177: Ghostly Tales in Technology with Cybersecurity Expert Nick Espinosa. TechTime Radio's 2023 Halloween Edition is much like "Five Nights at Freddie's," with mechanical robots taking over not just a pizzeria but the world | Air Date: 10/29 - 11/4/23
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177: Ghostly Tales in Technology with Cybersecurity Expert Nick Espinosa. TechTime Radio's 2023 Halloween Edition is much like "Five Nights at Freddie's," with mechanical robots taking over not just a pizzeria but the world | Air Date: 10/29 - 11/4/23
This Halloween episode is packed with chilling tales and thought-provoking discussions. We're thrilled to have Nick Espinosa, join us to shed light on some spooky tech topics. From the ghostly existence of UNIVAC's early computers to Elon Musk's ambitious plans to oust cash, we've got plenty of intriguing corners of the tech world to explore.
We also put the spotlight on some sobering realities in our digital age. The misuse of facial recognition technology, data breaches posing threats to national security, and the potential fallout of digital identities. With important entities like the UK Ministry of Defense and the US Department of Defense falling victim to breaches, we try to underscore the gravity of these issues and why they should concern us.
Our whiskey of the week is a treat waiting to be discovered - will it get two thumbs up? We also dive into the quirky history of National Doorbell Day, the haunted Buffalo Trace Distillery, and more. Plus, we take a trip down memory lane, revisiting tech failures - the HD DVD, 3D TV, Blackberry, Amazon Fire Phone, and 8 Tracks.
Episode 177: Starts at 1:28
Welcome to TechTime Radio's 2023 Halloween Edition! With our special guest Nick Espinosa, who will help us explore the spooky side of technology. Our theme for today is much like "Five Nights at Freddie's," with scary mechanical robots taking over not just a pizzeria but the world.
We will discuss some of the most spine-chilling topics in the tech world. First up, we will explore whether AI is Frankenstein's monster or just the introduction to Skynet. We will also discuss whether UNIVAC's ghost still haunts old computer labs, as one of the earliest computers ever built was considered the scariest predictor of future events. Additionally, we will be talking about the Zombie Internet, Elon Musk's attempt to get rid of cash, and vampire hackers who are sucking money from businesses and governments.
TechTime Radio with Nathan Mumm, the show that makes you go "Hmmm" Technology news of the week for October 29th – November 4th, 2023
--- [Now on Today's Show]: Starts at 4:10
--- [Top Stories in Technology]: Starts at 5:32
Sam Bankman-Fried Denies Knowing FTX Money Was Missing, as he concludes his testimony - https://tinyurl.com/3syefn8f
--- [Pick of the Day - Whiskey Tasting Reveal]: Starts at 21:43 Colonel E.H. Taylor, Jr. Single Barrel | 100 Proof| $70 MSRP
--- [Ask the Expert - Nick Espinosa]: Starts at 25:01 Nick talks about his three most scary technology breaches of the year in our Halloween Special.
--- [This Week in Technology]: Starts at 40:17 November 4, 1952 - UNIVAC Computer Predicts Presidential Election
--- [Marc's Whiskey Mumble]: Starts at 43:14 Marc Gregoire's review of this week's whiskey
--- [Technology Fail of the Week]: Starts at 47:32 This week’s “Technology Fail” comes to us from The Technology Graveyard: With 5 Hunting Failures whose ghosts still haunt us today.
--- [Mike's Mesmerizing Moment brought to us by StoriCoffee®]: Starts at 51:10 Question: What was the scariest story of the year?
--- [Nathan Nugget]: Starts at 53:34 ZOMBIE Internet – The best two Wi-Fi Routers for 2023.
--- [Pick of the Day Whiskey Review]: Starts at 54:41 Colonel E.H. Taylor, Jr. Single Barrel | 100 Proof| $70 MSRP
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We encourage you to visit us online at tech time radio comm and become a Patreon supporter at patreoncom. Forward slash. Tech time radio. I'm Nathan mom, your host, the technologist for over 30 years of technology expertise working for Fortune 500 companies across the country. Today in the studio, we got mr Miller behind the board, we have my co-host here, microday mark reggwa, and of course, it's a holiday event, so that means we got Nick Espinosa on the show ready to go today. This is our best. This is normally the most watch episode of the year. This in Christmas gets really close into that area. It's because we are all dressed up and in spirit.
Nathan Mumm:
I don't know why you want to believe that for this. So we got Mike. You are a king, you're the king of the kingdom.
Mike Gorday:
I'm at least the king of snark. Okay, we got the king of star care.
Nathan Mumm:
We got myself. I'm dressed up as a Idiot. It's a pumpkin, though we call it a pumpkin and Mark's dressed up as a You'll see him when he comes on in here as as a interesting little witch type of deal. And we got mr Miller long stock. We got mr Miller dressed as a 2003 Radio engineer. So there we go.
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Nathan Mumm:
You're an award-winning author right originally from Arizona. Mike is a human behavior expert living in the Seattle area with a master degree In forensic psychology. Mike is here to keep me from geeking out. We're providing insight into human behavior and how it interacts with technology. Mark reggwa is our whiskey connoisseur and a senior technical executive with 30 year record of establishing technology solutions. He's a skilled whiskey drinker and as our go-to pick of the day expert. We are all friends from different backgrounds, but bring the best technology show possible Every week for our family, friends and fans to enjoy. Welcome everyone. Let's start today's show.
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Now on today's show.
Nathan Mumm:
All right. Today on tech time with Nathan mum, we have our tech time radios 2023 Halloween edition with special guest Nick Espinoza, who will help us explore the spooky side of technology. Our theme for today is much like the Five Nights at Freddy's, with scary mechanical robots taking over not just a pizzeria but the world itself. We will discuss some of the most spine chilling topics in the tech world. First up, we'll explore whether AI is Frankenstein's monster or just the introduction of Skynet. We'll also discuss whether the Univax ghost still haunt old computer labs as one of the earliest computers ever built, considered to be one of the scariest predictors of future events. Additionally, when we talking about the zombie internet, elon Musk's attempt to get rid of cash and vampire hackers or a second money from businesses and governments.
