191: Uncovering Cybercrime just like "THE BEEKEEPER" Movie, and Exploring Medical Breakthroughs with James Riddle. Social Media's Touch of Elmo's Comfort and the History of Walk/Don't Walk Signs | Air Date: 2/4 - 2/10/24

Embark on a gripping journey through the digital sphere as we unravel the AnyDesk cyber attack, exposing the underbelly of cybercrime that rivals the twists of a Hollywood thriller. But our narrative isn't all code and crime; we pivot to the comforting embrace of Elmo, who's become an unexpected bastion of mental health support, sparking profound conversations across social media. Join us as we traverse from the vulnerabilities of our online existence to the warmth of a virtual hug from a furry friend.

This week's episode isn't just about the zeros and ones; we've got James Riddle from Advarra sharing insights on medical marvels that are reshaping our healthcare landscape. Imagine a world where hearing loss is reversed with gene therapy, where the ominous Nipah virus is kept at bay with vaccines, and where Alzheimer's is combated using the power of ultrasound. As we probe these breakthroughs, we also ponder the ethics of genetic editing and the nanotechnology that's ushering in a new era of early cancer detection.

Our conversation doesn't stop at the threshold of innovation; we also pay homage to the historical strides made by African-American coaches in sports and explore the societal shifts influencing pedestrian safety. We're here to engage, educate, and spark curiosity, blending the serious with the lighthearted, like our technology fail of the week and the whiskey tasting that rounds out our discussion. So, pour yourself a glass and tune into this week's fascinating mix of an episode that's as personal as technology itself.

Episode 191: This week on TechTime with Nathan Mumm®, First up, we delve into a plot that seems straight out of a blockbuster movie: the AnyDesk hack. Imagine cybercriminals infiltrating the very heart of remote access software, putting companies in lockdown for days. We'll explore how this breach happened, its impact, and what it means for our digital security.

Stay tuned for all this and more, only on TechTime Radio with Nathan Mumm, the show that makes you go "Humm" Technology news of the week for February 4th - 10th, 2024

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• A plot right out of the movies as we look at the Anydesk hack - http://tinyurl.com/hjcb9tzr 
• Elmo takes a turn as a therapist after asking, 'How is everybody doing?' - http://tinyurl.com/3ntts68t 
• Our roads are crumbling, so we need a few new technology ideas to keep our roads in top shape. - http://tinyurl.com/3x2fuwwc 

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James talks about four technological breakthroughs in the medical field.

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This Week in Technology: February 5, 1952, The first "Don't Walk" sign was installed in New York City.
 
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Marc Gregoire's review of this week's whiskey

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Question: Why did people respond so much to ELMO?

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Follow up on NEURALINK

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Russell’s Reserve Single Rickhouse Camp Nelson F (Limited 2023) | 117.6 Proof | $300.00

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Broadcasting Across the Nation, from the East Coast to the West, keeping you up to date on technology while enjoying a little whiskey on the side, with leading-edge topics, along with special guests to navigate technology in a segmented, stylized radio program. The information that will make you go, hmmm. Pull up a seat, raise a glass with our hosts as we spend the next hour talking about technology for the common person. Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm.

Nathan Mumm: 0:32

Welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm the show that makes you go hmmm. Technology News of the Week the show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media. We welcome our radio audience of 35 million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news. I'm Nathan Mumm, your host and technologist, with over 30 years of technology expertise. Our co-host, mike Gorday, is in studio today. Mike's an award-winning author and a human behavior expert. Now today, we are live streaming during our show on five of the most popular platforms, including YouTube, twitchtv X, facebook and LinkedIn. We encourage you to visit us online at TechTimeRadiocom and become a Patreon supporter at Patreoncom forward slash Tech Time Radio. Mike and I are friends, with both different backgrounds, but bring the best technology show possible every week for our family, friends and fans to enjoy. We're glad to have Odie, our in-house producer, at the controls day, so everybody welcome. Let's start today's show.

Speaker 1: 1:35

Now on today's show.

Nathan Mumm: 1:39

Today on Tech Time with Nathan Mumm, we're gonna delve into a plot that seems straight out of a blockbuster movie the any desk hack. We're gonna be talking about that. Imagine a criminals infiltrating the very heart of remote access software, putting companies in lockdowns for days. We'll explore how this breach happened, its impact and what it means for our digital security. Next we switch gears to a heartwarming story. You know Elmo from Sesame Street, right? Well, he's taken a surprise turn as a therapist and most simple question how is everybody doing? Has sparked the heartfelt response from people all across the nation. Then we'll discuss Mike how he loves this beloved muppet character showcasing mental health support online and in a new trend we have.

Nathan Mumm: 2:23

Let's hit the road. Literally our house fault is crumbling and potholes seem to multiply overnight. But fear not, we have some innovation road technologies to keep your streets in shape. And finally, our special guest, james Riddle, will have some unveiling new, groundbreaking medical breakthroughs to talk about. These medical technology advancements are changing lives and reshaping the healthcare as we know it today. And don't forget, we have a Nathan Nugget. Today's story is gonna be about last week's lead story. We're gonna take a recap and take a look at what actually happened to that press release that Elon Musk sent out about Neuralink. In addition, of course, we have our standard features, including Mike's mesmerizing moment, the technology fail, the week of possible Nathan Nugget and, of course, our pick of the day whiskey tastings to see if our selected whiskey pick gets zero, one or two thumbs up by the end of the show. Now let's get ready to start with the latest headlines in the world of technology.

Speaker 1: 3:20

Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm: 3:24

All right story. Number one is a plot right out of the movies. I just saw it last week. So you're having problems with your computers and you call help, desk support. Then you asked to view their computer resources with a remote software tool. Now, for those that have seen the newest movie, the beekeeper, the currently stars films Jason Stammo, who was used them, statham used remote software by the hackers to steal millions of dollars from victims, so he plots his revenge on a cyber hacking ring and essentially destroys town after town after city after city, going after these victims. We're going to be talking about exactly some of those same things that happen to any desk, one of the major tools used to provide support for organizations across the states and across the nation. Any desk remotes access solutions allows users to remote access computers over the network and the internet. Let's go to Tim Larson with more on the story.

