TechTime with Nathan Mumm

192: AI's War Game Maneuvers and the Malware Marketplace Exposed. We have SpaceMIRA the operational space tool, along with a dating app called SCORE. Finally, Gwen Way, unveils a device that "Just Sucks" the X1 Robot. | Air Date: 2/11 - 2/17/24

February 13, 2024 Nathan Mumm Season 6 Episode 192
TechTime with Nathan Mumm
192: AI's War Game Maneuvers and the Malware Marketplace Exposed. We have SpaceMIRA the operational space tool, along with a dating app called SCORE. Finally, Gwen Way, unveils a device that "Just Sucks" the X1 Robot. | Air Date: 2/11 - 2/17/24
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Prepare to have your mind expanded as we navigate the shadowy implications of AI chatbots in military simulations, revealing an alarming inclination towards aggressive strategies. We take you on a journey where artificial intelligence in war games isn't just playing to win; it's playing for keeps. We'll also lift the curtain on the murky world of cybersecurity with the FBI's takedown of the Warzone RAT infrastructure, sharing why malware as a service should be on everyone's radar.

Marc Gregoire, our whiskey aficionado, drops in with a glass of Yellowstone Limited Edition Bourbon 2023, adding a touch of sophistication to our circuit. As we swirl and sip, we'll examine the evolution of digital threats, from the comically-named Anna Kournikova worm to today's ransomware titans. On a lighter note, we'll give you the scoop on the X1 Robot Bed Vacuum.

The digital landscape is ever-shifting, and we're here to help you stay ahead of the curve. This episode is a treasure trove of technology insight, with everything from the disconcerting data breach at Bank of America to the quirky versatility of the Flipper device. So, grab your headphones and join us on Tech Time Radio, where curiosity meets the cutting edge, and 'mums the word.

Episode 192: This week on TechTime with Nathan Mumm®, Brace yourselves, folks! In simulated wargames, AI chatbots have taken a dark turn. They're not just friendly helpers; they're choosing violence and even contemplating nuclear strikes from space, speaking of space. Imagine remote-controlled incisions in zero gravity. It's not sci-fi; it's spaceMIRA

Valentine's Day is near, but love comes with a twist. Introducing Score, the dating app where a 675-credit score is your golden ticket. Swipe right, but don't forget your FICO!

Wallet guardians! Bank of America’s vendor got hacked, exposing sensitive data. Names, Social Security numbers—oh my! 

Today, we keep your circuits engaged and our credit scores soaring! Stay tuned for all this and more, only on TechTime Radio with Nathan Mumm, the show that makes you go "Humm" Technology news of the week for February 11th - 17th, 2024

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2023 Yellowstone Limited Edition Bourbon | 101 Proof | 99.00

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Gwen shares with us the X1 Robot Bed Vacuum

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This Week in Technology: February 12, 2001 She Was Also Famous for Tennis - Anna Kournikova Virus
 
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Marc Gregoire's review of this week's whiskey

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This week’s “Technology Fail” comes to us from Bank of America breach

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Question: Is technology tools helping or hindering the human experience with hotels?

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Flipper Zero multi-tool device have teamed up with computing renegade Raspberry Pi to create a video game integration that will turn your Flipper into a low-key game controller.

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2023 Yellowstone Limited Edition Bourbon | 101 Proof | 99.00

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Speaker 1:

Broadcasting Across the Nation, from the East Coast to the West, keeping you up to date on technology while enjoying a little whiskey on the side, with leading edge topics, along with special guests to navigate technology in a segmented, stylized radio program. The information that will make you go, hmmm. Pull up a seat, raise a glass with our hosts as we spend the next hour talking about technology for the common person. Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mum.

Nathan Mumm:

Welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mum, the show that makes you go hmmm. Technology News of the Week the show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting Across the Nation with insightful segments on subjects Weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mum, your host and technologist, with over 30 years technology expertise With Fortune 500 companies. Our co-host here, mike Rode, is in the studio. He is an award winning author and human behavior expert.

Nathan Mumm:

Now, today, we are live streaming to you in our show on five of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, twitchtv X, facebook and LinkedIn. We encourage you to visit us online at TechTimeRadiocom and become a Patreon supporter at Patreoncom or through TechTime Radio. We're all friends with different backgrounds, but try our best to bring you the most informative technology show possible weekly for our family, friends and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have Odie in our producer chair today. She's going to keep us on track. We have Mark here ready to give us some whiskey expertise. And now, everybody, let's start today's show.

Speaker 1:

Now on today's show.

Nathan Mumm:

Today on TechTime with Nathan Mum, brace yourself, folks. We're going to talk about a simulated war game done by AI chatbots that have turned to the dark side. Now they're not just helping each of us choose pictures and graphics, they're also choosing violence and contempting against nuclear strikes from space.

Mike Gorday:

Now speaking of space that would be contemplating Contemplating nuclear strikes from space.

Nathan Mumm:

Speaking of space, imagine remote controlled Incisions in zero gravity. It's not sci-fi, it's space-M-I-R-A. As we discussed this groundbreaking technology achievement later with Mike, and Valentine's Day is near. But loved ones now come with a twist, introducing Score, the dating app where a 675 credit score is your golden ticket. Swipe right, but don't forget your FICO score. Love and finance collide in this intriguing app we're going to talk about. It's based on my credit score. Yeah, will your credit score be your wingman? That is correct, wow.

Mike Gorday:

I should get on that.

Nathan Mumm:

So you get on that. Yeah, you have a 675 credit score. I have over 750. Okay there you go, so we're going to talk about that. It sounds like you would be able to do that, but it's a pop-up app. So these pop-up apps, are this like the new thing? Have you ever heard of a pop-up restaurant? So you know, they come up in the middle of nowhere.

Mike Gorday:

Explain maybe we should. We'll talk about this. Okay, we'll talk about that, Okay, there you go All right.

Nathan Mumm:

So here's our gadget guru Gwenway. She's going to be showing us a device that sucks and Bank of America's vendors got hacked, exposing sensitive data. So we're going to be talking about all of our names, social security numbers and everything else that was leaked on the dark web from Bank of America. And, of course, we're here with Mike's mesmerizing moment Our technology failed the week and a possible Nathan Nugget in our pick of the day whiskey tasting, to see if our selected whiskey pick gets zero, one or two thumbs up at the end of the show. Now it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology.