Nathan Mumm:
In addition, we have our standard features, including Mike's mesmerizing moment, our technology fail the week and a possible Nathan nugget and our pick of the day whiskey tasting during the commercial breaks. We will see if our selected pick gets zero, one or two thumbs up. Actually, we have all four of us drinking it, so we'll see if it gets four thumbs up at the end of the show. So sit back, raise a glass and welcome the tech time with Nathan mum. Now it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology.
Speaker 3:
Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan Mumm:
Alright, story number one, the biggest crypto scam case might be coming to an end. Let's go to Mary Stramford for more on the story. Sam Bankman freed the founder of the failed FTX cryptocurrency exchange Denies.
Speaker 4:
Knowing FTX money was missing, the founder of the FTX crypto exchange was grilled by a federal prosecutor for a second day. The entrepreneur has been accused of masterminding a year-long fraud to steal as much as 10 billion dollars from FTX's customers and then funneling the money to extravagant real estate purchases, as well as using the funds to prop up a crypto trading firm, alameda Recipro Over and over. On Tuesday, sam Bankman freed denied, knowing that billions of dollars in customer money had been misappropriated Until shortly before his company collapsed last year. Alright, we've talked about Sam.
Nathan Mumm:
Bankman freed. Now let's give a little recap for those people that haven't been listening to this great story that goes out. He's the founder of the failed FTX cryptocurrency exchanged and he's denying that he knows about the cryptocurrency exchange and he's denying that he knows billions of dollars in his customers money's accounts were misappropriated at his company, Even though he was in charge of it. He says that he has nothing to do with it. Now he had 20 plus people go on record during this case to say that he absolutely knew what's going on.
Mike Gorday:
But, he said that he has forgotten and he was so busy with what's going on. Clearly he is the one that is in the know.
Nathan Mumm:
I would think if you're the one that has the bank accounts, you create the cryptocurrency exchange. Now, we've talked about this on our show many, many, many times. There's only one cryptocurrency exchange that we would even suggest you play around with, and that's Coinbase, and even at that point, you should be playing with cryptocurrency money like it's casino money at a Las Vegas casino, hopefully without MGM that got hacked, but one that will be able to take your money from you each and every hour, as a normal casino can do.
Mike Gorday:
Yeah, the bottom line is if you're going to play with cryptocurrency, you might be an losing value, you may lose it all.
Nathan Mumm:
So FTX, which was once valued at 32 billion at its peak, imploded last year, leaving many customers unable to receive their deposits. So the thing is, as a person that had money in there 32 billion at its peak no.
Mike Gorday:
I never did. I remember a couple of years ago getting like pile drive to buy tons of people hawking FTX, ftx.
Nathan Mumm:
Yeah, all over the place.
Mike Gorday:
It was crazy.
Nathan Mumm:
So I have a cryptocurrency exchange that I do it's called KU coin based out of China, and that's the one that I just might as well throw money away and I try to get it on to a USB flash drive when I buy cryptocurrency there, so I actually have it as a backup on my ledger. And then I use all the rest of it as a I use coin based. So those are the two that I use, but FTX is now bankrupt, lost all that money. Essentially, the problem has that it was based in the Bahamas, so it wasn't a US based company, but it did open up a company in the United States. This is how the government's going after him that he was funneling money into that account from FTX.
Nathan Mumm:
He took FTX money in the Bahamas, transferred it into a company in California and that's what they're coming in after him for. Ftx collapse kicked off an investigation by the Justice Department and the SEC that focused on did FTX improperly use customer funds to prop up Alameda Research, a crypto platform that Bankman Fried had also helped start up? And that's where they're kind of getting this lawsuit to take care of. It is because he actually transferred money into it. The 30 year old One-time crypto mogul fumbled for answers when the prosecutor, danielle Sassoon, repeatedly asked whether he told his employees not to spend FTX customer money on investments, price he, real estate and other expenditures. He said, quote, unquote I don't recall giving any direction. So essentially, you're running a company and you have all your employees there. That would you never give direction to your employees. If you wanted them to do stuff, are you just gonna walk around all the time and and look at the pie and scary. You're gonna give your employees items to do.
Mike Gorday:
Why are you asking me?
Nathan Mumm:
I'm just kind of asking that I don't know how he can say he was in charge of the company and never gave his employees any.
Mike Gorday:
How can all these guys run around saying, well, I didn't know.
Nathan Mumm:
Now if Zuckerberg, everybody says that maybe Zuckerberg doesn't know anymore because he's kind of a weirdo now. So I don't.
Mike Gorday:
But I've had that all the way up to the present. I don't know.
Nathan Mumm:
Yeah, so there you go, Mike. We mark, what do you think about it? Any thoughts about this? No, mark is like. Mark is like all done with this. He's, he's going crazy. All right, mike, we're gonna move over to you, I think, for story number two.
Mike Gorday:
Yes, oh well, universal Orlando resort is testing facial recognition technology for guest entry.
Nathan Mumm:
Oh, that's your favorite thing, isn't it?
Mike Gorday:
favorite thing and I have a dry throat. It's begun testing a new facial recognition technology, dubbed photo validation, as a potential replacement for the current thumbprint scan used at park entrances. Technology is designed to streamline park operations and enhance the guest experience by providing a seamless contactless entry process. The software quickly and accurately identifies guests that as they enter the park, which I am skeptical of.
Nathan Mumm:
Well, I'll tell you, it's got to be better than what I. I don't have fingerprints and I was just down there like four months ago with the family and every single time I try to get into the park because they want your ID to be associated. I had to show my ID because my fingerprints had been sought off. I was a cook at the Royal Fork back in my day.
Mike Gorday:
Yeah, you know that sees them, so that doesn't happen. But alright, thanks for letting us in on that one.
Nathan Mumm:
Okay, so the face of the world. Is it good for me then? Right, huh, yeah, just Sure, why not? Yeah, yeah.
Mike Gorday:
Well. Facial recognition software works by capturing the facial images of guests at the approach designated entry points. The images are then matched against the database of pre-registered guests, verifying their identity within seconds. This process is designed to minimize waste times and provide a high level of security for all visitors Does it help you open your iPhone at the park too.
