TechTime with Nathan Mumm

196: Automakers Share Driving habits with Insurance Companies, and indoor surveillance is now outlawed at an Airbnb with 4G Wi-Fi on the Moon? Gwen Way shares a robot pet, as Roku accounts are for sale on DarkWeb. | Air Date: 3/10 - 3/16/24

March 13, 2024 Nathan Mumm Season 6 Episode 196
TechTime with Nathan Mumm
196: Automakers Share Driving habits with Insurance Companies, and indoor surveillance is now outlawed at an Airbnb with 4G Wi-Fi on the Moon? Gwen Way shares a robot pet, as Roku accounts are for sale on DarkWeb. | Air Date: 3/10 - 3/16/24
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Prepare to question everything you thought you knew about technology and privacy as Mike Gorday and I, Nathan Mumm, alongside cybersecurity guru Gwen Way, crack open the digital Pandora's box. From the comfort of your home to the moon's craggy surface, we're bringing you insights that just might tempt you to wrap your Wi-Fi password in a space blanket. Hear how the automotive industry's hunger for data could drive up your insurance premiums and why Airbnb's latest policy might allow you not double-check your rental smoke alarms for cameras.

Ever wondered if high-tech innovations can stir the soul like a finely aged bourbon? We put this to the test, weaving tales from ancient papermaking to whiskey's spirited history, all while sipping on Four Roses Bourbon. And as for that spontaneous investment I made live on the show? You'll get the inside track on LOOI, the Kickstarter sensation promising to turn your smartphone into a robot pal. Gwen's infectious enthusiasm for the latest gadgets might have you reaching for your wallet, too.

So, whether you're a tech aficionado or just someone who appreciates a good yarn (and perhaps a tipple), this episode's for you. We'll send you off with a few laughs, some head-scratching moments, and a newfound appreciation for the complex dance between innovation and privacy. Join us on Tech Time Radio for a journey that's as educational as it is entertaining, and remember—sometimes the most technological word we need is 'cheers'!

Stay tuned for all this and more, only on TechTime Radio with Nathan Mumm, the show that makes you go "Humm" Technology news of the week for March 10 - March 16, 2024

Episode 196: Starts at :30

--- [Now on Today's Show]
--- [Top Stories in Technology]

--- [Pick of the Day - Whiskey Tasting Reveal]
Four Roses Single Barrel Barrel Strength OBSO | 111.4 Proof | $100 / 750ml (~$150 Secondary)

--- [Gadgets and Gear with Gwen Way]:
LOOI: Turn Your Smartphone into a Desktop Robot! - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tangiblefuture/looi-robot-turn-your-smartphone-into-a-desktop-robot?ref=global-nav-featured-project

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March 11, 105 - Paper is Shown to the Emperor of China, Paper Industry is Launched
 
--- [Marc's Whiskey Mumble]
Marc Gregoire's review of this week's whiskey

--- [Technology Fail of the Week]
This week’s “Technology Fail” comes to us from Roku with a data breach impacting over 15,000 customers

--- [Mike's Mesmerizing Moment brought to us by StoriCoffee®]
Question:  Air BnB – Should the renter be allowed to view their guest since it is their home?

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--- [Pick of the Day Whiskey Review]
Four Roses Single Barrel Barrel Strength OBSO | 111.4 Proof | $100 / 750ml (~$150 Secondary)
Mike: Thumbs Up
Nathan: Thumbs Up

Speaker 1:

Broadcasting Across the Nation, from the East Coast to the West, keeping you up to date on technology while enjoying a little whiskey on the side, with leading edge topics, along with special guests to navigate technology in a segmented, stylized radio program. The information that will make you go, hmmm. Pull up a seat, raise a glass with our hosts as we spend the next hour talking about technology for the common person. Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mum.

Nathan Mumm:

Welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mum. The show that makes you go hmmm. Technology News of the Week. This show for the everyday person Talking about technology, broadcasting Across the Nation with insightful segments on subjects Weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mum, your host, glad to be back. I was off last week. So, mr Gorday, thank you very much for filling in. For me, it was a great show to listen to. I had a great time listening to that, but I'm glad to be back in the captain's chair. Are you ready to go today, because I got lots of energy. This is like 80D, nathan Mum. So here we go.

Mike Gorday:

Are you ready? That's normal for you.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, all right. So I'm a technologist with 30 years of technology expertise. Our co-host here, mike Gorday, is in studio and he's the award winning author and human behavior expert. We are live streaming our show on five of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, twitchtv X, facebook and LinkedIn. We encourage you to visit us online at techtimeradiocom and become a Patreon supporter at patreoncom.

Nathan Mumm:

Forward slash techtimeradio. We are all friends here, from different backgrounds, but we bring the best technology show possible for our family, friends and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have ODR producer at the control panel today. Welcome everyone. Let's start today's show.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, welcome aboard to the Tech Time Radio Express Today. I'm your captain, nathan Mum. We're about to take off on a bite-sized adventure through technology cosmos. Buckle up, because our flight plan is packed with tech turbulence, wi-fi waves. Picture this Neil Armstrong, buzz Aldrin and a lunar Wi-Fi hotspot. Yes, folks, we're talking about streaming cat videos on the moons for get about one step for mankind. It's more like one giant leap for binge watching.

Nathan Mumm:

Then attention to our Airbnb hosts. Your living room is not a reality TV set. Airbnb has officially outlawed indoor surveillance. We're going to be talking about that. So think again about planning those live streams of your guests, late night snack raids, privacy wins and the cameras lose. Next we have Gwen way up in our feature segment. She's going to unveil a device that made me invest in it after watching a two minute video. And then, on this weekend technology, we flash back to March 11th 105. No smartphones, no Wi-Fi, just a bunch of monks, and we update you on what your car is selling. And do you know that your car knows more about you than your therapist? That's right. Yep, that's true. Just think that 2am Taco Bell run might affect your premiums, as your insurance costs may go up as we talk about it in our lead story. So fasteners, seatbelts, still those emotional baggages in the overhead compartments, and let's prepare for a techtastic ride on tech time radio. Let's start now with our first headline.