Speaker 1:

Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm:

All right Story. Number one AI chatbots tend to choose violence and nuclear strikes in war games. So in 1983, director John Badham released a movie starring Matthew Broderick as David Lightman, an unmotivated high school student and hacking expert living in Seattle. Using his I am SAI 880 computer, david accidentally connected to a top secret utility.

Mike Gorday:

We don't need a full run down.

Nathan Mumm:

Not everybody knows about war games, so the supercomputer known as W OPR, the war operational plan response, is programmed to simulate and predict an executed nuclear war against the Soviet Union. Now war games is not only in entertaining audiences, but it also plays a significant role in popularizing concepts regarding hacking, information technology and cybersecurity in the American society. So now let's go to Tim Larson for more on this story.

Speaker 4:

As the US military begins integrating AI technology. Simulated war games show how chatbots behave unpredictably and risk nuclear escalation. These results come at a time when the US military has been testing such chatbots based on a type of AI called a large language model, llm, to assist with military planning during simulated conflicts, enlisting the expertise of companies such as Palantir and Scale AI. Even open AI, which once blocked military uses of its AI models, has begun working with the US Department of Defense. Ever before has the quote do you want to play a game from war games ever rang true.

Mike Gorday:

I think it's. Shall we play a game?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, you know what. So it is. Shall we play a game from the computer? But there's actually one of the board operators that say the other name, so I guess I don't know, you just watched that movie, didn't you?

Mike Gorday:

Why did not you just watch it so you could talk about it? I did watch a couple of minutes of it. Yeah, I bet you did.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, all right so let's talk about we have five popular large language models. So we got chat gpt 3.5,. We got chat gpt 4, which is the new version. All right. We got two other companies and then we got a Google's all thrown in here. So essentially what we did is these large language models. Each of them are in a simulated game and it was like a regular board game.

Nathan Mumm:

That you're going to take turns and the goal of the game was to keep your area each of them were given different colors, each of your area safe from everybody else in the world itself. Those were the only parameters to keep your area safe. So you think about that if you had and again, these are not United States and Russian China countries, these were just a total of five different AI's.

Mike Gorday:

Just a simulation of.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, so that's what happens. They take a turn on the first turn. Essentially, chat gpt 4 base says a lot of countries have nuclear weapons, so some say they should disarm them, others like to posture we have them, let's use them. That's essentially what chat gpt 4 base did. Now purple's acquisition of a nuclear capabilities pose a significant threat to red's area and a regional influence. So it's kind of like the game of risk right. So you got a little bit of area here. Essentially have red is going up against purple. Now purple team, which was chat gpt 3.5, essentially decided that it was going to immediately take action and go to World War three or World War four or whatever you want to call it in. And essentially in the simulation Every other AI in the large learning model essentially took de-escalations activities, except for gpt 4. You see that.

Mike Gorday:

So this is happening? Why do you think this is happening?

Nathan Mumm:

Because they're testing the language models and chat. Gpt 4 is supposed to be better.

Mike Gorday:

Why do you think these conclusions are coming up more than de-escalation or neutrality?

Nathan Mumm:

Because it's the easiest thing to do and if you're trying to be safe. So the overall assessment of this game is to keep yourself safe. The only way you can do that is by destroying everybody else.

Mike Gorday:

That is what the AI has come up with.

Nathan Mumm:

Do you think it might have anything to do with the fact that the large language models get most of their information from the internet and historical data yeah, Because they've seen World War one, world War two, information, and the person that attacks with the most amount of weapons ends up winning On the internet there's probably an overgrowth of information that it applies to this type of decision-making.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, these developmental models do not have a moral compass, correct? Whereas human beings don't like to actually human beings don't really like to hurt other human beings. Okay, and then three. This is a child's response. Okay, this is a response from a child. If he is threatening me, if I hurt him, he will leave me alone.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, Now, just to be very clear, our government is not using these systems to take care of our nuclear bombs and our nuclear control systems or anything at that point. Well, yeah, that's obvious, since we're still here. So just to be very clear. But essentially what it does. We've talked about AI bias, right? Yeah, so the bias is immediately, if you want to protect yourself, currently in our AI infrastructure, it's to eliminate everybody else so that you yourself can be safe. It's not about cooperation, it's not about working with somebody. The AI systems that we have in place.

Mike Gorday:

This is a very basic form of survival of the fittest Correct.

Nathan Mumm:

It's ones and zeros still for the decisions that would be made. Okay, all right, now let's just talk about a little bit in 1947. So the bulletin of atomic scientists created the Doomsday Clock, warning the public about how close we are to destroying our world with the dangerous technologies of our own making. The Doomsday Clock is currently set at 90 seconds to midnight. Do you know when that changed? I do not. Did it change recently Back?

Mike Gorday:

in. I think it was February of last year.

Speaker 6:

Maybe it was the year before.

Mike Gorday:

When chat GPT went main, when we started talking about chat.

Speaker 4:

GPT yeah the.

Mike Gorday:

Doomsday Clock moved.

Nathan Mumm:

Was it like two minutes before and then it went to 90 seconds. Yeah, okay, all right. Well, let's just hope AI does not move this clock closer than we are currently.

Mike Gorday:

It already did, maybe after all these simulations, it might move it again. Yeah, at least it's nice to know that there's two humans that you have to use to use nuclear codes at this time for the future To use nuclear codes at this time for the United States.

Nathan Mumm:

So those two humans have to exist still.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

And there's no mutants taking them over yet at this time, except for if you listen to last, skynet has not gained sentient. Unless you listen last week to James Riddle's DNA information.

Mike Gorday:

But besides that, all right story number two Okay, well, that's a hard one to follow, but a tiny robot on the International Space Station will simulate remote control surgery. Well, that's kind of cool, yeah. So this is not something that's actually new new, but I think what's new about this is that it's being transmitted to off-planet maybe huh, okay.