Speaker 3: 4:24

The company behind the any desk application confirmed that it suffered a recent cyber attack that allowed hackers to gain access to the company's production systems. The source code and private code signing keys were stolen during the attack. The company reports having 170,000 customers, including 711, Comcast, Samsung, MIT and the United Nations. As part of their response, any desk says they have revoked security related certificates and remediated or replaced systems as necessary. They also reassured customers that any desk was safe to use and that there was no evidence of end user devices being affected by the incident. The question on everyone's mind is will technology systems, tools or companies ever be safe from cyber attacks? Back to you guys in the studio.

James Riddle: 5:14

All right?

Nathan Mumm: 5:15

No, well, you know what, there is some problems with that, but after conducting a security audit. So any desk didn't find this, but they had a security audit come on in. So that's always the best thing, right? So this software it wasn't from your buddies.

Nathan Mumm: 5:28

Well, it was not. It was from CrowdStrike, not FireEye. So they actually found it. Fireeye had still probably been there, never mind. Okay, so any desk is a software. Have you ever called up a help support line? You call it up and you get them the Comcast or any of these areas.

Mike Gorday: 5:43

You mean actually talking to a real person.

Nathan Mumm: 5:45

Yeah, talking to a real person.

Mike Gorday: 5:47

Not as much anymore, okay.

Nathan Mumm: 5:49

Well. So essentially any desk is used by many help desk call centers and essentially it's actually used a lot by cyber criminals. So every once in a while you may get like you click on a link online and it says, oh, you got a virus on your machine. All these warnings come up and says call this number. This is exactly the plot for the beekeeper moving and essentially what happens is somebody says I need to take access to your computer. You say okay, and when you do that now you give everybody all the access they need to the computer. Hopefully they're not doing anything maliciously, but essentially any desk is the tool that allows people to come in and out to take care of stuff.

Nathan Mumm: 6:28

Now there's just some pretty major concerns, because essentially what any desk did is it says that all users need to change their password, which is kind of a standard, in a breach itself. It also said that the encryption keys were compromised so they had to resend certificates. That is the X, y and Z hidden handshake code that goes on the back end for these software programs that you use, because those were compromised also, so they have a brand new key. So essentially what you really have to do is you have to uninstall the program, the master program re-load it.

Mike Gorday: 7:04

Install it with the new keys. Install it with the new key, and then wait for the hackers to get the new keys.

Nathan Mumm: 7:08

Well, yes, or any desk should probably do a much better job of having security. So this is again. We had this talk last week.

Mike Gorday: 7:15

I don't know. We seem to talk about this every week.

Nathan Mumm: 7:18

So people that own software companies, there needs to be some huge fines to start going out. If you say that you checkmark when you create a business and you get your EIN number from the government. If you say that you're a software company or a software security company, you need to put your name down there on the contract. It's kind of in blood that says that if you're not doing the necessary steps to keep the security system safe, that you shouldn't be able to sell it on the open market.

Mike Gorday: 7:45

Because all these open? Market things are having the problems. We've talked about this before. I think this is a point where technology has outreached what human behavior is capable of, because all these are dependent on somebody, right, yeah? And almost how many percentage of hacks are because of user error or personal or person?

Nathan Mumm: 8:09

They say 90 plus, 90 plus, 90 plus 90 plus. Are done essentially through phishing email attacks.

Mike Gorday: 8:16

This is how human behavior is taken advantage of, because we don't have the staying power to keep on top of all this stuff.

Nathan Mumm: 8:26

Okay, but if you're the company that owns the software, should you be liable. I mean, you've got to be liable for it.

Mike Gorday: 8:32

Yeah, I complain about this. How much? All the time, all the time.

Nathan Mumm: 8:36

Because? But companies like Amazon, some of these companies really spend a lot of time because there's government. Yeah, we should be spending more money on security.

Mike Gorday: 8:47

We should be figuring out how to create code that is less vulnerable, correct, and we should have some checks and balances for employees so that they don't give out passwords?

Nathan Mumm: 9:00

Yeah, it's not that difficult to do Instead of me having to do CrowdStrike comes on in and does an audit, right, and I bet you CrowdStrike I don't know for fact, but I bet you they found it pretty quick that they had been compromised. Normally, when you do a due diligence and you're not the people working there, you find these things pretty darn quickly. It doesn't take a huge rocket science individual to actually find out if this happens. It happens all the time and this is something that really needs to kind of be a part of the process, where you don't bring in this company but you have the expertise on staff to make sure that it works correctly to begin with. All right, I'm going to.

Mike Gorday: 9:35

You're so boxing and I just that's my problem with all this stuff, man, I shudder every time we start talking about this, because it's just Well, this is lack of control.

Nathan Mumm: 9:49

So this is lack of controls, of the company not having their due diligence taken care of their employees, yeah, but it affects everybody, yeah, and then people buy the stuff, thinking that it's secure because the salesperson said it was secure. All right Story. I need a therapist Story, number two.

Mike Gorday: 10:04

You're gonna have to be out here. Maybe you'll have one. Okay, the first question that I have for you is do you understand how social media works?

Nathan Mumm: 10:13

I think I do, but sometimes I don't.

James Riddle: 10:15

You know what?

Nathan Mumm: 10:16

It's. We talk about this all the time. Sometimes we get great ratings on our show. Lots of people watch it. Sometimes they don't, and I don't know if it's the keywords you put in.

Mike Gorday: 10:24

Who knows, if it's the other thing.

Nathan Mumm: 10:25

It's kind of a crapshoot to be honest.

Mike Gorday: 10:27

But if you're not, if you're not, if you're living in a cave. You might not know this, but Elmo has created a fire storm of mental health news in the past few days. All right, explain more so from his former Twitter account, his ex-account. This was just a run-of-the-mill social media check-in. How is everybody doing? It's a pretty simple question, right? Pretty easy. The message comes from Elmo, okay, the furry red friend of kids and Muppets on Sesame Street and everything else.