Speaker 1:

Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, okay, automakers are sharing consumer driving behavior with insurance companies. Now, we talked about this back in episode 170 of Tech Time Radio on September 13th of last year, regarding the privacy aspects of new cars. Oh, that was the date of the fire. That was. That's a big day in your life, isn't it? Yeah, you remember that. Okay, so since we talked about what the automakers were doing when they're exposing contracts, when you would go on in and you would buy a new car, you sign up and you sign your privacy away, most of the time not even knowing about it, from a salesperson that says here you go, here's something that will help you save lives. It'll help you save certain stuff. Here we're going to track your miles per hour. We're going to make sure that you drive safely. Don't worry about this data. Well, guess what? That is now being sold to insurance companies and that is making the difference in people's premiums when they look to renew.

Mike Gorday:

I feel like we may have predicted that we kind of did, we kind of, we didn't quite call it out that way, but you know what?

Nathan Mumm:

Let's go right now to Corinne Westlund for a little bit more on this story.

Speaker 4:

Lexus Nexus, which generates consumer risk profiles for insurers, knows about every trip GM drivers have taken in their cars, including when they speed, brake too hard or accelerate rapidly. Automakers and data brokers that have partnered to collect detailed driving data from millions of Americans say they have the driver's permission to do so. However, the existence of these partnerships is nearly invisible to drivers, whose consent is obtained in fine print and murky privacy policies that few read. The car companies are really good at linking these features to safety, but they're about making money and charging more for your insurance based on your driving risks. Back to you in the studio.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, so we're going to tell a little story about an individual. His name is Ken Dahl.

Mike Gorday:

I'm sure he gets teased about it.

Nathan Mumm:

I'm sure he may be a little bit, but essentially he is a careful driver, the owner of a software company near Seattle. He drives a Least Chevrolet Bolt. He has never been responsible for an accident. So when he Mr Dahl at 65, was surprised when his premiums jumped up 21% on his insurance for his vehicles. Quotes from other insurance companies were also high, and so Mr Dahl said, why did my premiums jump up so much? One of the insurance agents told him that it was because his Lexus Nexus report was a factor. This is a company named Lexus Nexus, so it sounds like a car company kind of Lexus, right. So you kind of got it. But Lexus Nexus is a New York based global data broker with a risk solution division that caters to the auto industry's insurance companies themselves.

Nathan Mumm:

Upon Dahl's request, lexus Nexus sent a 258 page consumer disclosure report, which must be provided per the FUR Act Reporting Act that essentially had more than 130 pages detailing when him and his wife would drive the bolt over the previous six months and included the dates of 640 trips, their start times, their end times, the distance driven and accounting for any speeding, heartbreaking or sharp accelerations that happened during this time.

Nathan Mumm:

The only thing it didn't have is where they had driven the car to, but it had GPS locations so you could pretty much figure this out. So, essentially, an individual never been in a wreck has a great driving record. He's going on in Mr Dahl here to take a look at his insurance premiums. All of a sudden they jump up 21%. He's like why the heck would they jump up 21%? I'm 65, I'm getting older. They should probably come down. He went to different agencies insurance agencies to find different pricing and finally one of the people said well, it's not that you don't have a great driving record, but that there's a company out there that essentially reports to all the insurance companies by the name of Lexus Nexus. That has all your data and they consider you a high risk.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, I think Lexus Nexus needs to go away.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, so it's interesting here. So essentially GM was probed about it. Gm says that they don't sell this information to Lexus Nexus, but essentially what they do is they sell it to the parent company both GM, honda, kia Honda and we talked about these in the previous report that we did, and go back and watch episode 170 for more information on your privacy in your car itself.

Nathan Mumm:

But essentially these are being sold either to Lexus Nexus or they're being sold to another company that's out there. That is essentially their I don't want to say their brother or sister company that essentially is in there and it's a part of the OnStar conglomerate of information. Now see, I have.

Mike Gorday:

OnStar, but I don't use it.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't have it Well, okay, well, do you understand that the Cadillac owner, mr Dahl, essentially he has OnStar in his car itself and he never signed up for it, but it still tracks it because just because you don't use the OnStar, they still can use all the data of that tracking device, even though you've never turned it on, which Mr Dahl did not turn it on in his specific car and essentially they still used internet connected systems to relay that information back out.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, see, this is what twists my guts up and knots. This is what really upsets me about how technology is used.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, did you know this is happening? So, essentially, gm confirmed that it shared information, not with Lexus Nexus, but with a company called Verrisk, the ERISK Verrisk, and Verrisk is essentially the parent company of Lexus Nexus, because Lexus Nexus is now getting out there, so people know it. So they essentially said well, we don't share it with Lexus Nexus, but we give it to the parent company and give the information.

Mike Gorday:

This is penalizing somebody for having risk factors. That is correct. See, that is patently wrong. I mean, even in our legal system, you're not allowed to penalize for risk factors.

Nathan Mumm:

So Lexus Nexus Risk Solutions, which is a software solution, retains customers' driving data for six months for all the drivers and then they're not allowed to keep it past six months with the accordance of the current laws that are in place. But essentially they can do six months' bolt of data, so a data dump. We do this all the time in data companies you take a data dump of six months and then in three months later you take a data dump and then when you have an algorithm, run into a real quick batch file that puts them in the system so you can have historical data. So it doesn't mean that the historical data isn't there, it just may not be stored by Lexus.

Mike Gorday:

Nexus. See, this is the kind of stuff that makes people not get insurance, so they're driving around illegally and then they do get in an accident and you can't get any recompense from them because the insurance companies are so busy gouging everybody. Based on these types of numbers, and it sounds like I have a real hard feelings about this, and I do.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, so essentially, if you want to learn a little bit more about this, there's a Respect your Privacy driver feedback forum that's available online that you can take a look at. Essentially all car companies, every single car company that you can purchase in the United States, every single one there's not one that's emitted from. This Essentially has you sign a user acceptance on a purchase of a new vehicle, which gives them the right for them to track and to have this information on you, which then could have a problem with your insurance company if your rates decide to go up.