Nathan Mumm:
I don't know. So now I'm starting to have a little bit of concern about this. I don't mind getting into the gates, but what else is going to happen?
Mike Gorday:
I don't know. Walt Disney Resort previously trialed facial recognition scanners back in 2021. But they removed them following a lot of negative feedback from theme park ticket holders. One of the biggest concerns is ethical implications of such technology, particularly in relation to personal privacy.
Nathan Mumm:
Okay.
Mike Gorday:
So, while the use of facial recognition technology in theme parks could potentially streamline operations and enhance guest experiences, that's the data security, and privacy is the top of the list.
Nathan Mumm:
That's going to be interesting because that means universal. They're going to have a massive, massive database of people's names, probably phone numbers, addresses, credit cards, because that's what you use to purchase your tickets.
Mike Gorday:
We talked about that previously. I mean, there's not much more that they're going to gather than you having an online thing with well, MGM, what are the other things?
Nathan Mumm:
that they hacked Any other apps.
Mike Gorday:
Now, any other like a travel app, or you know, we can ask Nick about all the stuff that he hacked, but you know, one of the things you mentioned is that if they hacked this system, they can also see your movements throughout the park and capture your purchases or whatever you're doing throughout the park, which I think is the crux of the personal privacy thing, Do you think this?
Nathan Mumm:
would help with crime.
Mike Gorday:
So let's say, if I go on, this could though right, because if I go on in and let's say I steal something, Okay, we've done stories about this many times over, about law enforcement using these, and it comes back with problems, especially where it misidentifies persons of color particularly Okay, and I'm sure if you bring up that particular piece, that's probably not going to help. Okay. But, you know, CCTV is all over the place anyway. It's becoming more and more of a reality.
Nathan Mumm:
So it's pretty tough nowadays If I think about back in like the 80s, when you used to be able to rob a bank in the 80s or something I'm just going to use that as an example that you'd have the closed caps and TVs on the banks right?
Mike Gorday:
Is that what you did in the 80s? You just robbed banks.
Nathan Mumm:
No, I didn't rob any banks. Okay, but if you think about that, the technology is you'd have the cameras in the banks and you may have a couple cameras on the road that you're going on out, but you don't have like these blink cameras. You don't have these like door. Everybody has a camera.
Mike Gorday:
They do.
Nathan Mumm:
So now when you, if you steal something, you can go to your neighbors and go to other places. I mean, you can put a digital track of finding where those criminals are.
Mike Gorday:
Sure.
Nathan Mumm:
We're going to go to our house with our like, 40 cameras because as soon as you walk up the driveway, man, it's going off and my Alexa system is beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. It's telling you all about it.
Mike Gorday:
All right, well, there you go. So that's what's happening at university.
Nathan Mumm:
Do you like facial recognition Mike?
Mike Gorday:
I have. I'm always ambivalent about all these things because they have potential, but they're often problematic, and it's the problematic piece that I have an issue with. Okay, all right.
Nathan Mumm:
Let's move on now to story number three. Elon Musk gives employees one year to replace their bank account. Let's go to our tech times, tom Geichen, for more on the story.
Speaker 6:
Elon Musk says X will take over the world as the one and only app, saying it will replace cash. Musk X owner has given employees of the social media platform one year to replace their bank accounts, saying they will no longer need them. But last week's X's all hands meeting Musk made it clear that he wants X to be the center of the financial world, handling anything in life that deals with money. The features that will enable X to handle payments is expected to launch by the end of 2024. That's not at all spooky. Back to you in the studio.
Mike Gorday:
Yeah, that's not a spooky at all.
Nathan Mumm:
So we got a 52 year old Elon Musk. This guy I mean, this guy is just gold for media. Here's what he told all of his employees during his all hands meeting. So just think of this all hands meeting is when the whole company gets together. You're either seeing him live or you're live streaming it. So you see what's going on. Everybody's like rah, rah, rah rah, rah.
Mike Gorday:
This is the problem with delusional reinforcement. What's that? That you can start getting away with talking about this stuff like it gets worse and worse and worse. Because you have all these people around you going yeah, let's do that. Yeah, you can do it.
Nathan Mumm:
Well, here's what he said at his Thursday meeting. He said that the people will be surprised at just how powerful X is going to be. When I say payments, I actually mean someone's entire financial life. Musk said, according to audio obtained from the meeting, if it involves money, it'll be on our platform. Money or security or whatever. Of course, he doesn't really know, so it'll just be like spending $20 to my friend. Instead of doing that Now, you won't need a bank account, you will just use X. This is coming some weeks after Musk announced plans to add video and audio call features to the app. He has already started paying rewards or bribes to creators who are Twitter blue subscribers. So if you are a Twitter, blue subscriber.
Mike Gorday:
Did I hear you say the word bribes? Yeah, I did.
Nathan Mumm:
I wasn't in the script. I added that to there. But what he's now doing, this guy? I mean he lives in his own little world bubble that he's got. Now if you tweet out stuff that he's excited about as a Twitter blue subscriber, so you got to pay your $12 a month or $9 a month for the service and then, when you do that, if you tweet something out, he'll give you a 50 cents back. He'll give you 25 cents back. He'll give you a dollar back. So, you got some incentives there.
Mike Gorday:
So he's going to give me money to tweet stuff he likes.
Nathan Mumm:
Well, that if you tweet stuff that he likes, then he'll find you out. If you're an influencer and you're paying to use the Twitter blue subscribers, he'll give you some money back. And that sounds so great. Good ol' buddy uncle Musk, right.
Mike Gorday:
You know, I am often rendered speechless by your enthusiastic renditions of Elon.
Nathan Mumm:
He is like a cartoon character. He is like the perfect cartoon character.
Mike Gorday:
They all live in a world of delusion.
Nathan Mumm:
But yet he produces a car that runs really well Tesla. His company does Correct. You know he started ChatGPT. He started that startup company that essentially created ChatGPT.
Mike Gorday:
He must be your hero then. Well, he's not my hero.