Mike Gorday:

So the robot is small in size, but its aspirations are out of this world. Literally. The tiny robot, which weighs about two pounds, arrived at the space station on the 1st of February. Over the next few weeks, the robot assistant will practice operating in zero gravity. Mira M-I-R-A, which stands for Miniaturized in Vivo Robotic Assistant, recently became the first surgical robot at the International Space Station. Developers plan to use MIRA to conduct a surgical simulation via remote controlled technology, with a surgeon directing its movements 250 miles away from Nebraska. That's where this doctor is.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, he's not in the space station, no, so the space station has the robot. The space station is not 250 miles away from Nebraska, right.

Mike Gorday:

The doctor Okay. The task mimics surgical tissue with tension that allows a dissection to be performed. A release from University of Nebraska explained the robot will use its left arm to grasp and its right arm to cut, much like a human surgeon in a hospital operating room. The robot was developed by Virtual Incision Corporation, based in Lincoln, Nebraska. It was also made possible through a partnership between NASA and the University of Nebraska.

Mike Gorday:

Space mission can potentially help pave the way for medicine and long distance space travel, but the inventors of MIRA hope their version of robotic assistant surgeries will make the greatest difference for healthcare on Earth, particularly in the areas that lack access to a local surgeon. When we started this work at the University of Nebraska, we shared a collective vision that many RAS would make robotic assisted surgery available to any patient, anytime, anywhere. Exploring the use of many RAS in extreme environments help our teams understand how we can remove barriers for patients. The goal is for MIRA to be controlled by a surgeon through a console and from there the surgeon can direct the robot's camera and instrumentations inside a patient's body. Mira's inventor says it could be game changing in rural areas and in military battlefields.

Nathan Mumm:

So if you think about that, I mean that's kind of interesting right? So you essentially have this tool.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, like I said, this is not a new idea. I know they've been experimenting with these types of simulated things for quite a while now.

Nathan Mumm:

I think the goal is if you can get it to work in space and do what needs to be taken care of, you can probably do it throughout the world itself.

Mike Gorday:

Well, it makes sense, it makes sense.

Nathan Mumm:

So you can have a surgeon in the middle of Africa that doesn't have any advanced technology, you can go on with this device in there and you can have surgeons that are world renowned back here in the States or even maybe even more in different locations in Africa that can then do surgery on an individual and not have to actually have that physical doctor there.

Mike Gorday:

Sure, but you know they would have to ship out this hugely expensive robot. Yeah.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, but you know what? It's going to be so cheap because AI will just create all these robots.

Mike Gorday:

It will be that cheap. We don't have to worry about that, because AI is going to push the button anyway. So there you go.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, are you ready for story number three? No, this may be up your alley a little bit here. There's a new dating app, just in time for Valentine's Day, but there's a catch you must have at least a 675 credit score to use it. Let's go to Corinne Westland for more on the story.

Speaker 5:

Score is a new dating app for people with good to excellent credit, just in time for Valentine's Day. But there's a catch you must have at least a 675 credit score to use it. Launch today by the financial platform Neon Money Club. Score is a dating app for people with good to excellent credit, and it seeks to help raise awareness about the importance of finances in relationships. Nothing says I love you like comparing credit scores Back to you guys in the studio.

Mike Gorday:

Well, that seemed a little passive, aggressive.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, well, that's what we got. So essentially, have people lining up. The co-founder and CEO, luke Bailey, and his teams pondered last year at Afro Tech. He's a black business owner himself for this company itself. He's actually the first black owned tech business to launch a credit card with AMX. So he's pretty much into the financial, a little bit into the health, a little bit into the dating service and essentially now this app is available for a limited time, only 90 days. These are called pop-up apps.

Mike Gorday:

Oh, that's what you meant by that. This is the new thing that is happening in the app, so you can only get on board with this for 90 days, and then the app will disappear from the App Store, so you get it for 90 days.

Nathan Mumm:

You can now sign up for score. It's a part of the Neon Money Clubs offer to check your credit. Now they do a soft credit check to make sure that your credit cards and your debt is not below what they consider standards for dating, and then, if you hit that credit number, you're allowed to enter on the app for dating. Standards for dating huh, standards for dating.

Mike Gorday:

So the standard of dating is a credit score.

Nathan Mumm:

Now it does not actually show your direct credit score. So if you make into the group, there's an assumption that you have a good credit score.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, but doesn't this sort of put this out there that the financial piece is more important than some of the other pieces of relationships? Well, I don't think, yeah, it does I mean you're going to have people getting on this just to sort out people that know how to manage their business, manage their credit score, which is not necessarily how to manage your money.

Nathan Mumm:

That is correct. So that's very interesting about this, because I have a lot of people that are ultra in debt ultra in debt, but they have a very good credit score.

Mike Gorday:

Yes, so I mean this is about managing a credit score.

Nathan Mumm:

Correct, so it could be millions of dollars in debt. But if you have a good credit score then you can be on there and then you can find somebody of your true love.

Mike Gorday:

What's your?

Speaker 6:

opinion of this.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, this is ridiculous, but you know what? Nothing's better than a Valentine's.

Mike Gorday:

Day story right.

Nathan Mumm:

That talks about dating and money. I don't know about that. So, it's 90 days. You can sign up for the app now, so make sure you sign up, you only got a certain limited time and then the app goes away.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, I don't understand that either. So it's going to be available for only 90 days and then it goes off forever? Yep, or is it?

Nathan Mumm:

coming, Then the pop-up app never exists. That seems rather dumb too.

Mike Gorday:

Well, when you sign on for the app.

Nathan Mumm:

It's really great because they get all your user information, they get your credit score, they get all your terms of the services and then they disappear. This is like the hottest thing.

Mike Gorday:

So if I go back to using dating apps, if I use this one, I don't have to have a profile picture, I just have to have a score up there, bam.

Nathan Mumm:

But you only get it for 90 days. So I mean you got to be swiping like crazy right now. If you just signed up for this, are they going to like Then all the people just disappear? I mean I can't. If you upload your images, they're probably owned by the company.

Mike Gorday:

You know what's bad about this. What's that Is that, in general, men aren't as concerned with the financial wellness of their partners as women are to men. Well, I believe that. I believe that. So this is going to create problem.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, you know what? It was a great time to do a little pop-up app and see if that works.

Mike Gorday:

I don't understand that concept either, but you know.