Mike Gorday:

I think you should argue coercion on those things, because when you're sitting in there for eight, ten hours trying to buy a new car, it becomes more of a coercive sort of system.

Nathan Mumm:

The car companies say that this is to help people develop safer driving habits. That's BS.

Mike Gorday:

That's absolute BS. It doesn't translate into helping people be safer drivers. It doesn't translate into any positive regard for the driver. All it does is translate into more dollars for the insurance companies.

Nathan Mumm:

So that's a pretty big breaking story. Now, the last story that we talked about it did take about two months and then it did kind of get mainstream again with the car information. So this is now the first real big news break regarding insurance companies now using this. So Lexus Nexus, buh-bye. You do not want to be using that. That means you need to go back to a car that's four years older than what the current models are to remove yourself from these user acceptances they're never going to buy a new car ever again.

Nathan Mumm:

All these, used cars are going to have these high values as they can take over.

Mike Gorday:

I'm going to become Nathan and get Nios, get a 1995 Geo Metro. Yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

So story number two bud, it's up for you.

Mike Gorday:

Oh well, Are you an Airbnber?

Nathan Mumm:

I am. I do like them a lot.

Mike Gorday:

Well, Airbnb has come out and has banned all indoor security cameras, which announced on Monday and this is a global listing issue the Vacation Homestay rental company announced on Monday that they have come to this decision after many reports of hidden cameras over the years.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, I have a device that I specifically bought because when I do run Airbnbs, to make sure that there wasn't infrared cameras in these- yeah, see, when you said the title this last night, what was the first thing I said? You were like well, why Was that the first thing you said? You said why.

Mike Gorday:

Well, I said it's probably because people are spying on you while you're in your Airbnb, correct, and yeah, I think this is a good idea.

Mike Gorday:

While the majority of the listings more than 7 million worldwide at the end of last year don't report having indoor security cameras, airbnb said the policy change was made in an effort to prioritize the privacy of guests.

Mike Gorday:

Previously, the company allowed indoor security cameras in common areas, as long as they were disclosed on the listing page before booking and clearly visible to guests. The update of this policy simplified the approach and makes it clear that security cameras are not allowed inside listings, regardless of their location, purpose or prior disclosure. The revised policy, which takes effect on the 30th of April, also includes more thorough rules on the use of outdoor security cameras and other devices, such as noise noise decibel monitors, which are required to be disclosed before the guest books. More cameras will not be allowed in certain areas where there's a greater expectation of privacy, such as the sauna. Vrbo, another vacation rental company, states that it does not allow any form of surveillance device inside a property, with the exception of smart devices that are allowed as long as you have been informed of their presence and given the option to activate them. Surveillance devices that use any form of capture device, such as a camera or audio recorder, can't be used inside a property either.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, well, that kind of makes sense. So I mean I get creeped out a little bit but but well, I don't use Airbnb, so I don't.

Mike Gorday:

I don't really know, I just did one.

Nathan Mumm:

My wife and I, for our anniversary, went rented an Airbnb really nice lot cabin out in the middle, no man's land, still had internet and still had satellite dish, so I was okay for my Sunday football.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, we all know about your alert allergicness to fantasy football.

Nathan Mumm:

So I still okay there, but yeah, so they had some cameras outside that they visibly showed and we actually went around and we're taking a look to make sure there was no additional cameras Not that I think that I really care.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, have you found hidden cameras in any Airbnb that you stayed at? I?

Nathan Mumm:

think the California one that we stayed at. We were down in the California one, I did not. We did not have that device at the time, so I did not do that. But I think that that one probably had additional hidden cameras in that they had this little play area. It was a little bit of a setup and it kind of a deal. I don't know if it was to like creep out or spy on people, but I bet you there is probably some in some common spaces there, but I did not verify it. Again, I don't know if I'm a homeowner and.

Nathan Mumm:

I have an Airbnb. I'd be kind of conflicted because I'd like to have it in the common area space to make sure that people aren't doing some raging party or doing something.

Mike Gorday:

Well, that's the risk you take for renting out your property.

Nathan Mumm:

I just ran out my RV too.

Mike Gorday:

That's part of isn't that what I would assume? That's part of the insurance that Airbnb provides.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, yeah. So you know what? I probably wouldn't be as adverse to removing my cameras. Now that I think about it, I think that would make sense Did you have a comment you were going to say there, Odie.

Mike Gorday:

It's pronounced verb-o.

Nathan Mumm:

VRBO yeah, is it verb-o? Well, yeah, okay.

Mike Gorday:

Thank you for that. You're welcome, she's taking care of it.

Nathan Mumm:

Verb-o, verb-o. There you go, okay, all right, well talk about the moon buddy. Are you ready to talk about the moon? What if? So? This is kind of an interesting story. What if we establish Wi-Fi on the moon? So let's just talk about how we have Wi-Fi here in the world.

Speaker 5:

Why do we need it?

Nathan Mumm:

We go out to a satellite for Wi-Fi, especially if you're on Starlink. Starlink is a great internet service. Elon Musk's company is doing pretty good with this, so you can just shoot up to the satellite, come on back down. Essentially, you go into a satellite, you're getting a relay and it comes back to a station. It wouldn't be that difficult to have that satellite have an additional reflector on the other side that you essentially sent waves from the moon to that reflector to get internet service Now what if?

Mike Gorday:

What if we send a satellite to a surface?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, you know what? Let's go and talk to David Larson, who's got a little bit more about Wi-Fi on the moon.

Speaker 5:

Can you hear me now? 4g and 5G wireless connection speeds are being planned to be implemented on the moon. Nasa is launching moon relay satellites as part of its lunar communications relay and navigation systems project. Once 4G and 5G are available on the moon, any astronaut on the surface can communicate reliably with their rovers, instruments and crew members. Any data coming back to Earth can then be sent over one link. We have seen truly incredible strides in mobile communications on Earth in just the past 10 to 20 years, says NASA, and if we reliably deploy those same conveniences to the moon, we'll be in great shape. The first opportunity for moonwalkers to test surface communications in person is likely to be NASA's Artemis III mission in 2026.