Nathan Mumm:
But he's just. He's like so crazy that if you get enough, steve Jobs is the same way I know everybody in Apple thinks he's great. He was a crazy nut too, but he gets people excited, that's what we do.
Mike Gorday:
We take the function of whatever is created by these companies and we put it on this person and saying this is why this exists and it takes credit away from the actual people who design and implement them, and put it on the person who's standing there going yes, we're going to do this. Yes, we're going to do this. So, yeah, let's do this. We're seeing an interesting phenomenon with Elon being like getting way further out there in delusional world.
Nathan Mumm:
Well, I can tell you that I don't think the United States government is thinking cash is going away in Texas. Yeah.
Mike Gorday:
I'm pretty sure this is not gonna happen and I'm really concerned, are we?
Nathan Mumm:
ready for the prediction show at the end of January or at the end of December.
Mike Gorday:
I'm really concerned about this employee thing. I wanna see if this is a real deal and what happens if they don't change bank accounts. Do they not get paid anymore? I don't know. I didn't explain that at all.
Nathan Mumm:
All right. Well, that ends our top technology stories of the week. Moving on, we have our Halloween special episode of the scariest things in technology, and no holiday special is complete without our special guest, nick Espinosa. What are Nick's three scariest technology events that happened in 2023? Well, we'll explore this in our next segment. Ask the expert. You're listening to Tech Time with Nathan Mum. We'll be back after the sprake.
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Nathan Mumm:
Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mum. Tech Time's a weekly hour technology show that talks about current technology in a simple format. With that I have to geek out. I'm brought to you by myself, nathan Mum and Microday. We just had our first whiskey tasting during the break and now we have Mark in studio in his all get out for Halloween to tell us what we have chosen to taste today.
Mike Gorday:
Hello my pretties. I think you're enjoying that a little bit too much, mark.
Marc Gregoire:
I enjoy it very much, Mike.
Mike Gorday:
OK, well, that's one place where we disagree wholeheartedly, because I hate it.
Marc Gregoire:
I think we dressed in the wrong costumes, though I think we should have dressed as M&Ms, because you have M&M.
Nathan Mumm:
Oh, that would be Mike Nathan Mark. Oh, that's pretty good, we should have done that.
Mike Gorday:
That's clever. There you go. We'll do that next year. No, we're not. Yeah, we will Don't get any ideas, All right what are we tasting today?
Marc Gregoire:
We are tasting Colonel EH Taylor Jr Single Barrel. So from Buffalo Trace website. Colonel Edmund Hayes Taylor Jr is widely considered one of the founding fathers of the bourbon industry who in 1870 purchased what is now called Buffalo Trace Distillery. Many of the barrels selected for the EH Taylor Jr Single Barrels are aged in Warehouse C, which was built by Taylor in 1881, and proven to be an excellent aging warehouse. Each barrel is handpicked and bottled and bond at 100 proof to honor its namesake. Their aroma carries lightly toasted oak, dried figs, butterscotch. One sip brings flavors of sweetness, balance with tobacco and dark spices. The finish is just long enough to prepare the palate for another sip.
Marc Gregoire:
Now, this is released by Sazerac Company. It's distilled at, as we mentioned, the Buffalo Trace Distillery in Frankfurt, kentucky. It's straight bourbon. It's aged at least four years, though is believed to be seven to 12 years. It is 100 proof. It's an unknown mash bill, but we know it's a low-ry mash bill. So less than 10% and it sells for an MSRP $70, but on the secondary market it goes for up to about $225.
Nathan Mumm:
Wow, so have I tasted an EH, taylor, before you have tasted the small batch? A small batch, and I think I like that one, if I remember. I like a lot of it.
Marc Gregoire:
I believe you both gave that one a thumbs up.
Nathan Mumm:
OK, because this is a little different. We were just talking about this, Mike. What was your first take on this? It's kind of just a borderline, the initial taste is harsh. It was harsh, yeah, I don't know if I liked it as much.
Mike Gorday:
The finish is nice, is it?
Nathan Mumm:
Yeah, I still have a little bit. I got a little burnt close on my pumpkin tongue. I'm still tasting it OK all right?
Marc Gregoire:
Yeah, well, it doesn't have any peanut butter in it or jelly or anything like that.
Nathan Mumm:
OK, so it's not even favorite. I can tell Mark must like this. There you go.
Marc Gregoire:
I was kind of like I'll be back later with the mumbles and they're a little spooky All right, OK.
Nathan Mumm:
Well, with our first whiskey tasting completed, let's move on to our future segment of our spooky Halloween episode. We have our technology expert, Nick Espinosa, joining the show. He's an expert in cybersecurity and network infrastructure. Nick Espinosa has consulted with clients ranging from small business to the Fortune 100 level. In 1998, at the age of 19, Nick founded Windy City Networks, later acquired in 2015. Then he created Security Fanatics, where he is the chief security fanatic. Let's welcome Nick to our video stream and start our next segment.
Speaker 3:
Welcome to the segment we call Ask the Experts with our tech time radio expert, nick Espinosa.
Nathan Mumm:
All right, we're excited to have Nick being brought up here. Hi, nick, nick, how are you doing today?
Nick Espinosa:
I'm all right. I'm all right. I'm just watching all the kids steal my candy from the front door. I'm here not hanging out with them.
Nathan Mumm:
Oh, you're not hanging out. Did you just put a bowl out there? So explain it to me. What do you have going on with that?
Nick Espinosa:
I got a bowl with no instructions and a camera. And I'm hoping I keep the bowl at the end of the night. That's all I'm going to say.
Nathan Mumm:
If you can keep the bowl, then you've survived the evening really well, it's a win, because Lord knows I don't want candy in my house or I'll eat it.
Nick Espinosa:
Can I also say purely my opinion one that dude from FTX is so unbelievably guilty? And I'm just going to say I knew something was wrong with FTX when I would order Chinese food, like to have it delivered in the fortune cookies on the back of the little fortune or FTX brand in low-end.
Mike Gorday:
They were advertising fortune cookies, yeah yeah.
