't let your memories fade. So, as we take pictures, through time they fade, and that's due to heat, light, humidity, and so, similarly, as time progresses, oftentimes we forget things and we work, for instance, in the senior living facilities, and we want to make sure that memories are captured and shared prior to losing the knowledge. So, vividpix, we're all about A scanning images in a very high quality way. B bringing back the life through improving color, contrast, lightness and sharpness all at once with literally one click, patented software, and then capturing the voice narrative so what did these pictures mean to us? And that way we're able to make sure the knowledge is not lost. And then we stream all that information together in a movie, an MP4 file, so quickly and easily we're able to share our thoughts and our memories of photos and pastimes.

Nathan Mumm: 29:41

All right. Now you actually use a specific technology, like a scanner that you have on here. You guys actually took a device that was on market and you kind of optimize it. Explain a little bit about that.

Rick Voight: 29:51

Yeah, absolutely so. We work with the PFU division which is ScanSnap, and ScanSnap originally was created by Fujitsu. That division has been purchased by Ricoh since and Ricoh is actually a pretty cool company. They purchased Pentax through the year for those of you who may understand some old camera companies and what we've looked at with the device is that it does a top-down scan of your photos, your documents and even mementos up to an inch and a half tall. That can help tell the story. And when we work with libraries and archives, they need the file format in what's called TIFF, which is a lossless image file, and this device was capturing in JPEG or PDF, which is wonderful for the common consumer, but our customers are general consumers as well as professional individuals. So we took control of the Twain in order to capture in TIFF, lost this file and then we, with that then are able to bring it through our process and output JPEGs for standard consumers and and the TIFF for, for um, higher end consumers.

Nathan Mumm: 31:08

All right. So so I I saw so many demos of this and I I saw all your guys' testimonials that you have on your website and it looks like you have this like placed in libraries. You have a scanner that comes on in, so essentially you're putting a picture down on a flat surface, right? You have this camera that kind of does a scan that comes all the way out to the picture and then back into the picture itself and then from there there's a user interface, and so what's really interesting is the user interface not probably the most graphically enhanced, but it does have some simple features. That essentially allows people to add different items to the photos. A little bit of memories, explain a little bit on how easy this product is to restore a photo and then what you can do with that photo.

Rick Voight: 31:55

Absolutely. As you captured in my introduction, I spent a bunch of years at Kodak, way back when, and George Eastman, the founder of Kodak, had a pretty good idea, which was you press the button, we do the rest. And technology should be easy. Technologists like ourselves, we should be able to to allow the tech to be easily used and not require the user to to have difficulty. So we did um many different interactions with senior care facilities, with librarians, professional genealogists, everyday people, in order to just make it one click all the way through.

Rick Voight: 32:39

So scanning an image is literally as easy as clicking a button and you can scan up to 10 images at one time, automatically straightening and cropping those images. To do something more with Click restore Automatically all of those images that you have scanned come into your queue and with that one click, you're able to choose which image looks best to you through a patented algorithm in order to be able to make them look great. And then three. With one click, I can record a memory to be attached to that image file and then be able to combine those images and voices to a single movie. So everything has been designed for those who who may not be comfortable with technology, and and even for those that that might have more early stage cognitive decline.

Nathan Mumm: 33:38

Okay and so so I'm going to ask Mike that a little bit. That's your mesmerizing question. I'm going to ask about pictures and the history a little bit later today because I do think it makes a difference and I know that it's interesting because as we get older and we start forgetting stuff, those memories and those pictures are so important to the people that own them. But I was so devastated when my great-grandmother passed away and everybody came over to her house and took everything out of the house except for her photo albums. She left the photo albums, stayed there. Nobody wanted them.

Nathan Mumm: 34:10

Maybe it was because they were analog photos and people didn't want to capture the history. But she had spent years and years putting these photo albums together and I think having a digital process where I could put it up onto a YouTube file or something that I could watch at a later time would have been much more served than just throwing those away and emptying out all that time and effort. So this is kind of a little passion, part of what I need to make sure that I do when I pass on and hopefully my kids can watch a video or two of me. Maybe they'll see Mike right next to me and then they can say oh that was my dad.

Nathan Mumm: 34:43

Yeah, okay, all right.

Rick Voight: 34:51

All right, all right. Well, last thing, peter, thank you for bringing that up. So you're not alone that, unfortunately, those books, because the people don't, the loved ones who are still around don't know who and why. That picture was important and that's exactly what we're solving here. Is that? Do you have an interest to know where you came from? Do you have an interest? And maybe that was my loved one when they were 20 and they were traveling across America on Route 66. And this was an incredible experience and this was why they did what they did and you are who you are, and that's exactly the reason we've created what we've created for them and for you.