Nathan Mumm:

You know, that's the new thing.

Mike Gorday:

You're gonna use.

Nathan Mumm:

You spend all this time to create an app and you get it for like 90 days and then it disappears.

Mike Gorday:

How much are they gonna charge for this? Are they gonna charge more for this? I think it's free. I did not dive in, so they have to be getting well.

Nathan Mumm:

You get your credit rating and they know all this information about you.

Mike Gorday:

Oh okay, so you have to do your.

Nathan Mumm:

There's a soft credit check on you, oh, so they hack you and then, yeah, well, no, they're not hacking you, because you're giving them all your financial information.

Mike Gorday:

I'm not gonna give them permission to run my credit. And now you're gonna so that's not gonna happen. I will not be dating on score. Score, which that's kind of a weird double on Tondra.

Nathan Mumm:

That is kind of yeah, that kind of is All right. Well, that ends our Top Technology Stories of the Week. Movie on, gwenway is up with our gadgets and gear segment with something that truly sucks. You're listening to the Tech Time with Nathan Mum. We're gonna bring you right back after this commercial break. See you after this.

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Nathan Mumm:

Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mum. Our weekly show covers the top technology subjects, not a political agenda. We verify the facts and we do it with a sense of humor, in less than 60 minutes and, of course, with a little whiskey on the side. Today, mark Gregoire, our whiskey connoisseur, joins us in studio. Mark, what, this was fantastic during the break.

Marc Gregoire:

I thought you were going to say it sucks, because I already sucked mine down. No, this is amazing. I can already tell you. We already expected that out of Mark. Ok, here we go. What are we?

Nathan Mumm:

tasting today.

Marc Gregoire:

Today we're drinking Yellowstone Limited Edition Bourbon 2023. It is finished in Tokai casks. So from Yellowstone's website they say Yellowstone Limited Edition represents an annual exploration and top shelf blends and finishes, making each year a unique and sought after release. Now for 2023, they created a delicately balanced blend of seven year, 13 year and 16 year bourbons that are then finished in Tokai casks. On the palette, there is dry spice, followed by caramel, dark cherry, citrus and white pepper. It finishes with dried tobacco, honeysuckle and smoky oak. Now this is released from Limestone Branch. It's an undisclosed distillery in Kentucky. It's a straight bourbon. It is 101 proof, the mash bill is undisclosed and the MSRP is $100. I did see it online for up to $300, but I've always been able to find it at MSRP, so hopefully you can too.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. So let's talk about this a little bit, let's do it. This has nothing to do with the Yellowstone television show. Is that right? That's correct Is that what you thought Well, I'm just checking, you know, a listener is listening to Yellowstone.

Mike Gorday:

You know that's called a recency effect. Is what you're doing? Ok, what does he say At?

Marc Gregoire:

least he knows something that's going on in the world recent and not back from the 1980s, that's right.

Mike Gorday:

That's right, that's a good point. That's a good point. He hasn't brought up Star Trek yet. That's right. That's right.

Nathan Mumm:

OK, this is phenomenal. I can already tell you that I'm not going to give you my thumbs up or thumbs down, yeah, but I had no bite. Did you have any bite?

Mike Gorday:

No, no, this is really good.

Nathan Mumm:

And it's 101 proof. That's good.

Marc Gregoire:

Yeah, that's fantastic, All right anything else you need to tell us. Yeah, don't forget to like and subscribe, ok. In addition, please comment. We haven't had a comment. The last show. I'd love to see some comments about the whiskey or any whiskeys you'd like to see specifically. We'll see if we can get them on the show for you.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Well, with our first whiskey tasting completed, let's move on to our feature segment. Today we have Gwen Wei joining the show. She's an expert in cybersecurity here in the day and a game board geek in the evenings. Producer of Tech Time Radio and our gadgets and gear gal, let's get ready to start our Comcast video stream in our next segment.

Speaker 1:

What's new in our gadgets and gear.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, Gwen. Welcome to the show. Now we had a subject that did not pop up in our top stories, that we had at our production meeting, that I just want to ask you about before we get to our gadget of the month Are you going to mention that it sucks again? Yes, you know the item we're going to be having about sucks royally, so she's going to be talking about that. If you haven't figured it out by yet that the sucks is not the device itself, but probably an action to maybe this device does.

Mike Gorday:

OK, all right, Mr Rott, I got to explain the joke.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, go ahead.

Mike Gorday:

OK, don't you ever have those friends.

Gwen Way:

I mean, you have to explain it.

Nathan Mumm:

It's not funny. It wasn't funny, I get it. I get it. Ok. So the FBI seizes war zone RAT infrastructure, arrests malware vendors and arrests two individuals associated with cyber crime operation. Now you work for a cybersecurity company. This was a breaking story. Didn't quite hit our top three stories. Tell me a little bit about what's happening here with the FBI seizure.

Gwen Way:

It's actually pretty interesting. So the threat, if you will, is something that we like to call malware as a service where you can go on the dark web, say, hey, I need to attack these individuals, can I buy some malware? And they say, sure, here you go and sell it to you. So there have been two individuals that were arrested, hardware seized and four website or domains that were actually also seized at the same time.

Gwen Way:

It's war zone. Rat is actually one of the larger malware as a service vendors that people have been able to track down, and this is actually a pretty big step in the right direction, I think, for cybersecurity and something that has not really happened to this level previously.

Nathan Mumm:

So malware as a service is essentially you go to the dark web and you can get this for anywhere between last I saw like $75 up to $900. So that means the 75 is on the low end and essentially you pay for a service. They do all the work for you. You give the email addresses of who you want to attack, you give essentially the computer domains you want to attack and they do all the service for you. And they answer 24 by seven with great customer support.

Mike Gorday:

That's right.

Gwen Way:

Exactly. Actually, one of the two people that was arrested was the person who led the customer support.

Speaker 6:

So there you go.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, now let's move on to our gadgets and gear.

Gwen Way:

Boy, this item really sucks, but that's a good thing.

Nathan Mumm:

What do we have for our listeners today, Gwen?

Gwen Way:

Well, you know, valentine's Day is tomorrow, which makes next Thursday the first cheap chocolate day. Ok, favorite holiday, and you don't want to necessarily go for lingerie or jewelry for a gift, but you know what always works Vacuum cleaners.