Nathan Mumm:
Yeah. Ftx said yeah. How can you run a company and tell your employees you never once told them that they needed to take care of payments or they needed to take care?
Mike Gorday:
of that. He forgot everything. I have no idea why you guys don't believe him at all.
Nick Espinosa:
Culture is top down right. Yes, you lead from the front. Yes, so how you conduct yourself is how your employees will, and that's unbelievable, but anyway.
Mike Gorday:
Well, I'm going to nail him on perjury then, I guess Well they'll nail him on.
Nathan Mumm:
The biggest thing that they'll nail him is that he came back and essentially said that he was investing into his other company with the money. If he would have just kept the money off-shore in the Bahamas, he'd probably have it in great shape, but he decided to double-dip. A little bit too much.
Nick Espinosa:
I mean he's going to end up in clubbed with the Enron guys anyway, so he'll learn a whole new business scheme anyway.
Nathan Mumm:
Anyway, Well, we're excited to have you online. So before we get to our top three stories, let's talk about some stories that did not make the cut. So, just thinking about some technology items, here we're going to go through your top three scariest what are some things that have kind of made you go hmm or got a little scared about technology during the year that we're not going to cover here in the top three.
Nick Espinosa:
Yeah, so obviously we now have World War III starting Middle East, with just that horrific event in Israel and all of that. And as we are looking and tracking at all of that, we are seeing just cyber warfare absolutely launched on both sides Right now. If you're looking external to both Israel and Palestine or Hamas, it's about a 5 to 6 to 1 ratio on terms of hacking that are pro-Hamas as opposed to pro-Israel. So I think we're going to see a long and extended, protracted situation there. Obviously, ukraine continues to carry on and all of that, and we've seen some absolutely just massive and spectacular for lack of a better term breaches this year. So it's on and on as you know I do every Sunday the breaches of the week and they just keep getting longer and longer and it's heartbreaking to see, but that's the name of the business, right?
Mike Gorday:
It kind of sucks that that didn't make the cut for the spookiest.
Nathan Mumm:
That means there's some other stuff that are here.
Mike Gorday:
I mean you know this is the, Mike Drinks a Lot show.
Nathan Mumm:
This is my, the consumers. Now I think we've just become numb to the idea that our information is just not going to be breached anywhere, and I don't even think most people care nowadays. I mean, they put their information out there and it gets hacked, like the MGM thing. That is huge. That's a lot of info that we should be upset about, but nobody's like oh I'll sign up for the Players Club.
Mike Gorday:
later it's called Learn Helplessness.
Nick Espinosa:
Right. So I mean I travel a lot for speaking engagements, as you know. How many times have I stated a Marriott and how many times have they gotten my data breached? You know, part of the problem that we have in the cybersecurity community is fatigue, you know, not just of cybersecurity professionals, but a general public that doesn't understand that data ages, so when they hear another data breach it's like ugh. You know it's what I'm caught up in. What 100 of these in the last three years. So why should I care anymore? And that is one of the biggest issues that we've got just not longitudinally understanding the problems with that attitude, and so it's something we're continuously fighting against. It's a huge problem.
Nathan Mumm:
All right, so let's go here we're going to start, we're going to do three, two and then one. So, nick, we're going to go to your third, most scariest item for 2023. Number three is what?
Nick Espinosa:
The US Patent and Trademark Office.
Nathan Mumm:
OK, so explain that.
Nick Espinosa:
Here in the United States, or USPTO or usspatot the government loves their acronyms. So, that said, the Patent Office announced basically this is like late June, early July that they had suffered a data breach and thousands of trademark applicants, actually for the past three years, have been affected. And so we're talking about 61,000 plus US citizens that have applied for trademarks or patents and that's roughly, for the record, about 3% that have applied, and, interestingly enough, I've also applied for trademarks this year on some new stuff. So here we go Now. Interestingly enough, this leak was caused by an error in one of the Patent Office application programming interfaces, also known as APIs. Now, if you don't know what that is, it's basically a piece of software that allows two systems to communicate.
Nathan Mumm:
It's a handshake right. You got a Microsoft application and some other crazy application. You want them to work together. The API helps adhere to the standards for each of those to make things transfer.
Nick Espinosa:
Right, exactly In this case. The API is allowing applications used by the Patent Office essentially to display the status of trademark. But here's the thing you have to sign up essentially with a trademark, with a domicile address, like a home address. By virtue of that, they mistakenly published everybody's address for that 61,000. And here we are. Obviously, that's a huge problem for those. For the record, when we're talking about patents and trademarks, we're talking about intellectual property. These are things that are ripped off worldwide. This is actually a rather serious problem that completely flew under the radar, which is why I'm bringing it up here today.
Nathan Mumm:
Let me ask you about this. Let's say I'm a tech company and I decided to submit for a patent or a trademark it's something that I'm going to mass produce and some technology secret sauce that I have. Essentially, the organization that did it let's say hypothetically it was China or another company or another country that did that then they would actually get the patent that I submitted. So the technology that I submitted and the information I submitted, did they actually breach and get that information, or did they just get that I was applying for a patent with a patent number?
Nick Espinosa:
So, from what I understand, they actually got all of your information in terms of where you live, email address, how to get a hold of you, et cetera, et cetera, and also the topic. So, for example, let's say you're trying to patent or create a trademark for a brand new widget, whatever that is, they would understand, hey, this might be something we're interested in, and so maybe you become part of a very specific fishing campaign to try to get your intellectual property. And that's the biggest concern here, because, again, we're talking about trade secrets that are potentially going through that. And if you've ever been through the trademark process, it's been months and I still don't have my trademarks. Now I have precedent in the sense of like in the legal system, because I've submitted and the government has like OK, I was number 300 to submit this week, or whatever, and so I'm ahead of everybody else that, let's say, tries to submit the same thing I do, but nevertheless, it's a huge, huge problem.
Nathan Mumm:
It really is. That would suck if I just tried to create Nathan Mumm widget of X, y and Z, and it may be my title Irreplaceable buddy. Well, no, no, I didn't say my widget would be lost, then somebody could take it. All right, nick, so that was three. Now we're moving on to story number two. What is the second most scary technology item that we have here in 2023?