Mike Gorday: 35:32

And it works really simple, so it's explaining the memory to somebody that is not a participant in that memory, correct?

Nathan Mumm: 35:38

Is that what you're?

Rick Voight: 35:39

saying Exactly correct.

Nathan Mumm: 35:41

Yeah, so it takes the picture and then you can record audio for that and you can talk about what happened in that picture itself. Now, peter, where can people find out our show? We got to move on to our next segment, so where can people find out more about your product, more about you? Maybe get in touch with you directly? We have appreciated you being on our show. This is a major. We had an opening and I got you in here immediately because this is a big passion of me.

Rick Voight: 36:08

Absolutely so. Our website is Vivid, as in like vivid colors, V-I-V-I-D dash or hyphen, PIX P, as in Paul I-X, You'll see memory station right on the homepage and then also in the navigation bar memory station. So on our website, Vivid dash PIX P-I-X dot com, you'll see tutorial videos. You'll see why this is is helpful to many. We have easy installation guides, how to use the product. We've really tried to create the total solution for all, whether it's a consumer or whether it's a commercial operation.

Nathan Mumm: 36:47

All right, and so you can find these at public libraries at some locations. How much if I don't have this available to me? How much does it cost to get this system so I can do that for all my loved photos?

Rick Voight: 36:59

Absolutely. It starts at $799. And with that $799, you are getting this very high-end scanner and this very easy-to-use software. And we sell software the old-fashioned way. We are not a subscription. So when you buy our software, you own the software, you license, use software. And we sell software the old fashioned way. We are not a subscription. So when you buy our software, you own the software, you license the software, and so then with that, when we provide updates and provide additional features, you get free updates. And I'll give you an example of that. So our restore software automatically improves old, faded photos. Documents has been being sold for eight years. Our software is sold in over 130 countries, and so then with that, we provide free updates. And if, in fact, we come up with additional products and features, like we've done with MemoryStation, that's how we can generate incremental revenues. But when speaking with the customers, they don't like subscriptions. So that's how. That's why we sell what we sell. We start at $7.99 for this package, $1.99 for the software alone, perfect.

Nathan Mumm: 38:05

Thank you so much. Now, peter, we're going to have to be in touch and see how this goes, because I definitely want to touch base and get you on again during another holiday time. I want to thank you so much for being here.

Rick Voight: 38:16

My sincere pleasure, guys, and I wish I could enjoy that rye with you. It sounds good. Well it's got a bite. It's got a bite, it's all right.

Mike Gorday: 38:23

Thanks.

Nathan Mumm: 38:24

Rick. Thanks, rick, all right. Well, that ends our technology insider segment. Up next we have this Week in Technology, so now would be a great time to enjoy a little whiskey on the side, as we're going to be doing so during the break. You're listening to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm. See you in a few minutes.

Speaker 2: 38:38

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Speaker 1: 39:10

And now let's look back at this week in technology.

Nathan Mumm: 39:18

All right, we're going all the way back to March 28, 1935, the first gyroscope-controlled rocket launch. Robert Goddard, considered the father of modern rocketry, successfully launches the first gyroscope-controlled rocket into orbit. His A-5 rocket flew at an altitude of 4,800 feet, flew horizontally for 13,000 feet and reached a speed of 550 miles per hour. Gyroscope technology is critical for the stabilization of modern flight systems and is used in airplanes and spacecraft each and every day. Did you know that? Look at that, robert Goddard, march 28, 1935. Big technology, you know. Gyroscope helps keep your planes at the altitude levels that they need to and it has essentially the sensory control that knows if your plane is level or not level as you're flying. Pretty important thing to have as a part of your airplane device that's going on there.

Mike Gorday: 40:14

Okay, Thanks for all that physics knowledge buddy. Well, there you go.

Nathan Mumm: 40:18

Well, that was this week in technology. Have you ever wanted to watch some Tech Time History, with over 108 weekly broadcasts spanning plus years of video, podcasts and blog information? You can visit us at techtimeradiocom to watch our older shows. You're going to right now go to a commercial break. When we return, we have Mark's Whiskey Mumble review. See you after this.

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Speaker 1: 41:14

The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's Whiskey Mumble.

Marc Gregoire: 41:22

Hello again, gentlemen, hello.

Nathan Mumm: 41:24

What do we got for your mumble?

Marc Gregoire: 41:26

Well, what are we celebrating on March 19th? On March 19th, I love this day, I so want to celebrate it.