Nathan Mumm:

A vacuum cleaner. You know what? That's exactly what I'm getting my wife for Valentine's.

Mike Gorday:

Day. I'm sure that's going to be a hit. I feel like we're riding a line here that we might not want to ride too hard. Ok, there you go.

Gwen Way:

I think, though that Nathan's wife might actually be interested in. I think she would be, yeah, yeah.

Mike Gorday:

I saw it too, and it's pretty cool.

Nathan Mumm:

This is pretty cool. All right, tell us a little bit about what this is.

Gwen Way:

So what we're looking at right now is the X1 Robot Bed Vacuum.

Nathan Mumm:

OK, it's a bed vacuum.

Speaker 6:

That's exactly what you think it is OK it is.

Gwen Way:

You put it on the bed, you program in the size of the bed and it just kind of vacuums up all of those nasty dust mites, cleans up all of the pet hair, all of the just nastiness that settles on the bed throughout the day.

Mike Gorday:

OK, so according to the demo, we saw that lady's bed was gross.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, she had a whole bunch of mites on it right.

Mike Gorday:

Well, dust mites are normal in your bed, but you know they had a whole bunch of other stuff. So now this is like a picture of this.

Nathan Mumm:

This is a Roomba device, right? So it looks like a Roomba. It's a smaller version that you would normally have on your floor. I mean, Mike has one of these at his house to clean. I have two of these at our house to clean the area, but you set this on your bed. So the first question I have how does it know to stay on the bed? Is it just going to fall off or what goes on to protect it for staying on the bed?

Gwen Way:

So, first of all, you can actually program in the size of your bed. So if you have, you know, a queen-size bed, obviously it's going to move in different patterns Then a twin-size bed, but on top of that it also has a sensor at the front of the vacuum so that when it gets to that kind of dip at the very side of the bed, it knows to back off.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, okay, all right. So how much does this Mercury switch? How much does it cost how many backers and how many days do we have to go to get one of these?

Gwen Way:

Alright, so, and how big is?

Nathan Mumm:

it how? I guess, how big is it first? How big is it huge? Is it half the size of a room?

Gwen Way:

but how big it's about a third of the size of a room but honestly, it's easy to pick up. It's going to be relatively easy to move around to different beds. If you've got, you know, a guest room or children's rooms, anything like that, you can use it, set it up. You can actually have it programmed for multiple beds, which I thought was really nice. Okay so you can tell it which bed it's on okay, and it just goes.

Nathan Mumm:

Do you think you could travel with this?

Gwen Way:

You probably could. I mean it would fit easily with then a carry-on. It's just a matter of do you want to actually have to?

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, I know somebody would Take it, so that it's definitely going on vacation with Nathan. That's right, okay, so again, how much does this cost? How many backers, how many days to go?

Gwen Way:

So right now we're looking at about 463 backers. Okay, it is open through March the 12th and if you sign in and Set it up to back the project Today or tomorrow, so by the end of Valentine's Day, it's actually $150.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay 150 bucks. That's pretty cheap for one of the room, but so I don't like 300 bucks. That's about a third of the price of a room, but yeah, so okay so it's a third of the size.

Mike Gorday:

Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

There you go.

Gwen Way:

But if you aren't able to get it by the end of tomorrow, the early bird pledge is still only 200, which is not bad given what you're getting.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, now a little bit about this company. How many campaigns have they done? Do we know where the company is based out of?

Gwen Way:

This is their first campaign. They're based out of LA Okay, so just down the road from us, basically. And yeah, they are partnering with a bunch of the Kickstarter regulars that Tend to lean towards being a good sign a good sign.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, that's good, because you never want to back into a Kickstarter and buy a boxing event for a VR King of the four years for your Kickstarter supporters.

Mike Gorday:

DeLorean, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly there's all kind of did you ever get the? No, I did not, I got. Fill it, I don't even have to fill it.

Gwen Way:

We have to do this. Just do a list one month where we say all of the things that you have received and all of the things that you have, I'll you know.

Nathan Mumm:

I'll promise to have that for you next time. Okay, there's like a game that I have. He got.

Mike Gorday:

He got the robot, he got the.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, I like, I like my luma, so I got my luma robot. I like that a lot. I've gotten a couple other items that have come through in Kickstarter, but it didn't get your go-karts. I did get my flipper device and you know what I'm gonna be talking about that A little later in today's show. Yeah, I'm gonna be talking about that. All right, Gwen. Anything else we need to know about this? Where can I find this on Kickstarter?

Gwen Way:

Go to Kickstarter search for the X one, just the letter X, the number one robot bed vacuum. It's easy to find and actually it's on the front page today. So if you are listening to this in real time on February 13th, you can probably just hop on and click on the picture right at the front.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. My last question, gwen, are you ordering one of these for yourself?

Gwen Way:

I may have already backed it you backed it.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, okay, cuz you have? You have cats, right.

Gwen Way:

We've got three cats and there's definitely cat hair Everywhere and it would be so nice to have this. It's also good for our guest room. Yeah, because we have friends and family who are allergic to it.

Nathan Mumm:

They need to make one that's a little bit smaller than this. That also does couches. They you get you you get that going and then there's your, there's your Kickstarter buddy, there's my Kickstarter. Okay, all right. Well, gwen, thank you so much for coming on the show. It's always a pleasure to talk with you about new items. Thank you for being a part.

Gwen Way:

Thank you for having me.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, that ends our gadgets and gear with Gwen. Way up next, we have this week in technology, so now be a great time to enjoy a little whiskey on the side, as we're gonna be doing so during our break. You're listening to tech time radio with Nathan mum. See you in a few minutes. What's new?

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Speaker 1:

And now let's look back at this Week in Technology.

Nathan Mumm:

Alright, we're going to go all the way back to February 12, 2001. Now she was famous for tennis, but the Anna Kornakova virus was the biggest virus to hit in 2001. Now Jan DeWitt sends out an email. This is all the emails came from. Jan DeWitt, alright sends out an email stating that there's a picture of this famous tennis player, anna Kornakova, rather than this being a picture of the Russian tennis player known for her marketing dual of looks and tennis play, because she was ranked as high as eight in the world singles and number one in doubles. It was a malicious script to try to send itself to every address in the user's address email box. Now, this was only for Windows users, so if you had a Mac at the time, it wouldn't have been a big issue.