Mike Gorday: 11:05

But it turned into this really interesting thing over the weekend, so the response flooded in on X and Instagram threads in Facebook, so this all went out on all these social media platforms. Conversations were sparked on Reddit and elsewhere. People unburdened themselves and Elmo took it all in. An excellent Elmo's question received over 180 million views. Responses to Elmo on Friday and Monday differ wildly. So some of the earliest check-ins when this happened was hey, just on my way to buy some balsamic vinegar came one reply you know, I'm doing okay, hope you are. You know. And then it's always usually followed up by an Elmo loves you or take that and whatever.

Mike Gorday: 11:56

When the week it was over and when Elmo echoed this question on X and other platforms on Monday, things took a turn. Not well, elmo, they've done. Raise my rent and everything. At this point, I'm coming to live with you on Sesame Street, to which he replied Elmo would love that hashtag neighbors. So all these people on Monday started airing litanies of personal and relationship problems and just general angst. They spoke about being tired, broke, unsure how to improve things, feeling disconnected from others. Essentially, elmo had to become this therapist, all right.

Nathan Mumm: 12:34

So that was Friday. Sounded like Friday was a little bit more positive, Is that right?

Mike Gorday: 12:39

Friday was just social. Friday was like hey, how you doing, I'm fine, how are you? Okay, or whatnot? Okay, monday, monday, which makes sense.

Nathan Mumm: 12:49

Okay, the gloomy Monday Because.

Mike Gorday: 12:50

I hate Mondays, okay, and so everybody just started. Everybody just unloaded on or Elmo yeah.

Mike Gorday: 12:58

So in his response this week and, let's be honest, at most moments since he was introduced in the 80s, elmo's has shown that he exemplifies three of the most important attributes a therapist has. Okay, as defined by psychologist Carl Rogers, he is the driving force behind person-centered therapy. So Rogers list starts with congruence, meaning authenticity, and genuus, which is being real. The other two core qualities for a therapist, he said, are acceptance that comes from unconditional positive regard and empathy. While Elmo hasn't been able to reply to every message in his accounts, his responses are winning praises and many and I don't know if you've looked at this, but he is everywhere.

Speaker 8: 13:42

Yeah, they're talking about him in psychology today and other media.

Mike Gorday: 13:47

It's crazy. In many cases the commenters on the reply showed people sharing positive message and practical advice with each other, encouraging people who are struggling to keep sharing and working to make things better. They are words we all need to say and messages that we need to hear, and in one short message, Elmo reminded us all to make time for each other and listen. His response on Tuesday was wow, Elmo's glad he asked. Elmo learned it is important to ask a friend how they are doing. Elmo will check in again soon. Friends, Elmo loves you. Hashtag Elmo emotional well-being Okay. So there you go Now. Elmo is not a therapist, Okay, Elmo is definitely a.

Mike Gorday: 14:32

Muppet, who was created by the Henson group. Yep, okay, if you were somewhere, you know who is actually in crisis. I would encourage you not to write, elmo, I would ask you to please call, text or chat with crisis hotlines If you're feeling really bad. Suicide and crisis lifeline at 988 is active and up and running. You can also text the crisis text line by texting talk to 741-741.

Nathan Mumm: 15:06

All right, so Elmo clearly is not a therapist, but a simple question on social media just went out of control.

Mike Gorday: 15:13

Yeah, this is one of the bonkers things about social media that I don't think anybody knows how to predict and anybody who says they can.

Nathan Mumm: 15:23

Sesame Street didn't expect this to happen.

Mike Gorday: 15:25

I don't think they expected, but this is a firestorm of post-pandemic blues. Okay, that makes sense, all right.

Nathan Mumm: 15:32

Let's go on to story number three Roads. Where we're going, we don't need roads. There's a famous quote in Back to the Future by Doc M Brown. But you know what? We do need roads that do not have potholes. You know what Potholes? I just came today driving down on the I-5, right, this is supposed to be the major nice freeway. I came I-5 and then I came 405 a bit, which is the offshoot of that.

Mike Gorday: 15:59

There are holes all over the regular interstate highways.

Speaker 8: 16:07

Let's go to Corinne Westlin for more on the story of how to remove or help the crisis of potholes In 2023, there were nearly 630,000 reports of potholes in the UK and in the United States, about 44 million drivers reported damage to their vehicles from potholes in 2022, which was a massive 57% increase over 2021, according to AAA. While aging infrastructure and limited road maintenance budgets play a significant role in the problem, excessive heat can ultimately cause buckling of the roads, where additional thermal stress to the pavement materials can lead to cracks in potholes. How can we fix this? Well, I think we have a few ideas, all of which involve the use of new technologies.

Nathan Mumm: 16:56

All right. So in the UK, a startup robot company called Robots 3D was created, the world's first autonomous robot that relies on AI to find cracks in potholes in the road and fix them. The robot named Aries Prevent analyzes the geometry of the pothole, collects the measurement data and then informs that back to officials so they know where it's at the road condition and where they can actually get it taken care of and fixed. These robots are rover robots developed by the Academic Research Center at the University of Liverpool. They use wheels and camera system that allows image processing to be done in real time. They focus on the detection of potential areas for potholes and other types of pavement failures so they can work to fix these potholes as soon as possible. So this is great.

Mike Gorday: 17:43

So you got a robot. Ai Robots fix the potholes.

Nathan Mumm: 17:45

Well, they alert the person so they know where it's at in the city, what's going on with that, and then they can have somebody come on out and take care of it. So it's kind of like your robot spy, I guess, is what you'd say, right, robot spy that you would have.

Nathan Mumm: 17:57

It goes on out there, takes a look, says that there's a pothole issue here, so then it can go back to a database and you can actually send out people instead of looking for the potholes or having people call in and say, hey, I have a pothole that takes care of it.

Mike Gorday: 18:10

I feel like it's a redundant system.

Nathan Mumm: 18:13

Well, how do you where we currently live, how do you in the state of Washington? How do you get a pothole fixed?

Mike Gorday: 18:21

You know you have a bond measure that has to be.