Nathan Mumm: 41:32

Wait, wait, wait March 19th or April 2nd. I love this day, I so want to celebrate it.

Marc Gregoire: 41:35

Wait, wait, wait. Are we doing it on March 19th or April 2nd? Oh, april 2nd, okay, where are you? March 19th? I don't know what we're celebrating on March 19th.

Mike Gorday: 41:40

Everybody's on the wrong day today. We're in the wrong people.

Nathan Mumm: 41:44

Day after April Fool's. Okay, there you go, april. Look at that he crosses it off.

Marc Gregoire: 41:51

He's like I got to remember that. Okay, there you go. But more importantly, what is today?

Nathan Mumm: 41:56

I should just say that Today is the day after. April Fool's Don't be fooled.

Mike Gorday: 42:01

Dave, this is happy March 19th Dave.

Marc Gregoire: 42:05

All right. What does it say, odie no?

Speaker 1: 42:08

All right.

Marc Gregoire: 42:10

Today is National. Ride your Horse to a Bar Day. Ride your Horse to a Bar Day.

Nathan Mumm: 42:14

Ride your horse to a bar day. Ride your horse to a bar day, oh, okay, all right. Does that count for automobiles? Nope, oh, it has to be an actual horse.

Marc Gregoire: 42:21

This day encourages people to do exactly as the name says Ride your horse to your favorite bar and enjoy a drink just like a cowboy. Now, horses have a long history with pubs. Okay, many of them were coaching inns, where stables were attached for horses to be rested or changed on the long journey. Following the day Now, many of the oldest surviving pubs mostly in Europe still offer such services.

Nathan Mumm: 42:43

Oh really.

Marc Gregoire: 42:44

So it's still possible to celebrate National Ride your Horse to a Bar Day.

Nathan Mumm: 42:48

I do know that the I take all my historical history from Young Guns and Young Guns 2. But when they came on out, the bars did have stables for the horses. I'll make you famous In the movie shows.

Marc Gregoire: 43:00

Okay, now let's talk about the whiskey Rossville, rossville, what Rossville Union? Okay, rossville.

Nathan Mumm: 43:09

Union, what else?

Marc Gregoire: 43:09

George Ross who, in 1847, founded the Rossville Distillery, which is now the Ross and Squibb Distillery Campus. He considered Lawrenceburg's original distilleries. He was considered one of Lawrence's first original distilleries, okay, and one of America's last Prohibition-era distilleries. Now, rossville Distillery was known for their rye whiskeys early on. Now, we've been talking about horses. Yeah, the first mash bill from the Rossville Distillery were produced from a grist mill powered by a single blind horse.

Nathan Mumm: 43:46

Really.

Marc Gregoire: 43:46

Yeah, this crude method of grinding grain meant the distillery was limited to two barrels of whiskey per week. Okay, that's all.

Nathan Mumm: 43:55

Those would probably sell out pretty quickly at the bar then.

Marc Gregoire: 43:57

Very much. There you go. Now we have to give a big thanks to our friend, chris Cantrell. Okay, now he provided this bottle for us. Now, the first time I sipped this I thought this was a standard rye, nothing special for MGP. Sipping it a second time, and then a third time and today a fourth time, I now think this is a solid high rye rye for a cast strength offering, especially for that price and that seven-year age statement. I think Binney's did a good job on this particular pick.

Nathan Mumm: 44:24

All right, and Chris is one of your buddies in your little whiskey. Yeah, you met him, I did meet him, you did a little party with the bourbon boys.

Marc Gregoire: 44:31

We did, we did. It was pretty fun.

Nathan Mumm: 44:33

I'll tell you they knew a lot about their whiskey as much as I know about 1980 baseball players. They knew about their whiskey. It was pretty big. Okay, all right. Well, mark, thanks for the mumble.

Marc Gregoire: 44:43

You're welcome.

Nathan Mumm: 44:44

Whiskey and technology. What a great pairing, Just like the comedic pair of Abbott and Costello. Who's on first? Seriously yeah, there you go Okay well, let's get ready for our technology fail of the week. We are out of time. Congratulations, you're a failure.

Speaker 8: 45:00

Oh, I failed.

Rick Voight: 45:03

Did I yes, did I yes, did I.

Nathan Mumm: 45:08

Yes, all right. So who do you trust more hackers or a company? Because, essentially, hackers said this breach happened and the company said it didn't happen. And now we're finding out today the company lied to us and the hackers were right on cue. I know that they have really good customer service they do and they normally don't lie when they have a breach.

Speaker 2: 45:30

Why do they need to?