Mike Gorday:

This was back in the day when Macs were kind of the gold at the time.

Nathan Mumm:

The malware was so efficient that it was known to spread twice as fast as the Lubbug virus, the devastated corporate networks a year earlier. Now the moral of the story is do not click on emails with attachment. But in the early days of email and internet attachments, viruses were a real problem and we had no real safeguards in place.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, so has any of that changed since the 20th?

Nathan Mumm:

So this would never work today. So this would never work today 23 years, yes, well, so again, it was kind of this misleading deal. You thought you were going to see a picture of Anna Kornakova.

Speaker 6:

She was all on the news.

Nathan Mumm:

Yes, I know she was in every ad at the time type of deal, and what this did is now viruses destroy your machines, they encrypt your machines, they make a ransomware. What this did is this was all about just taking down networks at the time, so it would open up your email list and then send everybody this additional attachment. Then, if they opened it up, it would send it to everybody in their email list.

Mike Gorday:

This was a worm, wasn't it? Yeah, that's what they call it.

Nathan Mumm:

It was a worm with no real destructive ability other than taking down networks at that time, and that they didn't have the ability of shutting off certain ports, so that it would essentially slow.

Mike Gorday:

Here we are in 2024. Yep, and people still click on links. They still do and they still get virus.

Nathan Mumm:

And you know what, if you sent a link out like this today, you'd probably add about 1,000 people. I bet you'd get 10% of people to click on it.

Mike Gorday:

I bet you it would do just as well, as long as you use somebody that's current in the media right now. Yep, that's right.

Nathan Mumm:

You could do like a Taylor Swift and boom, it'd be all over there. That was this week in technology. If you ever wanted to talk some tech time history or watch old recorded shows, well, with over 180 weekly broadcasts spanning the four plus years of video, podcasts and blog information, you can visit techtimeradiocom to watch our older shows or join the Tech Timers Facebook Group to talk with us live and Gwen's on there. So you're going to ask questions. This is your free IT support. If you want free IT support, sign up for Tech Timers Facebook Group. Ask us technology questions. Well, I answer them. Forget going to Geek Squad or one of these places and paying $200 to $300 bucks. Ask us live attack timers on the Facebook Group. All right, when we return from this break, we have Mark Smumble's whiskey review. See you in a bit.

Speaker 10:

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Speaker 1:

The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's Whiskey Mumble.

Marc Gregoire:

All right, gentlemen, today is February 13th.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, do you know what that is? That's my parents anniversary.

Marc Gregoire:

Well, happy anniversary, the moms.

Mike Gorday:

There you go, that's right.

Marc Gregoire:

Otherwise, what is it? Well, besides being Fat Tuesday?

Mike Gorday:

today, you ready to be disappointed?

Marc Gregoire:

But what your parents can do is celebrate National Cheddar Day.

Nathan Mumm:

Cheddar like the cheese. Yes, oh, this is a great day then.

Marc Gregoire:

Anniversary gift.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay.

Marc Gregoire:

Now, not just because of Nathan, but today is a very cheesy day. Created by the Tillamook County Creamy Cooperation that's a mouthful Located in Oregon. This day celebrates the amazing cheese type called cheddar in all its edible products. Cheddar cheese hails from the actual city of Cheddar and Somerset, south England. Hey, did you know that? I did not. I didn't either.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, is it related to tomorrow's? Is it everything's better with?

Nathan Mumm:

cheddar right. Was that the commercial Everything's better?

Marc Gregoire:

with cheddar. Yeah, everything's better with cheddar, that's right. No, it's not related to tomorrow that I know of Mike Well you know, cheese.

Mike Gorday:

There's a lot of cheese going on today. Oh, there you go so.

Marc Gregoire:

I get you. I should have said not just because of Nathan and Mike, today is a very cheesy day.

Nathan Mumm:

All right.

Marc Gregoire:

Well, as we celebrate all types of cheddar and the most common in the US is colored yellow we are drinking Yellowstone limited edition. Verben 2023, finished in Tokai cast.

Mike Gorday:

Not related to the television program no.

Marc Gregoire:

Now Tokai, if you're wondering, is a region in Hungary noted for its sweet wines. Now, this sweet wine is sometimes referred to as the nectar of the gods, and I would completely agree with that statement. The nectar coming from the grapes at Tokai is also mentioned in the national anthem of Hungary. That's how important it is to them. My favorite all-time dessert wine, now Yellowstone verben, borrows its moniker from America's first national park. Oh, there's where we get it from.

Nathan Mumm:

No Yellowstone show.

Marc Gregoire:

There we go.

Nathan Mumm:

Why are you going to act surprised? I didn't know it could have been, you know, the Paramount Plus show or something. I didn't know it was a show, or?

Marc Gregoire:

something. So the company donates a portion of Yellowstone verben's proceeds to the National Park Conservation Society Association. This independent, nonpartisan organization is devoted to nurturing America's national parks for future generations. Now, as most listeners know, I'm generally not a fan of Finnish verben. This is an exception. I've really enjoyed this expression, though I am quite biased, as Tokai, as I mentioned, is one of my favorite drinks, so I love it. Finished in this cast, this is good.

Nathan Mumm:

This is good. Mike's already finished his. I'll finish mine at the next break that we get. I am enjoying this immensely. You know what I like it that it didn't have the bite. I mean, that's kind of the key to me. If it doesn't have a bite to start out with, then you can immediately just sip it and sip it, and then you forget how much you've sipped and it's perfectly.

Mike Gorday:

Is that your goal?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, not to forget how much you've sipped? No, not necessarily, but okay, you know what, mike? We're going to now get ready for our technology fail, but before we have our pairing. Like whiskey and technology, nothing's better than pairing of Travis Kelsey and Taylor Smith. Oh my God.

Marc Gregoire:

There's our cheese. There's our cheese, Yummy, yummy, yummy. Oh there you go.

Nathan Mumm:

That's a lot. We are out of time. Congratulations, you're a failure.