Mike Gorday:

Alright, so that makes more sense.

Nathan Mumm:

So okay, so it does. It says before you're like what the heck are you doing?

Mike Gorday:

The moon's been really pissed off about everything and be like hey, give us Wi-Fi.

Nathan Mumm:

So just think you know, that's because the astronauts are out there. They need to stay up to date on their Netflix accounts and everything. No, that's not why it's there. But essentially, if you look at it, the technology to implement on the moon, the ability to relay them back to other satellites. Now they're going to actually create a sphere around the moon. So think of the moon as a circle right, right, so like a basketball right, that's an analogy.

Mike Gorday:

You want me to think about that. I just want you to think. The moon is being a flat, or are you a flat moon society guy?

Marc Gregoire :

No.

Nathan Mumm:

I'm not. You will have to have relays that essentially orbit the moon itself in an area so they can shoot the information back from one satellite to another satellite to then a relay station back at Earth. But if you can get 3G, 4g speeds now and now you can send tons of data you can fix stuff. You could then literally code from residentially here in the Earth to the moon.

Mike Gorday:

This isn't going to be able to allow us to connect to the moon.

Nathan Mumm:

This is primarily building the infrastructure for a lot more visits to the moon and, at some point, a colony on the moon, Probably probably in some type of and if we're gonna try to go to Mars or we're gonna try to go to Saturn and some of these other planets out there, it would make sense. I mean, as much as this sounds science fiction-like, it would make sense to have the moon as a port out there, where the ships would launch from or go to, as an additional location that they can come back to before you go back into Earth's atmosphere. So they are just deciding to build Wi-Fi on the moon. Yeah, and just think there's no-.

Mike Gorday:

I wonder if I can get better rates.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, do you know what I was thinking? It'd probably be better than going through the mountain passes here. They'll probably have better service in the moon. This is something that's amazing.

Mike Gorday:

Why would you think that? Well, because you go to.

Nathan Mumm:

Africa. Right, you think Africa is like a horribly unconnected place. You go to Africa and you get 3G service throughout all of Africa, in the middle of no-man's land, because there's no regulations for towers. There's no other type of deal. So if you get up here quick enough in the moon and you can put a bunch of towers up there, they'll probably be safe from anything.

Mike Gorday:

Oh well, I wonder what they're gonna do with those people that buy pieces of the moon. Well, I don't know. I have a piece of the moon, I know.

Nathan Mumm:

That's what I'm saying. I got a one by one square.

Mike Gorday:

Does yours get? Do you have to upcharge that because you're gonna get Wi-Fi? I don't know. Wait a minute, there you go, okay, all right, that's actually a pretty good question.

Nathan Mumm:

I now need to send it back to my constellations of the moon places.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, I might follow up with that.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, I need to send them because they never respond to me when they try to respond and talk with them, but they sure took by $79 to give me a little piece of the moon.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, do you have a star too? I do have a star named after me, I'm sure you do.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, do you have a star named after you? No, and do you know what I'm working on?

Mike Gorday:

being knighted too. I don't own a piece of the moon. I have considered becoming a lord in Scotland, Okay there you go. I could buy a foot by foot piece of grass.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, that ends our top technology stories of the week. Moving on, Gwenway is up with our gadgets and gear segment. That is so good that I invested no more than three minutes after learning about this product. What is this great new gadget? We're gonna have it up next. You're listening to Tech Time with Nathan Mum. See you after this commercial break.

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Nathan Mumm:

Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mom. Our weekly show covers the weekly top technology subjects without any political agenda. We verify the facts and we do it with a sense of humor, in less than 60 minutes and, of course, with a little whiskey on the side. Today, mark Gregoire, our whiskey connoisseur, joins us in the studio to tell us what we are tasting today. So, mark, what are we tasting today? Because it was pretty hot there.

Marc Gregoire :

Yes, it is so for your welcome back. We brought four roses single barrel barrel strength, obso. Now from four roses' website they say some bourbon recipes stand on their own as single barrel offerings as well as being mingled with other recipes to create the small batch bourbons. This month's recipe, the OBSO, is both a team player and can stand on its own. So the B stands for the high-rise mash bill, the O is the E-strain, which means it's fruit forward. This combination of OBSO gives its signature deep, rich fruit notes that balance perfectly with the bright rye spice. Some of the fruit flavors produced by the O-strain are cherry, red apple, ripe cherry and light-bearing. Now, as it's the younger age of this, the flavors are bright and crisp. But as it ages to the longer years it increases in the caramel and vanilla tones mingling with mellow fruit flavors to create a deep, dark fruit tones that sometime give an almost candied impression.

Marc Gregoire :

Now this is from the Kiran Bruin Company. It's from the Four Roses Distillery and from Kentucky Straight Bourbon. It is 10 years, four months. It is 111.4 proof 60% corn, 35% rye and five malted barley. Price point is $100. Sometimes on the second area you see it for 150.

Nathan Mumm:

So you know what? It was pretty strong. It had a little bit of a bite, but you know there's not a burn. Though I'm not burning it, it's not coming back to me after I've had it. Are you getting any?

Mike Gorday:

burn. That's all the monster. You drank before you came.

Nathan Mumm:

Is that the monsters I drank? All right now. I kind of like this.

Marc Gregoire :

All right Now stay tuned for the mumbles, because that's gonna be fun. We're gonna compare this to another Four Roses single barrel barrel strength, with a slightly different variation of it.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay. Well, there you go. See what we're. Everything's back ready to go. Okay, now let's get ready for our gal. She is an expert in cybersecurity during the day and a game board geek in the union, as well as the producer of Tech Time Radio and our gadgets and gear. Gal Gwen Wei is joining us back ready to go on our Comcast video stream now.

Speaker 1:

What's new in our gadgets and gear.

Speaker 5:

All right, Gwen, so this is Join the fun and grab tickets to Geekfest West the three oh, okay whatever what's going on, we do want everybody to join us.