Nick Espinosa:
Well, gentlemen, drop the whiskey and pour yourself a cup of tea, because we're going to cross the pond to the UK. And what we're talking about here is the Ministry of Defense. This is the equivalent the UK equivalent of the US Department of Defense, and they were leaking stolen information on military and intelligence sites online. Now, apparently, attackers targeted basically their database, known as Zouan. Ok, now, zouan actually is a third party that handles the physical security for some of Britain's most top secret locations across the entire island and the world, including a nuclear submarine base, chemical weapons labs, listening posts, all this kind of stuff. And these attackers released thousands of pages of data which include insanely sensitive national security details for the United Kingdom.
Nick Espinosa:
And for the record, you're thinking, ok, we're here in the United States. The UK is five eyes. They are one of our closest, most staunch allies. I mean, forget the fact that we won that war 250 years ago. They are one of our closest allies. So this is a huge problem.
Nick Espinosa:
On top of that information, high security prison information was also stolen, meaning you have detention centers around the globe for, let's say, terrorists that the UK has captured. That's all public now as well. Now the ransomware group LockBit, believed to be out of Russia is the one that is claiming this hit, and they're the ones that publish a whole bunch of this information. Now, interestingly enough, the United Kingdom and this is not the first time they basically had a Windows 7 PC in their intelligence infrastructure that basically got hit from this third party company in one of their manufacturing machines. Now, if you recall, a few years ago, the eternal blue issue in Windows 7 knocked out 80% of the entire UK health system. So this is a big deal and so obviously, this is a huge black eye for literally the entire military apparatus of the United Kingdom, probably our closest ally.
Nathan Mumm:
Wow, so that's only number two. Can't wait to get to number one. Are you excited there, Mike? Ok, all right, here we go Now. The top story of scary technology items for 2023. I'm sure we just talked about stuff over the pond. I'm sure it's nothing to do with the United States. I'm sure we're taking care of and secure what is our number one item. Don't scare us here, Nick.
Nick Espinosa:
Well, ditch the tea and get more bottles of whiskey for this one, because if we're talking about the UK's Ministry of Defense, let's talk about the US Department of Defense, the world's largest and most effective military around the globe. They basically had an exposed server that was literally just spilling out internal US military emails for about two, three weeks just to anybody that wanted to go. Look, that's absolutely nuts. Now, interestingly enough, basically the US military was running a Microsoft Azure server that's in the cloud. It's been running for the record and nobody knows how to configure the cloud including apparently the Pentagon, and that basically that server was physically separate.
Nathan Mumm:
That's why you got to use the Amazon cloud service. They're the only one that makes sense in my opinion. Sorry, I hate Amazon on a lot of other things, but at least their cloud service comes with some instructions. That Azure cloud service is very difficult as an expert to even understand. But OK, continue. Oh my God.
Nick Espinosa:
So, just on a complete aside, when we're doing cybersecurity assessments and the corporation or organization Microsoft Azure, we are running a serious check of about 300 plus controls and best practices for Azure and most IT teams we deal with said I had no idea I thought there was like 10. Yeah, so FYI, yes, completely. I mean it's like unlocking the DaVinci code, trying to figure out that one compared to AWS.
Mike Gorday:
Wow, my confidence in the cyber community has just gone up a lot.
Nick Espinosa:
Yeah, yeah. Well, this is again. I said drop the T, get the whiskey, that's right.
Mike Gorday:
Well, we got a lot of that.
Nick Espinosa:
Yeah, yeah. So basically they had an exposed server in Azure Microsoft Basically that was part of their internal mailbox system, storing about three terabytes of internal military emails, and we are talking about literally So-Com that's the special operations command, the military unit that does special military operations, and all of that. You want to send the seals to Kilbin Laden. That's So-Com, right, and so that's obviously a huge problem. So they misconfigured this and the server was exposed and it didn't even have a password. No password, that's it, Not even not even DoD one or password one, no password, it was just completely clean, open years years.
Mike Gorday:
I mean, I'm even the movie war games. They had a password and they did.
Nick Espinosa:
Yeah, it was professor Falcons, like kid.
Nathan Mumm:
Okay, so, so we have here. So we have. The UK Government's been breached. We got the United States government. Preached and we have essentially all of our patent and trademarks that were submitted to our government sites.
Nick Espinosa:
Breached by another country.
Nathan Mumm:
Wow, that is gonna make for a lot of alcohol tonight. We'll say all right. So, nick, do we have any hope for 2024 that we're gonna get some of these things right?
Nick Espinosa:
well, alcohol is still widely available and roughly cheap. That's a relative to other things. So that helps. No, I mean we're always. We're always working on this. You know we're improving on the artificial intelligence side to find and text up. There was a new executive order from Biden on AI, the, the White House on on basically having artificial intelligence be developed to find Vulnerabilities and fix them automatically. Huge fan of that for the record, you know. So we're gonna continue to improve on the other side. It's always cat and mouse, right, they're gonna have at the the. The bad guys are gonna have access to the AI and they're not gonna have scruples. So here we are and we're walking into a massive disinformation problem in 2024 Because, if you didn't know, we got a presidential race that's going on and it's gonna get absolutely nuts. So we're gonna see it one way or the other coming and going. But here we are.
Nathan Mumm:
All right, Nick is always a pleasure to have you on the show. Thanks for being so much a part of our holiday special. How can people get in touch with you and connect with you outside the show?
Nick Espinosa:
I always happen to be here, yeah, and you know you can basically follow me at Nick a ESP on, you know, facebook and Twitter or X or whatever they're gonna call themselves. Next week, before they go under, and for the record, elon Musk lost a Ton of trust, so I don't think he's gonna get that financial thing off the ground. Or feel free to follow me at YouTube as well. Slash Nick Espinoza LinkedIn, whatever come say hi.
Nathan Mumm:
All right, Nick. Thanks so much.
Mike Gorday:
Thanks, nick, see you later. All right, that is our segment?
Nathan Mumm:
ask the expert, nick Espinoza. Next we have this week in technology, so now would be a great time to enjoy lots of whiskey on the side, as we'll be doing so during the break. You're listening to tech time radio with Nathan. Mum seen a few minutes.