Nathan Mumm: 45:30

lie. They don't. I've yet to find a hacking company that announced they actually breached something and it was a fake breach. They just don't need to because they have so much they can do for their stuff. But now AT&T has finally confirmed that it was impacted by a data breach affecting 73 million current and former customers, after initially denying the leaked data originated from them. This comes after AT&T has reported denying, for the past two weeks, a massive trove of leaked customer data originating from them and their systems that had been breached. While the company continues to say that there's no indication their systems were breached, it now has confirmed that the leaked data belongs to 73 million current and former customers.

Mike Gorday: 46:09

Maybe it was chat GPT that they're using that.

Nathan Mumm: 46:15

Well, a quote-unquote from AT&T. Based on our preliminary analysis, the data set appears to be from 2019 or earlier, impacting approximately 7.6 million current AT&T account holders and approximately 65.4 million former account holders. Now let me ask you this so you're telling me that AT&T has lost 65.4 million account holders since this breach in 2019?

Mike Gorday: 46:42

That's like a big number. That's what you're keying on.

Ody: 46:44

Yeah, I was keying on that, so those must have gone to T-Mobile.

Nathan Mumm: 46:46

That's the unbound company. Now, the company further says that security passcodes used to secure accounts were also leaked for the 7.6 million customers. In 2021, a threat actor known as Shiny Hunters claimed to have the stolen data of the 73 million AT&T customers. And guess what? They were right. All right, fast forward to 2024. Fast forward to 2024, and another threat actor leaked the massive data site on a hacking forum, stating that it was the same data stolen by shiny hunter in 2019. That was our technology fail of the week.

Nathan Mumm: 47:23

Let's now go to a commercial break. When will we come back?

Mike Gorday: 47:31

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Nathan Mumm: 47:51

Bookpository and more. This is Mike's Mesmerizing Moment, presented by Story Coffee. Visit storycoffeecom. All right, mike, I kind of keyed up the question I'm going to ask you a little bit earlier in our segments Do photos kind of help us with our memory as we age, or do photos help us have reoccurring memories as we get older? I'm kind of curious. I'm getting a little older and will the photo album that you see in like 50 First Dates you see like Adam Sandler goes and he creates a video so that his girlfriend knows what's going on. Does that actually help us remember what's going on?

Mike Gorday: 48:30

That's a really complicated question because we have to talk about what memory is Okay, right. So most people kind of think memory is taking a photograph and it's not. Memory is very malleable Okay, so in cases where people with early onset dementia or Alzheimer's are shown pictures, it can help crispen those memories up, okay, but once those memories are gone or they have no meaning, the pictures can do nothing.

Marc Gregoire: 49:03

Okay.

Mike Gorday: 49:09

Furthermore, you can actually change somebody's memories by using pictures, because the way our memories are influenced oh really. So, yes, I can literally take a picture of somebody in an air balloon or something that they've never done and showed it to them, and then they will create the memory.

Ody: 49:26

Oh.

Mike Gorday: 49:29

So this is a very hard question to answer, can it? Yes, but only under certain circumstances.

Nathan Mumm: 49:35

Okay, all right. So if I had a picture of me on the bridge of the Enterprise after a while, if you kept on feeding that to me, I believe that I was on the bridge.

Mike Gorday: 49:43

You already have enough delusions. You could probably fit that one in, yeah.

Nathan Mumm: 49:46

Okay, okay, let's get ready now for our Nathan Nugget.

Speaker 1: 49:52

This is your Nugget of the Week.

Nathan Mumm: 49:54

All right, we're going to talk about a social media platform that I'm just so excited about, that I predicted would fail and is on rock bottom processes right now. Have you ever heard of Truth Social?

Mike Gorday: 50:06

No, never.

Nathan Mumm: 50:06

Truth. Social Trump's DJT stock plummets days after going public. Did it go public? It did so. Trump Media makes its money exclusively through advertising on True Social. Shares of Donald Trump's social media company fell by more than 20% on Monday, less than a week after it began its public trading under the ticker DJT.

Mike Gorday: 50:31

Donald J Trump is the ticker. Is that why he's on my YouTube now asking for money?

Nathan Mumm: 50:35

I don't know why. I guess he must have lost this. Well, the drop comes after Trump Media and Technology Group reported that it had lost nearly $60 million last year by only bringing in around $4 million in revenue. The price plunge caused the former president's net worth to shrink to $1 billion. According to Bloomberg, shares had surged last week, given the company an $11 billion evaluation, but experts warn the stock was going to tumble as its main product, true Social, lost users and burns cash. On Monday, shares of the media company, which makes its money exclusively again through advertising, fell to $13.30 from the original price the previous week at $48.66. There you go. Trump Social launched in February of 2022, one year after former president was banned from Twitter, now X and Facebook, in the aftermath of the violent riots at the US Capitol. So Trump Social is having a problem. If I was to ask you for a prediction show, will Trump Social exist at the end of this year? Say yes or no.