Gwen Way:

There you go there you go.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, all right. Well, there you go, odie. There's one strike, two more and she's out. Okay, no, as we go, gwen, glad to have you Now. You were really smart last night because you clearly know how to pick an item for a Kickstarter or one of these gadgets. Because you picked an item and you didn't have a secondary real item ready to go and you knew that I was gonna be a hook line and sinker into this product and I was Literally Odie.

Mike Gorday:

Literally, you watched part of the video and then signed up while we were at the-.

Nathan Mumm:

You guys actually saw me signing up, didn't you?

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, we all got your credit card number.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, they do okay, well, ooh, okay, all right well. That's all right you can buy it for 50 cents. We'll talk about that later in the show. Okay, so talk about this awesome item this is. I actually told two people about it today before the show that I talked with as it was coming on in. So what is the name of this item? Where can we find it? Let's start out with that first.

Gwen Way:

All right. Well, we are back to Kickstarter again.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, you know.

Gwen Way:

I just love it. It's new stuff, it is new developers, it's ideas that aren't necessarily in the zeitgeist of the world yet, but I think a lot of them could be, and this is definitely one of them.

Nathan Mumm:

The Luna robot that I bought is now sold mainstream, and I bought it on Kickstarter, so when certain things come out here.

Mike Gorday:

It was actually one that you put money in and you actually got.

Nathan Mumm:

I actually got, so that is always the benefit of this. Yeah, that is correct. So just to say that there are stuff out there that becomes mainstream, and Kickstarter. I hope this one does too, but keep on going. Sorry about that. I'm so excited. You have too many monsters.

Gwen Way:

Understandable. Well, it's the monsters, but also it's the monster that you can have on your desk. So the device that we're looking at is called Louie, it's L-O-O-I and it's basically a way to turn the smartphones that we all have into a little robot on your desk.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, all right, you're not kidding me. It turns a robot friend on your desk from your phone.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, we all saw it, I know, so I'm really excited about it.

Nathan Mumm:

This is awesome, it is Okay. Okay, so I mean, you know what. I need as many friends as I can get, and these robots are essentially my friends here, so okay, so it's L-O-O-I. What does this do? How does this work? Tell us a little bit about it Then, how much it costs and then backers and how many days we have, but tell us how this works and what it does.

Gwen Way:

So it's basically a little armature that you can stick your phone on. It's made specifically with a magnetic ring, so for anybody who has an iPhone more recent than I believe it's the 12 when they started those you can just put your iPhone right on there. For anybody who is not an iPhone user or has a much older model, they actually give you a magnetic ring that you can put on the back of your phone so that it can still connect and kind of move this armature around. One of the cool things is not only does it give you an interactive toy, basically on your desk that can take pictures, play games, move around, give you alerts, whatever you need it to do it also charges your phone at the same time, so you're not even draining your battery.

Nathan Mumm:

So it charges your phone. So this is like an R2D unit. It's a small size that fits your phone. It has little. It's got these little wheels that it goes back and forth. You put your phone onto this little cradle that essentially makes this phone then become your personal robot.

Gwen Way:

Exactly, and it gives you. There's an app that is associated with it, obviously, the app allows you to play certain games. It gives it expression, so it pops up little eyes. You can give it a little scratch on the side of the phone, I guess and it'll give you hearts it can click into.

Nathan Mumm:

It can take your pictures too, like if you have, like, your loved one comes on in, you can give it like a little click on the phone and then it will take a picture. Exactly so it's like a selfie without being a selfie and does it fall off your desk. That's the key, okay.

Gwen Way:

It does not. It actually has a sensor that senses the edge of the desk. So while it might push oh I don't know say an orange off the desk, the device itself is not going to fall off, oh yeah, I don't think you mentioned that.

Mike Gorday:

it has little tracks and it actually runs around on your desk.

Nathan Mumm:

It runs around like a primary.

Mike Gorday:

It'll work around, yeah.

Gwen Way:

So if you get an email or a text message or have an event coming up that you've got a reminder for, it'll actually pop up on that to make sure that you're aware of what's going on.

Nathan Mumm:

It's got eyes on it and it looks like it's an actual robot man. This is sounds like this thing is. Sounds like it's $5,000, or maybe at least $1,000, because this thing sounds really, really cool.

Mike Gorday:

Are you going to go on late night TV and start selling stuff?

Nathan Mumm:

now. No, no, no, but this device is pretty cool. Okay, so we'll talk about how much it costs in a bit. I want to hide that. We're going to hide that. So how many backers do we have and how many more days can we sign up for it?

Gwen Way:

Okay, we have a ridiculous number of backers. Right now we're sitting at just under $1,200. They've brought in just under $160,000 out of a $5,000 goal, so it's clearly met goal by now. Okay, we have until April 12th, so everybody has plenty of time to your research and gather your funds together. Hop on here and back the project.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, so now this has got to be at least $500. Then If we're going to the Luna robot that I got, that was like $4.99 when it was all said and done and I have to charge it and it kind of gets in the way of my office.

Mike Gorday:

Well, yeah, you didn't mention it. I have a bunch of robots in my office. You didn't mention that this also can charge your phone.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, it can charge your phone. So I go to IKEA and if I buy a wireless charger for my phone, that's at least $50.

Mike Gorday:

That's at least $50. It's okay, right. We don't even know if it's going to actually make it to market you Okay, well, hang on.

Nathan Mumm:

So how much is this unit going?

Gwen Way:

to be then, Gwen. Well, right now, if you get in on the super early bird sale, you can actually pick it up for $120.

Nathan Mumm:

$120. You've got to be kidding me.

Gwen Way:

Nope, $120. You've also got 16 of those left.

Mike Gorday:

You're acting surprised that we watched you buy it last night for $120.

Nathan Mumm:

I did.

Gwen Way:

Right.

Nathan Mumm:

I did Okay, so there's still how many left available?

Gwen Way:

There's 16 left at that super early bird price.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't know if there would be a left, or it looks like we have about 1500 people watching our show right now. So if they all go to Kickstarter, I think they may be sold out. So what's the next price available? If they all sell out, what's the next one?

Gwen Way:

The next one up from the super early bird is actually it's another super early bird, it's a combo for $131. And then you can double it and get two of them for $233.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, there you go, did you get that one.