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Speaker 3:
And now let's look back at this week in technology.
Nathan Mumm:
All right now. Nick kind of queued this up. He doesn't even know it. November 4th 1952 computer predicts presidential election. Yeah, we've been doing this for a while now as a part, that's in since November 4th 1952.
Nathan Mumm:
As part of the publicity stunt to help boost sales, remington ran collaborated with CBS to unveil its Univac computer which predicted the results of the 1952 US presidential election. Between the night to white Eisenhower and Adley Stevenson. On the air, because of the pre-election polls, had the election very close. The publicity surrounding the computer prediction and the winter generated a lot of popular interest. Univac Correctly predicted a landslide victory by Eisenhower early in the evening, after only three million votes had been returned and they entered it into the system. However, because it was so different than the expected result, the decision was made to hold back the computerized prediction. It appeared that both Remington ran and CBS feared the computer was incorrect, so they didn't want to take the risk. It was only late in the broadcast when the continuing return seemed to indicate that the Univac was in fact correct. Did CBS announce the landslide prediction from the computer and the fact that it had been done so hours earlier? In the end, univac has become a came within 3.5% of the popular vote within four Electrovolts and the predicted a 101 odd winner of Eisenhower's victory.
Nathan Mumm:
The publicity stunt worked so well and Became so relatively famous that people started calling all computers Univac's in the future. It was also covered in the Superman comic book and a looney tunes cartoon, but the next presidential election, four years later, all three major networks were using computers to predict the results. That was this week in technology. If you ever wanted to see some tech time history, with over a hundred and seventy weekly broadcast spanning three plus years of video, podcasts and blog information, you can visit techtime radio comm to watch our older shows or join our tech timers Facebook group to watch us live all the time. We're gonna take a commercial break when we return. We have marks, mumble, whiskey reveal and our technology fail of the week, and we're gonna see five different items on that technology fail. See after the break.
Speaker 7:
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Speaker 3:
The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's whiskey mumble.
Marc Gregoire:
Very nice.
Nathan Mumm:
There's character of you know you do it mark.
Mike Gorday:
No, stop it please. You guys are looking tasty, okay, all right. Well, it's your mumble.
Nathan Mumm:
Marinating some bourbon, that's right.
Marc Gregoire:
Hey, what we got going on today. Well, what? What are we celebrating today besides Halloween?
Mike Gorday:
I don't know your hairstyle.
Marc Gregoire:
Thank you.
Nathan Mumm:
I don't know. You know I mark. I can never predict what, where you find this stuff. So I have no idea you just make it could be national raisins day, for all I know. But you know what do we?
Marc Gregoire:
have one word, two words. It's national, something day.
Nathan Mumm:
Okay, she got that right.
Marc Gregoire:
Okay, what is it today? It's national doorbell day. Oh oh, national doorbell day will celebrate on. October 21st annually, because I recognize the buzzer bell, chimer melody tunes and so on. Beckon as to whatever there is a guest at our door. When kids come to trick-or-treat on us on Halloween, it's a humble doorbell that announces her arrival. Get ready to welcome Halloween with the doorbells All right, okay, that makes sense.
Nathan Mumm:
That's actually a holiday. That kind of makes sense with the day that goes through right sure?
Marc Gregoire:
Okay, all right, all right. Well, let's talk spooky, let's talk ghosts now. Okay. So, specifically, ghost hunters, back in 2014, investigated one of the oldest distilleries in America Buffalo trace oh, buffalo trace. Spirits fill the bourbon barrels and haunt the halls. So here are the ghosts of Colonel Blanton, a former distillery president, who died in the distilleries. Manson Could be the apparition that has been seen and heard lingering on the site. In warehouse C, where our bourbon today comes from, there are cold spots. Employees have heard strange voices and seen other spirits in that warehouse. Oh, one man even heard a voice whispering to him to get his men out. He listened and, just as a crew left, an entire wall fell down.
Marc Gregoire:
All right, so for eh Taylor junior single barrel. We must remember, though, that these are single barrels and not batched. Okay, so there will be some fluctuation between the ball, as you find. Now this particular one. People have said it's a little off-profile, but even with that said, I found them to be fairly consistent and, even though there's some variation, I personally find them all very delicious. I am a little biased, as I enjoy the eh Taylor line from the small batch all the way up to the barrel. Proof I do find the single barrel to be a bit livelier than the small batch flavors of roasted oak, vanilla, rich caramel, cherry and slightly spicy. Ooh. That's why Mike probably doesn't like it as much, because it has a little spice in it spicy, little spice in a spice in life is what makes the medicine goes down.
Mike Gorday:
I think you heard, I think you watched the wrong movie.
Speaker 7:
You didn't watch the same movie.
Nathan Mumm:
I did was that the wicker witch of the west.
Mike Gorday:
No, wait, wait, wait a sugar.
Nathan Mumm:
Oh, okay, Mary Poppins. Yeah, did you see the second one?
Marc Gregoire:
No, okay, I have nothing to do with what mark just said a spoonful of delicious bourbon that is spicy.
Mike Gorday:
Mmm, I think you need to do Willy Wonka, you know, and he is dandy, but liquor is quicker, oh, okay you know, all I do is I keep on looking at you and I just think of Age of Empires.
Nathan Mumm:
You know that little saying that you get okay there.
Marc Gregoire:
All right.
Nathan Mumm:
Well, there you go. Thanks for the mumble. You're welcome, as always. Whiskey and technology is such a great pairing, just like the pairing of Dracula and Frankenstein, both considered Halloween's most famous characters. Are you sure about that? I am sure about that. There was a big fight about it online, but I put it in a chat, gpt, and that's what it told me. So I believe everything. I read on the internet.
Nathan Mumm:
All right, now let's get ready for our technology fail, the week brought to us by elite executive service technology experts to help out a technology fail. We are out of time. Congratulations, you're a failure. Oh I.
Marc Gregoire:
Failed, did I yes did I yes, yes.