Nathan Mumm: 18:25

No, no, no, no. How do you actually get it fixed? You actually have to call your city. So then you have to call your city and then your city will, depending on if it's in a county or not, will say it's a county issue or it's a city issue. Then you have to go to the home proof base you have all these people that are complaining about the potholes on X-23rd Street.

Mike Gorday: 18:42

Yep, somebody's going to come out and fix that, because the squeaky wheel gets the grease. So she actually, I don't know that you need to have a robot go out there and report and be like, hey, there's a pothole on X-23rd Street.

Nathan Mumm: 18:53

Well, it probably makes it so you can get it done quicker, because I don't. I mean, I drive over potholes all the time and I'm not thinking I'm going to call the city to get it replaced right, yeah, I don't call either, but I'm sure a lot of people do. All right. So now let's talk about California. Now, California has horrible roads down there, but the reason is because the roads performance are graded on a certain area.

Nathan Mumm: 19:17

So right now in California, everything has to be a PG 58-32, which means essentially the surface temperatures have to be between 58 and negative 32 degrees Celsius for the pavement that they're laying down, and if it doesn't meet that grade, then essentially you can't lay it down. Those are the grades that you have to get Now. Do you realize, though, that it's simply you could have better temperature grades with very little increasing cost. You just have to make that a standard system instead of having the certain ones that we do. So California roads notoriously bad. They have a very low standard of the negative 32 degrees Celsius and the 58 degrees Celsius, which sometimes it gets hotter than that Essentially the 58 degrees when you have the sun beating down on the roads and essentially disintegrating this. So if they just improve that, then essentially you could have better roads built. With that, it doesn't take a whole lot to change the strength of the asphalt mixes to minimize these potholes.

Mike Gorday: 20:20

I think that's a better idea than having robots.

Nathan Mumm: 20:23

Okay, well, let's talk about another idea Washington-based climate tech startup, modern hydrogen, which is a hydrogen which is a local company itself it was seed funded from the likes of Bill Gates essentially has the ability to create longer lasting forms of asphalt. The clean company's idea is, instead of using the process they currently do, which is oil-based that has dirt, pebble, stone, sand and oil to mix into it essentially, it uses vitamin from oil, but you can actually decide to have that be increased with having a lower CO2 intensity and actually have a better binder that makes the pavement on what they consider almost self-healing. So, essentially, when it gets too hot, when it gets too cold, it'll actually contrast and it'll actually expand based upon this ability, instead of having the oil that is currently being used in there. Or, for instance, steel fibers can essentially be released and you can have them so that they can put heat into the mortars instead of having them melt down.

Nathan Mumm: 21:27

Briefly, so these are all essentially technologies that exist right now. To have better roads and roads across the United States is like a big campaign issue. We're getting into this political campaign area right, and this is going to be one of the big issues. Every state has issues with roads, and it's not necessarily that we don't have the technology to fix them.

Mike Gorday: 21:47

That's where they get federal funding. They get federal funding to fix roads, oftentimes by the federal government trying to dabble in state politics.

Nathan Mumm: 21:56

Okay, so we have the technology out there, we have technology solutions in place to help with what we have on our current road situations for minimal fractional increases on dollars.

Mike Gorday: 22:11

What are those guys gonna do that have to fill the potholes if there's no potholes?

Nathan Mumm: 22:14

to fill. Well, that'd be fantastic. You wouldn't have to worry about it. So those are just some of the great technology solutions out there. If we would just have some maybe road regulations or some better technology solutions put in place to get our roads taken care.

Mike Gorday: 22:31

I think we can all agree that there's technologies that exist out there that solves most of our problems that we have currently. We just can't get them there, or we don't get them, because there are always political reasons why we can't utilize them.

Nathan Mumm: 22:45

This is my pothole.

Mike Gorday: 22:46

I'm on a pothole phrase right now You're on a pothole. So much you like the robot idea.

Nathan Mumm: 22:52

I think the robot idea would be really cool, because you know what? There's a pothole that I've gone over on my way to work every day over, and I literally hit it with my tires on my right hand side, so it's on my driver's side when I go over Every day. No one's ever filled it. It's been there for about a year and a half and I guess I have to call. But wouldn't it be nice if that robot went out?

Mike Gorday: 23:15

Well, look at the streets. You could call or steer around it.

Nathan Mumm: 23:20

Well, no, it could just be fixed. If I was in the UK, I would have a better solution. Yeah, a robot would come out and move to the UK.

Mike Gorday: 23:28

That's what it is. Well, you know what. Move to the UK?

Nathan Mumm: 23:31

That way I can get my cars, I can get them charged on the street.

Mike Gorday: 23:34

I envision this little Amazon, little cargo thing, the little robots from Amazon coming out and scoping out the wheel.

Nathan Mumm: 23:42

Why don't you let's use the robots they already have on the Amazon drivers and go right over the top of it?

Mike Gorday: 23:46

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're just going to add this to cars at some point in the future, so the cars will report that back to Google.

Nathan Mumm: 23:53

That'd be a good idea. That'd be a good idea. That's probably a Google thing. Ok, there you go, you sign up for that and then you self-report.

Mike Gorday: 23:57

See we've just solved the problem. We don't have to worry about anything. Your pothole will be fixed when they get around, OK all right?

Nathan Mumm: 24:04

Well, that ends, then, our top technology stories of the week. Moving on, we have James Riddle, our medical expert, joining us for our next segment after the commercial break. You're going to want to not miss this by any means, because we're going to be talking about gene therapy. That has caused a deaf kid to hear again. Just think of not being able to hear and then, with gene therapy, boom, I can hear again. He's going to be talking about that and many other technologies advances in the medical field. You're listening to Tech Time with Nathan Mum. We'll be back after this commercial break.

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Nathan Mumm: 25:45

Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mum. Our show covers the weekly top technology subjects without a political agenda. We verify the facts and we do it with a sense of humor, in less than 60 minutes and, of course, with a little whiskey on our side. Today, mark Gregoire, our whiskey connoisseur, is in studios. Mark, what are we tasting?

Marc Gregoire: 26:02

Well for Mike, we are not doing another ride today.