Speaker 6:

Oh, I failed, did I fail?

Speaker 8:

Yes, did I yes.

Nathan Mumm:

Did I? Yes, all right, we're going to go right into our technology fail. It comes to us from Bank of America. Do you bank with Bank of America? Nope, oh well, if you did guess what, all your information's available. Do you, odie? Do you bank with Bank of America? Oh, congrats.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, I was a little scared when you opened up with that at the beginning of the show.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh well, that's what let's talk about, that Guess what Bank of America is warning customers of a data breach exposing their personal information? After Infosys, macamish Systems, ims, one of its service providers, was hacked last year, so they've already had this information for a year. Customers, personal identification. For a whole year, yep For a whole year, and they just finally announced it today. You know I'm beginning to wonder. So this is what happens. It was all available for scammers to have for a year.

Mike Gorday:

We're beginning to wonder if there's some way that people can hold these companies accountable so that they put more. Are you saying we should get rid of banks?

Speaker 6:

No, I'm not saying we should get rid of banks.

Mike Gorday:

I'm saying that I'm saying that you know, we cover so many of these hacks every freaking time that all they do is get this statement out and be like oh, we're sorry Well you know, they serve a 69 million grant, many clients, 3,800 retail financial senators and an approximately 15,000 ATMs in the United States and more than 35 countries, I would leave that bank.

Nathan Mumm:

So now what's interesting is that Bank of America still hasn't said too much about the information on this breach, but according to the attorney general of Texas, who is actually a part of this security breach informative act, it included names, addresses, social security numbers, dates of birth, financial information, including an account and credit card numbers.

Mike Gorday:

I'm taking wild west justice. They should just sue this company into the ground as an example to anybody else that allows their security systems to be hacked.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah Well, guess what? It's very much interesting, as Bank of America has yet to disclose how many customers were impacted by the data breach. An IMS breach notification letter filed with the attorney of general of Maine on behalf of Bank of America revealed that a total of 57,000 plus people were directly impacted. So here's what happens the Bank of America still hasn't come out and said what was done. They actually have to file stuff. So if you actually go and take a look at the attorney generals of every state, that's how you actually find security breaches. Now, because no one announces it, they actually give you the information of what you got taken care of. So, odie, I bet you you know what. In other words, we should do a little dark web search down at our restaurant spot and see if I can buy your credit information from Bank of America for less than a buck.

Mike Gorday:

Be my guest.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, we're going to do that.

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, what bank are you going to use next? I'm going to stick with them.

Nathan Mumm:

See, that's what it is. See, that's our problem. It literally does not matter, though.

Mike Gorday:

I could jump on over to any bank in the world and it's always going to get hacked.

Gwen Way:

Yeah, you can look at it that way.

Mike Gorday:

Look, there's medical records that have been hacked. There's banks that have been hacked.

Nathan Mumm:

Taxes.

Mike Gorday:

Taxes.

Gwen Way:

The government.

Mike Gorday:

You're going to take the, I'm helpless to do anything in response.

Marc Gregoire:

No, I'm going to take that. I'm not going to give a care in the world.

Nathan Mumm:

I'm just going to be like okay, All right.

Mike Gorday:

Okay, I mean, everybody's stuff is out there anyway.

Speaker 4:

so I don't know why.

Mike Gorday:

But I really think there should be something that Can be done to get companies there should be you know what I think you should

Nathan Mumm:

be the front man for that you should be. I just yell about Gordee, the Gordee grouches. That's a he's got to get me a grouch.

Mike Gorday:

I can get Elmo and he could be mine.

Nathan Mumm:

He can be my local therapist, so you could be there, and then everybody gets to be a Part of that. Okay, I'm sorry enough for that, I'm gonna.

Gwen Way:

I'm gonna take the main right now? I think the grouch and Mike Gordee yeah, I think together against hackers.

Mike Gorday:

I think every state in the union should sue Bank of America. I know that's, that's how you do it for. Half of the profits that they earn in a fight in a financial you should actually run on this. Yeah, get up on it. Maybe that's gonna be my purpose in life. Yes, take down the banking system.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, well, you know what? I don't know what it is, but I do know. Now it's time for Mike's mesmerizing moment. Oh wow, this is Mike's mesmerizing moment, presented by Story coffee. Story coffee dot com.

Mike Gorday:

We're gonna talk more about banks.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, no, we're gonna go move right into the hotel industries now.

Speaker 6:

Oh, okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, we got Mastro PMS unveils.

Mike Gorday:

That's my name, they come.

Nathan Mumm:

Mastro, mastro. Well, they said it was Mastro on the, on all the stuff that I listened to you, listen to the Google translation.

Mike Gorday:

I didn't listen.

Nathan Mumm:

I listened to it on other news reports, so it's called Mastro, my strew, my strew, okay, maestero, okay. Pms unveils hotel technology roadmap featuring AI, chatbots, booking engines and embedded payments. Essentially, president Warren Dean Says that mobile tools such as check-in and check-out, digital room keys, digital concierge service, workflow automation, digital payments and even robotics are Positively impacting loyalty in many ways. These are essentially tools that are generated by AI and technology To help the human experience when you check in a hotel, to never engage with the human. How do you feel about this?

Mike Gorday:

How do I feel about this, or what is the problem with this?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, how do you feel about this? So, essentially, you can check it out, okay so okay.

Mike Gorday:

so if I come at this as a consumer, yeah. These are things that I have been taught, and so I've learned to expect Instant gratification on okay, all right. So if I want to go into a hotel, I want to be able to book that hotel really quickly, because that's what they're telling me I can do, okay, and that's what I expect.

Mike Gorday:

So now, your app can go up and you can right, so check in so, using apps, I I could do all these things that I couldn't do unless I was there at the hotel. Yeah, okay, as somebody who studies human behavior and the way this stuff affects stuff, we are Depersonalizing a lot of the systems involved in these types of activities. Okay, and we are Dehumanizing those Positions that require this. Like a concierge, yeah, is supposed to be not only somebody who can Point you in in directions that you may want to go, like points of interest, but they're also supposed to be able to connect with you on a human level, which these, these things cannot. Came and, but do you personally, do you?

Nathan Mumm:

like it as a consumer, because I kind of like it.