Nathan Mumm:
All right. Our technology fail comes to us from the technology graveyard with five haunting failures where ghosts still hunt today. We're gonna start out with the HD DVD, originally called advanced optical disc, under joint development from to she been any see. The HD DVD Could only store three times as much information as a DVD and it couldn't keep up with the Blu-ray drives and essentially 10x the information. We are putting our Sadness into the grave for HD DVD.
Nathan Mumm:
Our next thing 3d TV, tv, tv TVs. Cs 2010 said 3d TV is perfect for money-making and will soon Revolutionize everybody's television. So how come the 3d future never came into fruition? One of the reasons you had to wear glasses. So since 2017, even the most popular people of 3d Samsung, has not produced a unit. It has stopped making 3d TVs in 2015 until glass-free 3d TVs at the market. This market is dead, but you Be careful because this could be a resurgent, like zombies, because, just like the QR code trend is now picking up again you see all the QR codes available. This could be the trend that happens.
Nathan Mumm:
Next We'll talk about Blackberry at the height of its power. Blackberry, founded in Waterloo, canada, was the original research in motion, state of the art telephone slash paging unit. Now, blackberry is nothing but a pass, and in 2006, the Blackberry pearl Was sent to rest because of this new Apple groundbreaking Invention called the iPhone Amazon Firephone have you heard of that? Well, it was only around for two months. Essentially, the Amazon Firephone is essentially Nowhere to be found anymore. The fire was announced on 18th of June 2014 and they sold a total, they say, of about 35,000 phones ever. Amazon later admitted that they had an error in its pricing strategy because they came on out as a Superpriced phone and no fire phone has ever existed or thought about at any time later. Essentially, jeff Bezos lost a hundred and seventy million dollars.
Nathan Mumm:
Thinking phones was the next feature. Let's jump change. All right, and the last thing at eight track cartridge. My parents had a truck with an eight track player and, it's true, the automotive industry loved the eight track machine. Bentley and Rolls Royce fitted them and they're part of their standard selection for years. But eight tracks were not void of drawbacks. You know, these clunky Five and a quarter by four inch plastic pieces of heaven could play great music, but we're no longer able to be keeping up with the technology of this thing called a tape player. That was our five technology ghosts. We're gonna head out to a commercial break. When we return, we have Mike's mesmerizing moment and our pick of the day. See you after this.
Speaker 7:
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Nathan Mumm:
This is Mike's mesmerizing moment, presented by Story coffee. Visit story coffeecom. All right, mike, here's your Item for your mesmerizing moment. What is the scariest technology story for the year that we have covered? That makes you scared of technology.
Mike Gorday:
Well, I don't think we need to really Sift through a lot of stuff that the most concerning thing for me has been the AI stuff. Okay, like a lot of a lot of people, ai is Super concerning to me, and it's not so much the AI itself, it's how people will use the AI and and all the Natural errors that will be involved by the persons that program the AI.
Mike Gorday:
Okay. So because it's become such a hotly Debated and Utilized resource, I mean we I had a Went to an in-service this this past week and one of the big deals was AI. Yeah, so we had to sit and listen to people talk about all this massive awesomeness of AI.
Nathan Mumm:
Did you raise your hand and say, hey, I got a radio show. Let me just tell you, you're a little.
Mike Gorday:
I just let them talk and, you know, listen to some stats and and stuff and I, you know it's just concerning, but it's it's. It's the way that it's going to be used, which is the worst part yeah of it because that that is considerably more insidious than I think we are ready for.
Nathan Mumm:
So I enjoy it, but I still use it with guardrails, right. So everybody should use it with a lot of people, though, right. That's the problem, that's the people won't use the guardrails.
Mike Gorday:
I mean that's what. That's what we were talking about at this thing was there's a I guess there's a creativity factor in it that you can program it for yep. It either stays factually based, with only the the information that is placed in or it's got a creative Create information.
Nathan Mumm:
You gotta be careful. Yep, no, that's great. All right, okay, that's great. Well, now let's head on. Thanks, mike, for that. That's good to have any back. I missed you last couple weeks.
Mike Gorday:
Yeah, it's been working.
Nathan Mumm:
I know I'm glad you're back here. You're working hard here too. Let's move on to our Nathan. I'm drinking hard here.
Speaker 3:
This is your nugget of the week.
Nathan Mumm:
All right, this is our Nathan nugget. Nothing is more scarier than zombie internet. So I have the best two Wi-Fi routers for 2023.
Mike Gorday:
You really have to explain what that is zombie internet Is.
Nathan Mumm:
Have you ever tried to open a web page and your circle just keeps on going, going on.
Nathan Mumm:
Okay so that is, in the tech world called zombie internet, because if your configuration isn't done correctly, you can have milliseconds of time that needs to be delayed. You can have transfer relays that are delayed. So we're gonna talk about the two best Wi-Fi routers. I got the TP link Archer AX 21 best budget Wi-Fi 6 router. This is available for under 200 bucks and if you want to move up to the links Hydra Pro, that's essentially more than 200 bucks. And those are my two top picks. As the TP link Archer AX 21, it is the best Wi-Fi router available. Find it online or go to tech time radio. You can find it. The links six, hydra Pro six mesh Wi-Fi router for 200 bucks. Now let's move to our Pick of the days here.
Marc Gregoire:
Mark, you're gonna tell us what we are tasting for our pick of the day You're drinking today, colonel EH Taylor Jr, the single barrel straight bourbon 100 proof $70, unless you get in the second area at 225. So if I see any thumbs down, I will be tearing out those thumbs and scratching out your eyes.
Nathan Mumm:
All right, miller gave it a thumbs up. What are you gonna give it, mike?
Mike Gorday:
I'm gonna give it a thumbs down? Are you gonna give it a thumbs down? I'm gonna lose my eyes. You know what?
Nathan Mumm:
I may have to lose my eyes too. I didn't like it either. I'm gonna give it a thumbs down.
Marc Gregoire:
That's two thumbs down, Well that doesn't surprise me, with you too. Okay, will you give it a thumbs up?
Nathan Mumm:
Oh, yes, I already went through two glasses. Bye, bye, all right, see you guys next week.
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