Nathan Mumm:

I did not. I only did the one, I only did the one.

Gwen Way:

Your wife's going to be disappointed. She doesn't get her own.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, no, maybe no. So I literally have more robots in my studio than most people have had in the past? Probably I do. I have at least. I was just going through all of them. I got like six.

Mike Gorday:

Six of them.

Nathan Mumm:

Six to six different versions. I got an R2D2 that I got from Disneyland, that I got a little remote and I got this and I got this and, yeah, I got a whole bunch of crazy crap that I have.

Gwen Way:

To be honest, six is a much lower number than I was expecting.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, okay Well, yeah, well, it's got seven.

Mike Gorday:

We're a little disappointed here, man.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, where's this company based? How many campaigns have they done? Is this going to be one of these fly by night people that take my money and then I have to get my credit card reimbursed later, at a later time?

Gwen Way:

So it is their first created Kickstarter. Okay, they're based out of Singapore, though, and most companies based out of Singapore have fairly good track records with Kickstarter. Okay, they are working with a bunch of the companies also that are pretty positive in terms of Kickstarter. They've got back her kit in there involved, and all of that, and also I want to mention one other thing for everybody Yep, you get a referral bonus.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh.

Gwen Way:

So Nathan may want to actually post his link if he gets it Okay. On the TechTime Facebook page.

Nathan Mumm:

I'll do that, I'll absolutely do that, so then you can click on it.

Gwen Way:

And you'll get a percent cash back from every referral.

Nathan Mumm:

I did not get that when I signed that up I did not see a referral thing in there, so I need to make sure I get that. I'll get that definitely on the post production of this out there.

Nathan Mumm:

So that sounds good. So this is a cool little robot. It sits on your desk, it's 110 bucks, 120 bucks. You put your phone into it. It charges your phone while it's been plugged in, so that's not draining the phone itself, which is literally a $50, $60 component within itself. Now how does this unit charge? Is there a dongle cable that it plugs into at night? How does this charge Gwen?

Gwen Way:

Yep, you can actually plug it in at night. It's pretty simple to do. It also has a certain amount of charging, where it's actually charging itself as it moves, which is also a bonus. But, yeah, plugging it in at night will give it enough charge. So basically, it's a battery pack as well.

Nathan Mumm:

It's a battery pack.

Gwen Way:

Charging it at night will give it enough charge to charge your phone, I believe, three times. Let me verify that, though really quickly.

Nathan Mumm:

And the name of this is L-O-O-I, so it's the Louie L-O-O-I Louie Smartphone Desktop Robot. So how many charges does it get? Two, three.

Gwen Way:

Three.

Nathan Mumm:

Three charges.

Gwen Way:

Okay, there you go Three charges and it looks like it should be ready to ship sometime around August.

Nathan Mumm:

There you go. So that means it'll be Christmas time, but that's okay, you can still get it for Christmas and have it ready to go. All right, gwen, it is so great to have you. We appreciate you each month for coming on our show. It's always a pleasure to talk to you about new items. Thank you for being a part of today's show.

Gwen Way:

Thank you All right.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, that ends our Gadgeting. All right, gwen, gwen, way. Up next we have this Week in Technology, so now it would be a great time to enjoy a little whiskey on the side, as we're going to be doing that during the break also. You're listening to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mum. We've seen it in a few minutes.

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Speaker 1:

And now let's look back at this Week in Technology.

Nathan Mumm:

Ah, there's that music Alright. March 11th 105. Paper is shown to the Emperor of China 105 BC or 105 BC.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, paper industry is launched. Essentially, chai Lun, a eunuch in service to the Emperor of China, shows the court his version of paper. Lun had been experimenting with the refining process for making paper that has been used for two centuries prior. His paper, perhaps, is the first to incorporate wood, and it becomes the base of Chinese paper industry, which eventually spreads to the rest of the world. A few hundred years later, this is also perhaps the earliest event in technology history we have recorded. Well, that was this weekend technology. It was pretty nice.

Mike Gorday:

The Egyptians used papyrus long before that.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, I think the idea of this is the incorporation of wood. So when I actually did some information on this, this idea was that they had the ability to soak the wood and then create the paper, and it was longer lasting, so it didn't disappear, compared to other organic methods that were used previously. I did a lot of research on this actually, so if you really want to grill me on it, let me know, because I ended up going down a rabbit trail for about 30 minutes on the internet.

Mike Gorday:

We don't even know about your rabbit trails. Okay, there we go.

Nathan Mumm:

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Speaker 1:

That's S-T-O-R-I-Coffeecom, the segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's Whiskey Mumble.

Marc Gregoire :

Welcome, welcome, welcome. All right, so today, march 12th, we are celebrating. We are celebrating. Now, our friend Jack would know what today is him being an HR. Uh, who is it HR? Hr Day, it's an HR day.

Mike Gorday:

No, I don't know, Just HR would know about it.

Marc Gregoire :

Um Jack should call in and tell us Diversity training. No, it is Equal Pay Day. Oh, look at that. Oh, that was smart. So let me tell you about Equal Pay Day.

Mike Gorday:

It is an annual observance that symbolizes the ongoing issues of pay disparity and the wage gap between men and women.

Marc Gregoire :

The date itself symbolizes how far it is from the end of the day. It symbolizes how far into the year women must work to make as much as men during the previous year. So the date fluctuates each year based on the current salary gap and the country. Unfortunately, most countries still have a wage gap between men and women.

Nathan Mumm:

That is. That is a shame.

Marc Gregoire :

It is.

Nathan Mumm:

Because if you do the job, you should get paid to do the job.

Speaker 4:

All right.

Nathan Mumm:

So bring us back up after that?

Marc Gregoire :

Well, no, that's not to bring more attention to Equal Pay Day. Let's talk about a woman that had a huge impact on the whiskey world.

Mike Gorday:

Okay.