Mike Gorday: 51:37

I'll say no, I'll say it'll limp along. It'll limp along.

Ody: 51:42

I agree, I think it'll still survive.

Mike Gorday: 51:44

It'll limp along.

Nathan Mumm: 51:45

It'll limp along with very few people using it. So I use Postnet as my other Facebook posting and other postings where you can get all of your Tech Time radios at. I do not use Trump Social. It was too difficult to sign up for we should make a picture of that, what's that?

Mike Gorday: 52:01

We should make a picture of that Of Trump Social. Okay, there you go All right.

Nathan Mumm: 52:05

Well, now let's move to our pick of the day.

Mike Gorday: 52:07

It hurts.

Speaker 1: 52:10

And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings.

Marc Gregoire: 52:17

Let's see what bubbles to the top Today, yes, you are drinking Rossville Union single barrel cast strength rye. Now this is Benny's handpicked number 159, 2021 selection. It is MGP, so from Ross and Squibb it is a straight rye seven years, 115 proof and $65 roughly $65, roughly $65.

Nathan Mumm: 52:40

Oh, I don't know, $65.

Mike Gorday: 52:42

That's not for you. It's not for you.

Nathan Mumm: 52:45

It's not. I'm actually going to give it a thumbs down. It's a little too expensive for me and I didn't like it. It was just okay you had $40 whiskey on here. That's been much better, but that's just my opinion. Mark's over there shaking his head.

Mike Gorday: 52:59

That's because the cheaper the whiskey, the better it tastes to you.

Nathan Mumm: 53:02

Well, not necessarily.

Mike Gorday: 53:04

That's like, that's like.

Nathan Mumm: 53:05

So are you going to give this a thumbs up or are you going to give a thumbs down?

Mike Gorday: 53:08

Uh, you know I've. I've been enjoying ryes lately. This one has a really nice finish, but the rye burn at the front is a little bit too much for me, so I'm going to give it a thumbs down.

Nathan Mumm: 53:19

So Mark's going to go over here. He's losing his.

Marc Gregoire: 53:22

I brought you a whole basket of whiskeys, I think. I'm taking them all home with me. So tell us, is this one of your?

Nathan Mumm: 53:28

favorites.

Marc Gregoire: 53:29

No, this is not a high-quality rye, I mean $65.

Nathan Mumm: 53:39

You can't find too much more for less than $65 unless you go to that bottom shelf. No, we've had some stuff on here that's been like $45. Canadian missed.

Marc Gregoire: 53:44

You brought in like $45. For a seven-year rye At cast strength. Should I continue Okay?

Nathan Mumm: 53:53

I guess you should not. So this is clearly on Mark's shelf at home. No, this is on.

Marc Gregoire: 53:57

Chris's shelf. You just bagged on our friend's whiskey, no I like Chris a lot.

Nathan Mumm: 54:01

He was a really good expert. I'm just saying for $65.

Marc Gregoire: 54:05

For $65 for what the specs are. I give this a thumbs up.

Nathan Mumm: 54:07

It's solid.

Marc Gregoire: 54:08

MGP rye Okay all right. Now, if it was $100, no, okay.

Nathan Mumm: 54:13

Okay.

Mike Gorday: 54:15

It wasn't. Don't try to dig yourself out of the hole, buddy.

Ody: 54:18

Okay, but if it was $40, would you be giving it a thumbs?

Nathan Mumm: 54:20

up. Yes, I'd give it a thumbs up.

Ody: 54:21

See, that's just.

Nathan Mumm: 54:22

That's a $25 difference, though $25. I mean, that buys a lot of fireballs.

Mike Gorday: 54:29

We we know that his taste is based on a dollar figure.

Marc Gregoire: 54:32

That's right he has a cork.

Nathan Mumm: 54:34

He's cheap. It does have a cork it does have a cork. All right, well, we thank. Chris for this All right. Well, we want to thank our listeners for joining the program. Listeners, we want to hear from you, so click on Tech Time Radio. Click on that BR caller and ask us a information on techtimeradiocom it was an honor to be the host of today's show.

Nathan Mumm: 54:55

If you enjoyed the show, make sure you give us a five-star review on whatever podcast service you're using, and remember the science of tomorrow starts with the technology of today. Bye, bye-bye.

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