Nathan Mumm: 26:05

OK, yeah, that's definitely bourbon, is it? Yeah, it is definitely just a bourbon. Ok.

Marc Gregoire: 26:10

It is Russell's Reserve single Rick House, camp Nelson F, which is a limited 2023 release from them. So let me tell you what they say from Russell Reserve's website. It's inspired by unique conditions of the storied Rick Houses at the Wild Turkey Distilling Company. The single Rick House collection explores the own some contributions specific barrels resting places can have on that whiskey's final character. Now, each time offering in the annual series features whiskeys drawn from a single Rick House. So this one is F and before this they release C, and it's celebrating the varied nuances of the agent environment. So it really is to prove where is just as important as the how in crafting whiskey.

Marc Gregoire: 27:01

Now, as I mentioned, this is the second entry in the series the 2023 Russell's Reserve single Rick House from Camp Nelson F. It's a rare bourbon bottle from a small batch of barrels from the center cut floors four and five. Its barrel proof is 117.6, non-chill filtered. This robust, long lasting bourbon is meant to sip and savor. Robust flavors of clove and white pepper give way to sweet notes of caramel, orange peel and dark fruits. A lasting finish with honey and baking spices that give way to tobacco and mature oak.

Nathan Mumm: 27:34

So this is on floors four and five, Correct? So what gets distilled on floors one, two and three?

Marc Gregoire: 27:41

It's other Russell's single reserves, it's just different flavor profiles. And from this Rick House, the Well Turkey says F and they say floors four and five give the they feel the best bourbon.

Mike Gorday: 27:55

So that's why those are the honey barrels. There's Rick House K and you coming out, yeah.

Marc Gregoire: 28:02

It's 117.6 proof. Now the price of this MSRP is $300. And it's going for on the web for around 600.

Nathan Mumm: 28:13

Wow, there you go. So I'm going to sip that I think it's going to get a three, but we better give it a thumbs up, wouldn't?

Speaker 3: 28:20

that be horrible. It's OK, we give it a thumbs down to a $300 whiskey.

Marc Gregoire: 28:24

No, ok, that's true.

Nathan Mumm: 28:25

No.

Marc Gregoire: 28:26

Your pal, isn't that refined? It's all right, wow. So if you like us like and subscribe. Please out there and put a comment in there. Love to hear about if you've had this, if you've tried it, or specifically what whiskey you'd like to see on the show.

Nathan Mumm: 28:39

All right, Thanks, Mark. I'm sure we'll learn more about it in our what's our day to day.

Mike Gorday: 28:44

What today is.

Nathan Mumm: 28:45

That's right. All right, with our first whiskey tasting completed, let's move on to our feature segment. Today we have James Riddle joining on the show. James is the vice president of research services and strategic consulting at Edvera. He also serves in the Association for Accreditation of Human Research Protection Programs. James is an advocate and responsibility in medicine and research, but we know him as our tech time medical research expert. Let's get ready to start our Comcast video stream in our next segment.

Speaker 1: 29:14

Welcome to the segment we call Ask the Experts With our tech time radio expert James Riddle.

Nathan Mumm: 29:23

All right, James Welcome to the show Wow we got a new background. Where are you joining us from today?

James Riddle: 29:29

I'm joining you from my little bit remodeled office.

Speaker 9: 29:33

OK.

James Riddle: 29:33

Long story.

Marc Gregoire: 29:34

OK.

James Riddle: 29:34

We can share it over that $600 shot that you got sitting there on the counter sometime We'll have to do that.

Nathan Mumm: 29:39

This is a pretty good shot too.

James Riddle: 29:41

At some point you're going to get down to the one barrel on one floor, that's on the fifth step of the seventh left center. You think so.

Nathan Mumm: 29:50

That'll be the special beer, or the special whiskey that someone was leaning sideways against with some oranges underneath it, or something like that. There you go, all right. Well, ok, so it's been. You are a predictor of the future. That's what I'm calling you, because nine months ago you were on our show and you had a concern about this company that was gathering our DNA. It was a company called 23andMe. Now, james, I'm sure you've seen the news articles. We covered it extensively here. 23andme, china-backed company, was compromised and breached, and all of their user data was stolen. Now does that surprise you, doesn't?

James Riddle: 30:29

surprise me a bit. It's to the point of your earlier story about. Is anything unhackable the? The answer is probably not, unfortunately, and so you really just have to consider that anytime you put your Electronic data out there, including a digital copy of yourself in your genomic profile, that's up for up to be in hacked, and, unfortunately, 23andme Got got stung and if you do need a copy of your DNA, if you want it and you were on the 23andMe it's going for about 50 cents right now on the dark web, so it's not even a premiere.

Nathan Mumm: 31:08

It's not even a premiere of a list for something I know it is like the cheapest stuff. I cost more to get a Facebook login than it does to get a DNA.

Mike Gorday: 31:17

What was the point?

Nathan Mumm: 31:17

of getting it. Well, I didn't do it All right, well, okay, let's now move on and talk about something a little bit more exciting. We have an 11 year old boy who has regained his hearing after receiving a groundbreaking gene therapy at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. Now can you explain how this happened, what was a part of this and how this young child is now hearing today?

James Riddle: 31:40

Yeah, so I think we we've talked about the power of gene therapy a couple of times, and Really, the way that this technology works is that if you have a genetic abnormality or a defect, technology exists now where Scientists and medical professionals can go in and actually fix the defect. And so this young man had a what is Considered a reasonably rare genetic disorder, which caused him not to be able to hear. Scientists were able to specifically isolate the gene that was causing the problem and they were able to provide a gene therapy that went in, corrected the gene, and now the young man can hear.

Nathan Mumm: 32:20

So now explain this a little bit to me. This is so the genes in the boy itself. So they go in with this gene therapy. Do they actually change a chromosome, that they change a DNA sequence? Live as it, as things are going on, and then it replicates through their system and then they're fixed, or how does that actually work?

James Riddle: 32:39

Yeah, you described it. Just as it happens that, depending on the nature of the genetic defect, if it is at this point in the technology, you have to really understand what is the specific genetic abnormality that's going to be fixed and you insert it using something called a viral vector. So if you think about the way that a virus works, it gets into your cell and causes havoc with inside your cell.