Marc Gregoire :

Now Nathan, you had asked me in a previous episode about sour mash.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Marc Gregoire :

Do you remember that? Yeah, and it has nothing to do with it being sour. Okay, and I said I'm going to talk about it later. This is a perfect day to talk about it. So the sour mash fermentation process involves adding a portion of an older batch of mash to adjust the acidity of the new one, resulting in consistent and higher quality liquor. Think of it as a sourdough starter for baking bread, but for whiskey instead. Now, most bourbon and rice are made from the sour mash process, with few exceptions, such as Wilderness Trail or Peerless. The first sour mash recipe is credited to Catherine Spears Fry Carpenter. In 1818, the Catherine Carpenter Distillery produced this ground-breaking recipe, which became a key component in the production of whiskey, especially in the United States. Catherine's contribution to whiskey making history is truly noteworthy. Now we have a second sip today for our four roses barrel strength. Today we're drinking OBSO, but in the tiny glass that you have next to you is one we tried before. That is the formula OBSK.

Nathan Mumm:

OBSK, so OBSO.

Marc Gregoire :

Right. So the second letter B represents the high-ry mash bill. So they're both that. The last letter represents the yeast strain. So, as we discussed in episode 84, that's where we did the last version. It is fun to try and collect all 10 different versions because they have all 10 versions of these, so in how slightly they differ. So today we're comparing those two. They both offer that same mash bill and the only difference is the yeast strain. Let's see what Nathan and Mike think of these two similar whiskies.

Nathan Mumm:

You want us to taste the?

Marc Gregoire :

Yeah, go ahead and start tasting the two and you can see how just a simple thing as the particular yeast strain that somebody uses to make their bourbons can have an impact on the whisky, with everything else being relatively similar.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, I seem to recall. I don't think I like the previous one.

Nathan Mumm:

Did I like the previous one. You both gave it a thumbs up.

Marc Gregoire :

We both gave it a thumbs up.

Nathan Mumm:

You both enjoyed, I have notes on that one.

Marc Gregoire :

Yeah, you both enjoyed that one quite a bit.

Nathan Mumm:

Out of the two, this one's a lot easier to drink.

Mike Gorday:

This is way easier to drink.

Nathan Mumm:

What's the difference in the proof between the two?

Marc Gregoire :

The yeast. They're almost identical Really.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay. So I mean, if I'm going to get a hundred proof, Almost to the decimal point Wow. So I know this four roses, which was a pretty big bite at the beginning that I was going to give an immediate thumbs down to, is way smoother than the previous one that we tasted.

Marc Gregoire :

So that's really interesting. So you guys, like I said, you both gave that one as a thumbs down. Between the two, I've been having a harder time drinking this current bottle over the last one.

Speaker 5:

Really.

Marc Gregoire :

Yeah, I keep going back to the last one over this one. So for the two younger whisky drinkers, you prefer the OBSO because it's an I'll put air quotes easier drink. For those experienced whisky drinkers, that OBSK is phenomenal.

Mike Gorday:

There you go.

Marc Gregoire :

Much more depth and flavor.

Nathan Mumm:

Alright. Well, you know whisky and technology. It's a great pairing, just like cut and paste. I heard that from a friend of mine.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, control C and control V. It'll take care of it every time you are lazy.

Nathan Mumm:

Alright, let's get ready for our technology fail of the week, brought to you by Elite Executive Services technology experts to help you out of a technology fail. We are out of time. Congratulations, you're a failure.

Speaker 4:

Oh, I failed, Did I.

Speaker 8:

Yes, did I, yes, did I.

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, alright, speaking about this week's technology fail. How much does 50 cents buy you nowadays? Not a lot, not a lot. Back in the day, when I was growing up, 50 cents would buy you like a sticker's bar. That is not even close now.

Marc Gregoire :

It's like 197 or something like that Back in my days. The quarter.

Nathan Mumm:

You get a quarter for a candy bar.

Mike Gorday:

Back in my father's day, everything was a nickel.

Nathan Mumm:

So I used to go in. You had the bubblegum for five cents and you had the Jolly Rogers for a penny.

Mike Gorday:

My sister could go into the neighborhood store with 25 cents and come out with a bag of candy as big as her fist.

Nathan Mumm:

Really Alright. Well, just think of 50 cents what it can buy you today. Okay, because 50 cents is exactly how much it costs on the dark web to purchase credentials for any of the hacked Roku accounts. That happened this last week. Roku has disclosed a data breach impacting over 15,000 customers after a hacks, accounts were used to make fraudulent purchases of hardware and streaming subscriptions. However, the stolen accounts sell for less than 50 cents per account, allowing purchasers to use stored credit cards to make illegal purchases.

Nathan Mumm:

On Friday, roku disclosed the data breach, warning that 1,000 or 15,363 customers accounts were hacked in a credential stuffing attack. The credential stuffing attack, threat actors essentially got the accounts, would log in to the account itself, change the password, change the email and then would purchase either streaming movies to watch or hardware devices that you could purchase with the credit cards that were affected in the Roku account. Now Roku says it appears this breach was not as widespread as first reported. Of course is what they're gonna say, but there's a problem with Roku's essentially system that they have right now. Their platform does not support two factor authentication, which prevents hijacks and even the standard case of credentials to be compromised. So right now, roku accounts are worth 50 cents on the dark web. If you have 50 cents and a tour site, you can go and create an account, purchase people's usernames, logins, credit card information and start making this available.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, why are you seed planting right now?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, I'm not seed planting. What I'm saying is that Roku needs okay, I use a Roku TV at my house.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, but you're also one of these dark web cruisers, right Well yeah, so this is a national story that hit on out.

Nathan Mumm:

that will get more news, don't?

Mike Gorday:

go on the dark web and purchase anybody's information.

Nathan Mumm:

You shouldn't be on the dark web purchasing these accounts. But what I'm saying is most of these accounts. When we talk about these accounts getting compromised and available for purchase, nick Espinoza on our last show he said it was about $10,000 to $20,000 to purchase a whole database, but the purchase individuals' accounts within themselves are as low as 50 cents, 25 cents, sometimes a penny on a dollar to get these accounts with these users' passwords. So please use dual factor authentication and, roku, I love you, but figure out a way so that you have dual factor authentication so people do not lose their hardware devices.