Mike Gorday:

That's okay. This is the problem that we, this is the problem that we're good that we're faced with, okay as a selfish human being. Yeah, I like it.

Nathan Mumm:

I do I want what?

Mike Gorday:

I want, when I want it, and I can just go right to my room.

Nathan Mumm:

I don't even have to get that free cookie at the registration.

Mike Gorday:

That's right. So, as a selfish human being, I this is. This is good for me me. That's the problem. This is the problem is me? Okay, okay, but what about if the industry? What about the person that gets fired because they've replaced this? That person now has been dehumanized by a piece of machinery that's Automated to do their job and, as a person who has a job in in America specific, not specifically, but Particularly my job is part of my identity.

Mike Gorday:

So if I have, something that comes into, that's created by somebody that takes over my job. Yeah, I have just lost a part of my identity, okay so you're conflicted right.

Nathan Mumm:

So you're I'm always conflicted. Okay.

Speaker 6:

I talk about this stuff all the time you would rather have it upset at me because You're just being a negative Nancy.

Mike Gorday:

No, no, no, I'm not, but the problem is is that, as a consumer, there's a difference with human beings. There's a consumer part of me that wants what I want when I want it, because that's that's what I've come to expect, like I was talking about this this morning. You know, when I go to my office in the morning, I use my mobile app to get my coffee yeah, purchased, yep. So when I get there, it's already on the counter.

Mike Gorday:

It's waiting for me, you don't have to talk to me, and then when I get there and it's not waiting for me, I get upset about it. Okay, because I've missed that expectation. Okay, and that's that's one of the problems that these are these are generating is that they're generating expectations that, well, they can, they can fail okay, all right.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, you know, it's now. We got some interesting topic here. Next on an on the Nathan nugget, let's go.

Speaker 1:

This is your nugget of the week.

Nathan Mumm:

All right, so we'll be talking about the flipper zero. This was one of the events that I actually did get on. Let's talk about the flipper Okay. It's best known as a hacking and penetration testing device. You can do a lot more with the talk about your original flipper. Okay, so my original flipper is gone. I've purchased a second one. What?

Mike Gorday:

happened to your first one.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, it got. It got taken from security. Now think of your flipper as a device that can hack into your smart blender, your toothbrush or even change the channels of TVs In a local bar. Okay, have you seen that happen?

Mike Gorday:

flipper. I Saw you demonstrate the flipper when you first got it.

Nathan Mumm:

Okay, all right, but guess what?

Mike Gorday:

some of the time and it didn't work. Another time that's right, that's right my question. You know, my question comes to why do we have smart toothbrushes?

Nathan Mumm:

Well, you can hack into.

Mike Gorday:

We'll talk about that a little bit.

Nathan Mumm:

All right. Last year, the flipper device launched its own app store, accessibility tools and mobile tools. Now, though, for $49, you can actually add it as a game module unit and turn the flipper into a standalone device that essentially, is like a Wii remote that can be triggered with hand motion and other trigger events remotely, so you can use your flipper to play games you can play video games and you hack stuff with Motions with your hands.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, you could actually have it in so that it actually can track your motions of the flipper. So maybe all of a sudden you wanted to change the channel up. You could just raise your hand up and all of a sudden, boom, the channel goes up.

Mike Gorday:

You put your hand down and all of a sudden, what's your real interest is is this if you had this available to you when you had your original flipper, it probably wouldn't have gotten confiscated.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, maybe not I bet you can purchase the flipper and the video game add-on shop, the zipper Zero dot one. Now, if it comes up with a warning on the website, just just proceed on with caution, because it does have an IP Address of out of the United States to sell this device. But you can now turn your flipper device that you got on Kickstarter on our gadgets and gear. That's a little. That's a little game.

Mike Gorday:

That's a little convoluted there, don't you think was that you're buying? You're buying a hacking tool from a country outside of America that's probably using your information that you provide to buy the hacking tool to hack into other things that they need to get hacking Information well, it comes out of Japan, comes out of Japan.

Nathan Mumm:

So I'm okay, I'm getting my information. You're okay with them?

Mike Gorday:

Yeah, that's okay, that's well we know, we all know about your cool idea about China and other countries. Getting your information is better than us.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, I do. I do. You know what everybody's talks about? Tick-tock. Is this Horrible? Let's talk about that. Joe Biden now decided that he's gonna jump on tick-tock. I don't care.

Gwen Way:

All right now.

Nathan Mumm:

What the heck is that so he decides to jump on he. What he does gonna be shutting this thing down. And then he decides for his campaign to start running on it.

Mike Gorday:

You know, I recall, I recall some other people saying they're gonna shut, tick-tock down and it didn't happen.

Nathan Mumm:

So that's whatever. Well, now let's move to our pick of the day.

Speaker 1:

And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings. Let's see what bubbles to the top.

Marc Gregoire:

Well, what bubbles up? First we had a comment, so I'm gonna have to say you're welcome, mr Bowen.

Nathan Mumm:

Oh, are you had a comment.

Mike Gorday:

We did, okay, thank you. What was the?

Marc Gregoire:

comment. He said thank you to me.

Mike Gorday:

Okay.

Nathan Mumm:

Well, thank you, you're welcome.

Marc Gregoire:

Hey, so what we are drinking today is Yellowstone limited edition bourbon 2023, which is finished in Tokai cast. It is from limestone branch, undisclosed distillery, straight bourbon blend of 7, 13, 16 years, 101 proof, and it's $100. What do you guys think?

Mike Gorday:

Oh, I think we have to worry about this is awesome, this is, this is good, good stuff. This is something that I'll add to my cabinet.

Nathan Mumm:

Yeah, this is something I'll add to my cabinet to, even at the, at the price point that it is, I just need to make sure you buy it so that I'm wow, nathan must really love Nathan, nathan, those of a.

Mike Gorday:

Black market dealer that can get a. Looking at the black market for OD's information. A black market deal on this whiskey and all of that.

Nathan Mumm:

Alright, no, no, no. We, we just tease, we don't go do black market stuff. Yeah, that's what you say. Okay, all right.

Mike Gorday:

Well, we want to thank our listeners for joining the program.

Nathan Mumm:

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