Mike Gorday: 33:05

It reprograms itself.

James Riddle: 33:07

Yep, and so you can. You can leverage those viral vectors to do positive things like fixing a genetic abnormality, and the challenge is that you have to be able to figure out where to go to fix that particular genetic abnormality and you have to know where it's at in the DNA strand and how to go in and get it. So if some genetic disorders are highly complex, involve a number of different chromosomes, and but if you're Like this young man who was able to, we were able to identify and there's other people who suffer from this condition it's this very specific gene and now we're able to go in and fix it and it's really it's a quite amazing technology. It's also used to help people who have certain site problems be able to see people with immunodeficiencies, folks with severe muscular conditions, all in the genetic abnormality category. We can now go in and fix those things.

Nathan Mumm: 34:05

Alright, okay, so so let me ask you this, then I Totally off topic if I have brown eyes. So if I wanted to to get blue eyes, if I just wanted to get blue eyes, and they knew the gene sequence in there, essentially I could have this virus come into Into my system through the DNA and they could actually change my eyes so that my eyes would go from brown To blue in the matter of a couple days then, and then it would keep it there permanently.

James Riddle: 34:33

Not you couldn't dial that up on the interweb at the moment, but the, the underlying technology of Editing your gene profile within your body. Yeah, that that theoretically could be possible.

Mike Gorday: 34:49

Yeah right. Contact contact yeah.

Nathan Mumm: 34:54

I just think it is specifically for, like Hollywood actors and stuff, right, sometimes they wear contacts for different colored eyes. I can see all of a sudden some high.

Mike Gorday: 35:04

This is where we start getting into the ethical arguments of of this type of. Yeah situation, because what you're talking about is one of the big ethical questions.

James Riddle: 35:14

Okay, all right, okay, and these are not just these. Experiments are done, highly controlled, overseen by a bunch of ethics committees, before Folks are having their genes altered unless you're in China, though.

Nathan Mumm: 35:29

Right Okay, all right, okay, I want to fix potholes in China.

Mike Gorday: 35:35

Okay, they don't, they just they use these people like Nathan, who continually drive into them.

Nathan Mumm: 35:41

That's right, all right. Okay, let's talk about an MIT engineer study that talks about nano sensors that could enable early lung cancer detection, which requires only a simple urine test. That I. I saw this online. I read about this. I got a little bit lost this wasn't a smart toilet thing, was not a this wasn't a CES smart toilet type of deal, but essentially an MIT engineer study says that this is possible. James, is this? Is that fact, not fact? Tell me a little bit about this.

James Riddle: 36:09

No, definitely, definitely doable. Okay, if you think about how you can do test strips for it, this is probably the easiest way to think about it. The test strip for your, for your pool, all right. You dip it in certain chemicals rack with the test strip. Test strip changes colors If you make that test strip small enough and you make it so that it detects lung cancer cells. Lung cancer cells excrete a certain particular kind of protein that you can build a detector for and then you measure. Essentially, you measure whether the thing changed colors by looking at the P and see if Something was impacted in the urine that comes out of the person and you measure how much came out it's. We've just finally gotten to the point where the nano measurement technology has gotten to where we can have it Detect a particular protein coming out of the cell and be able to then detect the outcome of that measurement tool. Pretty cool stuff, really okay well.

Nathan Mumm: 37:09

So now that we have all this detection, I bet you cancer is gonna be rapid. All that's what I keep on thinking. So I keep on hearing about more and more people to get cancer.

Mike Gorday: 37:17

It's probably because we're just now detecting it at a much higher rate than we were back in in 10 or 15 years, or it could be that we're exposing ourselves to all kinds of stuff that that you know, mutate our genes a little bit more that 5g network no yes.

Nathan Mumm: 37:33

Not the 5g network, not the 5g, okay, but this.

James Riddle: 37:37

It's a combination of all of those things. People are living. People are living longer, which gives them more time to be able to have a genetic abner or a cellular abnormality, yep or cellular defect that causes the cancer. We're better at detecting it, so some people who used to die and you didn't used to know why, now we know why.

Nathan Mumm: 37:58

So, and there's just there's generally just more people around too okay, so this is a story that you sent me that you want to talk about a little bit and I had to do a little bit of research on this and we talked about last night at our production meeting, so you have to help us out here. But scientists launched their first human vaccine trials for the deadly Nipah virus. Is that Nipah?

James Riddle: 38:18

Nipah virus.

Nathan Mumm: 38:19

So what is the Nipah virus?

James Riddle: 38:22

Okay. So yeah, nipah virus is a nasty, bad virus. Okay, sir, just, it's carried by fruit bats. So just picture places in the world where there are fruit bats. Okay, they, these fruit bats, carry the Nipah virus, and it is. It's. It's nasty stuff. So just think, like Zika, ebola, marbarg, a whole bunch of different viruses that could wipe out the planet, that kind of stuff.

James Riddle: 38:48

All right, there is not currently a Vaccine for Nipah virus. There wasn't a vaccine for COVID SARS-2 before we developed one Yep, and so you know, the World Health Organization and other places are pretty concerned that we have these other Really nasty viruses that live in animal populations. Who could? There's evidence of Nipah virus being infecting in humans. There isn't a broad-scale human to human transfer as of yet, but there could be, and so it's pretty encouraging that researchers are fine I'm just gonna say fine, like getting around to making sure that we have decent virus technology, virus and Vaccine technology for some of these viruses that go around seems like COVID might have woke some people up, so yeah, so we did talk about this.

Nathan Mumm: 39:41

It was like the COVID allowed people to do some stuff that that regulations had previously. Not necessarily move as quickly with.

Mike Gorday: 39:49

I mean, this is an interesting piece if you look, because they've been preparing for a pandemic long before COVID hit, yep, but it's been in such small circles and and they can't, you know, get all the funding that they need all the time. And Now now it seems like, oh wait, a minute, they were right, maybe we need to do some more research in this area. All right, last, last, last question.