Mike Gorday:

Did you know the smart TVs now are not allowing Roku interchangeability.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, they're not. I did not know because I just bought a Westinghouse just this last year and it has Roku.

Mike Gorday:

My new TV. I can't use a. Roku device on it.

Nathan Mumm:

You can't plug it in.

Mike Gorday:

No, it will not allow it. What does it say? The software is incompatible with it.

Nathan Mumm:

Really yeah. What type of TV did you buy? Sony?

Mike Gorday:

It was a Samsung, a smart TV.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, okay, all right. Well, you know what now? With all that great information, we now need to move to Mike's mesmerizing moment.

Mike Gorday:

I don't have to worry about Roku stealing my information there, you go, here you go.

Nathan Mumm:

This is Mike's mesmerizing moment presented by StoryCoffee. Visit StoryCoffeecom. All right, here's my question. We're gonna go back to your Airbnb story. Should the renter be allowed to view their guests on these cameras in common spaces not the bedroom, not the bathroom, common spaces, since it's their home?

Mike Gorday:

No.

Nathan Mumm:

Explain this to me, cause I'm kind of torn. Like I said, during your type of deal, explain why you don't think that they should have access.

Mike Gorday:

Because, first of all, if you're using your home for a business, that means your home is a product, okay. So you lose some ownership over that because you are allowing other people to use it, okay. The second piece is and I understand it because you don't want to rent your property out to people and have somebody trash it.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah.

Mike Gorday:

But that's the risk that you take, right? I don't see Lexis Nexis penalizing you for that risk?

Nathan Mumm:

No, that's true.

Mike Gorday:

So you're also ensuring privacy. You're invading privacy if you are monitoring what somebody is doing in a rental property that you are renting out to somebody else. And, like we talked about before I talk about this a lot of times it's not necessarily the technology that's the problem. It's the way that people abuse the technology that makes the problems for everybody else. Okay, can I ask a question on that? Yeah, what's that?

Marc Gregoire :

So I got a question. Number one that's a business. All businesses have cameras. So, being a product or a business, I would say more so it should be allowed to have cameras. And then number two is how is this an evasion of privacy if it's in a common area and you have to disclose that camera being in a common area before you, as a user?

Mike Gorday:

submit to that rental when you go to a hotel. Okay, are you dealing? That's exactly what I was going to say.

Marc Gregoire :

Hotels have security cameras in the common area?

Mike Gorday:

Yes, in the common area, absolutely, but not in the rooms. Those are common but public areas, those are not common privately. But if I own a business.

Nathan Mumm:

I can actually put a camera, not in the restrooms but, I, can put them in every single. I can have it watch my employees. If I'm at 7-Eleven, I have it down there making sure my employee doesn't take anything on the job. It's still a public area. Those are public areas, but that's my private business.

Mike Gorday:

It's your private business, it's on private property, but you're designating it as public areas. It's different than a common area. A common area is simply where people conglomerate to watch TV or something, but if you're renting out your house, your entire house becomes the motel room, and so they should feel free to be able to access those areas as if they were in a private area.

Nathan Mumm:

Let me ask you this how about outside area?

Marc Gregoire :

This is a division of private and public, because our building we are our business has cameras. You cannot, as a public, come in without us allowing you in. That's a private space, that's a business. So I don't see how that is any difference.

Nathan Mumm:

Is there a difference between outside of the facility?

Mike Gorday:

We're talking about allowing humans to be human. We're not talking about allowing customers to come in to buy products which they can steal, for instance, which means it's not a bad idea to have cameras. We're talking about you're allowing somebody to go into a space and be themselves in that private space. So there is an implication of security, a privacy in a B&B place.

Nathan Mumm:

This is your mesmerizing moment. I like the counterpoint here, because we all have different opinions.

Mike Gorday:

Part of it is opinion, but part of it is because the reason why Airbnb has done this is because they've been getting a lot of complaints about hidden cameras in bathrooms. Oh, that is absolutely.

Marc Gregoire :

I think we would agree on that. But changing the policy in public spaces doesn't change those people that have done wrong in hidden cameras. They're still gonna do that.

Nathan Mumm:

They're still gonna do that, they're just gonna do it on a micro SD card so that it doesn't hook up to a network, and then they'll just have it on their own.

Mike Gorday:

I think there's stuff in place that allows for somebody to do damage to it, that you can track down that person and get it covered. But, as you know, humans are humans in different places all the time anyway. So if it's a common area, that doesn't necessarily mean that people are not gonna be doing things that might be captured.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, let's go to our pick of the day here.

Speaker 1:

Ooh, pick of the day and now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings. Let's see what bubbles to the top.

Marc Gregoire :

Today we have been sipping on four roses, single barrel barrel strength, obso. So 10 years, four months straight bourbon from four roses, 111.4 proof, roughly $100.

Nathan Mumm:

I gave the other one a thumbs up. You did I have to give this. I think this is better.

Mike Gorday:

I don't think you have to give this, especially the way you made that phase when you first First time, it was bad.

Nathan Mumm:

But then you know every whiskey, when you just take it, not every whiskey.

Speaker 4:

I'm gonna give a thumbs up.

Mike Gorday:

I got a thumbs up too.

Nathan Mumm:

Thumbs up, two thumbs up.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, I got. I went back and tasted the second one, so it was good too it was good too.

Marc Gregoire :

Yeah, even though this isn't my favorite recipe, it's definitely still a thumbs up for me.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, we didn't get to the Nathan nugget. I was gonna talk about porn bots that are taking over. Twitter and SMS, but we'll talk about that next week.

Mike Gorday:

I thought you were gonna talk about geese, oh no, we already got through that one.

Nathan Mumm:

But you know what we really appreciate you guys' listeners. For all of you guys that are listening, we wanna hear from you. You gotta click on our techtimeradiocom and click that top right hand corner to be a caller. Leave us a voicemail message and we're gonna get back to you. We're excited to be here. Everybody's back in the studio. Remember the science of tomorrow starts with the technology of today. We'll see you next week.

Marc Gregoire :

Later Bye bye.

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