Nathan Mumm: 40:13

I'm gonna ask you and then we're running out of time, but this is a big one for me. So experimental all-timers drug addiction ultrasound trials may help patients. So my mom Restors, so she's still alive, but she doesn't remember who I am anymore and so she has a disease. My grandmother had a disease. It's awesome to find out that it transfers through your, your, your female parents, so I probably will have the disease, so don't worry about it. George, I appreciate you being a part of the show very nice.

Nathan Mumm: 40:48

But seriously though, because this is a concern for me, tell me what this is is and how this may help patients.

James Riddle: 40:55

Yeah, so that it's pretty commonly understood at this point that there are certain Indicators in the brain for people who have Alzheimer's.

James Riddle: 41:05

You've heard about the amyloid plaques and the white spots and things of that nature. So pharmaceutical companies have developed a number of drugs to try and reduce the amount of plaque that builds up in your brain, with the hope that that will then reduce the Alzheimer's. And the problem is that you have to get that stuff through the blood brain barrier in order to get it from the injection site or the infusion site Into the brain, and your body is designed so that it's not easy to do that. Right. That protects your brain at all costs, including the blood brain barrier, where it's hard to inject something into the bloodstream and have it get to the right spot in the brain. Okay, and so what they're doing with the ultrasound is they're using the ultrasound in a very precise, pinpointed way To open up a spot in the blood brain barrier so that the drug can get into the brain tissue more effectively and hopefully Quicker, in a quicker manner, treat the underlying plaque that's in the brain. That's what's going on.

Mike Gorday: 42:07

Being a completely just a meat sack. Biological life support unit for the bread between your ears.

Nathan Mumm: 42:13

Yeah, see, I have. I have some very mixed. I could do seven shows on that. That's why I drink energy drinks every morning. Uh-huh because, if I die a little bit earlier. At least I enjoyed those energy drinks but no, that's not okay.

Speaker 3: 42:24

All right, okay, james, james, I appreciate we.

Nathan Mumm: 42:27

I've known you for such a long time. We do need to get some whiskey. We need to have. The next time you're up here in town, go and have some spaghetti and and have a great time and get all caught up on what's going on. So thank you for being a part of the show. It's always a pleasure to talk with you. If anybody wants to get in contact with you is the best way to do it through LinkedIn. How would they ask you some, some questions?

James Riddle: 42:50

LinkedIn's the best way to do it. Profiles pretty self-explanatory and my profile picture looks a lot younger than I do here on the screen today. Oh there you go.

Nathan Mumm: 42:57

All right, james. Thank you so much. All right, hi, james. We're going to take a commercial break when we come up. Next. We have this week in technology. You're listening to tech time radio with Nathan mum, hey, mike you know what's up. Hey, so you know what we need to people start liking our social media page if you like our show, if you really like us. That's it.

Mike Gorday: 43:21

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I put you're the English language, you know you put your the Patreon.

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You know the one the Zuckerberg owns the one that we always bag on yeah, you can do. We're on Facebook too, yeah like us on. Facebook. You know what our Facebook pages?

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It seems to be that there's a trend and that's tech time radio, or you can even Instagram with us and that's at tech time radio that's, that's a term.

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Mike Gorday: 44:09

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Nathan Mumm: 44:15

That's it, that's it, that's that simple.

Speaker 1: 44:18

And now let's look back at this week in technology.

Nathan Mumm: 44:25

All right, we're going on our way back machine to February 5th 1952. The first don't walk sign Is installed in New York City. The installation of the sign was inspired by the growing number of deaths that resulted from pedestrian accidents during the 1930s. City officials were trying to figure out how they could reduce the death and injury toll among Pedestrians. Cities began passing laws establishing the pedestrians have the right-of-way under certain circumstances. Well, this didn't work out and they tried physical means, including barriers, to prevent pedestrians from crossing where they weren't supposed to. But in the 1950s, with the technology available, they were able to develop lights, did walk and don't walk signs. Today we have over a hundred version of these signs with audible alerts, countdowns and funny animated pictures of people running. But the first city in the first city is New York City to develop the technology as a mainstay.

Mike Gorday: 45:23

Yeah, I see, but you need to talk to the people down in Seattle about paying attention to those signs, to the signs.

Nathan Mumm: 45:29

That makes sense. Well, that was this week in technology. If you ever wanted to watch some tech time history, with over 180 weekly broadcasts spanning four plus years, videos, podcasts and blogs, information or more, visit us at techtime radio comm. We're gonna take a commercial break. When we return, we have the marks mumble, risk a review. We'll see you after the break.

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Speaker 1: 46:25

The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's whiskey mumble.

Marc Gregoire: 46:34

Now you can do this buddy All right what we got going on today mark. Today is African-American coaches day, okay, yeah. This day addresses the need for the black community, and Everybody else in particular, to embrace coaching to help spur business and personal development for black community. This significant day Trashes the baseless stereotypes throughout history that African-Americans aren't good enough. A Meerscan through history clearly shows they undeniably sit among the world's most brilliant minds and super impressive accomplishments. Some pioneers were Fitz Pollard, who is the NFL's first black head coach for the anchoring pros in 1921. We have Bill Russell, nba's first black head coach from the Boston Celtics 1966. And more recently, jennifer King, first full-time female black NFL coach. She is the assistant running back coach for the Washington football team, hired in 2021. Okay, and there's many more that we don't have time to name today. Now, as we celebrate African-American coaches day, let's raise a toast with our Russell's Reserve single.

Marc Gregoire: 47:42

Rick House. Camp Nelson F. This bourbons Rick House is called Camp Nelson, after the local military Camp Nelson, which was established in 1863. It served as a hospital, a maintenance and supply station for the US Army. In a portion of that has been converted into a cemetery. Now, following the Civil War, the cemetery was used to re-inter union dead who had been buried elsewhere in Kentucky, so it's very symbolic for Kentucky and very important for them now. Count Nelson also had another very important role, according to the National Park Service website. Initially established as a Union Army supply depot in hospital, camp Nelson was one of the largest recruitment and training centers for African-American soldiers during the Civil War and served as a refugee camp for their wives and children.

Nathan Mumm: 48:30

Okay.

Marc Gregoire: 48:33

So now talking specifically about the bourbon, yes this is not easy to find, being a limited release, and it is a little bit expensive, as you talked about. Now, if you can find a poor at a bar when you would have time to savor it, I would highly recommend it. It is complex, deep and dark. Taking time to dissect its many different aspects. There's berry sweetness and vanilla touches, cinnamon with spices, rich dark chocolate with some barrel char. You can probably name five other intense flavors. As you slowly sip it as a whiskey, you'd want to make the centerpiece for a small whiskey gathering at your home. If you're so inclined, thumbs up for me.

Nathan Mumm: 49:09

There you go, okay, well, you know it pairing of whiskey and technology is like the pairing of the Super Bowl and funny commercials. All right, let's get ready to our tour, to that? Yeah, let's get ready for any commercial.

Mike Gorday: 49:22

You have no originality, do you?

Nathan Mumm: 49:24

Well, that's original. He's topical All right technology fail of the week brought you by elite executive services. Let's start that now. We are out of time. Congratulations, you're a failure.

Speaker 8: 49:36

Oh I.

Marc Gregoire: 49:38

I failed. Did I yes, did I yes?

Nathan Mumm: 49:44

Yes, all right. How many of you guys got yourself the Apple vision pro, that $3,499 device? Not me. Well, what on sale on Friday as Apple's first major new hardware category Since it begins selling smartwatches almost a decade ago now, this device isn't expected to be as necessarily the blockbuster Product because of its price tag. But one thing for sure if you forget your code, essentially a series of digits, your device will no longer work and you'll have to bring it back to the Apple care customer support line, calling them up, returning it to the store, and have everything deleted on the device itself. That's right. The company did not provide a built-in cable. Most of your headsets have like a USB C or some type of cable that you can connect to so you can do a reset, and it seems that the passcode problem has been very frustrating, especially with users that have forgot their Passcodes and essentially had to go back, restart everything over from scratch and wait two to three days to get their device back.

Mike Gorday: 50:49

It's like an iPhone passcode. It has to be like 80 80 bajoyas.

Nathan Mumm: 50:53

Yeah, it's quite a bit larger passcode so you're not gonna necessarily your marriage two, five, seven, nine, six, four, three, eight type of deal if you don't remember that, If that's not mine. But if you don't remember that and you forget, forget it. Your device is essentially brick. Apple spokesperson said that they're working on a solution. Currently, the only solution is to buy a $300 accessory on top of your.

Mike Gorday: 51:19

Again, if you're spending $300 for this is an apple, so that should be part of the deal anyway.

Nathan Mumm: 51:24

You have to pay $300. That, essentially, is a device that you can troubleshoot that device for developers. Now we're gonna head right now to our mics mesmerizing moment. This is Mike's mesmerizing moment, presented by Story coffee Story coffee dot com. All right, mike, why did people respond so much to this Elmo thing here? Really, this, this took off on social media.

Mike Gorday: 51:51

This took off on social media. It's being covered by all national news media outlets. It's kind of interesting. Okay, well, I mentioned part of it in the article about Elmo's character.

Speaker 3: 52:07

Yeah right.

Mike Gorday: 52:08

So that's, that's a big piece. Now I added some stuff in there that we talked about this last night. Elmo is a symbol, yeah, and that symbol represents those things, okay, and those things are innocence, authenticity, empathy which is huge for therapeutic responses and positive regard. Okay, so, as a symbol more often than not, and Elmo is recognizable as a safe place to be able to express things, so it's, it's, it's Something I would not have predicted to happen, yep, but it's. It's an interesting way in which we will interact with a, a fictional character, yep, and in a very similar manner in which we would interact with a therapist or a bartender, okay, so, as, as Symbology goes, elmo, elmo, I guess, is. Is that that kind of caring symbol?

Nathan Mumm: 53:15

Okay.

Marc Gregoire: 53:16

All right, okay, well, thanks.

Nathan Mumm: 53:17

You know, yeah, I get in social media. You never know what's gonna pop to you. All right, let's now move to our pick of the day.

Speaker 1: 53:28

And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings. Let's see what bubbles to the top.

Nathan Mumm: 53:35

All right, Mark. What are we tasting today?

Marc Gregoire: 53:37

We are tasting Russell's Reserve single Rick House, camp Nelson F, the limited 2023 edition. It is from Wild Turkey, it's a straight bourbon. It's not age-stated but it's over 10 years, 117.6 proof and MSRP is $300.

Mike Gorday: 53:56

Mike, what do you think? Yeah, I'm gonna give it a thumbs up. I think it's fairly mild, but I Like it would you have this on your shelf for now. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't go out buy it.

Nathan Mumm: 54:07

Okay, Mark has it on a shelf mark. Do you like this on your shelf?

Marc Gregoire: 54:09

Yes, I find it very deep, complex, so many different flavors. Every time I sip it I get something different.

Nathan Mumm: 54:15

All right, that's perfect. All right, I'm gonna give it a thumbs up also.

Mike Gorday: 54:18

I like this 300 bucks.

Marc Gregoire: 54:19

Well, no, I just like everything Come on, it's gonna be a reason to give it a thumbs down. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, it's all that's true.

Nathan Mumm: 54:26

It tastes really good.

Marc Gregoire: 54:27

I wouldn't recommend everybody go running on buying a bottle but definitely trying to pour it at a bar.

Nathan Mumm: 54:32

Okay, that makes sense. All right for the Nathan nugget that we didn't get to. If you want to watch the Super Bowl, Essentially you need to watch it on Paramount Plus. That's the only place to do it. Or get yourself some old TV in Tennessee have available. And and regarding the Elon Musk stuff, Neuralink there is no information announced about it anywhere from Neuralink or any other sites that should be the fail of the week. So it should be. Is Elon Musk telling us the truth that it happened or that didn't?

Mike Gorday: 54:55

if this happened. He should have happened.

Nathan Mumm: 54:57

All right. Well, everybody, we thank you for watching the show. Remember the science of tomorrow starts with the technology of today. We'll see you next week. Bye, bye later.

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